Re: java headless

2014-03-06 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
On Thu 06 Mar 2014 12:58:46 AM CET Sérgio Basto wrote: > Hi , > is java-headless, jre (Java Runtime Environment) ? if not, what is the > difference ? . Headless is a subset of full JRE without support for some graphical operations, sound etc (i.e. desktop features that are usually useless on serv

Re: hierarchical comps groups proposal

2014-03-06 Thread Jens Petersen
> My concern would be how deeply woven the current format is into our tools - > it's yum, PK, DNF, anaconda, and all the tools built on top of it. It's > exposed in kickstart. It's expected to be handled by older versions on > upgrade, or even by mock when constructing arbitrary build roots. > > S

pdftk retired?

2014-03-06 Thread Michael J Gruber
I just git a "broken dependencies" notice for a package that I maintain. The reason is that "pdftk" got retired just the other day. I may have missed a corresponding post on fedora-devel, but I think a heads up notice to maintainers of depending packages may be in order before you retire a package

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Lohit Odia Gurumukhi font naming

2014-03-06 Thread pravin....@gmail.com
Two changes done 1. Moved page with correct name for Gurmukhi script. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Lohit_Odia_Gurmukhi 2. Propose this change as a System wide since might be there are some other packages i am not aware using old names. Let me know if anything still missing. Best Regards

Re: pdftk retired?

2014-03-06 Thread Susi Lehtola
On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 11:31:18 +0100 Michael J Gruber wrote: > I just git a "broken dependencies" notice for a package that I maintain. > The reason is that "pdftk" got retired just the other day. > > I may have missed a corresponding post on fedora-devel, but I think a > heads up notice to maintai

Re: pdftk retired?

2014-03-06 Thread Florian Weimer
On 03/06/2014 11:31 AM, Michael J Gruber wrote: As for pdftk: I see 2 failed builds for version 1.45 and none for the current version 2.02 (which probably breaks the api anyways). What are the plans? Retire pdftk completely? Start fresh with pdftk2? pdftk has a hard dependency on GCJ because i

Re: pdftk retired?

2014-03-06 Thread Jochen Schmitt
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 12:03:46PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > pdftk has a hard dependency on GCJ because it's a C++ program that > uses a Java library (iText) through CNI. I once tried to rewrite > the C++ part in Java, but the existing command line parser is quite > involved, so I didn't qui

F21 Self Contained Change: Add amd map parser to autofs

2014-03-06 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Add amd map parser to autofs = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Add_amd_map_parser_to_autofs Change owner(s): Ian Kent The am-utils package provides automount services for automount maps that use an amd format. However, the am-utils project has not been a

[Fwd: Rebase of PyGreSQL to 4.1.1 into fedora rawhide]

2014-03-06 Thread Jozef Mlich
I apologize if someone read that message twice. I sent it yesterday, but I am not able to find it. Forwarded Message From: Jozef Mlich To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 12:59:43 +0100 Dear Fedora developers, I would like to push new version of PyGreSQL

Beta2 of clojure-1.6.0 hits Rawhide

2014-03-06 Thread Jochen Schmitt
Hello, I will announce that a prerelease of clojure-1.6.0 has hit Rawhide. For detailted information about the changes of the upcoming releae of clujure please refer the upstream homepage [1]. Best Regards: Jochen Schmitt [1} http://clojure.org -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: pdftk retired?

2014-03-06 Thread Joachim Backes
On 03/06/2014 12:03 PM, Susi Lehtola wrote: > On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 11:31:18 +0100 > Michael J Gruber wrote: >> I just git a "broken dependencies" notice for a package that I maintain. >> The reason is that "pdftk" got retired just the other day. >> >> I may have missed a corresponding post on fedor

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/06/2014 02:06 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 03:57:02PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> * #1230Requesting FESCo address Cherokee logo issue >> (notting, 18:48:47) * LINK: >> https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1230 (no

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-03-06 17:00 UTC)

2014-03-06 Thread Robert Rati
Could someone add https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/392 to the agenda for today's meeting? I believe I have provided all the information the FPC asked for the last time it was discussed. Rob On 03/05/2014 04:27 PM, James Antill wrote: Following is the list of topics that will be discusse

Re: pdftk retired?

2014-03-06 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 03/06/2014 12:03 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 03/06/2014 11:31 AM, Michael J Gruber wrote: > > pdftk has a hard dependency on GCJ because it's a C++ program that uses a > Java library (iText) through CNI. I once tried to rewrite the C++ part in > Java, but the existing command line parser

Re: Sshd getting 'dyntransition' AVC's in SElinux enforcing mode

2014-03-06 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/06/2014 01:45 AM, Dan Callaghan wrote: > Excerpts from Dan Callaghan's message of 2014-03-06 16:43:26 +1000: >> Excerpts from Daniel J Walsh's message of 2014-01-03 01:46:44 +1000: >>> This is caused by sshd running with the wrong label, It shoul

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-06 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
sgallagh wrote: >> Seriously? Retiring useful package? Isn't that a bit of >> overkill? (Yes, I'm grumpy because I'm using Cherokee). > > This has been discussed ad nauseam. > > The reasoning was that upstream ships imagery that is in violation of > Fedora's policy not to ship offensive materia

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-06 Thread drago01
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > > sgallagh wrote: > >>> Seriously? Retiring useful package? Isn't that a bit of >>> overkill? (Yes, I'm grumpy because I'm using Cherokee). >> >> This has been discussed ad nauseam. >> >> The reasoning was that upstream ships imagery that

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-06 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 15:50:37 +0100, drago01 wrote: For instance we named a release "beefy miracle" and that might have been offensive for some people (ex. in India)., but apparently no one cared enough to "officially" complain. That depends on what you mean by official. I believe this i

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:50 AM, drago01 wrote: > For instance we named a release "beefy miracle" and that might have > been offensive for some people (ex. in India)., but > apparently no one cared enough to "officially" complain. > I certainly did file a complaint against generic-logos which

[perl-Net-GitHub/epel7] (6 commits) ...0.56 bump

2014-03-06 Thread Lubomir Rintel
Summary of changes: e09fc3e... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass (*) 3bd36cb... Perl 5.18 rebuild (*) ff127e8... 0.53 bump (*) aa25e92... 0.54 bump (*) de61f8d... 0.55 bump, no code changes (*) 3b6fae0... 0.56 bump (*) (*) This commit already existed in anoth

Proposal: Don't show applications in the software center with XPM icons

2014-03-06 Thread Richard Hughes
XPM is an old standard for icons used by a very small number of desktop packages in Fedora. The XPM icons are normally small, mostly 8 bit, and usually without an alpha channel and look very bad in the software center. I'm going to propose for F21 that we drop support for XPM in the metadata extra

Re: Re: Packaging guideline for a library using either Qt4 or Qt5

2014-03-06 Thread Laurent Rineau
Le Wednesday 05 March 2014 18:40:10 Kevin Kofler a écrit : > Laurent Rineau wrote: > > libQGLViewer (http://www.libqglviewer.com/) is a library that can be build > > with either Qt4 or Qt5, with recent versions. > > > > I am considering providing packages build with both Qt4 and Qt5. I > > persona

review swap: cscppc, cswrap

2014-03-06 Thread Kamil Dudka
Hi, is anyone willing to review or swap reviews of the following packages? * cscppc - A compiler wrapper that runs cppcheck in background, available at * cswrap - Generic compiler wrapper, available at Basic info and mo

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 03:50:37PM +0100, drago01 wrote: > For instance we named a release "beefy miracle" and that might have > been offensive for some people (ex. in India)., but > apparently no one cared enough to "officially" complain. Additionally, there is a fundamental difference here. The

Re: Re: Packaging guideline for a library using either Qt4 or Qt5

2014-03-06 Thread Rex Dieter
Laurent Rineau wrote: > Do you suggest that the upstream project should have a different library > name when it is compiled with Qt4 and Qt5? Yes. library name *and* header path (and anything else that may potentially conflict). -- Rex -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-06 Thread drago01
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 03:50:37PM +0100, drago01 wrote: >> For instance we named a release "beefy miracle" and that might have >> been offensive for some people (ex. in India)., but >> apparently no one cared enough to "officially" complain.

Re: Proposal: Don't show applications in the software center with XPM icons

2014-03-06 Thread Tim Lauridsen
Not showing app, because they have bad looking icons, seems like a bad idea to me. what about using some cairo magic to merge the .xpm icon with some other .png frame to make it look better http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10983739/how-to-composite-multiple-png-into-a-single-png-using-gtk-cairo

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-06 Thread drago01
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 15:50:37 +0100, > drago01 wrote: >> >> >> For instance we named a release "beefy miracle" and that might have >> been offensive for some people (ex. in India)., but >> apparently no one cared enough to "officially"

Re: hierarchical comps groups proposal

2014-03-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 03:40:34AM -0500, Jens Petersen wrote: > I would like to suggest the idea of adding support for > hierarchical comps groups to Fedora. Worth noting that it _used_ to have that functionality and it was dropped. > With the Fedora.next initiative now seems a good time to do t

Re: pdftk retired?

2014-03-06 Thread Tom Callaway
On 03/06/2014 06:41 AM, Jochen Schmitt wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 12:03:46PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> pdftk has a hard dependency on GCJ because it's a C++ program that >> uses a Java library (iText) through CNI. I once tried to rewrite >> the C++ part in Java, but the existing com

Re: Re: Packaging guideline for a library using either Qt4 or Qt5

2014-03-06 Thread Kevin Kofler
Laurent Rineau wrote: > Do you suggest that the upstream project should have a different library > name when it is compiled with Qt4 and Qt5? Yes, see Rex Dieter's reply. > Why is that better than the following suggestion: > > /usr/lib64/libQGLViewer.so -> libQGLViewer.so.2.5.1 > /usr/lib64/

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-06 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I certainly did file a complaint against generic-logos which has a similar > problem with Fedora Board which in turn dismissed my concern and failed to > answer my follow up question and I gave up on it. That is of course > artwork that Fedora itself is upstream of rather t

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/06/2014 03:02 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> I certainly did file a complaint against generic-logos which has >> a similar problem with Fedora Board which in turn dismissed my >> concern and failed to answer my follow up quest

Re: Read this if your package includes a status notifier / system tray icon

2014-03-06 Thread Kevin Kofler
I wrote: > PS: > > I wrote: >> --+-- >> GTK+ (2 or 3) | You must use Canonical's libappindicator, which >> is >> | interoperable with the KDE implementation. It is >> | already p

Re: Default invocation of pytest for qadevel projects

2014-03-06 Thread Mike Ruckman
On Thu, 6 Mar 2014 07:29:32 -0700 Tim Flink wrote: > On Thu, 6 Mar 2014 05:44:15 -0500 (EST) > Kamil Paral wrote: > > > > For the qadevel projects I'm aware of, we've been using pytest for > > > our unit/functional test runner. > > > > > > As part of the shared configuration, tests are split u

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/06/2014 03:11 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 03/06/2014 03:02 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> I certainly did file a complaint against generic-logos which >>> has a similar problem with Fedora Board which in turn dismissed

Re: Read this if your package includes a status notifier / system tray icon

2014-03-06 Thread drago01
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 5:30 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > PS: > > I wrote: >> --+--- >> GTK+ (2 or 3) | You must use Canonical's libappindicator, which is >> | interoperable with the KDE implementation. I

Re: Read this if your package includes a status notifier / system tray icon

2014-03-06 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2014-03-06 at 00:07 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > That was the excuse for not supporting the spec in GNOME Shell: > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2010-January/011228.html > A very bad excuse, considering that, as I pointed out, the spec GNOME > proposes using instead (the Galag

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-06 Thread Björn Persson
Stephen Gallagher wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >On 03/06/2014 03:11 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> On 03/06/2014 03:02 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>> Rahul Sundaram wrote: I certainly did file a complaint against generic-logos which has a similar problem with Fed

Re: Read this if your package includes a status notifier / system tray icon

2014-03-06 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthias Clasen wrote: > Please stop rewriting history. The spec was proposed, flaws were pointed > out in the review, and there was no willingness to address those flaws > in any meaningful way. The purported "flaws" were of 2 kinds: * claims of underspecification that are irrelevant in practice

Re: Read this if your package includes a status notifier / system tray icon

2014-03-06 Thread Kevin Kofler
drago01 wrote: > Legacy icons are not limited to 24x24 pixels that's a myth. In practice, they are. Ask Martin Gräßlin and/or Aaron Seigo for details. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of C

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-06 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 07/17/2013 04:39 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Rollback Change owner(s): Stephen Gallagher , Colin Walters With the advent of thinly-provisioned LVM pools, it has become possible for us to imp

Re: Read this if your package includes a status notifier / system tray icon

2014-03-06 Thread drago01
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Matthias Clasen wrote: >> Please stop rewriting history. The spec was proposed, flaws were pointed >> out in the review, and there was no willingness to address those flaws >> in any meaningful way. > > The purported "flaws" were of 2 kinds: >

Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

2014-03-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> Other developers: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin Provisioning >> Release engineering: N/A (not a System Wide Change) >> Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change) >> >> [1] >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Installer

Re: Proposal: Don't show applications in the software center with XPM icons

2014-03-06 Thread Satyajit Sahoo
Apps with ugly icons and ugly design results in bad user experience IMO. They should not be displayed in the software center. If devs want an icon, there are lots of icon designers out there who can contribute one. You just need to ask. On 7 March 2014 00:21, Tim Lauridsen wrote: > Not showing ap