Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-17 Thread Leigh Scott
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 5:36 PM, Matthew Miller > > "Canonical Extends Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Linux Support to 10 Years" > > https://www.serverwatch.com/server-news/canonical-extends-ubuntu-18.04-lt... > > I just don't see how we're going to be able to compete with that, not > unless our Fedora L

Re: Upgraded from F28 x96_64 XFCE Spin to F29 => rough audio

2018-11-17 Thread Philip Rhoades
Leigh, On 2018-11-17 18:19, Leigh Scott wrote: Try https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_PulseAudio_problems#Playback_problems.2C_crackling_or_skipping My problem is not crackling_or_skipping - it is more just noisy. That link is a fix for a PA problem and is not specific to the F28

Re: Upgraded from F28 x96_64 XFCE Spin to F29 => rough audio

2018-11-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/17/18 12:17 AM, Philip Rhoades wrote: My problem is not crackling_or_skipping - it is more just noisy.  That link is a fix for a PA problem and is not specific to the F28->F29 upgrade which has caused the current problem.  I don't want to have to re-install PA now - to my way of thinking,

Re: Upgraded from F28 x96_64 XFCE Spin to F29 => rough audio

2018-11-17 Thread Philip Rhoades
Samuel, On 2018-11-17 19:46, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/17/18 12:17 AM, Philip Rhoades wrote: My problem is not crackling_or_skipping - it is more just noisy.  That link is a fix for a PA problem and is not specific to the F28->F29 upgrade which has caused the current problem.  I don't want to

Automating package maintainers responsivity check

2018-11-17 Thread Mattia Verga
Too often there are "non responsive maintainer" messages here. Sometimes this is because a maintainer has lost their interest in Fedora and left their responsibilities without communication, which means their packages can be left unmaintained for long time in repositories before someone notice

Re: Automating package maintainers responsivity check

2018-11-17 Thread Sheogorath
On 11/17/18 11:14 AM, Mattia Verga wrote: > I would propose some sort of automatic check of maintainer responsivity. > Maybe a tool that checks a packager activity in the last 6 months and if > there is no activity then sends an email asking the maintainer to > confirm they're still involved in

Re: Call for libtimidity owners

2018-11-17 Thread Antonio Trande
Regarding https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/libtimidity/pull-requests, please i need permissions to build libtimidity on epel7 branch. On 15/11/18 13:22, Antonio Trande wrote: > Hello! > > Please, take a look to > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1630466 > https://src.fedoraproject

Re: Automating package maintainers responsivity check

2018-11-17 Thread Manas Mangaonkar
Yes, this could be a good idea. Might be too small as a gsoc project though. I'd happily take this as i am anyways going to try for gsoc 19 with fedora,this could be a good starting point. A simple dockerized/contenerized python based app could be done as a very simple implementation. On Nov 1

Re: Proposal: Faster composes by eliminating deltarpms and using zchunked rpms instead

2018-11-17 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 6:03 PM Jonathan Dieter wrote: > > > *Changes* > The zchunk format would need to be extended to allow for a zchunked rpm > to contain both the uncompressed chunks that were already on the local > system and the newly downloaded compressed chunks while still passing > signat

Re: Automating package maintainers responsivity check

2018-11-17 Thread Ron Olson
What about packages that see infrequent updates; I maintain Nethack and the Dev Team can and does take years between releases. If it's just a blanket email to ask the packagers if they're still interested that's one thing, but going off package updates may be problematic for some folks. > On N

Re: Upgraded from F28 x96_64 XFCE Spin to F29 => rough audio

2018-11-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/17/18 1:33 AM, Philip Rhoades wrote: On 2018-11-17 19:46, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/17/18 12:17 AM, Philip Rhoades wrote: My problem is not crackling_or_skipping - it is more just noisy. That link is a fix for a PA problem and is not specific to the F28->F29 upgrade which has caused the

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-17 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:58:36 +0100, you wrote: >Gerald Henriksen wrote: >> I think the problem is that for a consumer / desktop oriented product >> - which we seem to be talking about given that this appears to be >> driven in part by the desire of hardware vendors - the RHEL/CentOS >> release cyc

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-17 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 18:36:38 -0500, you wrote: >But there are some good cases for a longer lifecycle. For one thing, >this has been a really big blocker for getting Fedora shipped on >hardware. In a later message you also bring up the reluctance of Universities to use Fedora - a bad sign given t

Re: Automating package maintainers responsivity check

2018-11-17 Thread Mattia Verga
Il 11/17/18 4:50 PM, Ron Olson ha scritto: > What about packages that see infrequent updates; I maintain Nethack > and the Dev Team can and does take years between releases. If it's > just a blanket email to ask the packagers if they're still interested > that's one thing, but going off package

Re: Proposal: Faster composes by eliminating deltarpms and using zchunked rpms instead

2018-11-17 Thread Jonathan Dieter
Neal, thanks so much for your thoughts on this. Responses inline: On Sat, 2018-11-17 at 09:53 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > If we're really considering changing the RPM file format, then we need > a proper discussion on rpm-maint@ and rpm-ecosystem@ mailing lists on > rpm.org. Can you please start

Re: Automating package maintainers responsivity check

2018-11-17 Thread Leigh Scott
> Maybe a tool that checks a packager activity in the last 6 months and if > What do you think? Better make it a year as people are entitled to a break! ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...

Re: Proposal: Faster composes by eliminating deltarpms and using zchunked rpms instead

2018-11-17 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 1:15 PM Jonathan Dieter wrote: > > Neal, thanks so much for your thoughts on this. Responses inline: > > On Sat, 2018-11-17 at 09:53 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > If we're really considering changing the RPM file format, then we need > > a proper discussion on rpm-maint@

Re: Proposal: Faster composes by eliminating deltarpms and using zchunked rpms instead

2018-11-17 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jonathan Dieter said: > The benefit of zchunked rpms is that, when downloading an updated rpm, > you would only need to download the chunks that have changed from > what's on your system. How well do web servers and caches handle range requests? I haven't really paid attention

Re: Proposal: Faster composes by eliminating deltarpms and using zchunked rpms instead

2018-11-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jonathan Dieter wrote: > My proposal would be to make zchunk the rpm compression format for > Fedora. Given that: 1. zchunk is based on zstd, which is typically less efficient in terms of compression ratio than xz, depending on settings (see, e.g., https://github.com/inikep/lzbench), and 2.

Re: Proposal: Faster composes by eliminating deltarpms and using zchunked rpms instead

2018-11-17 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Sat, 2018-11-17 at 14:36 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 1:15 PM Jonathan Dieter wrote: > > Neal, thanks so much for your thoughts on this. Responses inline: > > > > On Sat, 2018-11-17 at 09:53 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > > If we're really considering changing the RPM

Re: Automating package maintainers responsivity check

2018-11-17 Thread Philip Kovacs
There already is a fedora_active_user script of sorts  https://github.com/pypingou/fedora-active-user. I would not be in favor of any respond or die automation.   We volunteer our time and effort to be packagersand the job is often thankless enough as it is.  Having some additional automation or

Re: Proposal: Faster composes by eliminating deltarpms and using zchunked rpms instead

2018-11-17 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Sat, 2018-11-17 at 14:43 -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Jonathan Dieter said: > > The benefit of zchunked rpms is that, when downloading an updated rpm, > > you would only need to download the chunks that have changed from > > what's on your system. > > How well do web servers a

Re: Proposal: Faster composes by eliminating deltarpms and using zchunked rpms instead

2018-11-17 Thread Leigh Scott
+1 to anything to rid me of deltarpms, I currently have to disable this lame default. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.or

Fedora Rawhide-20181117.n.0 compose check report

2018-11-17 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 14/142 (x86_64), 2/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20181114.n.0): ID: 309623 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso realmd_join_sssd URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/309623 ID: 309630 Test: x86_64 Ser