Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.04.2014 07:52, schrieb Liam: > On Apr 22, 2014 5:09 AM, "Christian Schaller" wrote: >> I think this is a misunderstanding of who a developer might be and why they >> choose >> a system. Those of my friends and acquaintances, who are developers and who >> over the >> years have decided to

Re: The Forgotten "F": A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

2014-04-23 Thread Christian Schaller
Hi Mairin, Not sure exactly where you are coming from in terms of wanting legal to weigh in, but in general I don't think legals opinion is very relevant and this point. The first step here should always be us as a project deciding what user experience we want to offer our users, then once that i

Re: The Forgotten "F": A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

2014-04-23 Thread Alec Leamas
On 4/22/14, Przemek Klosowski wrote: [cut] >> >> Everything in our repos is free, so putting the choice in the >> installer seems off to me. Our policy (which is complex and obviously >> driven by things stronger than the UX) generally leaves it to users >> post-install to add encumbered software.

Re: The Forgotten "F": A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

2014-04-23 Thread drago01
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Alec Leamas wrote: > There are some aspects on this: > - I don't think Fedora is able add non-free, patent-encumbered sw in > e. g., in the way Ubuntu does - it fails on the fact that US law is > applicable [...] This has been repeated multiple times recently bu

Re: The Forgotten "F": A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

2014-04-23 Thread Alec Leamas
On 4/23/14, drago01 wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Alec Leamas wrote: >> There are some aspects on this: >> - I don't think Fedora is able add non-free, patent-encumbered sw in >> e. g., in the way Ubuntu does - it fails on the fact that US law is >> applicable [...] > > This has bee

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-23 Thread Thomas Woerner
On 04/22/2014 09:17 PM, Russell Doty wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-22 at 15:04 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-22 at 14:41 -0400, Russell Doty wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-22 at 14:23 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-22 at 13:22 -0400, Russell Doty wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-22 at 19:01 +0200

Re: java-1.8.0-openjdk i686 and x86_64 rpms

2014-04-23 Thread Severin Gehwolf
Hi, On Tue, 2014-04-22 at 15:54 -0700, Arun SAG wrote: > Hi, > > I see openjdk-1.8.0 got built and pushed as an update for fedora 19 > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=505651 . > > > In the past the i686 rpms of openjdk were pushed into release x86_64 > repo of fedora 19 >

Re: java-1.8.0-openjdk i686 and x86_64 rpms

2014-04-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:51:21 +0200, Severin Gehwolf wrote: > I can only guess, but i386 updates being pushed to a x86_64 repo sounds > like a bug to me. No, it's a pretty normal thing the mash multilib compose strategy does. http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/mash.git/tree/ -- devel mailing lis

Re: java-1.8.0-openjdk i686 and x86_64 rpms

2014-04-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 15:54:51 -0700, Arun SAG wrote: > Hi, > > I see openjdk-1.8.0 got built and pushed as an update for fedora 19 > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=505651 . > > > In the past the i686 rpms of openjdk were pushed into release x86_64 > repo of fedora 19 > (h

Re: java-1.8.0-openjdk i686 and x86_64 rpms

2014-04-23 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 04/23/2014 12:07 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:51:21 +0200, Severin Gehwolf wrote: > >> I can only guess, but i386 updates being pushed to a x86_64 repo sounds >> like a bug to me. > > No, it's a pretty normal thing the mash multilib compose strategy does. > http://pkgs

Re: java-1.8.0-openjdk i686 and x86_64 rpms

2014-04-23 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 04/23/2014 12:54 AM, Arun SAG wrote: > Hi, > > I see openjdk-1.8.0 got built and pushed as an update for fedora 19 > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=505651 . > > > In the past the i686 rpms of openjdk were pushed into release x86_64 > repo of fedora 19 > (http://mirrors

Re: java-1.8.0-openjdk i686 and x86_64 rpms

2014-04-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 12:13:29 +0200, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > On 04/23/2014 12:07 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:51:21 +0200, Severin Gehwolf wrote: > > > >> I can only guess, but i386 updates being pushed to a x86_64 repo sounds > >> like a bug to me. > > > > No, it's a

[perl-libwww-perl] The patch submitted as CPAN RT #94959

2014-04-23 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 686b7e2fa94276123d9b5a11b0ae452c6144d15c Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Apr 23 13:01:02 2014 +0200 The patch submitted as CPAN RT #94959 perl-libwww-perl.spec |4 ++-- 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-libwww-perl.spec b/perl-libwww-perl.spec

Re: java-1.8.0-openjdk i686 and x86_64 rpms

2014-04-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 12:20:20 +0200, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > On 04/23/2014 12:54 AM, Arun SAG wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I see openjdk-1.8.0 got built and pushed as an update for fedora 19 > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=505651 . > > > > > > In the past the i686 rpms of

dnf-0.5.0

2014-04-23 Thread Ales Kozumplik
Hi, the 0.5.0 is out today, Rawhide only for the moment. See also: dnf.baseurl.org/2014/04/23/dnf-0-5-0-released/ http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/release_notes.html#id31 Cheers, Ales -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-23 Thread Jan Staněk
Dne 16.4.2014 15:44, Petr Pisar napsal(a): > On 2014-04-11, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> = Proposed System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BerkeleyDB_6 > [...] >> The BerkeleyDB, used between others by rpm [1], changed license between >> versions 5.* and 6.* to

Deliverables and release engineering changes for Fedora.Next

2014-04-23 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Hi! As it seems, Fedora.Next and product planning leads also to changes how Fedora is produced and how it's going to be distributed to our users. For this, we need to collect product deliverables, so needed changes for release engineering can be planned (and implemented) and as I was talking to De

[Bug 1084093] perl-CPAN-Inject-1.14-4.fc21 FTBFS in non-koji mock

2014-04-23 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1084093 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added External Bug ID||CPAN 94963 -- You are receiving this ma

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-23 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 11:37 +0200, Thomas Woerner wrote: > There have been plans to query for the zone that should be used for a > connection before activating this connection for the first time. > There > are even sketches for this. But as I said before, this has been > rejected > by the deskto

Re: Fedora 20 Puppet update and SELinux policy

2014-04-23 Thread Lukas Zapletal
> Okay, count me in. Is there a BZ already in place for reporting issues or > should such reports just go straight to Bodhi, or simply back here? There is this one: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1012426 Thanks a lot. -- Later, Lukas "lzap" Zapletal irc: lzap #theforeman -- d

Re: The Forgotten "F": A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

2014-04-23 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 23 April 2014 02:29, Christian Schaller wrote: > Hi Mairin, > Not sure exactly where you are coming from in terms of wanting legal > to weigh in, but in general I don't think legals opinion is very relevant > and this point. The first step here should always be us as a project > deciding what

Re: EPEL Clang package doesn't work on Amazon Linux

2014-04-23 Thread Tyler Brock
Tested it on the latest amazon linux and it works perfectly. Thank you! What are the next steps to get the change into EPEL? -Tyler On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Dave Johansen wrote: > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Tyler Brock wrote: > >> Hey Dave, hope you had a nice weekend. >> >> An

Re: The Forgotten "F": A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

2014-04-23 Thread drago01
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > On 23 April 2014 02:29, Christian Schaller wrote: >> >> Hi Mairin, >> Not sure exactly where you are coming from in terms of wanting legal >> to weigh in, but in general I don't think legals opinion is very relevant >> and this

Review swaps

2014-04-23 Thread Jerry James
Would anyone like to swap reviews? I have 2 pending: subunit: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1065539 This subsumes the existing python-subunit package. It would be good if the reviewer could verify that the python-subunit subpackage is essentially equivalent to the existing python-s

Audacious 3.5 entering Rawhide

2014-04-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
With the fresh release of Audacious 3.5 final [1], I'm going to push this new release also to Rawhide. It has been available via Copr [2] since alpha1 already, and although I've not received any user feedback on the pre-releases at all, I've evaluated it personally and also followed upstream activi

Re: Mass bug proposal: packages that auto-enable systemd units

2014-04-23 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 12:17:10PM -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> Examples of "runs once then goes away" services >> include iptables and udev. > I removed udev from this paragraph on the wiki, since it's persistent and > is

Re: Mass bug proposal: packages that auto-enable systemd units

2014-04-23 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 08:49:58AM -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > If no one tells me otherwise today, I will take the lack of objections > to the mass bug filing as consensus. Yeah, no objections from my side. Zbyszek -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproj

Re: EPEL Clang package doesn't work on Amazon Linux

2014-04-23 Thread Dave Johansen
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Tyler Brock wrote: > Tested it on the latest amazon linux and it works perfectly. Thank you! > > What are the next steps to get the change into EPEL? > > -Tyler > I'll add the patch to the git branch of llvm for EPEL6 and do the build. It will then be available i

Re: Mass bug proposal: packages that auto-enable systemd units

2014-04-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 08:49:58 -0700 Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 12:17:10PM -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > >> Examples of "runs once then goes away" services > >> include iptables and udev. > > I re

Re: EPEL Clang package doesn't work on Amazon Linux

2014-04-23 Thread Tyler Brock
Great, will you let me know when it goes into testing? -Tyler On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Dave Johansen wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Tyler Brock wrote: > >> Tested it on the latest amazon linux and it works perfectly. Thank you! >> >> What are the next steps to get the chang

Re: Mass bug proposal: packages that auto-enable systemd units

2014-04-23 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 08:49:58 -0700 > Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek >> wrote: >> > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 12:17:10PM -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> >> Examples of "runs once the

Re: java-1.8.0-openjdk i686 and x86_64 rpms

2014-04-23 Thread Severin Gehwolf
On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 13:01 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 12:13:29 +0200, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > > On 04/23/2014 12:07 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:51:21 +0200, Severin Gehwolf wrote: > > > > > >> I can only guess, but i386 updates being pus

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-04-24 16:00 UTC)

2014-04-23 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2014-04-24 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2014-04-24 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2014-04-24 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2014-04-24 1

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-04-24 16:00 UTC)

2014-04-23 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2014-04-24 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2014-04-24 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2014-04-24 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2014-04-24 1

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-04-24 16:00 UTC)

2014-04-23 Thread Michael Cronenworth
James Antill wrote: If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket athttps://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the foll

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-04-24 16:00 UTC)

2014-04-23 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 23.04.14 13:15, Michael Cronenworth (m...@cchtml.com) wrote: > James Antill wrote: > > If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to > >this e-mail, file a new ticket athttps://fedorahosted.org/fpc, > >e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, dur

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-23 Thread Miloslav Trmač
Hello, 2014-04-11 13:18 GMT+02:00 Jaroslav Reznik : > = Proposed System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BerkeleyDB_6 > At the FESCo meeting, we were unclear what happens to packages that don't get updated; will they sty at v5, or will they (immediately, or aft

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Fedora 21 Make 4.0 Update

2014-04-23 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:29:21 +0200 Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: Fedora 21 Make 4.0 Update = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F21Make40 > > Change owner(s): Patsy Franklin > > This change brings Make 4.0 to Fedor

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-23 Thread Liam
On Apr 23, 2014 4:29 AM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: > > > > Am 23.04.2014 07:52, schrieb Liam: > > On Apr 22, 2014 5:09 AM, "Christian Schaller" wrote: > >> I think this is a misunderstanding of who a developer might be and why they choose > >> a system. Those of my friends and acquaintances, who are

Re: When a yum update sets up an MTA ...

2014-04-23 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 12:17 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 04/21/2014 03:44 AM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> >> Would it >> make sense to audit all spec files to look for instances of >> 'systemctl.*enable'? > > > I'm attaching the hits for that pattern on the actual RPM scripts in Fedora > rawhi

[perl-Child] Created tag perl-Child-0.010-2.fc21

2014-04-23 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Child-0.010-2.fc21' was created pointing to: d36a262... Downgrade Module::Build version requirement from 0.42 to 0. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedor

Re: Summary of accepted Fedora 21 Changes - weeks 13/14

2014-04-23 Thread Kay Sievers
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: > On 2014-04-07, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> On Mon, 07.04.14 15:00, Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) wrote: >>> * PrivateDevices=yes and PrivateNetwork=yes For Long-Running Services >>> URL: >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Priv