the tragedy of Fedora Live USB conversion and what we can do about it

2014-07-31 Thread Kamil Paral
It's a well-known fact in our circles that third-party USB conversion tools (like UNetbootin or Universal USB Installer) can't create Fedora Live USB correctly. Unfortunately, it is not well known among our users (I see it very often on test list, IRC, or local fedora.cz website/forums) and even

F-21 Branched report: 20140731 changes

2014-07-31 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Thu Jul 31 07:15:02 UTC 2014 Broken deps for armhfp -- [APLpy] APLpy-0.9.8-5.fc21.noarch requires pywcs [PyKDE] PyKDE-3.16.6-14.fc20.armv7hl requires sip-api(10) >= 0:10.0 [audtty] audtty-0.1.12-9.fc

Add Gparted into Live's

2014-07-31 Thread Álvaro Castillo
Dear Fedora Team, I pray to God. Could Fedora live have CD/DVD/USB Gparted by default? Could add Gparted please? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

rubygem-syntax license revised from 'Public Domain' to 'BSD'

2014-07-31 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dear all, I have updated rubygem-syntax from version 1.0.0 to version 1.2.0. The gem used to be accompanied by email discussion, which claimed the license to be 'Public Domain'. However, the library was picked up by different upstream and now it ships under BSD license. Regards, Vít -- de

Re: The GNU C Library will be rebased in F21 to match glibc 2.20.

2014-07-31 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > > The problem with that approach is that lots of bugs go unnoticed until > very late in rawhide, resulting in those bugs being caught and fixed > only post-release. ABI. That is, any ABI breakages that happen > are usually bugs.

Re: The GNU C Library will be rebased in F21 to match glibc 2.20.

2014-07-31 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 03:16:30PM -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> > * Rawhide tracks glibc master. >> > * Fedora release is branched from Rawhide. >> > * glibc release is made upstream. >> > * Fedora branch is rebased on glibc upstream rele

Re: The GNU C Library will be rebased in F21 to match glibc 2.20.

2014-07-31 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 09:03:45AM -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > > > > > The problem with that approach is that lots of bugs go unnoticed until > > very late in rawhide, resulting in those bugs being caught and fixed > > on

Re: packages seeking new owner

2014-07-31 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 09:01:48AM +0200, Gregor Tätzner wrote: > unison240 -- Multi-master File synchronization tool ( master f21 f20 f19 ) I tried to take this one, but the new pkgdb UI is incredibly non-intuitive and it seemed to fail. Can you orphan the package, and I will try again. Rich.

Re: packages seeking new owner

2014-07-31 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 03:10:20PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 09:01:48AM +0200, Gregor Tätzner wrote: > > unison240 -- Multi-master File synchronization tool ( master f21 f20 f19 ) > > I tried to take this one, but the new pkgdb UI is incredibly > non-intuitive and

Re: Add Gparted into Live's

2014-07-31 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Thu, 2014-07-31 at 12:43 +0100, Álvaro Castillo wrote: > Dear Fedora Team, > > I pray to God. Could Fedora live have CD/DVD/USB Gparted by default? > > Could add Gparted please? I think the desktop/workstation live includes the "disks" utility which has most if not all functionality that gpar

Re: Add Gparted into Live's

2014-07-31 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > On Thu, 2014-07-31 at 12:43 +0100, Álvaro Castillo wrote: >> Dear Fedora Team, >> >> I pray to God. Could Fedora live have CD/DVD/USB Gparted by default? >> >> Could add Gparted please? > > I think the desktop/workstation live includes the "dis

Re: Add Gparted into Live's

2014-07-31 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 07/31/2014 09:40 AM, drago01 wrote: Well "yum install gparted" works just fine on the live media ... live media are not as static as people think. There's also the option of just building your own media. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mai

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-07-31 16:00 UTC)

2014-07-31 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at -MM-DD 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2014-07-31 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2014-07-31 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2014-07-31 1

Re: The GNU C Library will be rebased in F21 to match glibc 2.20.

2014-07-31 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 02:13:44PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > The fact that a core library that's stability is critical to the > distribution as a whole doesn't bother to adhere to this and while > having gone through the hoops of putting in a feature change basically > then proceeded to comple

Re: The GNU C Library will be rebased in F21 to match glibc 2.20.

2014-07-31 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 03:06:00PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > However the previous problem(s -- multiple) was glibc using > non-Rawhide for integration testing, especially just while we were > trying to stablise Fedora for a release: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011

Re: the tragedy of Fedora Live USB conversion and what we can do about it

2014-07-31 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 05:04:16AM -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: > Some ideas: > 1. First and foremost, we should obviously consider whether we can make some > compose changes that would make the image more compatible with third-party > USB installers. That's very technical, but I hope relevant peop

Re: the tragedy of Fedora Live USB conversion and what we can do about it

2014-07-31 Thread Naheem Zaffar
Longer term, would turning this "stateless" via new systemd features be helpful?. On 31 July 2014 18:13, Brian C. Lane wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 05:04:16AM -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: > >> Some ideas: >> 1. First and foremost, we should obviously consider whether we can make some >> compose

Re: Review swaps

2014-07-31 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 8:46 PM, nonamedotc wrote: > I have taken these two. I hope to do a first pass tomorrow. Thank you! Let me know if there is something I can review for you (now or later). -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https:/

Re: The GNU C Library will be rebased in F21 to match glibc 2.20.

2014-07-31 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 09:03:45AM -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Yes. My concern is that glibc is using Rawhide as their continuous > integration sandbox to shake out bugs as opposed to doing it elsewhere and > just taking care of integration of releases when they are ready. If this > viewed as

Re: The GNU C Library will be rebased in F21 to match glibc 2.20.

2014-07-31 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 03:06:00PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> However the previous problem(s -- multiple) was glibc using >> non-Rawhide for integration testing, especially just while we were >> trying to stablise Fedora for a

Re: The GNU C Library will be rebased in F21 to match glibc 2.20.

2014-07-31 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 01:41:25PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Siddhesh Poyarekar > > There is however one change that the s/390 > > folks will find painful - s/390 broke ABI in 2.19 without a proper > > justification and that is now going to be reverted in 2.20 (an

Re: The GNU C Library will be rebased in F21 to match glibc 2.20.

2014-07-31 Thread Dan Horák
On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 19:19:49 +0100 "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 01:41:25PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Siddhesh Poyarekar > > > There is however one change that the s/390 > > > folks will find painful - s/390 broke ABI in 2.19 without a

Re: The GNU C Library will be rebased in F21 to match glibc 2.20.

2014-07-31 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 23:05:21 +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: the latest commit. I've been doing regular rebases for a while now (almost a year AFAICT) and IIRC we have had just one serious problem last week where i686 boxes got bricked. In the end it was found to be a gcc bug that misco

Re: Add Gparted into Live's

2014-07-31 Thread Christopher Meng
On Jul 31, 2014 7:44 PM, "Álvaro Castillo" wrote: > > Dear Fedora Team, > > I pray to God. Could Fedora live have CD/DVD/USB Gparted by default? > > Could add Gparted please? You should provide us a reasonable explanation as the essential precondition for the request. -- devel mailing list devel

Re: Add Gparted into Live's

2014-07-31 Thread Corey Sheldon
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