Re: [ACTION REQUIRED][FINAL NOTICE] Retiring packages for Fedora 21 v4

2014-07-02 Thread Christopher Meng
kannel failed to BFS because texlive does have a bug (dependency) problem: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=995752 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-07-02 Thread Karel Zak
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 02:59:20PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > 2) The fedora-release-$PRODUCT package (and possibly %post or systemd > snippets therein) will be responsible for the creation and maintenance > of /etc/issue, /etc/os-release and /etc/fedora-release-product (note: > there is no $

Re: free seats in Env and Stacks WG - volunteers wanted

2014-07-02 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 07/01/2014 11:31 AM, Marcela Maslanova wrote: Env and Stacks Working Group has noble plan to make development in Fedora easier and also work with new technologies, which are not in Fedora yet. The whole statement can be found here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Env_and_Stacks/Product_Require

Re: Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-07-01)

2014-07-02 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 06/30/2014 06:51 PM, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: On odd weeks WG meeting will be at 15:00 UTC, 17:00 Central Europe, 11:00 (noon) Boston, 8:00 San Francisco, 0:00 Tokyo in #fedora-meeting on Freenode. = Topics = * free seats in Env WG * Taskotron and rpmgrill * OpenFloor Meeting cancelled for

Re: Tasklist for the Fedora Workstation

2014-07-02 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 06/25/2014 06:55 PM, Christian Schaller wrote: Hi everyone, As we are ramping up the development effort around the workstation we wanted to help increase transparency and enable more community participation in the Fedora Workstation effort by providing a more detailed view of the various tas

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED][FINAL NOTICE] Retiring packages for Fedora 21 v4

2014-07-02 Thread Christopher Meng
I'd like to take these 3: bitbakeixs guile-lib laxathom rats smilner, rmonk -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraprojec

Re: Koschei - continuous rebuilds for packages

2014-07-02 Thread jpac...@redhat.com
Hi Petr, > The rebuilds run in koji. You cannot get scratch build into koji build > root. You would need separate koji build target tag for that. I understood that Koschei does it anyway (to be able to rebuild the dependency subtree). Either way, it doesn't sound problematic to create temporary t

Re: Heads-up on rpm 4.12 coming to rawhide soon

2014-07-02 Thread Igor Gnatenko
Where I can read more about weak dependencies? -- -Igor Gnatenko On Jun 27, 2014 7:38 PM, "Panu Matilainen" wrote: > > Hi all, > > Rpm 4.12 alpha just got released: http://lists.rpm.org/ > pipermail/rpm-announce/2014-June/45.html > > The plan is to update rawhide to this shiny new version fir

Handling package conflicts caused by arch specific doc files

2014-07-02 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hi, I was wondering if there's a standard way of solving package conflicts that arise from arch specific doc files. An example is here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=565676 The conflict is because the docs are generated during the build, and the files, even though they are installe

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-07-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 10:38:15AM +0200, Karel Zak wrote: > Note that agetty(8) allows to keep /etc/issue distribution > independent and it reads all necessary information from > /etc/os-release to generate the final pre-login message. All you need > is to create /etc/issue with \S sequences,

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-07-02 Thread Miloslav Trmač
- Original Message - > On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 10:38:15AM +0200, Karel Zak wrote: > > It would be really really nice have only *one* file (/etc/os-release) > > that contains operating system identification data. The mess like > > /etc/fedora-release and /etc/redhat-release should be depr

Re: Koschei - continuous rebuilds for packages

2014-07-02 Thread Michael Simacek
- Original Message - > From: jpac...@redhat.com > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 5:41:45 PM > Subject: Re: Koschei - continuous rebuilds for packages > > Hi Michael, > > it sounds like a way how one could automatically handle library so-bumps > in rawhid

Re: Heads-up on rpm 4.12 coming to rawhide soon

2014-07-02 Thread Florian Festi
On 07/02/2014 03:05 PM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > Where I can read more about weak dependencies? Have a look at my announcement I made in February: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-February/195743.html Be aware that rpm-4.12 only implements the weak dependencies. Having support

Re: Koschei - continuous rebuilds for packages

2014-07-02 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2014-07-02, jpac...@redhat.com wrote: >> The rebuilds run in koji. You cannot get scratch build into koji build >> root. You would need separate koji build target tag for that. > > I understood that Koschei does it anyway (to be able to rebuild the > dependency subtree). Speculation: Or it doe

Re: delta rpms - can we turn them off

2014-07-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Doesn't the current process assume that xz always produces the same output? What would happen if a newer version of xz/lzma comes out which (for example) produces better compressed output while still remaining compatible with the file format and older decompression tools? Rich. -- Richard Jones

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-07-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 03:44:26PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 06/30/2014 03:39 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mon, 30.06.14 14:59, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) > > wrote: > > > >> 2) The fedora-release-$PRODUCT package

Re: delta rpms - can we turn them off

2014-07-02 Thread Jonathan Dieter
This has already happened once before a few years back. IIRC, we updated xz on the builder to match the one in Fedora, but our users had broken deltarpms until they got the updated xz. Jonathan On 07/02/2014 07:46 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Doesn't the current process assume that xz alway

Re: Handling package conflicts caused by arch specific doc files

2014-07-02 Thread Kalev Lember
On 07/02/2014 03:15 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > I was wondering if there's a standard way of solving package conflicts > that arise from arch specific doc files. An example is here: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=565676 > > The conflict is because the docs are generated during the b

Re: delta rpms - can we turn them off

2014-07-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.07.2014 16:46, schrieb Richard W.M. Jones: > Doesn't the current process assume that xz always > produces the same output? hopefully not > What would happen if a newer version of xz/lzma comes out which (for > example) produces better compressed output while still remaining > compatible

Re: delta rpms - can we turn them off

2014-07-02 Thread John Reiser
> Doesn't the current process assume that xz always produces the same > output? Yes, the deltarpm process depends on xz giving the same output when run by the consumer of the .drpm as when run by the producer. If not, then deltarpm gives a warning and ignores the .drpm -- the entire new .rpm must

Re: libgcrypt soname bump in rawhide

2014-07-02 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/2014 02:37 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 28 February 2014 15:38, Tomas Mraz wrote: >> This should not break builds of any reasonably current software. > > libgcrypt.so.11()(64bit) is needed by (installed) > google-chrome-stable-33.0.1750.1

Re: libgcrypt soname bump in rawhide

2014-07-02 Thread Kalev Lember
On 07/02/2014 05:13 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > This is not an official solution, but I am now providing a COPR for > Rawhide installs that provides a compatibility library for libgcrypt. That's awesome, but can we get this in rawhide proper instead? I'd be happy to help get this through the re

Re: libgcrypt soname bump in rawhide

2014-07-02 Thread Christopher Meng
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: > On 07/02/2014 05:13 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> This is not an official solution, but I am now providing a COPR for >> Rawhide installs that provides a compatibility library for libgcrypt. > > That's awesome, but can we get this in rawhide

Re: libgcrypt soname bump in rawhide

2014-07-02 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/2014 11:19 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: > On 07/02/2014 05:13 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> This is not an official solution, but I am now providing a COPR >> for Rawhide installs that provides a compatibility library for >> libgcrypt. > > That'

Re: libgcrypt soname bump in rawhide

2014-07-02 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/2014 11:22 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 07/02/2014 11:19 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: >> On 07/02/2014 05:13 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >>> This is not an official solution, but I am now providing a >>> COPR for Rawhide installs that provide

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED][FINAL NOTICE] Retiring packages for Fedora 21 v4

2014-07-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 07:55:42PM +0200, Till Maas wrote: > > The following packages are orphaned or did not build for two > releases and will be retired when Fedora (F21) is branched, unless someone > adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please > do > so now wit

Re: libgcrypt soname bump in rawhide

2014-07-02 Thread Kalev Lember
On 07/02/2014 05:24 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/02/2014 11:22 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> On 07/02/2014 11:19 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: >>> On 07/02/2014 05:13 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: This is not an official solution, but I a

Re: libgcrypt soname bump in rawhide

2014-07-02 Thread Christopher Meng
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: > Anyone here interested in maintaining a libgcrypt compat package for F21 > lifetime? I'd be happy to help sort out packaging and get this through > the review process. Have you got any response from Google actually? -- devel mailing list dev

Re: libgcrypt soname bump in rawhide

2014-07-02 Thread Kalev Lember
On 07/02/2014 06:11 PM, Christopher Meng wrote: > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: >> Anyone here interested in maintaining a libgcrypt compat package for F21 >> lifetime? I'd be happy to help sort out packaging and get this through >> the review process. > > Have you got any

Re: libgcrypt soname bump in rawhide

2014-07-02 Thread Christopher Meng
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:22 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: > You must be confusing me with someone else. I am not a libgcrypt > maintainer and haven't talked to Google about this. No. It's a burden for downstream to ship such a compat- package for chrome only, and chrome is not a part of Fedora. http

Re: libgcrypt soname bump in rawhide

2014-07-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 12:35:26AM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > It's a burden for downstream to ship such a compat- package for chrome > only, and chrome is not a part of Fedora. Maintaining software in general is a burden, but we do it for the benefit of our users anyway. The best case scen

Re: libgcrypt soname bump in rawhide

2014-07-02 Thread Christopher Meng
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 12:35:26AM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > >> It's a burden for downstream to ship such a compat- package for chrome >> only, and chrome is not a part of Fedora. > > Maintaining software in general is a burden, but w

Fedora ARM Status Meeting 2014-07-02

2014-07-02 Thread Paul Whalen
Please join us today (Wednesday, July 2nd) at 4PM EDT (8PM UTC) for the Fedora ARM status meeting in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode. On the agenda so far.. 1) Kernel Status Update 2) F21 Alpha Status a) Deliverables (Installation methods) b) Open ARM bugs

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-07-02 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 09:47:26AM -0400, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > - Original Message - > > On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 10:38:15AM +0200, Karel Zak wrote: > > > It would be really really nice have only *one* file (/etc/os-release) > > > that contains operating system identification data. The m

Re: libgcrypt soname bump in rawhide

2014-07-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 01:20:26AM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > Maintaining software in general is a burden, but we do it for the > > benefit of our users anyway. The best case scenario would certainly be > > for Google to update their

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-07-03 16:00 UTC)

2014-07-02 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2014-07-03 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2014-07-03 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2014-07-03 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2014-07-03 1

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-07-02)

2014-07-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2014-07-02) === Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:27 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-07-02/fesco.2014-07-02-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary

Re: libgcrypt soname bump in rawhide

2014-07-02 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 06:03:33PM +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: > On 07/02/2014 05:24 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 07/02/2014 11:22 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> On 07/02/2014 11:19 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: > >>> On 07/02/2014 05:13

I'll take tinyca2 (was Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for Fedora 21 v3)

2014-07-02 Thread Peter Hanecak
Hello, I would like to take over tinyca2. I do not see anywhere on the list why the maintainers left it. So I'll check the procedures and also other sources and take it. According to Koji[1], some F21 build was successful last month so hopefully there wont be many difficulties. Sincerely Peter

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for Fedora 21 v3

2014-07-02 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 12:38:10AM +0200, Sergio Pascual wrote: > I thought I had retired correctly pywcs, but is not in the list. Did I miss > some step? The list contains only packages I am going to retire unless they are taken care of. So if you retired a package, it is expected that the packag

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED][FINAL NOTICE] Retiring packages for Fedora 21 v4

2014-07-02 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 06:49:23PM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > I'd like to take these 3: > > bitbakeixs > guile-lib laxathom > rats smilner, rmonk changed. Regards Till -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.or

Re: Realted to "Fedora Release Engineering" is this OK?!!

2014-07-02 Thread Till Maas
On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 11:02:11PM +0200, مصعب الزعبي wrote: > This commit add number after %{?dist} .. is this OK !! > > http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/gnulib.git/commit/?id=c2f0d77aba7a2b745886654c42c943f6a9c1a4b7 > > See full package name > > http://fr2.rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/fedora/dev

Re: I'll take tinyca2 (was Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for Fedora 21 v3)

2014-07-02 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Peter Hanecak wrote: I would like to take over tinyca2. I do not see anywhere on the list why the maintainers left it. So I'll check the procedures and also other sources and take it. According to Koji[1], some F21 build was successful last month so hopefully there wont be

Re: I'll take tinyca2

2014-07-02 Thread Peter Hanecak
Hello, OK, than we found a bug, because: a) Till Maas proclaimed it as orphaned in mail "[ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for Fedora 21 v3" b) it was mentioned as "orphaned" also in https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/tinyca2/ (but IIRC only for "devel" branch - maybe that's "the bu

Fedora ARM Status Meeting Minutes - 2014-07-02

2014-07-02 Thread Paul Whalen
Thanks to those that were able to join us for the status meeting today, for those unable the minutes are posted below: #fedora-meeting-1: Fedora ARM status meeting Meeting summary --- * 1) Ke

Fedora ARM Status Meeting - Moving to Biweekly!

2014-07-02 Thread Paul Whalen
As discussed in the status meeting today, we will be moving to a biweekly meeting in preparation for F21 Alpha. Our next meeting will be held on July 16th, 2014 at 4PM EDT (8PM UTC). Please send anything you would like discussed to the ARM mailing list. Regards, Paul -- devel mailing list

Re: I'll take tinyca2

2014-07-02 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 10:18:52PM +0200, Peter Hanecak wrote: > b) it was mentioned as "orphaned" also in > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/tinyca2/ (but IIRC only > for "devel" branch - maybe that's "the bug") According to fedmsg, Paul never became owner of tinyca2 for the master

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-07-02 Thread William
> First of all, I'd like to formally propose that each of the products > will have a fedora-release-$PRODUCT (and corresponding > generic-release-$PRODUCT) package. This package will meet several > needs (with magical hand-waving in this initial email). How will this work with fedup from 20 to 21

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED][FINAL NOTICE] Retiring packages for Fedora 21 v4

2014-07-02 Thread Robin Lee
I would like to take this one: espresso-aborphan, chitlesh FAS ID: cheeselee -robin On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:48 AM, Till Maas wrote: > On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 06:49:23PM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > > I'd like to take these 3: > > > > bitbakeixs

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-07-02 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 07/02/2014 06:55 PM, William wrote: First of all, I'd like to formally propose that each of the products will have a fedora-release-$PRODUCT (and corresponding generic-release-$PRODUCT) package. This package will meet several needs (with magical hand-waving in this initial email). How will

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-07-02 Thread William
On Wed, 2014-07-02 at 20:40 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 07/02/2014 06:55 PM, William wrote: > > > >> First of all, I'd like to formally propose that each of the products > >> will have a fedora-release-$PRODUCT (and corresponding > >> generic-release-$PRODUCT) package. This package will meet sev