Re: Unresponsive maintainer: kanarip

2014-06-30 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 27.6.2014 18:37, Christopher Meng napsal(a): On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 12:34 AM, Juan Orti Alcaine wrote: El Sábado, 28 de junio de 2014 00:31:26 Christopher Meng escribió: Thank you. It's better to nofity him about his archaic email address IMO, as he uses his working address in the %change

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: kanarip

2014-06-30 Thread Christopher Meng
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Actually, bouncing his email address is one think, but it would be nice if > Kanarip can take care about his packages. Looking at Koji [1], it is more > then one year since he did his last build of any package. He has not touched > any of his R

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: kanarip

2014-06-30 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 30.6.2014 10:23, Christopher Meng napsal(a): On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Actually, bouncing his email address is one think, but it would be nice if Kanarip can take care about his packages. Looking at Koji [1], it is more then one year since he did his last build of

Re: Bugzilla column width - only 80+1 characters!?

2014-06-30 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 28.6.2014 05:16, poma napsal(a): On 27.06.2014 19:03, DJ Delorie wrote: Welcome to the 21st century! Do we have different eyes and brains than we did last century? Because otherwise, excessively wide paragraphs are just as hard to read now as they were then. E.g. for me, 'bz.rh-cols90

DNS over SSL - Is dnssec-trigger supposed to work in F20?

2014-06-30 Thread quickbooks office
From here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-12-11_Network_Manager_and_DNSSEC it says to do: sudo yum install dnssec-trigger sudo systemctl enable dnssec-triggerd.service sudo systemctl enable unbound.service sudo reboot Then to get DNS over SSL it says https://fedoraproject.org/w

rawhide report: 20140630 changes

2014-06-30 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Broken deps for i386 -- [APLpy] APLpy-0.9.8-5.fc21.noarch requires pywcs [IQmol] IQmol-2.2.0-9.fc21.i686 requires libQGLViewer.so.2.3.9 [PyKDE] PyKDE-3.16.6-14.fc20.i686 requires sip-api(10) >= 0:10.0 [PyQuante]

Cc: on dead packages

2014-06-30 Thread Bastien Nocera
Hey, Apparently, people can still file bugs for dead packages: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1114180 And I (and many others) get CC:ed on those bugs files, with no possibility to remove ourselves from the CC: in pkgdb. Any idea where I should be filing a bug for this bug? Cheers -

Re: Cc: on dead packages

2014-06-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.06.2014 11:55, schrieb Bastien Nocera: > Apparently, people can still file bugs for dead packages: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1114180 xorg-x11-server is a dead package? seriously? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.

Re: Cc: on dead packages

2014-06-30 Thread Florian Weimer
On 06/30/2014 11:57 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 30.06.2014 11:55, schrieb Bastien Nocera: Apparently, people can still file bugs for dead packages: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1114180 xorg-x11-server is a dead package? seriously? Look here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_

Re: Cc: on dead packages

2014-06-30 Thread David Tardon
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:57:49AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 30.06.2014 11:55, schrieb Bastien Nocera: > > Apparently, people can still file bugs for dead packages: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1114180 > > xorg-x11-server is a dead package? > seriously? If you chec

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-30 Thread Vikram Goyal
After going through the thread, a revelation, a deep understanding occured. There is always a confusion regarding Linux, why does it not get popular even when being the best (Am Beston;) OS in the whole Universe. , it was not renamed even once since the nineties even when the hole f^%(*g thing was

Re: Bugzilla column width - only 80+1 characters!?

2014-06-30 Thread David Howells
DJ Delorie wrote: > > Welcome to the 21st century! > > Do we have different eyes and brains than we did last century? > Because otherwise, excessively wide paragraphs are just as hard to > read now as they were then. But we do have wide logfile excerpts that are much easier to read if they don'

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla -> trivial patch policy?

2014-06-30 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 06/27/2014 09:39 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > On 2014-06-27 07:09, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: >> On 06/26/2014 08:01 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: >>> As a newcomer to Fedora development, is there something else I should >>> doing to get these patches reviewed and committed? >> >> I offered you on I

Re: Bugzilla column width - only 80+1 characters!?

2014-06-30 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:21:43AM +0100, David Howells wrote: > DJ Delorie wrote: > > > > Welcome to the 21st century! > > > > Do we have different eyes and brains than we did last century? > > Because otherwise, excessively wide paragraphs are just as hard to > > read now as they were then. >

Attention: rpm 4.12-alpha build bug

2014-06-30 Thread Panu Matilainen
Executive summary: a bug in package generation of rpm 4.12, presumably related to hardlinked files has been spotted. I've untagged 4.12 while we're investigating, some packages might need a rebuild because of this. If you haven't built packages for rawhide today, you can probably stop reading.

Re: Heads-up on rpm 4.12 coming to rawhide soon

2014-06-30 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 27.6.2014 17:38, Panu Matilainen napsal(a): Hi all, Rpm 4.12 alpha just got released: http://lists.rpm.org/pipermail/rpm-announce/2014-June/45.html The plan is to update rawhide to this shiny new version first thing on Monday morning and babysit as needed (ie the usual drill), but i

Re: Mule Orphaned Package

2014-06-30 Thread Andy Grimm
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 1:54 AM, Christopher Meng wrote: > How many patches needed for the latest mule? > > Are these[1] merged already? I'm not sure how many of those will be needed. Several of them were for building the old version of mule against newer dependencies (like spring 3.1), and newe

Re: Attention: rpm 4.12-alpha build bug

2014-06-30 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 06/30/2014 02:04 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: Executive summary: a bug in package generation of rpm 4.12, presumably related to hardlinked files has been spotted. I've untagged 4.12 while we're investigating, some packages might need a rebuild because of this. If you haven't built packages for

Re: Heads-up on rpm 4.12 coming to rawhide soon

2014-06-30 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 06/30/2014 03:12 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 27.6.2014 17:38, Panu Matilainen napsal(a): Hi all, Rpm 4.12 alpha just got released: http://lists.rpm.org/pipermail/rpm-announce/2014-June/45.html The plan is to update rawhide to this shiny new version first thing on Monday morning and baby

Re: Heads-up on rpm 4.12 coming to rawhide soon

2014-06-30 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 30.6.2014 14:48, Panu Matilainen napsal(a): On 06/30/2014 03:12 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 27.6.2014 17:38, Panu Matilainen napsal(a): Hi all, Rpm 4.12 alpha just got released: http://lists.rpm.org/pipermail/rpm-announce/2014-June/45.html The plan is to update rawhide to this shiny n

Re: Heads-up on rpm 4.12 coming to rawhide soon

2014-06-30 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 06/30/2014 03:48 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 06/30/2014 03:12 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Interesting, it breaks Ruby build it seems: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=7090194 Not sure about the reason, though. Seems the ruby macros are not expanding properly throughout the

Re: Heads-up on rpm 4.12 coming to rawhide soon

2014-06-30 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 30.6.2014 15:14, Panu Matilainen napsal(a): On 06/30/2014 03:48 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 06/30/2014 03:12 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Interesting, it breaks Ruby build it seems: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=7090194 Not sure about the reason, though. Seems the ruby

[POC-change] Fedora packages point of contact updates

2014-06-30 Thread nobody
Change in package status over the last 168 hours 14 packages were orphaned - SOAPpy [f19, master, f20, el5] was orphaned by pingou Full-featured SOAP library for Python https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-30 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 10:16:41AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 13.06.2014 10:15, schrieb Richard Hughes: > > On 12 June 2014 16:54, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> DNF is a fork of YUM and pretends to be compatible > >> and if it finally replaces YUM it's just a new > >> generation of YUM > > >

Re: Self Introduction: David Nichols

2014-06-30 Thread Lubomir Rintel
On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 07:59 +0200, David Nichols wrote: > Hello, > > My name is David Nichols, and I'm the author of the Qore programming language. > > I've recently made a package submission request to Fedora for Qore, which is > under review here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla -> trivial patch policy?

2014-06-30 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 06:02:09PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > The intention of all this is to keep the amount of patches in Fedora low and > to "pay it back to upstreams" iff possible. > > However, in many (most?) cases this is not possible or feasible. It is always possible to add a comment

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla -> trivial patch policy?

2014-06-30 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 05:55:41PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > As in many cases before, I once more have to disagree with you, because this Please refrain from personal attacks and note the Fedora code of conduct: https://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Thank you Till -- devel mailing lis

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla -> trivial patch policy?

2014-06-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.06.2014 18:37, schrieb Till Maas: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 05:55:41PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> As in many cases before, I once more have to disagree with you, because this > > Please refrain from personal attacks and note the Fedora code of > conduct: > https://fedoraproject.org/

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla -> trivial patch policy?

2014-06-30 Thread Lubomir Rintel
On Thu, 2014-06-26 at 17:50 +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: > Hi, > > From time to time, I see trivial patches posted in bugzilla which end > up sitting there because the maintainer is too busy / gets bombarded > with tons of bugzilla mails and misses that particular one / whatever > reason. As a pa

Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-07-01)

2014-06-30 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On odd weeks WG meeting will be at 15:00 UTC, 17:00 Central Europe, 11:00 (noon) Boston, 8:00 San Francisco, 0:00 Tokyo in #fedora-meeting on Freenode. = Topics = * free seats in Env WG * Taskotron and rpmgrill * OpenFloor -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedora

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla -> trivial patch policy?

2014-06-30 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Till Maas wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 05:55:41PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> As in many cases before, I once more have to disagree with you, because this > > Please refrain from personal attacks and note the Fedora code of > conduct: > https://fedorapro

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla -> trivial patch policy?

2014-06-30 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 12:54:42PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Till Maas wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 05:55:41PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > >> As in many cases before, I once more have to disagree with you, because > >> this > > > > Please refrain fr

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla -> trivial patch policy?

2014-06-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.06.2014 19:06, schrieb Till Maas: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 12:54:42PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Till Maas wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 05:55:41PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >>> As in many cases before, I once more have to disagree with you,

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla -> trivial patch policy?

2014-06-30 Thread Sandro Mani
Since the discussion seems to have pretty much died down and the reaction favourable, at least to the point that there is agreement that such situations are problematic, I've submitted FESCo ticket with the proposal [1]. Thanks for all inputs so far, and happy to hear further suggestions. San

Re: Patches for trivial bugs sitting in bugzilla -> trivial patch policy?

2014-06-30 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 07:12:06PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 30.06.2014 19:06, schrieb Till Maas: > > If he just writes that he disagrees with me, I agree with you. But > > highlighting that he disagreed with me many times in the past is > > personal and has no relevance to whether or no

fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-06-30 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 We're getting down to the wire on Fedora 21 and we need to nail down a few of the low-level release requirements. First of all, I'd like to formally propose that each of the products will have a fedora-release-$PRODUCT (and corresponding generic-relea

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-06-30 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > We're getting down to the wire on Fedora 21 and we need to nail down a > few of the low-level release requirements. > > First of all, I'd like to formally propose that each of the produc

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-06-30 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/30/2014 03:08 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Stephen Gallagher > wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> We're getting down to the wire on Fedora 21 and we need to nail >> down a few of the low-le

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-06-30 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 06/30/2014 03:08 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Stephen Gallagher >> wrote: >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> We're getting down to

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-06-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 30.06.14 14:59, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) wrote: > 2) The fedora-release-$PRODUCT package (and possibly %post or systemd > snippets therein) will be responsible for the creation and maintenance > of /etc/issue, /etc/os-release and /etc/fedora-release-product (note: > there is

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-06-30 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/30/2014 03:38 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Stephen Gallagher > wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 06/30/2014 03:08 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Stephen Gall

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-06-30 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/30/2014 03:39 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 30.06.14 14:59, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) > wrote: > >> 2) The fedora-release-$PRODUCT package (and possibly %post or >> systemd snippets therein) will be responsible for the cr

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-06-30 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2014-06-30 at 14:59 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Additionally, I am working on a proposal[1] for per-product configs in I think you can go with something very close to this design _if_ you always have a product. This would mean that even a minimal Fedora install would need a system-

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-06-30 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/30/2014 03:54 PM, James Antill wrote: > On Mon, 2014-06-30 at 14:59 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> Additionally, I am working on a proposal[1] for per-product >> configs in > > I think you can go with something very close to this design _

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-06-30 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2014-06-30 at 15:42 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 06/30/2014 03:38 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Stephen Gallagher > > wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> On 06/30/2014 03:08 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > >>> On Mon, Jun 30, 20

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-06-30 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 03:44:26PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Any chance that systemd wants to build a hostnamectl-like interface > for setting the os-release values? That would make life a lot easier > on us, as we could reconfigure that file if-and-when a > fedora-release-$PRODUCT package

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-06-30 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/30/2014 04:10 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 03:44:26PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> Any chance that systemd wants to build a hostnamectl-like >> interface for setting the os-release values? That would make

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-06-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 30.06.14 16:16, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 06/30/2014 04:10 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 03:44:26PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> Any chance that systemd wants to buil

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-06-30 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/30/2014 04:22 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 30.06.14 16:16, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) > wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 06/30/2014 04:10 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >>> On Mo

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-06-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 30.06.14 16:43, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> Well, ideally we'd like the majority of the file to be owned by > >> fedora-release and then just add the one or two additional > >> fields specific to the products programmatically. > >> > >> I suppose though that we co

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-06-30 Thread Stephen Gallagher
> On Jun 30, 2014, at 5:15 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mon, 30.06.14 16:43, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) wrote: > Well, ideally we'd like the majority of the file to be owned by fedora-release and then just add the one or two additional fields specific to th

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-06-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 30.06.14 17:31, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > > On Jun 30, 2014, at 5:15 PM, Lennart Poettering > > wrote: > > > > On Mon, 30.06.14 16:43, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > Well, ideally we'd like the majority of the file to be owned by

Re: Cc: on dead packages

2014-06-30 Thread Bill Nottingham
Bastien Nocera (bnoc...@redhat.com) said: > Apparently, people can still file bugs for dead packages: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1114180 > > And I (and many others) get CC:ed on those bugs files, with > no possibility to remove ourselves from the CC: in pkgdb. > > Any idea whe