Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

2018-09-06 Thread Manas Mangaonkar
> Fedora is already in glibc 2.28 it is possible to do the > > same approach TBH I don't really know how that'd be done with the current package,would love to learn. On Tue, Aug 28, 2018, 3:09 AM Victor Rodriguez wrote: > On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Manas Mangaonkar > wrote: > > Thank yo

Fedora 29 compose report: 20180905.n.0 changes

2018-09-06 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-29-20180903.n.0 NEW: Fedora-29-20180905.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:2 Upgraded packages: 9 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:35.27 MiB Size of upg

Fedora 29 Beta Go/No-Go meeting

2018-09-06 Thread Ben Cotton
Dear all, The Go/No-Go meeting for the Fedora 29 Beta release will be held on Thursday, 2018-09-13 at 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1. For more information, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting View the meeting on Fedocal at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/Fedora%20release/

Brainstorming about kernel updates with low disk space

2018-09-06 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
I'd like to brainstorm a bit about how to make kernel updates more resilient to running out of disk space. I've talked to a few people on IRC about this but I'm not at the point where I know enough to file good bugs and figured that a larger discussion might help. Summary of my questions: Why i

Fedora 29 Beta Release Readiness meeting

2018-09-06 Thread Ben Cotton
Dear all, Join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-1 for the Fedora 29 Beta Release Readiness meeting. This meeting will be held on Thursday, 2018-09-13 at 19:00 UTC. We will meet to make sure we are coordinated and ready for the Beta release of Fedora 29. Please note that this meeting will

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 04:47:32PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:50 PM Matthew Miller > wrote: > > > We used to always have a Change submitted for the GNOME update, but that > > stopped, I assume because it felt like kind of rote bureaucracy rather than > > helpful, since i

Re: [modularity] Managing module lifecycles — let's talk!

2018-09-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 05:57:57PM +0200, Adam Samalik wrote: > > I don't think we should use "rawhide" to mean "rolling updates", because it > > also has the implication of "project devel stream". > Just to make sure we're on the same page: I was talking about specifying an > EOL field, not a stre

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Bastien Nocera
- Original Message - > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: > > > > Dunno what to do wrt the ongoing freeze and getting final 3.30 in F29 > > Beta, I guess it may be too late for that. Any opinions from QA here? > > > If 3.29 is not what GNOME folks had ever wanted to

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20180906.n.0 changes

2018-09-06 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20180904.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20180906.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 2 Added packages: 11 Dropped packages:3 Upgraded packages: 295 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 206.10 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 6:59 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2018-09-05 at 12:14 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> My opinion, since there are few facts to go on to overcome the burden >> stated in a written process and schedule for some time, is -1 FE. If >> it was important enough to get 3.30 o

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 at 11:02, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: > > > > > > > Dunno what to do wrt the ongoing freeze and getting final 3.30 in F29 > > > Beta, I guess it may be too late for that. Any opinions from QA

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > - Original Message - >> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: >> >> >> > Dunno what to do wrt the ongoing freeze and getting final 3.30 in F29 >> > Beta, I guess it may be too late for that. Any opinions from QA her

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2018-09-06 at 10:13 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 6:59 PM, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > On Wed, 2018-09-05 at 12:14 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > My opinion, since there are few facts to go on to overcome the burden > > > stated in a written process and schedule fo

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2018-09-06 at 10:41 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > Fedora folks have been testing 3.29 for weeks now. Fedora people > haven't been testing 3.30 because it's not really available to test. > So I think it's reasonable for a GNOME specific change to explicitly > state a request and expectation f

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 01:21:52PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:56 PM Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 10:15:26PM +0530, Parag Nemade wrote: > > > > > > > > I'd be *strongly* disinclined to give a Freeze Exception for a GNOME > > > > mega-update. Th

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2018-09-06 at 20:42 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > Also, Fedora is much more than Workstation now. There is server, > cloud, and other editions. We shouldn't circumvent our processes for > some collection of packages important for one edition only. There's no 'circumvention' being discu

Re: openssl 1.1 development conflicts with compat-openssl (1.0)

2018-09-06 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 09/05/2018 02:01 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: On 09/05/2018 01:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2018-09-05 at 12:17 -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: Recent updates on f27 are blocked because openssl-devel (1.1) conflicts with compat-openssl10-devel (1.0). [...] I don't know if it's a rea

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2018-09-06 at 10:41 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> Fedora folks have been testing 3.29 for weeks now. Fedora people >> haven't been testing 3.30 because it's not really available to test. >> So I think it's reasonable for a GNOME spe

Re: openssl 1.1 development conflicts with compat-openssl (1.0)

2018-09-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 3:31 PM Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On 09/05/2018 02:01 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > > On 09/05/2018 01:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> On Wed, 2018-09-05 at 12:17 -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > >>> Recent updates on f27 are blocked because openssl-devel (1.1) confli

Re: Brainstorming about kernel updates with low disk space

2018-09-06 Thread Colin Walters
FWIW, rpm-ostree fixes all of this today - the entire update is really transactional, and fully handles hitting ENOSPC at any point. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Peter Robinson
> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > On Thu, 2018-09-06 at 10:41 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> Fedora folks have been testing 3.29 for weeks now. Fedora people > >> haven't been testing 3.30 because it's not really available to test. > >> So I think it's reasonable for

Re: openssl 1.1 development conflicts with compat-openssl (1.0)

2018-09-06 Thread Igor Gnatenko
If you depend on pkgconfig one, then depending on environment you can get different results ... Is there this what you are looking for? On Thu, Sep 6, 2018, 22:05 Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 3:31 PM Przemek Klosowski < > przemek.klosow...@nist.gov> wrote: > >> On 09/05/

Re: openssl 1.1 development conflicts with compat-openssl (1.0)

2018-09-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 6:34 PM Igor Gnatenko < ignatenkobr...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > If you depend on pkgconfig one, then depending on environment you can get > different results ... Is there this what you are looking for? > No idea, as I can’t parse the sentence, sorry :-( Could you try t

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 11:33:20 -0700, you wrote: >On Thu, 2018-09-06 at 10:41 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> Fedora folks have been testing 3.29 for weeks now. Fedora people >> haven't been testing 3.30 because it's not really available to test. >> So I think it's reasonable for a GNOME specific chan

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 07:17:29PM -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > >Uh, to be clear here: you do know that 3.29 is the development series > >for 3.30, right? It's not a sudden major release jump. Effectively what > >we have right now is more or less 3.30 rc0-and-a-bit; the proposal is > >to go fro

Fedora 29-20180905.n.0 compose check report

2018-09-06 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 11/132 (x86_64), 4/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm) ID: 275005 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_freeipa_replication_replica URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/275005 ID: 275015 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default_upload URL:

Fedora Rawhide-20180906.n.0 compose check report

2018-09-06 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 33/132 (x86_64), 2/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20180904.n.0): ID: 275452 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_freeipa_replication_replica URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/275452 ID: 275514

Call for participation: Fedora Flatpaks

2018-09-06 Thread Owen Taylor
I'd like to invite Fedora contributors to start creating Flatpaks of graphical applications in Fedora. We're still working on putting the final pieces into place to have a complete story from end to end, but it's definitely close enough to get started. If you maintain a graphical application, plea

Re: Brainstorming about kernel updates with low disk space

2018-09-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 8:44 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > I'd like to brainstorm a bit about how to make kernel updates more > resilient to running out of disk space. I've talked to a few people on > IRC about this but I'm not at the point where I know enough to file good > bugs and figured t

F28 updates-testing

2018-09-06 Thread Bojan Smojver
Does anyone understand what most recent masher messages mean for F28 updates testing? bodhi masher failed to mash f28-updates-testing 3 hours agobodhi masher successfully mashed f28-updates-testing 3 hours ago Confusing... -- Bojan ___ devel mailing

Re: F28 updates-testing

2018-09-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 09/06/2018 08:05 PM, Bojan Smojver wrote: > Does anyone understand what most recent masher messages mean for F28 updates > testing? > > bodhi masher failed to mash f28-updates-testing 3 hours agobodhi masher > successfully mashed f28-updates-testing 3 hours ago > Confusing... yeah, it seems:

Re: Brainstorming about kernel updates with low disk space

2018-09-06 Thread Ondřej Lysoněk
On 6.9.2018 16:44, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > * The kernel could "pre-allocate" space in /var/tmp (by %ghosting a > dummy nonzero-length file there) so that the package simply won't > install if there isn't space sufficient to generate the initramfs. > Would that be something we could reas

Re: Self introduction: Alain Vigne

2018-09-06 Thread Alain Vigne
Hello ? No one interested ? How do I move forward ? On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 9:05 AM Alain Vigne wrote: > Hi everyone, > I am Alain, a French EE engineer using Fedora 28 and EDA open source > tools, for a long time now. > > I am part of the pcb-rnd developer upstream > http://repo.hu/projects/pcb-

Re: Call for participation: Fedora Flatpaks

2018-09-06 Thread Robin Lee
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 9:53 AM Owen Taylor wrote: > > I'd like to invite Fedora contributors to start creating Flatpaks of > graphical applications in Fedora. We're still working on putting the final > pieces into place to have a complete story from end to end, but it's > definitely close enoug