Re: Self Introduction: Chenxiong Qi

2016-06-17 Thread Oliver Haessler
Hi and welcome Chenxiong - Original Message - > From: "Chenxiong Qi" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 6:36:08 AM > Subject: Re: Self Introduction: Chenxiong Qi > > Hi all, > > Hello everyone, my name is Chenxiong Qi. I'm living in Beijing and > currently

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20160617.n.0 changes

2016-06-17 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20160616.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20160617.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 9 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 69 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 30.07 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: Netcat

2016-06-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 16 June 2016 at 14:23, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: >> Christopher wrote: >> >>> So, I'm trying to understand what's going on with netcat. If anybody can >>> enlighten me, I'd appreciate it. Here's what I've found so far: >> >> Origin

Fedora Rawhide-20160617.n.0 compose check report

2016-06-17 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Cloud_base raw-xz i386 Atomic raw-xz x86_64 Kde raw-xz armhfp Minimal raw-xz armhfp Failed openQA tests: 12/83 (x86_64), 1/17 (i386) ID: 23096 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default@uefi URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/23096 ID: 23098 T

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 08:55:16PM +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: > Also, I'd like to point out that flatpak isn't always open wrt > sandboxing even now. Its possible to grant an app filesystem access, > and many currently do, but its also possible to run e.g. games without > filesystem access, an

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 02:24:26PM -0400, Ben Rosser wrote: > > I think that once the full sandboxing / portal system is in place, > > there _will_ be a tangible reason to prefer Flatpak. > Well, assuming that turns out to be the case, should our packaging > guidelines eventually become "do not mak

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 09:11:48PM +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: > For atomic workstation, this is the goal. We even need that, because in > that setup the OS (/usr) would be a read-only image (based on rpms), so > we could not install new rpms. Instead we'd take our existing rpms and > create fl

Re: Netcat

2016-06-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 17 June 2016 at 09:19, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Stephen John Smoogen > wrote: >> On 16 June 2016 at 14:23, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: >>> Christopher wrote: >>> So, I'm trying to understand what's going on with netcat. If anybody can enlighten me,

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-17 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 02:24:26PM -0400, Ben Rosser wrote: >> > I think that once the full sandboxing / portal system is in place, >> > there _will_ be a tangible reason to prefer Flatpak. >> Well, assuming that turns out to be the case, sh

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:25:13AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > Yes, is the direction I'm thinking. The Layered Image Build Service we > > have for Docker can automatically rebuild when there are updates to > > component RPMs, and it'd be nice if we could channel Flatpak through > > that. Flatpak d

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-17 Thread Owen Taylor
On Fri, 2016-06-17 at 09:59 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 09:11:48PM +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: > > For atomic workstation, this is the goal. We even need that, > > because in > > that setup the OS (/usr) would be a read-only image (based on > > rpms), so > > we could

Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2016-06-17)

2016-06-17 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Friday at 16:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '20

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:52:39 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:25:13AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > Yes, is the direction I'm thinking. The Layered Image Build > > > Service we have for Docker can automatically rebuild when there > > > are updates to component RPMs, and i

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:56:28AM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > > How would non-GUI applications be installed in this picture? > I'm not entirely sure what you have in mind for a non-GUI applications, > but options available include. For _services_, running in a docker container seems like a good s

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 09:53:05AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Well, it's strongly discouraged currently: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Relocatable_packages > it's not at all easy to make work right, so not sure this is the right > tool for this use. Well, the use case gi

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2016-06-17)

2016-06-17 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 === #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2016-06-17) === Meeting started by sgallagh at 16:01:03 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-06-17/fes

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-17 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 06/16/2016 05:57 PM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 15:44:11 -0400, Przemek wrote: I get that, but as I said, RPM can have sandboxing too, and so far it looks like the main vulnerability vector is unpatched software. Flatpack wouldn't have helped with heartbleed, and the right r

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-17 Thread Ben Rosser
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 02:24:26PM -0400, Ben Rosser wrote: > > > I think that once the full sandboxing / portal system is in place, > > > there _will_ be a tangible reason to prefer Flatpak. > > Well, assuming that turns out to be the case

Re: i686 failures

2016-06-17 Thread Christopher
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 7:40 PM Mat Booth wrote: > On 16 June 2016 at 20:16, Christopher wrote: > >> I'm trying to revive rpms/hadoop, but am running into some failures[1] on >> i686 in koji that I cannot reproduce locally in x86_64. The thing is... I >> don't really have any good 32-bit environ

Re: Netcat

2016-06-17 Thread Christopher
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 9:20 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Stephen John Smoogen > wrote: > > On 16 June 2016 at 14:23, Xose Vazquez Perez > wrote: > >> Christopher wrote: > >> > >>> So, I'm trying to understand what's going on with netcat. If anybody > can > >>>

ltrace FTBFS patch

2016-06-17 Thread DJ Delorie
Not sure where to send this, but... From 1280b78688baaf9a576af5a0a0a658fd0f0ea7e4 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: DJ Delorie Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 19:27:55 -0400 Subject: Fix FTBFS due to gcc and glibc updates - comment out tautological asserts that gcc 6 complains about - replace readdir_r (de

Re: ltrace FTBFS patch

2016-06-17 Thread Peter Robinson
How about https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&version=rawhide&component=ltrace On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 12:31 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > Not sure where to send this, but... > > From 1280b78688baaf9a576af5a0a0a658fd0f0ea7e4 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: DJ Delorie > Date: F

Re: ltrace FTBFS patch

2016-06-17 Thread DJ Delorie
> How about > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&version=rawhide&component=ltrace Done, BZ 1347879 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-17 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 15:05:01 -0400, you wrote: >I still think we, as a distribution, should not be in the business of >discouraging downstream packaging in favor of *upstream* provided flatpaks, >though (which was my original objection to the idea). Which is better for the user: 1) upstream Flat