Re: NetworkManager "forget" user network configurations: bug or feature?

2014-03-26 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2014-03-25 at 16:53 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote: > 2014-03-25 16:20 GMT-03:00 Adam Williamson : > > > On Tue, 2014-03-25 at 16:19 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote: > > > Hi Fedora folks, > > > > > > Since NetworkManager I suffer the same issue, release after release, ok, > > > it's not a Fedora i

Re: What will happen to XFCE, LXDE, Mate, Cinnemon in Fedora.Next

2014-03-26 Thread Robert Mayr
Il 21/mar/2014 12:59 "Matthew Miller" ha scritto: > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:28:26AM +0100, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: > > I agree with Jaroslav. I was looking forward to have a fourth > > product to those three. KDE can help define what is needed for new > > product, what must be done by all te

Re: What will happen to XFCE, LXDE, Mate, Cinnemon in Fedora.Next

2014-03-26 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 08:27 +0100, Robert Mayr wrote: > > Il 21/mar/2014 12:59 "Matthew Miller" ha > scritto: > > > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:28:26AM +0100, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: > > > I agree with Jaroslav. I was looking forward to have a fourth > > > product to those three. KDE can help d

Re: GCJ [was: pdftk retired?]

2014-03-26 Thread Andrew Haley
On 03/24/2014 12:48 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 6:02 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: >> On 03/22/2014 07:51 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: >>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: On 03/19/2014 10:59 PM, Andrew Hughes wrote:>> > And JDK5 might be good enough for

Re: qemu / VNC / vino

2014-03-26 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:06:31PM -0600, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: > If libvirt/qemu-system-x86_64 starts before vino-server (which is > common since we don't leave the vnc access on all the time). Then vino > only listens on ipv6 instead of ipv4 and ipv6. At that point no one can > connect to

Re: What will happen to XFCE, LXDE, Mate, Cinnemon in Fedora.Next

2014-03-26 Thread Robert Mayr
2014-03-26 8:47 GMT+01:00 Mathieu Bridon : > On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 08:27 +0100, Robert Mayr wrote: [snip] >> I think the same, if all spins become products we can also keep the >> actual way. Fedora.next is a very good idea and I'm sure it will have >> success, but it needs to follow his strategy w

Re: Let's close the remaining merge reviews

2014-03-26 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Matthew Miller > wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 05:07:35PM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > >> Alternative idea -- maybe identify all packages which are not ciritcal and > >> have an open merge review. Take those packages out of t

[HEADS UP] Update to Django-1.6, even for f20

2014-03-26 Thread Matthias Runge
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 08:17:36AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > When this goes to updates-testing for F20, please make a > devel-announce post describing what changes that Django package owners > should make in order to keep their package on Django 1.5 or older if > they need to. Earlier toda

Re: Let's close the remaining merge reviews

2014-03-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 08:13:24AM +0530, Parag N(पराग़) wrote: > If those packages are still not following current packaging guidelines > then they should not be closed otherwise what is the use of FPC and > their work, meetings, updating wiki pages all these efforts will be of > no use then for ex

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-26)

2014-03-26 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo > meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. > > To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto > > or run: > date -d '

Re: What will happen to XFCE, LXDE, Mate, Cinnemon in Fedora.Next

2014-03-26 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 03/19/2014 11:52 AM, Tim Lauridsen wrote: What will happen to XFCE, LXDE, Mate, Cinnemon in Fedora.Next ? The Workstation WG, looks like a Gnome only thing, will there be at place of users of other DE's in Fedora.next ? Just create a working group surrounding each of these desktop envi

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 07:59:13PM -0400, Christopher wrote: > I also would like to see 1.7.0 stick around for awhile. Not > necessarily as the default, but at least available in the repos. As it > stands, it's difficult to use a modern Fedora on projects that are > still developing against JDK 1.6

Re: What will happen to XFCE, LXDE, Mate, Cinnemon in Fedora.Next

2014-03-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 07:27:19PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote: > If we can keep the netinstall, which allows people to do exactly this, > then I really could careless what happens with workstation (and I'm > also a happy camper, as I imagine you and many others would be too). I think "generic, flexib

F21 Self Contained Change: Amplab Tachyon

2014-03-26 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Amplab Tachyon = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AmplabTachyon Change owner(s): Timothy St. Clair Amplab-Tachyon [1] is a fault tolerant distributed file system enabling reliable file sharing at memory-speed across cluster frameworks. == Detailed Descr

Summary of accepted Fedora 21 Changes - week 12

2014-03-26 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Greetings! This is a summary of FESCo's accepted Fedora 21 Changes for week 12 (2014-03-19 meeting). Reminder: the Change Submission deadline for System Wide Change is due in less than two weeks! = System Wide Changes = * u-boot syslinux by default URL: ​https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/u

Re: Let's close the remaining merge reviews

2014-03-26 Thread पराग़
Hi, On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 08:13:24AM +0530, Parag N(पराग़) wrote: >> If those packages are still not following current packaging guidelines >> then they should not be closed otherwise what is the use of FPC and >> their work, meetings,

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Deepak Bhole
* Christopher [2014-03-25 19:59]: > I also would like to see 1.7.0 stick around for awhile. Not > necessarily as the default, but at least available in the repos. As it > stands, it's difficult to use a modern Fedora on projects that are > still developing against JDK 1.6. > Unfortunately, OpenJ

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 03/25/2014 06:45 PM, Omair Majid wrote: > * Mikolaj Izdebski [2014-03-24 11:41]: >> On 03/22/2014 06:15 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >>> Given the known large number of failures (OptionalJavadocs says "80% build >>> failure rate" without saying that all are JavaDoc-related), we really >>> should d

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
I'm not proposing having OpenJDK7 in Fedora 21. What I'm asking for is to have them both for a month or two before obsoleting so transition can be smoother if problems appear. Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team - Original Message - > From: "Deepak Bhole" > To: "Development discus

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 03/25/2014 08:07 PM, Omair Majid wrote: > * Mikolaj Izdebski [2014-03-24 11:55]: >> Blocking java-1.7.0-oepnjdk may also be required. This >> makes it impossible to scratch-build Java packages using f21-build >> target in current state. > > Is there anything I can/should do here

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Deepak Bhole
* Aleksandar Kurtakov [2014-03-26 09:41]: > I'm not proposing having OpenJDK7 in Fedora 21. What I'm asking for is to > have them both for a month or two before obsoleting so transition can be > smoother if problems appear. > Ah okay, fair enough. I don't think that should be an issue; altho

File Scalar-List-Utils-1.38.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2014-03-26 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Scalar-List-Utils: cae0bff5dea8a14962229369edc02bac Scalar-List-Utils-1.38.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproje

F21 System Wide Change: PrivateDevices=yes and PrivateNetwork=yes For Long-Running Services

2014-03-26 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: PrivateDevices=yes and PrivateNetwork=yes For Long-Running Services = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PrivateDevicesAndPrivateNetwork Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering , Dan Walsh, Kay Sievers Let's make Fedora more secure by default! Recent systemd versi

Re: qemu / VNC / vino

2014-03-26 Thread David King
Hi On 2014-03-25 12:06, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: I'm not sure where the bug is and it isn't really a big bug as much as I need to be able to tell either vino or qemu-system-x what ports to use. You can change the default port which Vino listens on by changing the value of the "alternative

File MooseX-ConfigFromFile-0.13.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2014-03-26 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-MooseX-ConfigFromFile: 0912c7b626e2fd5088979b8223d58092 MooseX-ConfigFromFile-0.13.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fed

F21 Self Contained Change: DNSSEC support for FreeIPA

2014-03-26 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: DNSSEC support for FreeIPA = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/IPAv3DNSSEC Change owner(s): Petr Špaček FreeIPA with integrated DNS server will support serving of DNSSEC secured zones and automatic DNSSEC key maintenance. This first version will have only

Orphaned: npth

2014-03-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Greetings. I've just orphaned: npth|The New GNU Portable Threads library Interested parties should feel free to take ownership. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-26)

2014-03-26 Thread Miloslav Trmač
2014-03-26 13:10 GMT+01:00 Jaroslav Reznik : > > #topic #1178 Fedora 21 scheduling strategy > > .fesco 1178 > > https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1178 > > Is there anything specific you'd like to discuss so I can prepare? > Otherwise I don't see much sense in having it on agenda until we're >

F21 Self Contained Change: Apache Mesos

2014-03-26 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Apache Mesos = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ApacheMesos Change owner(s): Timothy St. Clair Apache Mesos [1] is a cluster manager for sharing distributed application frameworks. This change brings Mesos to Fedora, which many have called a micro-kernel

Re: F21 System Wide Change: PrivateDevices=yes and PrivateNetwork=yes For Long-Running Services

2014-03-26 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: > = Proposed System Wide Change: PrivateDevices=yes and PrivateNetwork=yes For > Long-Running Services = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PrivateDevicesAndPrivateNetwork > > Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering , Dan > Walsh, Kay Sievers > > Le

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Apache Mesos

2014-03-26 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: > = Proposed Self Contained Change: Apache Mesos = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ApacheMesos > > Change owner(s): Timothy St. Clair > > Apache Mesos [1] is a cluster manager for sharing distributed application > frameworks. This change brin

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Apache Mesos

2014-03-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:29:35AM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Apache Mesos [1] is a cluster manager for sharing distributed application > > frameworks. This change brings Mesos to Fedora, which many have called a > > micro-kernel for the data center. > Are we clustering Changes by product

Re: F21 System Wide Change: PrivateDevices=yes and PrivateNetwork=yes For Long-Running Services

2014-03-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.03.2014 16:28, schrieb Bill Nottingham: > Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: >> = Proposed System Wide Change: PrivateDevices=yes and PrivateNetwork=yes For >> Long-Running Services = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PrivateDevicesAndPrivateNetwork >> >> Change owner(s): L

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Apache Mesos

2014-03-26 Thread H . Guémar
+1 Mesos is definitively an asset for the Fedora Cloud Product and would fit in some of our use cases. H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: NetworkManager "forget" user network configurations: bug or feature?

2014-03-26 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 25 March 2014 13:53, Sergio Belkin wrote: > > > Adam, > > I've found that by default when I create a user, the checkbox in > NetworkManager that says > > "All users may connect to this network" is checked! > > If I uncheck anyway the network configuration files are in > /etc/sysconfig/network-

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 26 March 2014 07:41, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > On 03/25/2014 06:45 PM, Omair Majid wrote: > > * Mikolaj Izdebski [2014-03-24 11:41]: > >> On 03/22/2014 06:15 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > >>> Given the known large number of failures (OptionalJavadocs says "80% > build > >>> failure rate" withou

Broken dependencies: perl-GnuPG-Interface

2014-03-26 Thread buildsys
perl-GnuPG-Interface has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-GnuPG-Interface-0.50-1.fc21.noarch requires perl(MooX::late) perl-GnuPG-Interface-0.50-1.fc21.noarch requires perl(MooX::HandlesVia) On i386: perl-GnuPG-Interface-0.50-1.fc21.noarch requires

Broken dependencies: mojomojo

2014-03-26 Thread buildsys
mojomojo has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch requires perl(HTML::FormFu::Element::reCAPTCHA) On i386: mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch requires perl(HTML::FormFu::Element::reCAPTCHA) On armhfp: mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch requir

Broken dependencies: perl-Language-Expr

2014-03-26 Thread buildsys
perl-Language-Expr has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2) On i386: perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2) On armhfp: perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.

Broken dependencies: perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu

2014-03-26 Thread buildsys
perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu-0.09004-4.fc20.noarch requires perl(HTML::FormFu::MultiForm) On i386: perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu-0.09004-4.fc20.noarch requires perl(HTML:

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Christopher
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Deepak Bhole wrote: > * Christopher [2014-03-25 19:59]: >> I also would like to see 1.7.0 stick around for awhile. Not >> necessarily as the default, but at least available in the repos. As it >> stands, it's difficult to use a modern Fedora on projects that are >

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 26 March 2014 10:29, Christopher wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Deepak Bhole wrote: > > * Christopher [2014-03-25 19:59]: > >> I also would like to see 1.7.0 stick around for awhile. Not > >> necessarily as the default, but at least available in the repos. As it > >> stands, it's

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - > From: "Christopher" > To: "Deepak Bhole" , "Development discussions related to > Fedora" > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:29:55 PM > Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8 > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Deepak Bhole wrote: > > * Christopher [2014-0

[perl-Rose-DB-Object/el6] update to version 0.811

2014-03-26 Thread Bill Pemberton
commit 9c4ba8abb795bbfde4e8a31cf0098fa1ac44f0ed Author: Bill Pemberton Date: Wed Mar 26 12:51:08 2014 -0400 update to version 0.811 - fixes a bug that prevented many-to-many map records from being saved to the database .gitignore |1 + perl-Rose-DB-Object.

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
On Wed 26 Mar 2014 05:29:55 PM CET Christopher wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Deepak Bhole wrote: >> * Christopher [2014-03-25 19:59]: >>> I also would like to see 1.7.0 stick around for awhile. Not >>> necessarily as the default, but at least available in the repos. As it >>> stands,

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 03/26/2014 05:52 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: > On Wed 26 Mar 2014 05:29:55 PM CET Christopher wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Deepak Bhole wrote: >>> * Christopher [2014-03-25 19:59]: I also would like to see 1.7.0 stick around for awhile. Not necessarily as the def

[Bug 1055297] perl-Rose-DB-Object-0.811 is available

2014-03-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1055297 --- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System --- perl-Rose-DB-Object-0.811-1.el6 has been submitted as an update for Fedora EPEL 6. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Rose-DB-Object-0.811-1.el6 -- You are receiving this mail because: Y

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
On Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:19:52 PM CET Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 07:59:13PM -0400, Christopher wrote: >> I also would like to see 1.7.0 stick around for awhile. Not >> necessarily as the default, but at least available in the repos. As it >> stands, it's difficult to use a modern

[Bug 1055297] perl-Rose-DB-Object-0.811 is available

2014-03-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1055297 --- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System --- perl-Rose-DB-Object-0.811-1.fc19 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 19. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Rose-DB-Object-0.811-1.fc19 -- You are receiving this mail because: You

[perl-Rose-DB-Object/f20] update to version 0.811

2014-03-26 Thread Bill Pemberton
commit 0c21768eff9403684969b6ab841f07525f76761a Author: Bill Pemberton Date: Wed Mar 26 13:11:40 2014 -0400 update to version 0.811 - fixes a bug that prevented many-to-many map records from being saved to the database .gitignore |1 + perl-Rose-DB-Object.

Re: Let's close the remaining merge reviews

2014-03-26 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 03/26/2014 08:46 AM, Parag N(पराग़) wrote: Hi, On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 08:13:24AM +0530, Parag N(पराग़) wrote: If those packages are still not following current packaging guidelines then they should not be closed otherwise what is th

Re: F21 System Wide Change: PrivateDevices=yes and PrivateNetwork=yes For Long-Running Services

2014-03-26 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/26/2014 10:06 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > Note that PrivateNetwork=yes should not be used for: > > 1. Services that actually require network access (with the > exception of daemons only needing socket activation) 2. Services > which may be us

Re: F21 System Wide Change: PrivateDevices=yes and PrivateNetwork=yes For Long-Running Services

2014-03-26 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/26/2014 11:30 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 26.03.2014 16:28, schrieb Bill Nottingham: >> Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: >>> = Proposed System Wide Change: PrivateDevices=yes and >>> PrivateNetwork=yes For Long-Running Services =

Re: F21 System Wide Change: PrivateDevices=yes and PrivateNetwork=yes For Long-Running Services

2014-03-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.03.2014 18:52, schrieb Stephen Gallagher: > On 03/26/2014 11:30 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> i just tried on F20 and "PrivateDevices" is not known sadly because >> i have some services in mind where i would like that > >> Mär 26 15:51:55 testserver.rhsoft.net systemd[1]: >> [/usr/lib/system

Re: F21 System Wide Change: PrivateDevices=yes and PrivateNetwork=yes For Long-Running Services

2014-03-26 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 26.03.2014 18:52, schrieb Stephen Gallagher: >> On 03/26/2014 11:30 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> i just tried on F20 and "PrivateDevices" is not known sadly because >>> i have some services in mind where i would like that >> >>> Mär 26

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-03-27 17:00 UTC) (next week back to 16:00 UTC)

2014-03-26 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2014-03-27 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. NOTE: US is on DST, so it's an hour later for them than "normal". Also note that most of the rest of the world should have DST this weekend, so nex

Re: NetworkManager "forget" user network configurations: bug or feature?

2014-03-26 Thread Sergio Belkin
El 26/03/14 12:45, Stephen John Smoogen escribió: On 25 March 2014 13:53, Sergio Belkin > wrote: Adam, I've found that by default when I create a user, the checkbox in NetworkManager that says "All users may connect to this network" is checked!

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-26)

2014-03-26 Thread Miloslav Trmač
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2014-03-26) === Meeting started by mitr at 18:00:57 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-03-26/fesco.2014-03-26-18.00.log.html . Meeting summary -

Re: What will happen to XFCE, LXDE, Mate, Cinnemon in Fedora.Next

2014-03-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-03-25 at 08:21 +, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > On 25/03/14 03:00 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > On Mon, 2014-03-24 at 17:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> Saying that "nobody" wants this, it's "madness", "totally wacky", > >> "almost all users are NOT going to put up with th

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-26)

2014-03-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 09:31:20PM +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > --- > * init process (mitr, 18:01:03) > * sgallagh is here (sgallagh, 18:01:08) FTR other people were too :) -- Matthew Miller-- Fedora Project-- -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org h

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-03-27 17:00 UTC) (next week back to 16:00 UTC)

2014-03-26 Thread Miloslav Trmač
2014-03-26 20:51 GMT+01:00 James Antill : > (approval and retirement sections already passed, /opt exception passed) > #topic #339 software collections in Fedora > .fpc 339 > https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/339 I can't help seeing this on the agenda for a long time (the ticket has been ope

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-26)

2014-03-26 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/26/2014 04:42 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 09:31:20PM +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >> --- * init process (mitr, 18:01:03) * sgallagh is >> here (sgallagh, 18:01:08) > > FTR other people were too :) > I'll a

Re: What will happen to XFCE, LXDE, Mate, Cinnemon in Fedora.Next

2014-03-26 Thread drago01
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 1:14 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 03/19/2014 11:52 AM, Tim Lauridsen wrote: >> >> What will happen to XFCE, LXDE, Mate, Cinnemon in Fedora.Next ? >> >> The Workstation WG, looks like a Gnome only thing, will there be at place >> of users of other DE's in Fedora

Re: NetworkManager "forget" user network configurations: bug or feature?

2014-03-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Sergio Belkin wrote: > Hmmm... but NetworkManager should think in desktop users (ok, somewhat > power desktop users) that install a new release/distro and a user > configuration should be completely independent. Or at least give the > chance to save either systemwide or "userwide". Anyway thanks fo

Re: NetworkManager "forget" user network configurations: bug or feature?

2014-03-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.03.2014 22:47, schrieb Kevin Kofler: > Sergio Belkin wrote: >> Hmmm... but NetworkManager should think in desktop users (ok, somewhat >> power desktop users) that install a new release/distro and a user >> configuration should be completely independent. Or at least give the >> chance to sav

Re: NetworkManager "forget" user network configurations: bug or feature?

2014-03-26 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 16:57 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote: > El 26/03/14 12:45, Stephen John Smoogen escribió: > > > > > > > > On 25 March 2014 13:53, Sergio Belkin > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Adam, > > > > I've found that by default when I create a user, the checkbox

Re: F21 System Wide Change: PrivateDevices=yes and PrivateNetwork=yes For Long-Running Services

2014-03-26 Thread William Brown
On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 13:43 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 03/26/2014 10:06 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > > > Note that PrivateNetwork=yes should not be used for: > > > > 1. Services that actually require network access (with the > > exception of daemons only needing socket activation) 2.