Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-10-02 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 30.9.2015 v 16:52 Ralf Corsepius napsal(a): > On 09/30/2015 04:25 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 30.09.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Orion Poplawski: >>> On 09/30/2015 07:45 AM, Fabian Deutsch wrote: Yes, I also see this as a good compromise. We then have the ability to at least track b

F-23 Branched report: 20151002 changes

2015-10-02 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Fri Oct 2 07:15:03 UTC 2015 Broken deps for armhfp -- [CableSwig] CableSwig-3.20.0-13.fc23.armv7hl requires gccxml [apache-scout] apache-scout-1.2.6-11.fc21.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.juddi:uddi-ws)

Proposal: retire lesstif in f24 and beyond

2015-10-02 Thread Jon Ciesla
Lesstif being basically dead upstream and motif being available, I think it's probably time to retire lesstif. I've migrated the remaining packages still using it I could find in rawhide: xbae mesa-libGLw ski Inventor grass If anyone knows of other packages using it, please let me know and I ca

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-10-02 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Pá, 2015-10-02 at 13:18 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 30.9.2015 v 16:52 Ralf Corsepius napsal(a): > > > > Like I've said many times before, I feel Fedora needs a serious > > vulnerability in a widespread bundled or static library, such that > > people finally comprehend the harm of bundling. >

Re: Proposal: retire lesstif in f24 and beyond

2015-10-02 Thread Joachim Backes
On 02.10.2015 13:33, Jon Ciesla wrote: Lesstif being basically dead upstream and motif being available, I think it's probably time to retire lesstif. I've migrated the remaining packages still using it I could find in rawhide: xbae mesa-libGLw ski Inventor grass If anyone knows of other packa

Re: Proposal: retire lesstif in f24 and beyond

2015-10-02 Thread Joachim Backes
On 02.10.2015 13:33, Jon Ciesla wrote: Lesstif being basically dead upstream and motif being available, I think it's probably time to retire lesstif. I've migrated the remaining packages still using it I could find in rawhide: xbae mesa-libGLw ski Inventor grass An additional pkg is "grace"

rawhide report: 20151002 changes

2015-10-02 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Oct 2 05:15:03 UTC 2015 Broken deps for i386 -- [CableSwig] CableSwig-3.20.0-13.fc23.i686 requires gccxml [IQmol] IQmol-2.3.0-9.fc24.i686 requires libboost_serialization.so.1.58.0 IQmol-2.3.0-9.f

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-10-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/02/2015 01:18 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 30.9.2015 v 16:52 Ralf Corsepius napsal(a): Like I've said many times before, I feel Fedora needs a serious vulnerability in a widespread bundled or static library, such that people finally comprehend the harm of bundling. This harms Fedora but no

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-10-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/02/2015 01:46 PM, Tomas Mraz wrote: On Pá, 2015-10-02 at 13:18 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 30.9.2015 v 16:52 Ralf Corsepius napsal(a): Like I've said many times before, I feel Fedora needs a serious vulnerability in a widespread bundled or static library, such that people finally compr

Re: Proposal: retire lesstif in f24 and beyond

2015-10-02 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 6:49 AM, Joachim Backes < joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de> wrote: > On 02.10.2015 13:33, Jon Ciesla wrote: > >> Lesstif being basically dead upstream and motif being available, I think >> it's probably time to retire lesstif. I've migrated the remaining >> packages still usin

Re: Proposal: retire lesstif in f24 and beyond

2015-10-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/02/2015 01:33 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: Lesstif being basically dead upstream and motif being available, I think it's probably time to retire lesstif. I've migrated the remaining packages still using it I could find in rawhide: Inventor [Inventor maintainer speaking] Migrating Inventor t

Re: Proposal: retire lesstif in f24 and beyond

2015-10-02 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 6:52 AM, Joachim Backes < joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de> wrote: > On 02.10.2015 13:33, Jon Ciesla wrote: > >> Lesstif being basically dead upstream and motif being available, I think >> it's probably time to retire lesstif. I've migrated the remaining >> packages still usin

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-10-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 02:19:19PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> only for projects where upstream is fully active and cares about the >> security vulnerabilities in the bundled copies of software well. > Correct. That's one of the criteria, FPC is trying to consider when > granting bundling excep

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-10-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 02:11:46PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >This harms Fedora but not the upstream project which bundles. > Exactly. This "bundling everything" is upstream-centric. It's > convenient to them, but it's harmful to wider system integration. Toshio explained one time that Fedora

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-10-02 Thread Tom Hughes
On 02/10/15 15:22, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 02:19:19PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: only for projects where upstream is fully active and cares about the security vulnerabilities in the bundled copies of software well. Correct. That's one of the criteria, FPC is trying to co

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-10-02 Thread Richard Shaw
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > (To be clear, I personally am in favor of also allowing more relaxed > bundling for smaller projects which are on the fringes of the system > integration you discuss. In other words, vastly expanding the "too > small to care" exception.) T

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-10-02 Thread Andreas Tunek
2015-09-26 0:10 GMT+02:00 Thomas Daede : > On 09/25/2015 02:18 PM, Andreas Tunek wrote: > >> Removed librtmp (what could go wrong?), now I get the following error: >> >> Sep 25 23:14:39 iMacLinux dnf[621]: Error: package >> kernel-core-4.1.7-200.fc22.x86_64 requires systemd >= 200, but none of >> t

Fedora 23 Branched 20151002 compose check report

2015-10-02 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. No images in this compose but not 23 Branched 20151001 No images in 23 Branched 20151001 but not this. Failed openQA tests: 10 of 52 ID: 4462Test: i386 kde_live default_install ID: 4461Test: i386 workstation_live default_install ID: 4458Test:

Fedora Rawhide 20151002 compose check report

2015-10-02 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. No images in this compose but not Rawhide 20151001 No images in Rawhide 20151001 but not this. Failed openQA tests: 49 of 52 ID: 4522Test: x86_64 universal server_multi_empty@uefi ID: 4521Test: x86_64 universal server_simple_free_space@uefi ID: 4520

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-10-02 Thread Gerard Ryan
On 10/02/2015 07:11 PM, Andreas Tunek wrote: > 2015-09-26 0:10 GMT+02:00 Thomas Daede : >> On 09/25/2015 02:18 PM, Andreas Tunek wrote: >> >>> Removed librtmp (what could go wrong?), now I get the following error: >>> >>> Sep 25 23:14:39 iMacLinux dnf[621]: Error: package >>> kernel-core-4.1.7-200.

Self Introduction: Stuart Campbell

2015-10-02 Thread Stuart Campbell
Hello, My name is Stuart Campbell, and I've just submitted my first package review request (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1268380). I have been a user of Red Hat / Fedora for quite a while (probably since Red Hat Linux 6 ish times) and have done a fair amount of packaging for variou

Re: Self Introduction: Stuart Campbell

2015-10-02 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 10/02/2015 02:33 PM, Stuart Campbell wrote: > Hello, > > My name is Stuart Campbell, and I've just submitted my first package > review request (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1268380). > > I have been a user of Red Hat / Fedora for quite a while (probably since > Red Hat Linux 6 i

Re: scriplet issues installing deps in f23 mock

2015-10-02 Thread Robin Lee
I met the exact same problem. -robin On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 6:17 AM, Cole Robinson wrote: > I'm hitting scriplet errors when trying to build f23 qemu in mock on an up > to > date f23 host. Example: > > $ mock --root fedora-23-x86_64 --init > ... > $ mock --root fedora-23-x86_64 --rebuild qemu