On 19.11.2015 08:52, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Jan Kurik wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 05:32:02PM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote:
= Proposed System Wide Change: Systemd package split =
https://fedoraproj
Am 19.11.2015 um 01:46 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek:
2. What about non-glibc stuff? /usr/share/locale/ is 800MB on my system. It
would be nice to trim this down too. Afaics, #156477 or the glibc
subpackaging proposal will not help here at all
800 MB?
on my desktop it's 459 MB
on
On 19/11/15 09:11, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.11.2015 um 01:46 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek:
2. What about non-glibc stuff? /usr/share/locale/ is 800MB on my
system. It
would be nice to trim this down too. Afaics, #156477 or the glibc
subpackaging proposal will not help here at all
Hi,
On 18-11-15 08:06, Germano Massullo wrote:
Hi, I would like to ask "lua" and "compat-lua" maintainers if it is
possible to have a packaged 5.2 lua version.
A use case? Upstream Darktable ships a bundled Lua version 5.2, and it is
not compatible with Lua 5.3. Fedora's Darktable does not ship
On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 16:39 -0500, David Airlie wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Brian C. Lane"
> > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> > Sent: Thursday, 19 November, 2015 7:05:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: Dealing with the "my packages" problem
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 02:24:3
2015-11-19 10:51 GMT+01:00 Hans de Goede :
> Hi,
>
> On 18-11-15 08:06, Germano Massullo wrote:
>
>> Hi, I would like to ask "lua" and "compat-lua" maintainers if it is
>> possible to have a packaged 5.2 lua version.
>> A use case? Upstream Darktable ships a bundled Lua version 5.2, and it is
>> n
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 17:23:09 -0500, Rob Crittenden wrote:
> I also wonder if I revert a provenpackager change, is that the end of
> it? Who is the arbiter in this case if not?
It would be necessary to understand why there's disagreement about how
to package something. Has there been contact betwe
On 11/18/2015 04:26 AM, Pádraig Brady wrote:
> Is $subject possible?
>
> For example generating subpackages like:
> %{name}-small-but-slow-binaries
> %{name}-fast-but-big-binaries
>
> I can %prep and %install into separate areas,
> though was then wondering how to adjust
> the buildroot for s
Hi everyone,
Fedora infrastructure is trying to reach the FAS user linuxdonald. The email
address
listed in FAS for this user does not correspond to a bugzilla account, while
this user is a packager.
We have been trying to contact him via the hotmail address set in FAS, but
unsuccessfully.
Does
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 12:27:05PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Fedora infrastructure is trying to reach the FAS user linuxdonald. The email
> address
> listed in FAS for this user does not correspond to a bugzilla account, while
> this user is a packager.
> We have been tr
On Čt, 2015-11-19 at 11:06 +0100, Martin Kolman wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 16:39 -0500, David Airlie wrote:
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Brian C. Lane"
> > > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> > > Sent: Thursday, 19 November, 2015 7:05:57 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Dealing wi
On 11/18/2015 06:49 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-11-17 at 17:30 +, Andrew Haley wrote:
>> On 11/02/2015 03:05 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
>>> But, why take the risk exposure, when you could simply not?
>>
>> How else would I edit root-owned files? I don't get it. I mean,
>> I guess I co
On 19 November 2015 at 03:18, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:09:34PM -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
>> To the bug in question: probably we should make it so 'sudo gedit' does
>> work, but I'd still strongly discourage anyone from actually doing so.
>
> Actually, there's a better wa
On 19/11/15 11:11, Florian Festi wrote:
> On 11/18/2015 04:26 AM, Pádraig Brady wrote:
>> Is $subject possible?
>>
>> For example generating subpackages like:
>> %{name}-small-but-slow-binaries
>> %{name}-fast-but-big-binaries
>>
>> I can %prep and %install into separate areas,
>> though was th
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On 11/18/2015 07:00 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 17:19 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>> Adam Williamson (adamw...@fedoraproject.org) said:
You really really want libselinux-python(2) for that as well
- it's needed for an
On Thursday 19 Nov 2015 12:48:50 Andrew Haley wrote:
> On 11/18/2015 06:49 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > Phrased another way: no, it's not *your computer* we're talking about
> > here. The computer in question rightfully belongs to someone else; we
> > are here discussing how to be responsible for
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 09:43:17PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
> > "ZJ" == Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek writes:
>
> ZJ> Sure I'm happy to coordinate. I wrote up the Change page because of
> ZJ> the potential for breakage (as with anything systemd related) and
> ZJ> the need for a mass r
On 11/19/2015 12:57 PM, Simon Farnsworth wrote:
> On Thursday 19 Nov 2015 12:48:50 Andrew Haley wrote:
>> On 11/18/2015 06:49 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
>
>>> Phrased another way: no, it's not *your computer* we're talking about
>>> here. The computer in question rightfully belongs to someone else;
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On 11/19/2015 08:00 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 09:43:17PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III
> wrote:
>>> "ZJ" == Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
>>> writes:
>>
>> ZJ> Sure I'm happy to coordinate. I wrote up the Ch
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 09:16:53AM +, Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 19/11/15 09:11, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> >Am 19.11.2015 um 01:46 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek:
> >>2. What about non-glibc stuff? /usr/share/locale/ is 800MB on my
> >>system. It
> >> would be nice to trim this down too. Afa
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Broken deps for i386
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[IQmol]
IQmol-2.3.0-9.fc24.i686 requires libboost_serialization.so.1.58.0
IQmol-2.3.0-9.fc24.i686 requires libboost_iostreams.so.1.58.0
IQmol-2.3.0
On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 11:06 +0100, Martin Kolman wrote:
> We could have a mechanism that stages the change and notifies the
> maintainer (eq. asks first automatically) and gives him the option to
> apply the change or cancel it & do it properly themselves.
At this point we are overengineering. It'
Am 19.11.2015 um 13:57 schrieb Simon Farnsworth:
Put another way: "sudo emacs /etc/hosts" will break under Wayland
than wayland is currently not useable and ready to replace X11
as user i don't care if the application needs to be fixed or wayland
lacks whatever but given that there are a ba
On 11/19/2015 01:03 PM, Simon Farnsworth wrote:
> "sudo -e /etc/hosts", will ... still work
Hold on, I think I may not be understanding something. If "sudo -e /etc/hosts"
will still work, why won't "sudo emacs /etc/hosts" ?
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On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 09:01:35AM +0100, Petr Spacek wrote:
> On 19.11.2015 08:52, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Jan Kurik wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 05:32:02PM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote:
> = Pro
On Thursday 19 Nov 2015 13:56:32 Andrew Haley wrote:
> On 11/19/2015 01:03 PM, Simon Farnsworth wrote:
> > "sudo -e /etc/hosts", will ... still work
>
> Hold on, I think I may not be understanding something. If "sudo -e
> /etc/hosts" will still work, why won't "sudo emacs /etc/hosts" ?
>
> Andr
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 07:06:29AM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 05:32:02PM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote:
> >> = Proposed System Wide Change: Systemd package split =
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/systemd_package_
Basically this means we can't build any images (rawhide/Fedora23/etc)
because the builder hosts have been moved to Fedora 23. The following BZ
has more info. Please discuss in the bug if you have comments about the
technicals. Please discuss here otherwise.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_b
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> networkd+resolved is about 1MB, and more importantly, they do not
> bring in extra dependencies. We discussed also splitting that out on
> the upstream mailing list, but in the end the gain didn't seem important
> enough.
From a cleanliness standpoint, it still
On 11/19/2015 09:35 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote:
>
> Basically this means we can't build any images (rawhide/Fedora23/etc) because
> the builder hosts have been moved to Fedora 23. The following BZ has more
> info. Please discuss in the bug if you have comments about the technicals.
> Please discuss here
On 11/18/2015 02:49 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
Just as a general note on this thread: if you're a packager and you
have a genuine reason why people should be careful about touching your
package, or follow some specific process when doing so, or there's
something that people might think they shoul
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Do you mean systemd-machine-id-setup (the helper to initialize
> /etc/machine-id)?
I guess so.
Calamares also uses systemd-machine-id-setup, for the same reason.
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On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 03:40:53PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > networkd+resolved is about 1MB, and more importantly, they do not
> > bring in extra dependencies. We discussed also splitting that out on
> > the upstream mailing list, but in the end the gain di
On 11/19/2015 09:41 AM, Cole Robinson wrote:
On 11/19/2015 09:35 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote:
Basically this means we can't build any images (rawhide/Fedora23/etc) because
the builder hosts have been moved to Fedora 23. The following BZ has more
info. Please discuss in the bug if you have comments ab
On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 21:45 +, Ian Malone wrote:
> Not really getting this. For any configuration task where you replace
> editing a root owned text file with access through some authorised
> gui, that gui is still vulnerable.
That gui's code, unlike emacs, doesn't allow you to write arbitrar
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 02:05:46PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 07:06:29AM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote:
> > > Thanks for the heads up, note that systemd-machineid is used by Anaconda
> > > for live installs
On 19 November 2015 at 15:31, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 21:45 +, Ian Malone wrote:
>
>> Not really getting this. For any configuration task where you replace
>> editing a root owned text file with access through some authorised
>> gui, that gui is still vulnerable.
>
> That g
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 01:09:16PM +, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote:
> [copr-keygen]
> copr-keygen-1.60-2.fc23.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:3.4
Fixed.
> [preupgrade-assistant]
> preupgrade-assistant-2.1.1-1.fc24.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:3.4
Fixed.
> [poezio]
> poezio
On 11/19/2015 08:31 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.11.2015 um 13:57 schrieb Simon Farnsworth:
Put another way: "sudo emacs /etc/hosts" will break under Wayland
than wayland is currently not useable and ready to replace X11
as user i don't care if the application needs to be fixed or wayland
Hello,
In the coming hours we will be both upgrading fedora-packages [1] to a new
version (relying on mdapi [2]) and rebuilding its index.
This should take a couple of hours during which fedora-packages will not be
available. It will impact the package name completion in the new update form
of Bo
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> On 11/18/2015 02:49 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>
>> Just as a general note on this thread: if you're a packager and you
>> have a genuine reason why people should be careful about touching your
>> package, or follow some specific process w
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Fedora Rawhide Report <
rawh...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> [nodejs-mime-types]
> nodejs-mime-types-2.1.7-1.fc24.noarch requires npm(mime-db) <
> 0:1.20
>
I've fixed this in Rawhide.
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On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 08:21:10AM +0100, Jan Pokorný wrote:
> There seem to be more places asking for adjustment, e.g.:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers#Get_Sponsored
> with a box currently stating:
> > Review and approval for the first package for new packa
On Qua, 2015-11-18 at 17:11 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
> > > > > > "SB" == Sérgio Basto writes:
>
> SB> When we fix the .spec and don't change the source, we bump
> rightmost
> SB> version, when we change the source, we bump the left version, so
> we
> SB> can distinguish when we update t
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 04:00:41PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> OK - so what's the clear and non-controversial definition of "modules
> like 'file', 'template' and 'copy'"? What do those modules share in
> common that we can define clearly and concisely and in a way there
> won't be any serious
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 05:32:02PM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote:
> * systemd-udev.rpm will consist of systemd-udevd, udevadm, udev rules,
> and the hardware database.
So close! libguestfs needs udevd and /sbin/reboot. Unfortunately the
latter is still part of the main systemd package.
Rich.
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Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) said:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 04:00:41PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > OK - so what's the clear and non-controversial definition of "modules
> > like 'file', 'template' and 'copy'"? What do those modules share in
> > common that we can define clearly and c
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 03:40:53PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>> > networkd+resolved is about 1MB, and more importantly, they do not
>> > bring in extra dependencies. We discussed also split
Missing expected images:
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Im
Hello;
I was copying files from a thumb drive with a Kingston MobileLite and
noticed "usb on mobilelite" in Networks! I must have done Windows
Network -> WORKGROUP -> MOBILELITE. I don't know how but it is there!
Has then always been available? Can we make it a feature?
I haven't tested Do
On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 18:09 -0500, Fedora compose checker wrote:
> Missing expected images:
>
> Cloud disk raw i386
> Cloud_atomic disk raw x86_64
> Workstation live x86_64
> Workstation live i386
> Kde disk raw armhfp
> Cloud disk raw x86_64
>
> Images in this compose but not Rawhide 20151118:
>
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 10:28:25PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 05:32:02PM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote:
> > * systemd-udev.rpm will consist of systemd-udevd, udevadm, udev rules,
> > and the hardware database.
>
> So close! libguestfs needs udevd and /sbin/reboot. Unfort
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 02:51:39PM -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 03:40:53PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >> > networkd+resolved is about 1MB, and more impor
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Dan Horák wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 07:04:30 +
> Peter Robinson wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 3:14 AM, Dave Johansen
> > wrote:
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1256839
> > > I don't have access to PowerPC hardware, so can anyone
According to [1] predictable interface naming can be disabled with a
symlink to /dev/null or by providing net.ifnames=0 on the kernel command
line. It seems like symlinking to /dev/null isn't working any more.
Is symlinking to /dev/null supposed to still work? We are seeing this on
Atomic Clou
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