Re: No more deltarpms by default

Am 20.10.2014 um 04:02 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 5:26 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 19.10.2014 um 06:37 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: #!/usr/bin/bash basearch=`uname -i` releasever=`rpm -q --qf "%{version}\n" fedo

Re: No more deltarpms by default

Hi, > 3) People who have a lot of hosts and high bandwidth, high speed > local deployment requirements can, and do, set up an internal Fedora > mirror with much lower bandwidth costs. Maybe mirrormanager can give a hint in case it directs yum/dnf to a onsite mirror? cheers, Gerd -- deve

Re: Request new package

2014-10-19 15:57 GMT+02:00 Haïkel : > Since you're involved upstream, are you committed to subscribe/fix > bugs that are reported ? collaborate with a packager ? Sure I can report bugs. Actually it's the thing I do the most in this project: testing and bug reporting. I'm not a developer so I'm not

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Fr, 2014-10-17 at 11:49 +, Andre Robatino wrote: > Roberto Ragusa robertoragusa.it> writes: > > > Are compressed rpms completely impossible to diff efficiently by rsync? > > In a word, yes. They're already compressed, so it's unlikely there would be > any matching blocks between old and n

Re: No more deltarpms by default

Am 20.10.2014 um 12:31 schrieb Gerd Hoffmann: On Fr, 2014-10-17 at 11:49 +, Andre Robatino wrote: Roberto Ragusa robertoragusa.it> writes: Are compressed rpms completely impossible to diff efficiently by rsync? In a word, yes. They're already compressed, so it's unlikely there would be

F-21 Branched report: 20141020 changes

Compose started at Mon Oct 20 07:15:02 UTC 2014 Broken deps for armhfp -- [PyQuante] PyQuante-libint-1.6.4-11.fc21.1.armv7hl requires libint(armv7hl-32) = 0:1.1.6-2.fc21 [audtty] audtty-0.1.12-9.fc20.armv7hl requires libaudcli

rawhide report: 20141020 changes

Compose started at Mon Oct 20 05:15:02 UTC 2014 Broken deps for i386 -- [3Depict] 3Depict-0.0.16-3.fc22.i686 requires libmgl.so.7.2.0 [Agda] ghc-Agda-2.3.2.2-5.fc22.i686 requires libHSterminfo-0.3.2.5-ghc7.6.3.so ghc-Ag

Re: Self Introduction: Piotr Popieluch

Hello, Piotr. On Saturday, 18 October 2014 at 00:40, Piotr Popieluch wrote: > My name is Piotr Popieluch and live in the Hague in the Netherlands. I > work as a Unix sysadmin with focus on monitoring. I manage rhel boxes > professionally and use Fedora on my laptop. Because of this I want to > giv

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:52:00 -0400 > Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > >> It's a rough figure, from >> http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/20/Everything/x86_64/os/repodata/ >> (a useful local mirror). Since the number of packages there changes

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 20.10.2014 um 04:02 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: >> >> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 5:26 AM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Am 19.10.2014 um 06:37 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Reindl Harald

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 20.10.2014 um 12:31 schrieb Gerd Hoffmann: >> >> On Fr, 2014-10-17 at 11:49 +, Andre Robatino wrote: >>> >>> Roberto Ragusa robertoragusa.it> writes: >>> Are compressed rpms completely impossible to diff efficiently by rsync? >

Re: No more deltarpms by default

Am 20.10.2014 um 13:57 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 20.10.2014 um 04:02 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 5:26 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 19.10.2014 um 06:37 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

On Sun, 2014-10-19 at 23:34 -0700, James Patterson wrote: > I am in the wheel group, and if I type: > > nethogs > > then I can install nethogs without any additional authorization. This is > on a freshly booted machine where sudo has not been run. > > Should this be marked as a blocker? > https:

Re: Request new package

On a side note, I played around building a package and noticed that only a sysvinit file is provided. Upstream should develop a systemd service file. I started working on a minimal one but haven't tested it yet. [Unit] Description=Sheepdog distributed storage system [Service] ExecStart=/usr/sbin/

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014, at 06:02 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Sun, 2014-10-19 at 23:34 -0700, James Patterson wrote: > > I am in the wheel group, and if I type: > > > > nethogs > > > > then I can install nethogs without any additional authorization. This is > > on a freshly booted machine wher

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

On Mon, 2014-10-20 at 06:21 -0700, James Patterson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014, at 06:02 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > On Sun, 2014-10-19 at 23:34 -0700, James Patterson wrote: > > > I am in the wheel group, and if I type: > > > > > > nethogs > > > > > > then I can install nethogs without an

[POC-change] Fedora packages point of contact updates

Change in package status over the last 168 hours 8 packages were orphaned cqrlog [f21, master, epel7] was orphaned by sparks An amateur radio contact logging program https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/cq

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 06:21:54 -0700, James Patterson wrote: I'd like consistent behavior please. Typing yum install requires a password, so should be the behaviour for running a command that doesn't exist causing a package to be installed. I believe when this was discussed, the consensus

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

I don't agree with it, but link to the FESCo discussion: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1115 (BTW can someone delete the spam from that ticket?) Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rw

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 06:21:54AM -0700, James Patterson wrote: > I'd like consistent behavior please. When possible, that is ideal. But yum doesn't have a built-in privilege escalation mechanism to do this. > Typing yum install requires a password, so should be the behaviour for > running a com

Re: LLVM 3.5 rebase

On Fri, 2014-10-17 at 19:16 +0200, Sergio Pascual wrote: > 2014-10-17 16:00 GMT+02:00 Peter Robinson : > So I'm OK with retiring python-llvmpy if a patch doesn't appear soon. I would be too, but I'm going to want 3.5 in F21, and we have this whole thing about not retiring packages in a live relea

Re: LLVM 3.5 rebase

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Fri, 2014-10-17 at 19:16 +0200, Sergio Pascual wrote: >> 2014-10-17 16:00 GMT+02:00 Peter Robinson : > >> So I'm OK with retiring python-llvmpy if a patch doesn't appear soon. > > I would be too, but I'm going to want 3.5 in F21, and we hav

Re: LLVM 3.5 rebase

On 10/20/2014 04:19 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Fri, 2014-10-17 at 19:16 +0200, Sergio Pascual wrote: >> 2014-10-17 16:00 GMT+02:00 Peter Robinson : > >> So I'm OK with retiring python-llvmpy if a patch doesn't appear soon. > > I would be too, but I'm going to want 3.5 in F21, and we have this w

Re: LLVM 3.5 rebase

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:19:16AM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Fri, 2014-10-17 at 19:16 +0200, Sergio Pascual wrote: > > 2014-10-17 16:00 GMT+02:00 Peter Robinson : > > > So I'm OK with retiring python-llvmpy if a patch doesn't appear soon. > > I would be too, but I'm going to want 3.5 in F21

Re: vmpk 0.6.0 license changed to 'GPLv3+'

Good On 10/19/2014 09:45 PM, Robin Lee wrote: > vmpk 0.6.0 license changed from 'GPLv3+ and (LGPLv2 with exception or > GPLv3)' to 'GPLv3+'. > > Cheers > -robin > > -- Pouar -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

On 20 October 2014 07:45, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 06:21:54AM -0700, James Patterson wrote: > > I'd like consistent behavior please. > > When possible, that is ideal. But yum doesn't have a built-in privilege > escalation mechanism to do this. > > > Typing yum install requi

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

When creating an account, I am pretty sure there is a toggle box of whether the account is for an administrator or not. I suspect toggling that has the effect that some on this thread desire. For a normal single user system, I am glad that such a toggle exists and gives me some power that is much

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:10:48AM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > So if I mistype 'rm' as rn or rb will lrzsz or rn be installed so that it > does the wrong thing next time? Or is this only some commands? And beyond If I remember right, it only installs anything if you say yes to that prompt

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:10:48 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > So if I mistype 'rm' as rn or rb will lrzsz or rn be installed so that it > does the wrong thing next time? Or is this only some commands? And beyond > removing someone from the wheel group what is the way to turn this off? Is this

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

Am 20.10.2014 um 18:10 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen: On 20 October 2014 07:45, Matthew Miller mailto:mat...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 06:21:54AM -0700, James Patterson wrote: > I'd like consistent behavior please. When possible, that is ideal. But yum doesn

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 20.10.2014 um 18:10 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen: >> >> On 20 October 2014 07:45, Matthew Miller > > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 06:21:54AM -0700, James Patterson wrote: >> > I'd like con

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

Am 20.10.2014 um 19:25 schrieb drago01: On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 20.10.2014 um 18:10 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen: On 20 October 2014 07:45, Matthew Miller mailto:mat...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 06:21:54AM -0700, James Patterso

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:25 AM, drago01 wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 20.10.2014 um 18:10 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen: >>> >>> On 20 October 2014 07:45, Matthew Miller >> > wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 06:

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

On 20 October 2014 18:00, Reindl Harald wrote: > uninstall anything in context of packagekit and just use yum Please stop giving advice like this. If you try to remove PackageKit you'll end up removing half of GNOME and probably make your system unbootable. Richard. -- devel mailing list devel@

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

Am 20.10.2014 um 20:03 schrieb Richard Hughes: On 20 October 2014 18:00, Reindl Harald wrote: uninstall anything in context of packagekit and just use yum Please stop giving advice like this. If you try to remove PackageKit you'll end up removing half of GNOME maybe a reason to re-consider

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 20 October 2014 18:00, Reindl Harald wrote: >> uninstall anything in context of packagekit and just use yum > > Please stop giving advice like this. If you try to remove PackageKit > you'll end up removing half of GNOME and probably make

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

On 20 October 2014 19:12, Josh Boyer wrote: > That's PackageKit-libs you're referring to. Right, the original quote was "uninstall anything in context of packagekit" > If you remove PackageKit > itself only the yum backend and gnome-packagekit packages are brought > along with it. ...and gnome-

Re: man-db without cache update (no cron or systemd *.timer)

On Wed, 15.10.14 16:10, Jan Chaloupka (jchal...@redhat.com) wrote: > Hi, > > there has been a discussion about if we need cache for man-db for users > which use man pages or update system only from time to time and thus > don't need to update cache every day. man-db as it is now depends on > syst

Re: man-db without cache update (no cron or systemd *.timer)

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 08:56:19PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > But again, I am not sure I understand what is going on here. Is > systemd now optional in Fedora? I guess to some degree everything is "optional" in one way or another. It's certainly the init system we are using. I think the co

Re: man-db without cache update (no cron or systemd *.timer)

On Mon, 20.10.14 15:08, Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 08:56:19PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > But again, I am not sure I understand what is going on here. Is > > systemd now optional in Fedora? > > I guess to some degree everything is "optional

Re: civil discussion on fedora lists

On 10/18/2014 07:14 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 18.10.2014 um 09:10 schrieb Miroslav Suchy: On 10/17/2014 08:31 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: You can say something like "I'm not sure I understand the point you are making. Particularly, I don't see how __ follows. Can you explain that in

Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-10-21)

WG meeting will be at 13:00 UTC (14:00 London, 15:00 Brno, 9:00 Boston, 22:00 Tokyo) in #fedora-meeting on Freenode. = Topics = * Follow-up -- Docker docs * Integration tests for packages * Per-component integration tests in Fedora * Picking chairman for the next meeting * OpenFloor -- devel mail

Re: comps multimedia group: switch to gstreamer1 default?

Kalev Lember wrote: > On 10/19/2014 05:10 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: >> I see comps' "multimedia" group still defaults to installing >> gstreamer-0.10 >> plugins (with gstreamer1 conditional). Any comments about switching this >> the other way around? >> >> Possible comps-f22.xml.in patch attached. >

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 20 October 2014 19:12, Josh Boyer wrote: >> That's PackageKit-libs you're referring to. > > Right, the original quote was "uninstall anything in context of packagekit" > >> If you remove PackageKit >> itself only the yum backend and gno

Re: LLVM 3.5 rebase

> > i can take a look at llvmpy this week, but i'd recommend just retiring > it otherwise. it can come back if it has to. I was going to retire it before, but upstream had a patch, Its jsut a wrapper aruond the API, it probably needs to be developed in sync with llvm, and so far I haven't seen

Re: civil discussion on fedora lists

On Sat, 2014-10-18 at 22:51 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > people not taking every single word personal in a technical dicussion > would help everyone because the noise/information ratio would be much > more appropriate FWIW, it takes me literally 3-4x as long to read your emails as anyone else'

Fedora 21 Beta blocker bug status report

Greetings, Fedora-folk! It's time for the first blocker status report for F21. Actually, past time - sorry I haven't sent one of these before, things have been moving too fast and there's been too much else to take care of. The Go/No-Go meeting for Fedora 21 Beta is scheduled for Thursday, which m

Re: fedora 21 lets me install packages without root

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 20 October 2014 18:00, Reindl Harald wrote: > > uninstall anything in context of packagekit and just use yum > > Please stop giving advice like this. If you try to remove PackageKit > you'll end up removing half of GNOME and probably ma

Re: Request new package

2014-10-20 15:04 GMT+02:00 Richard Shaw : > On a side note, I played around building a package and noticed that only a > sysvinit file is provided. Upstream should develop a systemd service file. Hi Richard, thank you very much for this note that I reported in the developer mailing list. I'll writ