Re: sorting yum/dnf metadata and metadata diffs

2015-02-13 Thread Daniel Mach
Hi, there's been some work in progress already: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=850896 Proof-of-concept code (to be merged into dnf/createrepo_c in the future): https://github.com/Tojaj/DeltaRepo The idea behind that is simple: * create deltas as small repos on server * download del

Re: sorting yum/dnf metadata and metadata diffs

2015-02-13 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
On 13.02.2015 08:11, Casey Jao wrote: > How feasible would it be to keep the listings in primary.xml and > filelists.xml sorted by package name and arch? Doing so could open the door > to simple and efficient diffs of repository metadata. Something like pdiffs in Debian? > Those two are by far th

Mock, Rawhide and DNF

2015-02-13 Thread Miroslav Suchy
Hi, I just released mock-1.2.7. It have - beside one small bug and new F22 configs - one important change. The rawhide configs have this one line included: config_opts['package_manager'] = 'dnf' which means that Mock will use DNF for building packages for rawhide targets. There are two conse

Re: sorting yum/dnf metadata and metadata diffs

2015-02-13 Thread Tomas Mlcoch
> How feasible would it be to keep the listings in primary.xml and > filelists.xml sorted by package name and arch? Doing so could open the door > to simple and efficient diffs of repository metadata. Createrepo_c [1] keeps packages sorted by filename [2] by default. Sorting based on filenames was

Re: sorting yum/dnf metadata and metadata diffs

2015-02-13 Thread Zdenek Kabelac
Dne 13.2.2015 v 09:21 Marcin Juszkiewicz napsal(a): On 13.02.2015 08:11, Casey Jao wrote: How feasible would it be to keep the listings in primary.xml and filelists.xml sorted by package name and arch? Doing so could open the door to simple and efficient diffs of repository metadata. Something

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 12-02-15 19:32, Stephen Gallagher wrote: (Logistical note: please keep all replies to this thread on devel@lists.fedoraproject.org) tl;dr Shall we consider requiring a lesser package review for packages that are not present on Product or Spin install media? == Premise == So, some time

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/12/2015 07:32 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: (Logistical note: please keep all replies to this thread on devel@lists.fedoraproject.org) tl;dr Shall we consider requiring a lesser package review for packages that are not present on Product or Spin install media? == Premise == So, some time

Re: Mock, Rawhide and DNF

2015-02-13 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 09:35:30AM +0100, Miroslav Suchy wrote: > Hi, > I just released mock-1.2.7. It have - beside one small bug and new F22 > configs - one important change. > > The rawhide configs have this one line included: > config_opts['package_manager'] = 'dnf' > which means that Mock w

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2015-02-12, Paul Howarth wrote: > We generally have requires for most optional functionality in Perl > packages at the moment, to avoid bugs being raised about missing > dependencies when people try to use that optional functionality. > > If there was consensus about use of soft dependencies, t

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Fri Feb 13 2015 at 2:02:27 AM Colin Walters wrote: > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015, at 01:32 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > tl;dr Shall we consider requiring a lesser package review for packages > > that are not present on Product or Spin install media? > > It's worth noting here that having two le

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Petr Spacek
On 13.2.2015 02:11, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 01:32:04PM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> (Logistical note: please keep all replies to this thread on >> devel@lists.fedoraproject.org) >> >> tl;dr Shall we consider requiring a lesser package review for packages >

Re: Mock, Rawhide and DNF

2015-02-13 Thread Christopher Meng
On Friday, February 13, 2015, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 09:35:30AM +0100, Miroslav Suchy wrote: > RHEL/EPEL users do not have DNF available, therefore they are unable to > > build packages for Fedora Rawhide. There is however a workaround. Just > > change this line: > >

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Paul Howarth [12/02/2015 20:05] : > > We generally have requires for most optional functionality in Perl > packages at the moment, to avoid bugs being raised about missing > dependencies when people try to use that optional functionality. Based on past emails, I suspect that Colin wishes nothing

Re: I wrote small script to list FTBFS koji entries

2015-02-13 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 02/12/2015 08:51 PM, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > I plan to make something like Ubuntu has [2] which was great help when I > was working on fixing packages while working for Canonical. With Michael Simacek we are working on Koschei [1,2] - a service for tracking package buildability status. I wo

Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
Dear all, I don't know if this has been discussed before, but I didn't find any. Summary: I have a proposal to make it easier for maintainers to have multiple versions of the same library in distro (by making it *naturally* possible) (and with minimal maintenance overhead), and for users/devel

Re: amending the new package process

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Haley
On 01/24/2015 07:14 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> This is not entirely true. GCC and related projects apply a pretty >> complex peer review process, with defined roles and privileges. (Cf. the >> file MAINTAINERS in GCC's sourcetree for details). >> >> Somewhat over-simplified

Re: Fedora 22 Mass Branching

2015-02-13 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 02/12/2015 10:40 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: >> Is the koji rawhide repo not pointing to the new F23 builds/repo somehow? >> My otf2-1.5.1-1.fc23 build doesn't appear to be showing up. >> >> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=8902498 > > It's pointed to f-23 just fine > http://koj

Re: amending the new package process

2015-02-13 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:55:02AM +, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 01/24/2015 07:14 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> This is not entirely true. GCC and related projects apply a pretty > >> complex peer review process, with defined roles and privileges. (Cf. the > >> file MAINT

Re: I wrote small script to list FTBFS koji entries

2015-02-13 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
On 13.02.2015 12:28, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > On 02/12/2015 08:51 PM, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: >> I plan to make something like Ubuntu has [2] which was great help when I >> was working on fixing packages while working for Canonical. > > With Michael Simacek we are working on Koschei [1,2] - a s

Re: I wrote small script to list FTBFS koji entries

2015-02-13 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 02/13/2015 01:20 PM, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > On 13.02.2015 12:28, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: >> On 02/12/2015 08:51 PM, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: >>> I plan to make something like Ubuntu has [2] which was great help when I >>> was working on fixing packages while working for Canonical. >> >> Wi

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Jamie Duncan
Don't containers already accomplish this same concept? jduncan - Original Message - From: "Hedayat Vatankhah" To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 6:51:17 AM Subject: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same l

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/13/2015 10:56 AM, Petr Spacek wrote: Modified version of Zbyszek's idea with time constraints follows: 1) Accept the new package into Fedora N even with bundled libraries. I am inclined to be Fedora needs to encounter a serious vulnerability originating from bundling, such that you guy

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:49:13 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 20:18 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: > > On 12/02/15 19:32, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > (Logistical note: please keep all replies to this thread on > > > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org) > > > > > > tl;dr Shall we con

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 15:21 +0330, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: > Dear all, > I don't know if this has been discussed before, but I didn't find any. > Summary: I have a proposal to make it easier for maintainers to have > multiple versions of the same library in distro (by making it > *naturally* possi

MongoDB Security & Defaults

2015-02-13 Thread Ryan S. Brown
Hello, After reading this article[1] on how many totally unsecured mongodb installations there are on the internet, I noticed a recent (and worrying) change in the defaults on Fedora's mongodb package. In January, the Fedora rawhide package for mongo[2] was changed to listen on all interfaces by

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:54:59 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Meanwhile, we've had much more critical vulnerablities in widely used > libs (Remember heartbleed), which all have been quite easy to fix > packaging-wise. IMO, to a great portion, thanks to having mostly banned > static linkage and bu

Re: RFC: xserver update strategy in F21+

2015-02-13 Thread drago01
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > Since the modular X repackaging in FC5, we have limited X server updates > such that the ABI does not change. F20 shipped with xserver 1.14.4, for > example, so we might update it to 1.14.7 but not to 1.15.0. With the > reduced driver set in

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Ian Malone
On 13 February 2015 at 13:06, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:49:13 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 20:18 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: >> > On 12/02/15 19:32, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> > > (Logistical note: please keep all replies to this thread on >> > >

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Rex Dieter
Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: > Proposal: let's make it possible to have multiple versions of the same > library installed, as far as their .so version permits that It's already possible (you gave several examples, like Qt) Am I missing something? Or rather, what leads you to believe that it is not

Re: recent/new Plasma5 crashes under investigation

2015-02-13 Thread Rex Dieter
Rex Dieter wrote: > KDE SIG is investigating some recent/serious reported crasher bugs in > rawhide, notably: > > "Could not sync environment to dbus." (startkde) > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1191171 > > and (an older one, but the situation has gotten worse recently): > > Qt5

Re: recent/new Plasma5 crashes under investigation

2015-02-13 Thread Sandro Mani
On 13.02.2015 15:53, Rex Dieter wrote: Rex Dieter wrote: KDE SIG is investigating some recent/serious reported crasher bugs in rawhide, notably: "Could not sync environment to dbus." (startkde) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1191171 and (an older one, but the situation has got

Re: I wrote small script to list FTBFS koji entries

2015-02-13 Thread Jakub Cajka
> As my work usually is around fixing packages which failed to build on > AArch64 I spend lot of time with Koji. > > Today I started writing script which has to list all current FTBFS > entries from selected Koji instance - kind like [1] does but with few > extras: > > - no packages which got bui

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 13:54 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 02/13/2015 10:56 AM, Petr Spacek wrote: > > > Modified version of Zbyszek's idea with time constraints follows: > > > > 1) Accept the new package into Fedora N even with bundled libraries. > > I am inclined to be Fedora needs to enc

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Jan Zelený
On 13. 2. 2015 at 08:03:18, Rex Dieter wrote: > Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: > > Proposal: let's make it possible to have multiple versions of the same > > library installed, as far as their .so version permits that > > It's already possible (you gave several examples, like Qt) > > Am I missing somet

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Rex Dieter
Stephen Gallagher wrote: > (Logistical note: please keep all replies to this thread on > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org) > > tl;dr Shall we consider requiring a lesser package review for packages > that are not present on Product or Spin install media? I would welcome our new ring-based overlords

Re: Koji build failure: noarch vs. arch?

2015-02-13 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:28 AM, gil wrote: > as i wrote in my e-mail titled "jni libraries fails in koji" > i have the same problem > i haven't done any changes in koji client config I tried the csdp build again this morning to see if perhaps the problem is nondeterministic. It failed again: h

Re: I wrote small script to list FTBFS koji entries

2015-02-13 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
On 13.02.2015 13:30, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > On 02/13/2015 01:20 PM, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: >>> With Michael Simacek we are working on Koschei [1,2] - a service for >>> tracking package buildability status. I would like you to consider using >>> Koschei. We can discuss adding missing features

Re: Mock, Rawhide and DNF

2015-02-13 Thread Jan Zelený
On 13. 2. 2015 at 19:10:01, Christopher Meng wrote: > On Friday, February 13, 2015, Pierre-Yves Chibon > > wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 09:35:30AM +0100, Miroslav Suchy wrote: > > > > RHEL/EPEL users do not have DNF available, therefore they are unable to > > > > > build packages for Fedo

How to become a packager (was: Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies)

2015-02-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:00:07 +, Ian Malone wrote: > Actually, a question I have about this is how it will impact people > trying to become maintainers. When I last checked (it may have > changed) the only way to do that was to create a new package. That isn't the only way to become a packager

Re: Koji build failure: noarch vs. arch?

2015-02-13 Thread Mamoru TASAKA
Jerry James wrote on 02/14/2015 12:23 AM: On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:28 AM, gil wrote: as i wrote in my e-mail titled "jni libraries fails in koji" i have the same problem i haven't done any changes in koji client config I tried the csdp build again this morning to see if perhaps the problem i

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/13/2015 04:13 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 13:54 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 02/13/2015 10:56 AM, Petr Spacek wrote: Meanwhile, we've had much more critical vulnerablities in widely used libs (Remember heartbleed), which all have been quite easy to fix packa

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 04:43:53PM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >words, I think it might be reasonable to have bundling in the outer > >rings be a blacklist rather than a whitelist, so long as we can always > >find out with a simple repoquery what contains a package. > To me, this idea is not hel

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/13/2015 04:51 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 04:43:53PM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: words, I think it might be reasonable to have bundling in the outer rings be a blacklist rather than a whitelist, so long as we can always find out with a simple repoquery what contains

Re: Fedora 22 Mass Branching

2015-02-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 12:55:23 +0100 Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > On 02/12/2015 10:40 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> Is the koji rawhide repo not pointing to the new F23 builds/repo > >> somehow? My otf2-1.5.1-1.fc23 build doesn't appear to be showing > >> up. > >> > >> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/k

Re: MongoDB Security & Defaults

2015-02-13 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
"Ryan S. Brown" writes: > [...] In January, the Fedora rawhide package for mongo[2] was > changed to listen on all interfaces by default [...] To help > protect users, I think the default should be changed back to > localhost only. [...] We have a slew of network-servers in the fedora distribu

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
/*Jan Zelený */ wrote on Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:15:08 +0100: On 13. 2. 2015 at 08:03:18, Rex Dieter wrote: Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: Proposal: let's make it possible to have multiple versions of the same library installed, as far as their .so version permits that It's already possible (you gave

Re: How to become a packager (was: Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies)

2015-02-13 Thread Ian Malone
On 13 February 2015 at 15:35, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:00:07 +, Ian Malone wrote: > >> Actually, a question I have about this is how it will impact people >> trying to become maintainers. When I last checked (it may have >> changed) the only way to do that was to create

Re: MongoDB Security & Defaults

2015-02-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.02.2015 um 17:25 schrieb Frank Ch. Eigler: "Ryan S. Brown" writes: [...] In January, the Fedora rawhide package for mongo[2] was changed to listen on all interfaces by default [...] To help protect users, I think the default should be changed back to localhost only. [...] We have a

Cython-0.22-1.fc22 not tagged as an update candidate

2015-02-13 Thread Neal Becker
Build was OK, but bodhi is giving an error: bodhi -n -r F22 -t enhancement -N 'see: https://github.com/cython/cython/blob/master/CHANGES.rst ' Cython-0.22-1.fc22 Creating a new update for Cython-0.22-1.fc22 Cython-0.22-1.fc22 not tagged as an update candidate http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji

Re: Cython-0.22-1.fc22 not tagged as an update candidate

2015-02-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 11:53:09 -0500 Neal Becker wrote: > Build was OK, but bodhi is giving an error: > > bodhi -n -r F22 -t enhancement -N 'see: > https://github.com/cython/cython/blob/master/CHANGES.rst ' > Cython-0.22-1.fc22 Creating a new update for Cython-0.22-1.fc22 > Cython-0.22-1.fc22 not

Re: How to become a packager (was: Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies)

2015-02-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Ian Malone wrote: > Thanks. I think when I'd looked at it I'd discounted the review and > comment on others' submissions process as it would seem to require you > to have a better idea of what you're doing than the person submitting > the package, and potentia

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Rex Dieter
Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: > It is possible, but it'll need package reviews for each new version. Yes, it is a new package so a new review will be required (for either the old-compat or the new-parallel-installable version). this requirement for an additional review is likely non-negotiable. >

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Rex Dieter
Rex Dieter wrote: > Sure, additional documentation is always welcome. Are you willing to help > write some? My apologies, re-reading the whole thread, including the initial post, I see you did have a specific proposal... to which I responded separately to a couple of points (but otherwise, a g

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Rex Dieter
Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: > 2. No reviews are required for new libfooX packages (as it is not > required right now when you update your libfoo package I disagree with this point, reviews are important, arguably *more* important in special cases like parallel-installable libraries. > For -devel p

Re: RFC: xserver update strategy in F21+

2015-02-13 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 14:36 +0100, drago01 wrote: > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > > Since the modular X repackaging in FC5, we have limited X server updates > > such that the ABI does not change. F20 shipped with xserver 1.14.4, for > > example, so we might update it to 1

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
/*Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos */ wrote on Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:11:49 +0100: On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 15:21 +0330, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: Dear all, I don't know if this has been discussed before, but I didn't find any. Summary: I have a proposal to make it easier for maintainers to have multiple vers

Re: Koji build failure: noarch vs. arch?

2015-02-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 00:45:50 +0900 Mamoru TASAKA wrote: > Note that this fails on "buildSRPMFromSCM", i.e. when creating srpm, > and not on "buildArch" (armv7hl, i686, x86_64), where rpmbuild the > newly created srpm is executed. > > So when using mock, usually srpm is already there on your loca

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
/*Rex Dieter*/ wrote on Fri, 13 Feb 2015 11:15:58 -0600: Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: 2. No reviews are required for new libfooX packages (as it is not required right now when you update your libfoo package I disagree with this point, reviews are important, arguably *more* important in special ca

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 13:32:04 -0500 Stephen Gallagher wrote: > (Logistical note: please keep all replies to this thread on > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org) > > tl;dr Shall we consider requiring a lesser package review for packages > that are not present on Product or Spin install media? IMHO, no

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 15:21:17 +0330 Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: > Dear all, > I don't know if this has been discussed before, but I didn't find any. ...snip... > Proposal: let's make it possible to have multiple versions of the > same library installed, as far as their .so version permits that. >

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread William Cohen
On 02/13/2015 12:15 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: > >> 2. No reviews are required for new libfooX packages (as it is not >> required right now when you update your libfoo package > > I disagree with this point, reviews are important, arguably *more* important > in special case

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Florian Weimer
On 02/12/2015 07:32 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Second, I will call attention to the fact that different Fedora > users have very different needs from the software. For example, > those running Fedora Server and Fedora Cloud are likely far more > concerned with Fedora as a *deployment* platform

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Florian Weimer
On 02/13/2015 04:13 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > I'd like to point out something that I think you missed in my > initial email. I'm not saying that anything should be allowed to > bundle software transparently. The primary problem we faced back in > '99 was that *we didn't know what was bundling

Re: another dnf kernel issue?

2015-02-13 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 04:01 -0500, Radek Holy wrote: > TBH, I don't know whether we should extend the forms of package > specifications to support your case. The current behaviour seems to be > safer to me. I mean, if we improve it, user wouldn't be able to query > just package names as easily as

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
/*Kevin Fenzi*/ wrote on Fri, 13 Feb 2015 11:36:47 -0700: On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 15:21:17 +0330 Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: <...> But the thing is, it's really difficult to get right details about the new package. Forget to change a name somewhere or a provides or obsoletes. People mess this up all

Mass Fortran rebuilds due to new GCC?

2015-02-13 Thread Susi Lehtola
Hi, as has happened many times before, the GCC bump in rawhide has broken all Fortran packages, desperately needing a mass rebuild. Unfortunately, rpm is blissfully unaware of any breakage happening (BZ #1192617) so maintainers won't even know when this breakage happens. Before I start rebu

Re: Mass Fortran rebuilds due to new GCC?

2015-02-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 12:47:07 -0800 Susi Lehtola wrote: > Hi, > > > as has happened many times before, the GCC bump in rawhide has broken > all Fortran packages, desperately needing a mass rebuild. Can you expand on the breakage? Is it that they no longer rebuild? Or that they no longer run?

Re: Mass Fortran rebuilds due to new GCC?

2015-02-13 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 01:53:12PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 12:47:07 -0800 > Susi Lehtola wrote: > > as has happened many times before, the GCC bump in rawhide has broken > > all Fortran packages, desperately needing a mass rebuild. > > Can you expand on the breakage? Is i

Re: Mass Fortran rebuilds due to new GCC?

2015-02-13 Thread Björn Esser
Am Freitag, den 13.02.2015, 13:53 -0700 schrieb Kevin Fenzi: > On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 12:47:07 -0800 > Susi Lehtola wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > as has happened many times before, the GCC bump in rawhide has broken > > all Fortran packages, desperately needing a mass rebuild. > > Can you expand

Re: recent/new Plasma5 crashes under investigation

2015-02-13 Thread Sandro Mani
On 13.02.2015 16:04, Sandro Mani wrote: On 13.02.2015 15:53, Rex Dieter wrote: Rex Dieter wrote: KDE SIG is investigating some recent/serious reported crasher bugs in rawhide, notably: "Could not sync environment to dbus." (startkde) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1191171 and (

Re: Mass Fortran rebuilds due to new GCC?

2015-02-13 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
I need FORTRAN for R and R packages - if it's not 100% for the R ecosystme I'd consider any bugs to be at least blockers for beta, if not alpha. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Björn Esser wrote: > Am Freitag, den 13.02.2015, 13:53 -0700 schrieb Kevin Fenzi: >> On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 12:47:07 -080

Re: How to become a packager (was: Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies)

2015-02-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:40:25 +, Ian Malone wrote: > >-> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_get_sponsored_into_the_packager_group > > > > Submitting a new package is just _one_ of multiple ways to find a sponsor, > > since it is an opportunity to demonstrate that you know packaging.

Re: recent/new Plasma5 crashes under investigation

2015-02-13 Thread Sandro Mani
On 13.02.2015 22:21, Sandro Mani wrote: On 13.02.2015 16:04, Sandro Mani wrote: On 13.02.2015 15:53, Rex Dieter wrote: Rex Dieter wrote: KDE SIG is investigating some recent/serious reported crasher bugs in rawhide, notably: "Could not sync environment to dbus." (startkde) https://bugzilla

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 13 February 2015 at 09:05, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 02/13/2015 04:51 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 04:43:53PM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> >>> words, I think it might be reasonable to have bundling in the outer rings be a blacklist rather than a whitelist, so

Re: MongoDB Security & Defaults

2015-02-13 Thread Ryan S. Brown
On 02/13/2015 11:25 AM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > "Ryan S. Brown" writes: > >> [...] In January, the Fedora rawhide package for mongo[2] was >> changed to listen on all interfaces by default [...] To help >> protect users, I think the default should be changed back to >> localhost only. [...] >

Re: Koji build failure: noarch vs. arch?

2015-02-13 Thread gil
a fix for this problem is: (see http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/java-service-wrapper.git/tree/java-service-wrapper.spec ) # rpmbuild < 4.6 support %if ! 0%{?__isa_bits} %ifarch x86_64 ia64 ppc64 sparc64 s390x alpha ppc64le aarch64 %global __isa_bits 64 %else %global __isa_bits 32 %endif %end

[Test-Announce] 2015-02-16 @ 1700 UTC ** Fedora Blocker Review Meeting

2015-02-13 Thread Mike Ruckman
# F22 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2015-02-16 # Time: 1700 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net It's Blocker Review time again! While we don't yet have an Alpha TC to test, testing against rawhide has continued. The results have yielded a couple proposed blockers: 3 Alpha a

Re: Mass Fortran rebuilds due to new GCC?

2015-02-13 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 02/13/2015 01:57 PM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 01:53:12PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 12:47:07 -0800 >> Susi Lehtola wrote: >>> as has happened many times before, the GCC bump in rawhide has broken >>> all Fortran packages, desperately needing a mass r

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:49:13 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> Ultimately, it's about one thing: Help get more software into Fedora >> without scaring people away. > > What is the background for this? Who has been scared away? Here's one

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:45:23 -0700, Ken Dreyer wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:49:13 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> Ultimately, it's about one thing: Help get more software into Fedora > >> without scaring people away. > > > > What is the background for this? Who has been scared away? > >

Re: Advice on naming a new library package - libunicode or courier-unicode?

2015-02-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Schwendt wrote: > Naming the package "libunicode" could be safer with regard to avoiding a > clash with another future project with the same name. But if following the > guidelines, I would name it courier-unicode. IMHO, the potential for conflicts and confusion with other projects is act

Re: Mock, Rawhide and DNF

2015-02-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > Could it be an idea to check if /usr/bin/dnf exists (or if dnf can be > found in $PATH) before calling dnf and if not a) warn the user and b) > switch back to yum? > > This would make mock run out of the box for RHEL/EPEL users as well. IMHO, it is the job of the EPEL

Re: Proposal to (formally/easily) allowing multiple versions of the same library installable

2015-02-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.02.2015 um 21:42 schrieb Hedayat Vatankhah: I'm not sure if things will be (much) worse than the current situation. Maintainers already do maintain multiple versions of the same library, and also the upgrade path from a Fedora release to the next should work. My assumption was that the eff

taskotron dep failure false positive

2015-02-13 Thread Orion Poplawski
I got a complaint about this: not ok - depcheck for Bodhi update vtk-6.1.0-23.fc21# FAIL --- arch: x86_64 details: output: |- Build vtk-6.1.0-23.fc21 failed depcheck package vtk-qt-python-6.1.0-23.fc21.i686 requires vtk(x86-32) = 6.1.0-23.fc21, but none of the providers

Re: rawhide report: 20150210 changes

2015-02-13 Thread Jens Petersen
: > [alex] > alex-3.1.3-1.fc22.i686 requires > ghc(unix-2.7.0.1-b0d741fe9ce9a85eada7f5178fc621fa) > alex-3.1.3-1.fc22.i686 requires > ghc(time-1.4.2-c7bfcef03445b2ec67d3d5b04c386722) > alex-3.1.3-1.fc22.i686 requires > ghc(template-haskell-2.9.0.0-57f65c241f99343438be3dddb73913

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/13/2015 08:14 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: On 02/12/2015 07:32 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: Second, I will call attention to the fact that different Fedora users have very different needs from the software. For example, those running Fedora Server and Fedora Cloud are likely far more concerne

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Alec Leamas
On 14/02/15 01:45, Ken Dreyer wrote: Here's the new policy that I would vote for: 1) We allow bundled libraries, and each bundled library MUST have a virtual Provides: bundled(foo) in the RPM spec. (The packager SHOULD provide a version number too, with the admission that it is sometime

Re: [Proposal] Ring-based Packaging Policies

2015-02-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/13/2015 08:20 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: I have some people express the notation that they can always switch to the system library version in case a security vulnerability comes out, but I doubt that this works in practice (because then there wouldn't be a reason for bundling). It sometim

Re: Advice on naming a new library package - libunicode or courier-unicode?

2015-02-13 Thread Christopher Meng
I don't think libunicode is a good name, actually it's too common and should be avoided. You should also ask upstream about the potential file conflicts. -- Yours sincerely, Christopher Meng http://cicku.me -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/m

Re: MongoDB Security & Defaults

2015-02-13 Thread drago01
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Ryan S. Brown wrote: > On 02/13/2015 11:25 AM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: >> "Ryan S. Brown" writes: >> >>> [...] In January, the Fedora rawhide package for mongo[2] was >>> changed to listen on all interfaces by default [...] To help >>> protect users, I think th