Firebird update and Libreoffice dependency

2016-10-08 Thread Philippe Makowski
Hi, Firebird 3.0.1 is released, I can upgrade the package in Fedora, I have a Copr repo with it : https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/makowski/firebird/ The problem is that Firebird 3 don't provide anymore fbembed lib, they put all in firebird lib. For Mageia, to don't disturb LibreOffice, I

Re: grub, grubby, btrfs, was: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE ...

2016-10-08 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> Changed this subject to match the other one I changed, so if I'm doing >>> it wrong at least I'm consistent! >>> >>> On Fri, Oct

Re: OpenSSL 1.1.0 in Rawhide very soon

2016-10-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Tomas Mraz wrote: > At worst if the patching of a package is highly non-trivial and the > upstream is not responsive we might have to drop the package from > Fedora. > > We do not want to keep 1.0.2 devel around as that could make it to look > like the 1.0.2 is still fully "supported" in Fedora an

Re: F26 proposal: Make Fedora Media Writer the officially supported USB install media creator

2016-10-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > At the risk of muddying the waters a bit: now that OverlayFS is here, I > think that even a dd-copied image should be able to support persistence. > The image could notice that it's dd-copied (by checking GPT GUIDs or > layout or whatever), see that there's extra space at

Re: F26 proposal: Make Fedora Media Writer the officially supported USB install media creator

2016-10-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chris Murphy wrote: > dmverity is a valid option geared explicitly for this and can include > Reed-Solomon error correction; Ouch, please no! Reed-Solomon is going to blow up the size of the live images a lot, when all that's really needed is a simple checksum. > and Btrfs. The Btrfs option is k

Re: grub, grubby, btrfs, was: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE ...

2016-10-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chris Murphy wrote: > My recollection is grubby was going to get a rethink, but I don't know > the scope. There are test cases built-into grubby that are considered > valuable, I'm not sure about the rest. Gene found the code difficult. > I think the main issue is, whether grubby or something else,

Re: Weak password madness is back again

2016-10-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Tomas Mraz wrote: > The only place where the password strength check should not be > overridable is when a regular user tries to change his own password. No, even that should not happen unless the local administrator explicitly opted to enforce some such policy (and the exact policy to enforce is

Re: Weak password madness is back again

2016-10-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Catanzaro wrote: > The status quo is that we are not in compliance with FESCo's policy > [1], which clearly applies to all tools that change passwords and not > just anaconda, but we can't change anything in GNOME until libpwquality > stops blocking weak passwords via its PAM module, since

Re: Installation validation test change proposal: merge USB tests into 'default boot and install', add more environment columns

2016-10-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > to summarize the changes - we improve the test case's wording to give > explicit instructions for all three media types we care about (virtual > disc attached to a VM, real optical disc in a real machine, real USB > stick in a real machine), we ditch the USB test matrices e

Re: including EOL and vulnerable software in Fedora

2016-10-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > My proposal is: > 1. Prevent EOL software with known security vulnerabilities from > entering Fedora in the first place, i.e. make it a review bullet point > (if the package is EOL it MUST NOT have any known security > vulnerabilties). If existing packages ar

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20161008.n.0 changes

2016-10-08 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20161007.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20161008.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:6 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 1 Dropped packages:1 Upgraded packages: 49 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 264.88 KiB Size of dropped packages

Re: F26 proposal: Make Fedora Media Writer the officially supported USB install media creator

2016-10-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Oct 03, 2016 at 12:49:07PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > Based on today's blocker review meeting discussion, and this email > thread [1] I'd like to propose making only Fedora Media Writer the > *officially supported* USB installation media creation tool, starting > with Fedora 26. First qu

Re: Installation validation test change proposal: merge USB tests into 'default boot and install', add more environment columns

2016-10-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2016-10-08 at 14:50 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > to summarize the changes - we improve the test case's wording to give > > explicit instructions for all three media types we care about (virtual > > disc attached to a VM, real optical disc in a real machine, real U

Fedora 25-20161008.n.0 compose check report

2016-10-08 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 14/102 (x86_64), 1/17 (i386), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test did not fail in 25-20161007.n.0): ID: 39837 Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso base_update_cli URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/39837 ID: 39843 Test: arm Minimal-raw_xz-

Fedora Rawhide-20161008.n.0 compose check report

2016-10-08 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 22/102 (x86_64), 6/17 (i386), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20161007.n.0): ID: 39697 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_notifications_postinstall URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/39697 ID: 39701

Re: F26 proposal: Make Fedora Media Writer the officially supported USB install media creator

2016-10-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2016-10-08 at 14:24 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Mon, Oct 03, 2016 at 12:49:07PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > Based on today's blocker review meeting discussion, and this email > > thread [1] I'd like to propose making only Fedora Media Writer the > > *officially support

Re: F26 proposal: Make Fedora Media Writer the officially supported USB install media creator

2016-10-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Mon, Oct 03, 2016 at 12:49:07PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> Based on today's blocker review meeting discussion, and this email >> thread [1] I'd like to propose making only Fedora Media Writer the >> *officially supported* U

Re: grub, grubby, btrfs, was: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE ...

2016-10-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 5:24 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Chris Murphy >>> wrote: Changed this subject to match the other one I changed, so if I'm do

Re: F26 proposal: Make Fedora Media Writer the officially supported USB install media creator

2016-10-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Oct 08, 2016 at 08:59:33AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sat, 2016-10-08 at 14:24 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 03, 2016 at 12:49:07PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > Based on today's blocker review meeting discussion, and this email > > > thread [1] I'd li

Re: F26 proposal: Make Fedora Media Writer the officially supported USB install media creator

2016-10-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2016-10-08 at 11:40 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 03, 2016 at 12:49:07PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > Based on today's blocker review meeting discussion, and this email > > > thread [1] I'd like to prop

Re: F26 proposal: Make Fedora Media Writer the officially supported USB install media creator

2016-10-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2016-10-08 at 22:33 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sat, Oct 08, 2016 at 08:59:33AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sat, 2016-10-08 at 14:24 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 03, 2016 at 12:49:07PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > Based on tod

Re: Fedora Rawhide-20161008.n.0 compose check report

2016-10-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2016-10-08 at 17:15 +, Fedora compose checker wrote: > No missing expected images. > > Failed openQA tests: 22/102 (x86_64), 6/17 (i386), 1/2 (arm) So there was a mix here of test issues (a workaround in the Cockpit test needed to be removed for Rawhide as the bug it worked around has

Re: Proposal: remove insecure WebKitGTK+ packages for F27

2016-10-08 Thread Scott Talbert
On Thu, 22 Sep 2016, Michael Catanzaro wrote: Thanks for working on this Scott! On Thu, 2016-09-22 at 20:37 -0400, Scott Talbert wrote: Also, I plan to create a separate wxGTK3 subpackage containing the webview  library that actually uses WebKit.  That way, some of these artificial  transitive

Re: including EOL and vulnerable software in Fedora

2016-10-08 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 8 October 2016 at 23:13, Kevin Kofler wrote: > These python[23][1-9] packages are entirely unnecessary and should go away > ASAP. They're not unnecessary for Python developers, as if you want to make sure you're not accidentally using any features from later versions of Python, the only way to

Re: including EOL and vulnerable software in Fedora

2016-10-08 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 11:42 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 8 October 2016 at 23:13, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> These python[23][1-9] packages are entirely unnecessary and should go away >> ASAP. > > They're not unnecessary for Python developers, as if you want to make > sure you're not accidentally us