Re: Kernel updates breaking grub configuration with tuned

2018-03-29 Thread Ondřej Lysoněk
On 28.3.2018 20:58, Christopher wrote: > So, I've been seeing this problem recently where every time I update the > Fedora kernel (currently F27), my grub configuration gets mangled. > > I have tuned installed, so it has installed /etc/grub.d/00_tuned, which > executes /etc/tuned/bootcmdline, whic

Fedora-Atomic 27-20180329.0 compose check report

2018-03-29 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 2/2 (x86_64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorap

Re: Gating packages in Rawhide

2018-03-29 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le 2018-03-28 12:52, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : Hi With bodhi: - Single package update https://pingou.fedorapeople.org/gating_rawhide/GatingRawhide_bodhi.png - Multi-packages update Not terribly fond of anything that offloads multi-build intellignece coordination on packagers, forcing

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Stop building 389-ds-base on i686

2018-03-29 Thread Florian Weimer
On 03/28/2018 08:48 PM, Tomasz Torcz 👁️ wrote: Note that while GCC produces broken code, this is actually an ABI bug, and we cannot change struct layout rules for long long retroactively. Maybe we could for _Atomic long long, but that would need a lengthy investigation, and I strongly believe th

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Stop building 389-ds-base on i686

2018-03-29 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, 16:24 Florian Weimer, wrote: > On 03/28/2018 08:48 PM, Tomasz Torcz 👁️ wrote: > > >> Note that while GCC produces broken code, this is actually an ABI bug, > and > >> we cannot change struct layout rules for long long retroactively. Maybe > we > >> could for _Atomic long long

Package Anki has a Non-responsive Maintainer, Christian Krause

2018-03-29 Thread Thomas Drake-Brockman
As per the Non-responsive Maintainer Policy (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers) I am posted to ask if anybody knows how to contact Christian Krause who is currently the maintainer of Anki in Fedora. They are yet to respond to my bug requesting that they res

Re: Package Anki has a Non-responsive Maintainer, Christian Krause

2018-03-29 Thread Timotheus Pokorra
Hello Thomas, I am posted to ask if anybody knows how to contact Christian Krause who is currently the maintainer of Anki in Fedora. I have sent him an e-mail to his personal address, and I hope he will respond to this thread soon. Timotheus ---

Re: Announcing DNF 3 development

2018-03-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matěj Cepl wrote: > When switching the programming langauge than I would think there > are some better C-successors than C++, namely Rust? Mad rush of > giving up on 46 years old language and switching to one which is > just 33 years old seems a bit bizarre to me. But the "33 years old" language W

Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28 (caused by Annobin?)

2018-03-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Hi, on #fedora-kde, we discussed a huge increase to the size of the KDE live image: F27 KDE GA: 1656752111 bytes F27 KDE Respin: 1744830464 bytes F28 KDE Beta: 2069889024 bytes It turns out the LXQt live image is also hit: F27 LXQt GA: < 1 GiB F28 LXQt Beta: 1.4 GiB and I am pretty sure that thi

Re: Gating packages in Rawhide

2018-03-29 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 09:09:09PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 10:20:12AM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 01:00:32PM -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: > > > I would like to kick off a general discussion about how we might gate > > > pack

Re: Gating packages in Rawhide

2018-03-29 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:47:50AM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le 2018-03-28 12:52, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > Hi > > > With bodhi: > > - Single package update > > https://pingou.fedorapeople.org/gating_rawhide/GatingRawhide_bodhi.png > > - Multi-packages update > > Not terribly fond o

Re: Gating packages in Rawhide

2018-03-29 Thread Randy Barlow
Hello again! There's been a lot of discussion on this thread, and some useful feedback. Thanks! I would like to make a clearer proposal about how gating in Rawhide would work: Multi-package update workflow = When a packager wants to update multiple interdependent pa

Re: Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28 (caused by Annobin?)

2018-03-29 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 8:43 AM Kevin Kofler wrote: > Hi, > > on #fedora-kde, we discussed a huge increase to the size of the KDE live > image: > F27 KDE GA: 1656752111 bytes > F27 KDE Respin: 1744830464 bytes > F28 KDE Beta: 2069889024 <(206)%20988-9024> bytes > > It turns out the LXQt live imag

Re: Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28 (caused by Annobin?)

2018-03-29 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 9:16 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 8:43 AM Kevin Kofler > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> on #fedora-kde, we discussed a huge increase to the size of the KDE live >> image: >> F27 KDE GA: 1656752111 bytes >> F27 KDE Respin: 1744830464 bytes >> F28 KDE Beta:

Re: Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28 (caused by Annobin?)

2018-03-29 Thread Florian Weimer
On 03/29/2018 02:42 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Is this size increase caused by Annobin? Very unlikely. We only have 356 MB of annobin data in the entire x86-64 buildroot. That's 1.7% of the total ELF binary size. Thanks, Florian ___ devel mailing li

Re: Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28 (caused by Annobin?)

2018-03-29 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 9:32 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > I just checked several packages that compiled the same sources on F26 and > F28: > * sscg: 4.31% increase in size > * nodejs 8: 22% *decrease* in size > * libmodulemd: 12% *decrease* in size > * sssd-common: 2.58% increase in size > *

Re: Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28 (caused by Annobin?)

2018-03-29 Thread Martin Bříza
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:32:06 +0200, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 9:16 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 8:43 AM Kevin Kofler wrote: Hi, on #fedora-kde, we discussed a huge increase to the size of the KDE live image: F27 KDE GA: 1656752111 byt

Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28: Noto CJK Fonts

2018-03-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Hi, we did more debugging on #fedora-kde (thanks in particular to lupinix) and we found what seems to be the primary source of the bloat: CJK fonts! CJK fonts are by far the largest of all fonts due to the huge number of characters used in those languages. Up to Fedora 26, Fedora shipped 4 CJK f

Re: Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28: Noto CJK Fonts

2018-03-29 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:12 AM Kevin Kofler wrote: > Hi, > > we did more debugging on #fedora-kde (thanks in particular to lupinix) and > we found what seems to be the primary source of the bloat: CJK fonts! > > CJK fonts are by far the largest of all fonts due to the huge number of > character

Re: Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28: Noto CJK Fonts

2018-03-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 15:57 +, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:12 AM Kevin Kofler > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > we did more debugging on #fedora-kde (thanks in particular to lupinix) and > > we found what seems to be the primary source of the bloat: CJK fonts! > > > > CJK

Re: Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28: Noto CJK Fonts

2018-03-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 16:12 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > wqy-microhei-fonts is very effective, but unfortunately it only covers > Simplified Chinese and the syllabic parts of Japanese and Korean, not the > Traditional Chinese, Japanese or Korean renderings of the CJK Unified > Ideographs.) AIUI, t

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Stop building 389-ds-base on i686

2018-03-29 Thread Tomasz Torcz
March 29, 2018 12:06 PM, "Peter Robinson" wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, 16:24 Florian Weimer, wrote: > >> On 03/28/2018 08:48 PM, Tomasz Torcz 👁️ wrote: >> Note that while GCC produces broken code, this is actually an ABI bug, and we cannot change struct layout rules for long long re

Re: Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28: Noto CJK Fonts

2018-03-29 Thread Owen Taylor
It sounds like what we are doing is shipping the "regional subset" fonts for all 4 CJK scripts. I wonder if we would do better to ship one unified font - I believe that at least with the GNOME stack, the rendered results will be equivalent, since Pango+Harfbuzz should set appropriate 'locl' tags (h

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Stop building 389-ds-base on i686

2018-03-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 29 March 2018 at 07:00, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > March 29, 2018 12:06 PM, "Peter Robinson" wrote: > >> On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, 16:24 Florian Weimer, wrote: >> >>> On 03/28/2018 08:48 PM, Tomasz Torcz 👁️ wrote: >>> > Note that while GCC produces broken code, this is actually an ABI bug, and

Fedora 28 Beta status is GO, release on April 03, 2018

2018-03-29 Thread Jan Kurik
The Fedora 28 Beta RC3 compose [1] is considered as GOLD and is going to be shipped live on Tuesday, April 3rd, 2018. For more information please check the Go/No-Go meeting minutes [2] or logs [3]. I would like to thank all the people who were and are still working on this release. [1] http://dl

Re: [games-sig] Re: Can we revise the games packaging guidelines wiki page?

2018-03-29 Thread Justin W. Flory
On 03/28/2018 02:21 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: > On 3/28/18 1:17 PM, Artur Iwicki wrote: >> I took a look at "SIG/Games/Packaging" page [1] on the Fedora wiki, and it >> seems to be quite old - the revision history says the last edit was made in >> May 2008, which places it at close to 10 years ol

Re: Fedora 28 Beta status is GO, release on April 03, 2018

2018-03-29 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 07:18:32PM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: > The Fedora 28 Beta RC3 compose [1] is considered as GOLD and is going to be > shipped live on Tuesday, April 3rd, 2018. > > For more information please check the Go/No-Go meeting minutes [2] or logs > [3]. > > I would like to thank all

Re: Fedora 28 Beta status is GO, release on April 03, 2018

2018-03-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 17:35 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 07:18:32PM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: > > The Fedora 28 Beta RC3 compose [1] is considered as GOLD and is going to be > > shipped live on Tuesday, April 3rd, 2018. > > > > For more information please check

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Stop building 389-ds-base on i686

2018-03-29 Thread Mark Reynolds
On 03/28/2018 12:29 AM, John Reiser wrote: > On 03/27/2018 14:17 UTC, Jan Kurik wrote: >> = Proposed Self Contained Change: Stop building 389-ds-base on i686 = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/389-ds-base-remove-686 >> >> >> Owner(s): >>    * Mark Reynolds >> >> >> 389-ds-base does not

Re: Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28: Noto CJK Fonts

2018-03-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > AIUI, this means it really only works for simplified Chinese users > (which means, approximately, mainland China; other Chinese-speaking > territories tend to use traditional Chinese). AIUI, WQY MicroHei actually tries to cover the traditional-only, Japanese-only or Korean

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Stop building 389-ds-base on i686

2018-03-29 Thread Florian Weimer
On 03/29/2018 10:25 PM, Mark Reynolds wrote: We can not back out the atomic work because it's needed to address several issues in our server. One thing that's still not clear to me: What happens on 32-bit architectures which do not have 64-bit atomics? Are they buggy in a different way, and

Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Stop building 389-ds-base on i686

2018-03-29 Thread Mark Reynolds
On 03/29/2018 04:45 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 03/29/2018 10:25 PM, Mark Reynolds wrote: >> We can not back out the atomic work >> because it's needed to address several issues in our server. First of all, I updated the request wiki page to answer some of John's questions. > > One thing that

Re: Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28: Noto CJK Fonts

2018-03-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 22:37 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > AIUI, this means it really only works for simplified Chinese users > > (which means, approximately, mainland China; other Chinese-speaking > > territories tend to use traditional Chinese). > > AIUI, WQY MicroHei ac

Re: Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28: Noto CJK Fonts

2018-03-29 Thread Chris Murphy
Short version: I suggest setting the Live ISO size limit to 4GB (3.7GiB), and including whatever fonts the g11n folks think a global operating system should have. Alternatively, have Latin and Global Live media but I think the download savings having two separate media is probably outweighed by pro

Re: Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28: Noto CJK Fonts

2018-03-29 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 5:29 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > Short version: > I suggest setting the Live ISO size limit to 4GB (3.7GiB), and > including whatever fonts the g11n folks think a global operating > system should have. Alternatively, have Latin and Global Live media > but I think the download

Re: Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28: Noto CJK Fonts

2018-03-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 17:29 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > Short version: > I suggest setting the Live ISO size limit to 4GB (3.7GiB), and > including whatever fonts the g11n folks think a global operating > system should have. Alternatively, have Latin and Global Live media > but I think the downloa

Re: Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28: Noto CJK Fonts

2018-03-29 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 17:29 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> Short version: >> I suggest setting the Live ISO size limit to 4GB (3.7GiB), and >> including whatever fonts the g11n folks think a global operating >> system should have. Alternativ

[Test-Announce] 2018-04-02 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 28 Blocker Review Meeting

2018-03-29 Thread Adam Williamson
# F28 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2018-04-02 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net Hi folks! We have 3 proposed blockers and 4 proposed freeze exception issues for Final to review, so let's have a review meeting on Monday. If you have time this weekend, you c

[Test-Announce] 2018-04-02 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2018-03-29 Thread Adam Williamson
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2018-04-02 # Time: 15:00 UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! We didn't meet for the last few weeks due to Beta work, so let's get together and check in on where w