Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part II, “What’s Happening?”)

2014-03-31 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/2014 11:00 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 01:11:58PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: >> I promised a while ago that I would provide a text version of my >> talk at DevConf, for people who couldn't make it and because >> s

F21 Self Contained Change: Apache Oozie

2014-03-31 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Apache Oozie = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ApacheOozie Change owner(s): Robert Rati Apache Oozie [1] is a workflow scheduler system to manage Apache Hadoop jobs. == Detailed Description == Apache Oozie is a workflow scheduler. It is integrated wit

F21 Self Contained Change: Apache HBase

2014-03-31 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Apache HBase = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ApacheHBase Change owner(s): Robert Rati Apache HBase [1] is a distributed database built on top of Apache Hadoop. == Detailed Description == Apache HBase is used when you need random, realtime read/write

F21 Self Contained Change: Apache Hive

2014-03-31 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Apache Hive = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ApacheHive Change owner(s): Peter MacKinnon Apache Hive [1] is a data warehouse built on top of Apache Hadoop. == Detailed Description == The Apache Hive data warehouse software facilitates querying and man

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part II, "What's Happening?")

2014-03-31 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/30/2014 11:00 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 01:11:58PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: >>> I promised a while ago that I would provide a text version of my

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part II, “What’s Happening?”)

2014-03-31 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 04:00:28PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > So first I'll say these are interesting articles, and I encourage > people to read them. Thanks! > I work better when I see some examples of what this would mean in > practice. Under Fedora.next, how & where would you see the

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part II, "What's Happening?")

2014-03-31 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Stephen Gallagher > wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 03/30/2014 11:00 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 01:11:58PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > >>> I promised a while a

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part II, "What's Happening?")

2014-03-31 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 03/31/2014 12:38 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: Workstation will require this too. Having it be in Base is a good idea. If there emerges a WG that does not require this from WG then what and was not base limiting itself to it's already defined package set? JBG -- devel mailing list devel@lists.

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part II, "What's Happening?")

2014-03-31 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > > On 03/31/2014 12:38 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > > Workstation will require this too. Having it be in Base is a good idea. > > If there emerges a WG that does not require this from WG then what and > was not base limiting itself to it's already defined package set? B

F21 System Wide Change: GCC49

2014-03-31 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: GCC49 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GCC49 Change owner(s): Jakub Jelínek Switch GCC in Fedora 21 to 4.9.x, rebuild all packages with it. == Detailed Description == GCC 4.9.0 is currently in stage4, in prerelease state with only regression bugfixes a

Re: RFC: httpd-filesystem proposal

2014-03-31 Thread Joe Orton
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 07:55:19AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > I don't think gnome-user-share is installed by default anymore (or used by > anyone?), but maybe we could finally really solve > , while we are at it. :) I still don't really know

Re: RFC: httpd-filesystem proposal

2014-03-31 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 02:02:28PM +0100, Joe Orton wrote: > > I don't think gnome-user-share is installed by default anymore (or used by > > anyone?), but maybe we could finally really solve > > , while we are at it. :) > I still don't really kno

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part II, "What's Happening?")

2014-03-31 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 03/31/2014 01:00 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Base is common platform for products but it does not mean everything has to be used by other products or everything has to follow base path (for example installer is part of Base as we agreed but it can diverge a lot over products, and even it would

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part II, "What's Happening?")

2014-03-31 Thread Miloslav Trmač
2014-03-31 15:29 GMT+02:00 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" : > You do realize that the size of the base needs to be bound to the lowest > common denominator between current and future multiple products to make it > this kind of proposal work now and in the future right? We are at liberty to force all poss

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part II, "What's Happening?")

2014-03-31 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 03/31/2014 01:46 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: Sure, such choices to simplify our environment at the cost of Base size would disqualify us from the "smallest distribution for embedded use", but we have never really been in that race anyway I hardly call it simplification shifting workload and p

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part II, “What’s Happening?”)

2014-03-31 Thread Rex Dieter
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > - VLC > > Free software video player, but with a requirement (or at least can > use if available) proprietary / patented / ugly / semi-legal codecs. > Currently packaged in RPMFusion for reasons I'm not clear on. I've looked into this a bit, and discussed with other d

Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-04-01)

2014-03-31 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
WG meeting will be at 12:00 UTC, 14:00 Central Europe, 8:00 Boston, 5:00 San Francisco, 21:00 Tokyo in #fedora-meeting on Freenode. I hope time make sense. Otherwise please comment the thread about meeting time. == Topic == * Automatically approve topics, which weren't refused on mailing list

[Owner-change] Fedora packages ownership change

2014-03-31 Thread nobody
Change in ownership over the last 168 hours === 13 packages were orphaned - npth [devel,f19,f20] was orphaned by kevin The New GNU Portable Threads library https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/npth horde [EL-6] wa

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part II, "What's Happening?")

2014-03-31 Thread Corey Sheldon
As I've til recently been a whimsical just install whatever a package needs but am now beginning to look more granularly at this could someone either briefly explain differences in main sources etc or link me to a good write-up to this effect?? much appreciated and while it hasn't been the ea

F21 Self Contained Change: Better Erlang Support

2014-03-31 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Better Erlang Support = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BetterErlangSupport Change owner(s): Peter Lemenkov , Sam Kottler , Fedora Erlang SIG Update Erlang/OTP to R17, and improve Erlang integration with the rest of Fedora. == Detailed Description ==

Announcing an X11 protocol tracing package

2014-03-31 Thread David Howells
xtrace, an X11 protocol tracing package that is already available in Debian is now also available in updates-testing for F20 and Rawhide. xtrace-1.3.1-5.fc20 newpackage testing 2014-03-30 This is used by running a program under xtrace, eg: xtrace xterm The xtrace progr

F21 Self Contained Change: Improved Ivy Packaging

2014-03-31 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Improved Ivy Packaging = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ImprovedIvyPackaging Change owner(s): Mikolaj Izdebski This change aims at improving the way of packaging Java software, which uses Apache Ivy to manage build dependencies. == Detailed Descripti

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part II, “What’s Happening?”)

2014-03-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-03-31 at 09:17 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > - VLC > > > > Free software video player, but with a requirement (or at least can > > use if available) proprietary / patented / ugly / semi-legal codecs. > > Currently packaged in RPMFusion for reasons I'm not

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part II, "What's Happening?")

2014-03-31 Thread Corey Sheldon
Whatever if they can't learn the basics and the fundamental basis of Linux or the "Patent" issues and what have you then go somewhere else like to mac or windows..sometimes you need to work for things and teaching a man to fish is always better and personally while i think at first you may be r

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part II, "What's Happening?")

2014-03-31 Thread David
On 3/31/2014 8:37 PM, Corey Sheldon wrote: > Whatever if they can't learn the basics and the fundamental basis of > Linux or the "Patent" issues and what have you then go somewhere else > like to mac or windows..sometimes you need to work for things and > teaching a man to fish is always better