Re: Fedora 27 mass rebuild at risk

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 21:48:46 -0400 Carlos O'Donell wrote: > On 07/11/2017 12:37 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > > If we're lucky we can get everything ready for the 12th, but we > > might need another day or two given how long it takes to build gcc > > on all the arches. > > We are getting more luc

Re: F27 System Wide Change: Graphical Applications as Flatpaks

On 2017-07-12, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > Very few applications actually have SELinux profiles, and they are all > maintained downstream rather than upstream. The volume of erroneous > SELinux denials in Bugzilla is too high, and the response time for > fixing them too slow. SELinux profiles wo

Re: Strange situation with Wine on Fedora 27

> Hello, I'm just trying to install the Wine via dnf and get: > # dnf install wine ... Error: Transaction check error: >   file /usr/share/doc/gstreamer1/NEWS from install of > gstreamer1-1.12.1-1.fc27.i686 > conflicts with file from package gstreamer1-1.12.0-1.fc27.x86_64 >   file /usr/share/doc/

Re: cbang build error on epel

> Argument 4 is the "n". The problem is with the definition of "PRIo64. > There was a recent commit attempting to fix that, but it probably needs > some adjustment to handle your case. Check out the lines around line 48 > in that file and see if you can patch it to work in all cases. The odd

Re: pure-ftpd 1.0.46 released!

I am builded it https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=20472651 You can try this build and check it functionality. Also I can try tslk with maintainers and may be gone comaintainer. Then I will update package in repos. ср, 12 июл. 2017 г. в 9:11, Petr Pisar : > On 2017-07-11, Vascom

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

I'm still using some old 32 bit physical servers with Fedora, and they still work well! So I would like to have a 32 bit kernel for some other releases, maybe f28 if possible. Guido 2017-07-12 2:18 GMT+02:00 Solomon Peachy : > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:00:05AM +0200, Zdenek Kabelac wrote: >> The

Re: cbang build error on epel

> GCC > 6 That should say GCC 6 and newer ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: cbang build error on epel

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 08:17:46 - Samuel Rakitničan wrote: > > Argument 4 is the "n". The problem is with the definition of > > "PRIo64. There was a recent commit attempting to fix that, but it > > probably needs some adjustment to handle your case. Check out the > > lines around line 48 in th

Re: pure-ftpd 1.0.46 released!

Rebuild with corrected systemd service file. https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=20472917 ср, 12 июл. 2017 г. в 11:21, Vascom : > I am builded it > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=20472651 > You can try this build and check it functionality. > > Also I can try

Re: Fedora 27 mass rebuild at risk

On 07/12/2017 03:48 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > * Rebuild glibc > > * Patch committed to trunk [In progress -- IBM] > * codonell talking to IBM about fix for static linking. Not needed for the mass rebuild IMHO. > * Sync to Fedora [Waiting -- Red Hat] > * Waiting for new compiler t

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 at 02:06, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > Considering that SSE2 was introduced by Intel in 2001 and AMD caught up > > with it in 2003, I'd be +1 (with my FESCo hat on) to requiring SSE2, > > regardless of whether the above change is accepte

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On 07/12/2017 02:06 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: >> Considering that SSE2 was introduced by Intel in 2001 and AMD caught up >> with it in 2003, I'd be +1 (with my FESCo hat on) to requiring SSE2, >> regardless of whether the above change is accepted. > If you requ

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 at 12:04, Christian Dersch wrote: > On 07/12/2017 02:06 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > >> Considering that SSE2 was introduced by Intel in 2001 and AMD caught up > >> with it in 2003, I'd be +1 (with my FESCo hat on) to requiring SSE2,

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, 2017-07-12 at 11:57 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 at 02:06, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > > Considering that SSE2 was introduced by Intel in 2001 and AMD > > > caught up > > > with it in 2003, I'd be +1 (with my

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On 12/07/17 11:16, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 at 12:04, Christian Dersch wrote: Well, there is one very important CPU family which came some years later: Intel Atom. There are still many netbooks out there and the first Atom generations are 32 bit only afai

Re: Strange situation with Wine on Fedora 27

Thanks for reaction, the problem was in the duplicate: * gstreamer1-1.12.1-1.fc27* gstreamer1-1.12.0-1.fc27 Maybe it will be a good idea to use 'installonly_limit=1' into a dnf configuration sometimes. Regards. On Wednesday, July 12, 2017, 10:50:51 AM GMT+3, Samuel Rakitničan wrote: > Hell

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On 07/12/2017 12:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.07.2017 um 12:04 schrieb Christian Dersch: On 07/12/2017 02:06 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: Considering that SSE2 was introduced by Intel in 2001 and AMD caught up with it in 2003, I'd be +1 (with my FESCo

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On 07/11/2017 10:57 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 at 22:26, Florian Weimer wrote: I ran into this unannounced change: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Kernels I noticed this i

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On 07/12/2017 11:57 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 at 02:06, Kevin Kofler wrote: Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: Considering that SSE2 was introduced by Intel in 2001 and AMD caught up with it in 2003, I'd be +1 (with my FESCo hat on) to requiring SSE

Re: pure-ftpd 1.0.46 released!

I was going to rebase it as well. You can find my package here: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/msehnout/pure-ftpd/ but I also don't have commit access. On 07/12/2017 10:35 AM, Vascom wrote: > Rebuild with corrected systemd service file. > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?task

Re: Fedora 27 mass rebuild at risk

On 07/12/2017 10:44 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 07/12/2017 03:48 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: >> * Rebuild glibc >> >> * Patch committed to trunk [In progress -- IBM] >> * codonell talking to IBM about fix for static linking. > > Not needed for the mass rebuild IMHO. I was wrong about th

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On 07/12/2017 12:16 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: I still have my N270 netbook, but I guess even more people still have Z6xx-based devices. Still, they're over 7 years old at this point. The N270s are still supported by Windows 10. Furthermore: Linux (thus Fedora) has always one o

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On 07/11/2017 10:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:26:03PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: I ran into this unannounced change: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Kernels If this is accepted, all x86 hardware on which Fedora can run will support SSE2,

Re: F27 System Wide Change: Graphical Applications as Flatpaks

mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: >> In the discussed approach where the Flatpak is composed from RPMs, the >> library is updated by upstream, packaged, the Flatpak is rebuilt with >> the >> new library, and that is delivered to the user. So the extra step >> happens >> between the packaging of the libra

Re: super-drafty F28 and F29 schedules

Michael Catanzaro wrote: > We need a GNOME 3.26 release. Then push it as an update to F26 as is done with KDE Plasma releases. Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists

Commencing perl to perl-interpreter rename

On 2017-06-15, Jan Kurik wrote: >= Proposed System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/perl_Package_to_Install_Core_Modules > Because all Fedora branches recognize perl-interpreter dependency now I will start renaming the dependency in all a

Re: super-drafty F28 and F29 schedules

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 09:36:28PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > On 07/06/2017 09:15 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/28/Schedule > > I encourage Jeff Law and Jakub Jelinek to review these schedules > for compiler related issues. > > This is just a perfuncto

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

- Original Message - > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:55:25PM +0200, Michal Schorm wrote: > > He won't install it on his home desktop PC or work laptop. He rather find > > an old dusty laptop from 2005 in his shed and starts to learn there. > > If we're being honest, a typical 2005-era lapto

ppisar pushed to perl-Date-ICal (master). "perl dependency renamed to perl-interpreter "

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Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

- Original Message - > If you intend to kill Fedora, and furtherly emphasize the impression of > Fedora not being community driven distro :( For the distro to be community-driven, somebody needs to get behind the wheel. Nobody's done that for i686 kernels. __

F27 Self Contained Change: Unified database for DNF

= Proposed Self Contained Change: Unified database for DNF = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Unified_database_for_DNF Change owner(s): * Eduard Čuba * Igor Gnatenko Replacing obsoleted YUM/DNF databases (yumdb, historydb, groups.json) with new unified sqlite database adapted to the curre

ppisar pushed to perl-threads-shared (master). "perl dependency renamed to perl-interpreter "

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Re: super-drafty F28 and F29 schedules

On 07/12/2017 02:10 PM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 09:36:28PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote: >> On 07/06/2017 09:15 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/28/Schedule >> >> I encourage Jeff Law and Jakub Jelinek to review these schedules >> for comp

Re: super-drafty F28 and F29 schedules

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 02:20:29PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > > 2018-01-10 is way too early for a mass rebuild from GCC point of view, > > even if we perform the test mass rebuild over the Christmas break, > > there won't be enough time to analyze it and fix any GCC issues revealed > > during t

F27 Self Contained Change: Packaging Rust applications/libraries

= Proposed Self Contained Change: Packaging Rust applications/libraries = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Packaging_Rust_applications_and_libraries Change owner(s): * Igor Gnatenko (on behalf of Rust SIG) Add required tools/instructions for packaging applications/libraries written in Rust

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:24 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 07/12/2017 11:57 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 at 02:06, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>> >>> Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: Considering that SSE2 was introduced by Intel in 2001 and AM

F27 Self Contained Change: No More i686 Kernels

= Proposed Self Contained Change: No More i686 Kernels = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Kernels Change owner(s): * Justin Forbes Stop building i686 kernels, reduce the i686 package to a kernel-headers package that can be used to build 32bit versions of everything else.

ppisar pushed to perl-Config-Model-Tester (master). "perl dependency renamed to perl-interpreter "

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Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On 07/12/2017 01:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.07.2017 um 13:24 schrieb Ralf Corsepius: On 07/12/2017 11:57 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 at 02:06, Kevin Kofler wrote: Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: Considering that SSE2 was introduced by Int

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 01:43:53PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > If cost is an issue, consider to drop all these ppc, arm, s370 and > mips targets. > > Their user base is like magnitudes smaller than the i686 user base, > while these target are having a significant impact (and thus cost) > on eve

ppisar pushed to perl-Sys-Syslog (master). "perl dependency renamed to perl-interpreter "

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ppisar pushed to perl-Software-License (master). "perl dependency renamed to perl-interpreter "

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Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 01:20:58PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >The fact that i686 kernels continue to work in general is basically luck. > You probably will deny this, but in practice it has been so for many > years, because the i686 has dropped out of RHAT's business interest. I don't think t

Re: F27 System Wide Change: Graphical Applications as Flatpaks

- Original Message - > > - make it possible to create Flatpaks quicker for some more complicated > > apps > > That just requires shipping the tools for third parties to use, not using > them to deliver software packaged by Fedora. The tooling is koji and bohdi. Shipping them isn't enou

F27 Self Contained Change: Improved Bay- and Cherry-Trail device support

= Proposed Self Contained Change: mproved Bay- and Cherry-Trail device support = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Improved_Bay_Cherry_Trail_Support Change owner(s): * Hans de Goede Improve support for hardware using Intel Bay Trail and Cherry Trail SoCs. == Detailed Description == There a

Re: super-drafty F28 and F29 schedules

On 07/12/2017 02:29 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 02:20:29PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: >>> 2018-01-10 is way too early for a mass rebuild from GCC point of view, >>> even if we perform the test mass rebuild over the Christmas break, >>> there won't be enough time to analyze

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

Hi, On 11-07-17 22:57, Josh Boyer wrote: On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 at 22:26, Florian Weimer wrote: I ran into this unannounced change: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Kernels I noticed this i

ppisar pushed to perl-lib-abs (master). "perl dependency renamed to perl-interpreter "

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Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 11-07-17 22:57, Josh Boyer wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski >> wrote: >>> >>> On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 at 22:26, Florian Weimer wrote: I ran into this unannounced change:

Re: pure-ftpd 1.0.46 released!

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 01:27:09PM +0200, Martin Sehnoutka wrote: > I was going to rebase it as well. You can find my package here: > https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/msehnout/pure-ftpd/ > > but I also don't have commit access. On 07/12/2017 10:35 AM, Vascom wrote: > Rebuild with corrected

Re: pure-ftpd 1.0.46 released!

Vascom schrieb am 2017-07-12 um 10:21: > I am builded > it https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=20472651 > You can try this build and check it functionality. > > Also I can try tslk with maintainers and may be gone comaintainer. > Then I will update package in repos. > > ср, 12 июл.

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 08:44:02AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 01:20:58PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > >The fact that i686 kernels continue to work in general is basically luck. > > You probably will deny this, but in practice it has been so for many > > years, becaus

Re: pure-ftpd 1.0.46 released!

bug report -> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1470184 Dominik Kucher schrieb am 2017-07-12 um 15:26: > Vascom schrieb am 2017-07-12 um 10:21: >> I am builded >> it https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=20472651 >> You can try this build and check it functionality. >> >> A

Re: Fedora 27 mass rebuild at risk

On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 02:53:36PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > We currently have an invalid IFUNC resolver in libgcc.a on POWER > (rhbz#1467526). glibc in rawhide recently started linking that into the > library and there are significant problems with that (rhbz#1467518). > > I'll be on PTO ne

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

Hi, On 12-07-17 15:18, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 11-07-17 22:57, Josh Boyer wrote: On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 at 22:26, Florian Weimer wrote: I ran into this unanno

Re: super-drafty F28 and F29 schedules

Le 07/07/2017 à 03:15, Matthew Miller a écrit : > I took a look at the planned F27 schedule > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/27/Schedule Less than 4 months between F26 and F27 ? Seriously ? ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: F27 Self Contained Change: No More i686 Kernels

Hi, On 12-07-17 14:36, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Proposed Self Contained Change: No More i686 Kernels = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Kernels > I hereby formally object against this being categorized as a "Self Contained Change" it clearly is not. Regards, Hans

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 08:17:06AM -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > If we're being honest, a typical 2005-era laptop is going to yield a > > rather lousy experience with any modern Linux Desktop. (And an even > > lousier experience with modern Windows!) > > This is my old go-to-blogpost for such

Re: pure-ftpd 1.0.46 released!

i have build it about a month it runs on my fedora 25 without problems the bug numbers are not valid -- [root@srv-dksoft:]# rpm -qa | grep pure-ftpd pure-ftpd-1.0.46-6.fc25

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

Hi, On 12-07-17 14:40, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 01:43:53PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: If cost is an issue, consider to drop all these ppc, arm, s370 and mips targets. Their user base is like magnitudes smaller than the i686 user base, while these target are having a sign

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > > On 12-07-17 15:18, Josh Boyer wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Hans de Goede >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 11-07-17 22:57, Josh Boyer wrote: On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzej

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On 11/07/2017 23:30, Solomon Peachy wrote: On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 04:43:27PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: Currently i686 users are at about 1/6th of x86_64 users, by mirror checkins. I don't have an easy way of knowing how many of those i686 checkins are old releases It's worth pointing out t

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On 12 July 2017 at 09:09, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 11-07-17 22:57, Josh Boyer wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski >> wrote: >>> >>> On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 at 22:26, Florian Weimer wrote: I ran into this unannounced change:

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:09 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > If the kernel team wants some specific help with ia32 support then > 2 things need to happen: > > 1) A clear request for help needs to be send > 2) What exactly they need help with needs to be clearly defined Has happened multiple times ove

Re: F27 System Wide Change: Graphical Applications as Flatpaks

After reading this, I think there's a false dichotomy here: On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:26 PM, wrote: > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Kevin Kofler > wrote: >> >> There ought to be better ways to sandbox applications than to turn them >> into >> what is essentially a full container (i.e., almos

Re: super-drafty F28 and F29 schedules

On 07/12/2017 06:10 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 09:36:28PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote: >> On 07/06/2017 09:15 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/28/Schedule >> >> I encourage Jeff Law and Jakub Jelinek to review these schedules >> for comp

Re: Self Introduction

On 07/12/2017 03:04 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:22:55PM +0800, Felix Yan wrote: >> Hi, >> >> My name is Felix Yan, and I am building my first Fedora package [1]. I >> hope it can be accepted into the Fedora project. > > Hi, > > welcome to Fedora! > > #1468

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On 11 July 2017 at 16:43, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:26:03PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: >> I ran into this unannounced change: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Kernels >> If this is accepted, all x86 hardware on which Fedora can run will >> s

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

Hi, On 12-07-17 16:33, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 12-07-17 15:18, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 11-07-17 22:57, Josh Boyer wrote: On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Dominik 'Rathann'

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2015-February/208368.html > > > Which is yet another generic, non specific call for help. Which > unsurprisingly (given its unspecificness) did probably not get > a lot of response. Find bugs

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > > On 12-07-17 16:33, Josh Boyer wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Hans de Goede >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> On 12-07-17 15:18, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Hans de Goede

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 12-07-17 14:40, Matthew Miller wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 01:43:53PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >>> >>> If cost is an issue, consider to drop all these ppc, arm, s370 and >>> mips targets. >>> >>> Their user base is li

Re: F27 Self Contained Change: No More i686 Kernels

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 12-07-17 14:36, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> = Proposed Self Contained Change: No More i686 Kernels = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Kernels >> > > I hereby formally object against this being > categoriz

Re: super-drafty F28 and F29 schedules

On 12 July 2017 at 10:15, Remi Collet wrote: > Le 07/07/2017 à 03:15, Matthew Miller a écrit : > >> I took a look at the planned F27 schedule >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/27/Schedule > > Less than 4 months between F26 and F27 ? > Seriously ? Yes, I realize a lot of people are waking

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, 2017-07-12 at 09:05 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:09 AM, Hans de Goede > wrote: > > > If the kernel team wants some specific help with ia32 support then > > 2 things need to happen: > > > > 1) A clear request for help needs to be send > > 2) What exactly they nee

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 at 13:30, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 07/12/2017 12:16 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > > I still have my N270 netbook, but I guess even more people still have > > Z6xx-based devices. Still, they're over 7 years old at this point. > > The N270s are still sup

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 at 13:24, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 07/12/2017 11:57 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 at 02:06, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > > > Considering that SSE2 was introduced by Intel in 2001 and AMD c

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 04:24:22PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Which is yet another generic, non specific call for help. Which > unsurprisingly (given its unspecificness) did probably not get > a lot of response. > > What would be helpful is a concrete list of things people who > care about i686

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 01:44:29PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > support. As noted in this thread, this isn't just Red Hat -- it is true > > of upstream i686 as well. No one is really interested in this. I > > guarantee you that if some non-Red Hat person showed up and said "Hey, >

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 02:36:22PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >that is FUD and polemic > Well, I of course have disagree. The course Fedora has taken is > obvious: Servers and containers. I don't understand this perception. Yes, servers and containers are important. But we pretty clearly have

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On 07/12/2017 07:43 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Currently i686 users are at about 1/6th of x86_64 users, by mirror checkins. I don't have an easy way of knowing how many of those i686 checkins are old releases -- I'll need to ask Smooge to make a custom report -- but I think it's fair to guess that

Re: F27 Self Contained Change: No More i686 Kernels

On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 at 18:40, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 12-07-17 14:36, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > >> = Proposed Self Contained Change: No More i686 Kernels = > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Ker

Starting an x86_32 SIG

This is a notice to see if people are really interested in having a SIG on 32 bit Intel. I haven't created a SIG so I am researching what is needed but I started with this page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/x86 which mirrors the various other Architecture pages I looked at. A Speci

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:27:06AM +0200, Guido Aulisi wrote: > I'm still using some old 32 bit physical servers with Fedora, and they > still work well! > So I would like to have a 32 bit kernel for some other releases, maybe > f28 if possible. Maybe you could keep the F26 kernel and try running

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On 07/12/2017 06:09 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: I still have (some) 32 bit hardware in use and I must say that I was not aware of this zombie state. i686 kernels have been working fine for me otherwise I would have likely stepped up to fix things (or if that was too much work replace my last 32bit h

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > I guess if this change goes through I > will be looking into how to run a 64-bit kernel and 32-bit userspace. We > also still have a few laptops that are running 32-bit Fedora, but they don't > have to and they will all be retired within a yea

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 14:45:29 -0400 Chuck Anderson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:27:06AM +0200, Guido Aulisi wrote: > > I'm still using some old 32 bit physical servers with Fedora, and > > they still work well! > > So I would like to have a 32 bit kernel for some other releases, > > maybe f

Re: Starting an x86_32 SIG

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 20:32:57 +0200, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > 2. A formal statement as requested by some users about the architecture > 3. A survey of problems on the architecture. > 4. A hardware selection the SIG are going to focus on. > 5. What product the SIG is planning to deliver. Just t

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On 07/12/2017 12:12 PM, Matthew Smith wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: I guess if this change goes through I will be looking into how to run a 64-bit kernel and 32-bit userspace. We also still have a few laptops that are running 32-bit Fedora, but they don't have to a

Re: F27 System Wide Change: Graphical Applications as Flatpaks

On 07/12/2017 05:44 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: "developers not having to learn GPG to sign their *Flatpak* releases" I really don't understand how you misinterpreted that sentence so badly, individual Fedora developers never had to GPG sign their Fedora packages... That "*Flatpak*" was not in t

Re: Fedora 27 mass rebuild at risk

On 07/12/2017 03:34 AM, Dan Horák wrote: >> * Fix Go 1.8.1 for s390x > > this is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1460254 - > buggy interaction between golang and new binutils That's right, we knew what it was, but fixing it is not that easy since it's generic binutils machinery that s

Re: [SONAME change] MySQL, MariaDB

On Mon, 2017-07-03 at 15:12 +0200, Michal Schorm wrote: > Hello everybody! > > Since MariaDB 10.2 is finally stable and I resolved all issues that blocked > it for Fedora, I'd like to propose an update for Rawhide. > > Current version of MariaDB: 10.1.24 > Update planned to: 10.2.6 (or newer) >

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

My own two cents in this whole thing, after reading this entire thread... Matt's right. This isn't a call to action because the release is a week away and there's critical 32-but bugs that need fixed. This isn't a call for support because there's specific bugs that need fixed. This is a call

Re: super-drafty F28 and F29 schedules

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 02:10:30PM +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > 2018-01-10 is way too early for a mass rebuild from GCC point of view, > even if we perform the test mass rebuild over the Christmas break, > there won't be enough time to analyze it and fix any GCC issues revealed > during that time.

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, 2017-07-12 at 13:44 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 08:44:02AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 01:20:58PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > > The fact that i686 kernels continue to work in general is basically > > > > luck. > >

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On 12 July 2017 at 16:32, Adam Williamson wrote: > To give an example outside of the kernel, the installer 'Reclaim Space' > function has been broken on i686 for about 10 months, and no-one seems > to be lining up to fix that one either: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1375732 Th

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

On Wed, 2017-07-12 at 13:32 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2017-07-12 at 13:44 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 08:44:02AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 01:20:58PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > > > The fact that i686 ke

Re: super-drafty F28 and F29 schedules

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 04:30:12PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > So, "one week earlier than last time" would be January 31st. (Or 30th? > Depends if we want that on a Tuesday like everything else or Wednesday > like this time around, if it matters.) Is that enough to help? Let me > rework it and l

Re: super-drafty F28 and F29 schedules

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 04:45:56PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 04:30:12PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > So, "one week earlier than last time" would be January 31st. (Or 30th? > > Depends if we want that on a Tuesday like everything else or Wednesday > > like this time

Re: cbang build error on epel

> I guess it depends if (and how) inttypes.h header gets included, it's > provided by glibc. > > > Dan Find out some more information, do in both Fedora and EPEL __STDC_FORMAT_MACROS is not defined. The difference is in following patch: https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=blo

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