Re: No minimal install anymore?

2016-06-16 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2016-06-15 at 20:18 -0500, den...@ausil.us wrote: >> Additionally everything is installable provides the minimal offering >> and has anaconda's defaults rather than servers. > > In case you couldn't parse that, Dennis means the 'Eve

Re: Why GUI software update tool is broken for me

2016-06-16 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
On Wed, 2016-06-15 at 12:41 -0400, Russell Doty wrote: > > Running tracer for a while can really open your eyes to how many > > things > > need restarting after normal updates flow.  > > > > One thing that might make this less annoying to people would be > > ability > > to schedule the reboot fo

Re: enable ABRT reports for glusterfs

2016-06-16 Thread Jakub Filak
Hi Kaleb, I believe glusterfs processes match the conditions where a core dump file is not produced (see man 5 core). Especially the set-user-ID & set-group-ID rule. I proposed to change the default value of suid_dumpable in February this year [1]. However, I am not sure if the outcome of th

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20160616.n.0 changes

2016-06-16 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20160615.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20160616.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:6 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 1 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 195 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 13.45 KiB Size of dropped packages

Fedora Rawhide-20160616.n.0 compose check report

2016-06-16 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Cloud_base raw-xz i386 Atomic raw-xz x86_64 Kde raw-xz armhfp Minimal raw-xz armhfp Failed openQA tests: 11/83 (x86_64), 4/17 (i386) ID: 22900 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default@uefi URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/22900 ID: 22909 T

RE: Why GUI software update tool is broken for me

2016-06-16 Thread John Florian
> From: Stephen Gallagher [mailto:sgall...@redhat.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 12:51 > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Subject: Re: Why GUI software update tool is broken for me > > > People *can* use the command-line to get the reboot behavior: > ``` > pkcon update --only-download >

Re: Why GUI software update tool is broken for me

2016-06-16 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 16/06/16 13:39 +, John Florian wrote: Oh cool and here I've been waiting to have this available outside of GNOME (as a Plasma user). However, I'm confused by my first experiment with it: $ sudo pkcon update --only-download Getting updates [=] Finis

Re: Why GUI software update tool is broken for me

2016-06-16 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2016-06-16 at 13:39 +, John Florian wrote: > Oh cool and here I've been waiting to have this available outside of > GNOME (as a Plasma user).  However, I'm confused by my first > experiment with it: > > > $ sudo pkcon update --only-download > Getting updates   [===

Fedora 24 compose report: 20160616.n.0 changes

2016-06-16 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-24-20160615.n.0 NEW: Fedora-24-20160616.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:4 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 2 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 3 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 27.27 MiB Size of dropped packages:0.00 B Size of

RE: Why GUI software update tool is broken for me

2016-06-16 Thread John Florian
> From: Jonathan Wakely [mailto:jwak...@fedoraproject.org] > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:14 > To: Development discussions related to Fedora > Subject: Re: Why GUI software update tool is broken for me > > On 16/06/16 13:39 +, John Florian wrote: > >Oh cool and here I've been waiting to ha

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-16 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > Challenge for the marketing folks: can we get these tech journalism > sites writing about Flatpak instead? About GNOME Software's new support > for displaying and installing Flatpaks in F24? Otherwise, I see > upstreams adopting Snappy a

RE: Why GUI software update tool is broken for me

2016-06-16 Thread John Florian
> From: Michael Catanzaro [mailto:mike.catanz...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of > Michael Catanzaro > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:21 > To: Development discussions related to Fedora > Cc: Kalev Lember > Subject: Re: Why GUI software update tool is broken for me > > On Thu, 2016-06-16 at 13:39 +,

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-16 Thread James Hogarth
> > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Michael Catanzaro > wrote: > >> Challenge for the marketing folks: can we get these tech journalism >> sites writing about Flatpak instead? About GNOME Software's new support >> for displaying and installing Flatpaks in F24? Otherwise, I see >> upstreams adopti

Fedora 24-20160616.n.0 compose check report

2016-06-16 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Workstation live i386 Cloud_base raw-xz i386 Workstation live x86_64 Failed openQA tests: 1/16 (i386), 1/2 (arm) ID: 23011 Test: arm Minimal-raw_xz-raw.xz base_services_start_arm URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/23011 ID: 23088 Test: i386 universal

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-16 Thread Jiri Eischmann
James Hogarth píše v Čt 16. 06. 2016 v 15:57 +0100: > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Michael Catanzaro > e.org> wrote: > > > Challenge for the marketing folks: can we get these tech > > > journalism > > > sites writing about Flatpak instead? About GNOME Software's new > > > support > > > for d

Re: Why GUI software update tool is broken for me

2016-06-16 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Thu, 2016-06-16 at 14:44 +, John Florian wrote: > > From: Jonathan Wakely [mailto:jwak...@fedoraproject.org] > > PackageKit and DNF use separate caches, which are not updated at > > the same time. Try "pkcon refresh" first to update its cache. > > Ok, I tried that but it made no difference.

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-16 Thread Jiri Eischmann
Gerald B. Cox píše v Čt 16. 06. 2016 v 11:45 -0300: > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Michael Catanzaro org> wrote: > > Challenge for the marketing folks: can we get these tech journalism > > sites writing about Flatpak instead? About GNOME Software's new > > support > > for displaying and ins

`sudo -u $USER` blocked in SELinux

2016-06-16 Thread Martin Ueding
I have a collection of scripts that rotate the screen and input devices on ThinkPad Tablet devices (X220 Tablet and the like). There a hook is installed into acpi which contains this: event=ibm/hotkey HKEY 0080 500[9a] action=/usr/bin/thinkpad-rotate-hook %e In that hook script we

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-16 Thread Ben Rosser
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 22:18:00 -0400, you wrote: > > >Snaps function very much like how Apple's ecosystem does for software > >delivery, and perhaps even Microsoft's UWP ecosystem too. It's very > >clear that the purpose of Snaps are to pr

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-16 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > KDE has been interested in Flatpak for over a year. They even have a > KDE runtime and a couple of KDE apps packaged: > https://community.kde.org/Flatpak That's a good thing...but I noticed that the page you directed me to above was ju

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-16 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Ben Rosser wrote: > In my vision of the future, we'd ship flatpaks and friends as a supplement > to, but not as a replacement of, RPMs. In fact, we'd go the other way. If > some GUI application was install-able as a flatpak in Fedora, and there was > someone inter

Netcat

2016-06-16 Thread Christopher
So, I'm trying to understand what's going on with netcat. If anybody can enlighten me, I'd appreciate it. Here's what I've found so far: It looks like rpms/nc was retired due to being orphaned for too long. It looks like the same thing (almost) happened to rpms/nc6. I think netcat is too importan

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 01:12:07PM -0400, Ben Rosser wrote: > ship pip, npm, etc? Where I become uncomfortable, and the reason I chimed > in on this thread initially, is with the idea that these new containerized > packaging systems are in some way *superior* to traditional packaging. Or > at least

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-16 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 01:12:07PM -0400, Ben Rosser wrote: >> ship pip, npm, etc? Where I become uncomfortable, and the reason I chimed >> in on this thread initially, is with the idea that these new containerized >> packaging systems are

Re: Netcat

2016-06-16 Thread Raphael Groner
From my point of view, dropping both nc and nc6 is the right way. # dnf whatprovides nc Letzte Prüfung auf abgelaufene Metadaten: vor 0:37:24 am Thu Jun 16 19:04:21 2016. nmap-ncat-2:7.12-1.fc24.x86_64 : Nmap's Netcat replacement Quelle : fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-16 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 06/16/2016 01:30 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 01:12:07PM -0400, Ben Rosser wrote: ship pip, npm, etc? Where I become uncomfortable, and the reason I chimed in on this thread initially, is with the idea that these new containerized packaging systems are in some way *superi

Re: Netcat

2016-06-16 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
Christopher wrote: > So, I'm trying to understand what's going on with netcat. If anybody can > enlighten me, I'd appreciate it. Here's what I've found so far: Original netcat is obsolete, try socat or nmap-ncat. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-16 Thread Ben Rosser
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 01:12:07PM -0400, Ben Rosser wrote: > > ship pip, npm, etc? Where I become uncomfortable, and the reason I chimed > > in on this thread initially, is with the idea that these new > containerized > > packaging systems

Fedora 24 Final RC1.2 is considered as GOLD and the status is GO

2016-06-16 Thread Jan Kurik
At the second round of Fedora 24 Final Go/No-Go Meeting, has just been Fedora 24 Final RC1.2 declared as GOLD. GA of this release is planed on Tuesday 2016-June-21. Meeting details can be seen here: Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2016-06-16/f24-final-go_no_go-meeting.

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-16 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Wed, 2016-06-15 at 12:46 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 06:25:17PM +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: > > > That's precisely what they are doing on non-Ubuntu distributions, > > > disabling confinement. > > Thats is pretty crappy. That means things will keep accidentally > >

Re: Fedora 24 Final RC1.2 is considered as GOLD and the status is GO

2016-06-16 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
On 16/06/16 11:46 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: > At the second round of Fedora 24 Final Go/No-Go Meeting, has just been > Fedora 24 Final RC1.2 declared as GOLD. > GA of this release is planed on Tuesday 2016-June-21. > > Meeting details can be seen here: > Minutes: > https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fed

Re: Fedora 24 Final RC1.2 is considered as GOLD and the status is GO

2016-06-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2016-06-16 at 12:02 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > On 16/06/16 11:46 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: > > At the second round of Fedora 24 Final Go/No-Go Meeting, has just been > > Fedora 24 Final RC1.2 declared as GOLD. > > GA of this release is planed on Tuesday 2016-June-21. > > > > Meeting deta

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-16 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Thu, 2016-06-16 at 14:07 -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > I think that once the full sandboxing / portal system is in place, > > there _will_ be a tangible reason to prefer Flatpak. >  Definitely true for third party packages that currenly require > pip/npm/rubygems/(curl | sh  :), but you seem

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-16 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Thu, 2016-06-16 at 14:24 -0400, Ben Rosser wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Matthew Miller > .org> wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 01:12:07PM -0400, Ben Rosser wrote: > > > ship pip, npm, etc? Where I become uncomfortable, and the reason > > I chimed > > > in on this thread initiall

i686 failures

2016-06-16 Thread Christopher
I'm trying to revive rpms/hadoop, but am running into some failures[1] on i686 in koji that I cannot reproduce locally in x86_64. The thing is... I don't really have any good 32-bit environment to test this locally. Hadoop isn't really suitable for 32-bit architectures (IMO) and I doubt it's a well

Re: i686 failures

2016-06-16 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On 06/16/2016 03:16 PM, Christopher wrote: > I'm trying to revive rpms/hadoop, but am running into some failures[1] on i686 > in koji that I cannot reproduce locally in x86_64. The thing is... I don't > really have any good 32-bit environment to test this locally. Hadoop isn't > really suitable for

Re: Netcat

2016-06-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 16 June 2016 at 14:23, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: > Christopher wrote: > >> So, I'm trying to understand what's going on with netcat. If anybody can >> enlighten me, I'd appreciate it. Here's what I've found so far: > > Original netcat is obsolete, try socat or nmap-ncat. I don't think this was

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-16 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 06/16/2016 03:09 PM, Alexander Larsson wrote: On Thu, 2016-06-16 at 14:07 -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: I think that once the full sandboxing / portal system is in place, there _will_ be a tangible reason to prefer Flatpak. Definitely true for third party packages that currenly require

Re: Fedora 24 Final RC1.2 is considered as GOLD and the status is GO

2016-06-16 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Using links for nightly composes sounds a reasonable suggestion. Perhaps writing a note about the missing images i.e. Design Suite and the reason behind would be great. I will update the wiki to reflect the change of the status. Luya -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://l

Re: i686 failures

2016-06-16 Thread gil
Il 16/06/2016 21:19, Stephen Gallagher ha scritto: On 06/16/2016 03:16 PM, Christopher wrote: >I'm trying to revive rpms/hadoop, but am running into some failures[1] on i686 >in koji that I cannot reproduce locally in x86_64. The thing is... I don't >really have any good 32-bit environment to

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-16 Thread Jiri Eischmann
Alexander Larsson píše v Čt 16. 06. 2016 v 21:11 +0200: > On Thu, 2016-06-16 at 14:24 -0400, Ben Rosser wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Matthew Miller > ct.org> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 01:12:07PM -0400, Ben Rosser wrote: > > > > ship pip, npm, etc? Where I become uncomfort

Re: i686 failures

2016-06-16 Thread Dan Horák
On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 19:16:38 + Christopher wrote: > I'm trying to revive rpms/hadoop, but am running into some failures > [1] on i686 in koji that I cannot reproduce locally in x86_64. The > thing is... I don't really have any good 32-bit environment to test > this locally. Hadoop isn't reall

Re: Why GUI software update tool is broken for me

2016-06-16 Thread Paul Wouters
> On Jun 15, 2016, at 12:51, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Traditionally, we've assumed a greater level of understanding for those who > use > CLI tools as opposed to GUI tools. It's expected that if someone is using DNF > directly, it's because they know what they are doing (and what risks that

Re: i686 failures

2016-06-16 Thread gil
Il 16/06/2016 22:32, Dan Horák ha scritto: On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 19:16:38 + Christopher wrote: I'm trying to revive rpms/hadoop, but am running into some failures [1] on i686 in koji that I cannot reproduce locally in x86_64. The thing is... I don't really have any good 32-bit environment

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-16 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 15:44:11 -0400, you wrote: >On 06/16/2016 03:09 PM, Alexander Larsson wrote: >> You seems to think about a different "security" than what flatpak >> provides. Say you run a game, packaged by fedora. Its nicely packaged >> and reviewed, so you're not running unreviewed, unsigned

Re: i686 failures

2016-06-16 Thread Mat Booth
On 16 June 2016 at 20:16, Christopher wrote: > I'm trying to revive rpms/hadoop, but am running into some failures[1] on > i686 in koji that I cannot reproduce locally in x86_64. The thing is... I > don't really have any good 32-bit environment to test this locally. Hadoop > isn't really suitable

Re: Fedora development of Snap packages

2016-06-16 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2016-06-14 at 14:32 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > There's an article on Ars as well. The "working with Fedora > developers" > claim is probably a misunderstanding on Softpedia's part; it's not > true, and I doubt Canonical would have said that. Just for the record... the Softpedia arti

Re: Self Introduction: Chenxiong Qi

2016-06-16 Thread Chenxiong Qi
Hi all, Hello everyone, my name is Chenxiong Qi. I'm living in Beijing and currently working for Red Hat in the Pnt-DevOps department. I've been developing and maintaining several internal projects that are written in Python, Perl, Ruby, and C, as well as some upstream projects like libabigai