Critical Path: New Python version (2.7.6) in Rawhide

2014-01-31 Thread Tomas Radej
Hi, I have updated Python in Rawhide to version 2.7.6. The build is already tagged as f21. As far as I checked, the API/ABI should remain the same. Most patches applied neatly, only a few needed a rebase, and two were 1:1 incorporated upstream. If something Python-related starts acting up, try lo

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Stephen Gallagher
> On Jan 31, 2014, at 3:30 AM, Les Howell wrote: > >> On Thu, 2014-01-30 at 07:47 -0500, Christian Schaller wrote: >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jaroslav Reznik" >>> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:25:10 PM >

Re: guided/interactive/scripted tutorials

2014-01-31 Thread Ian Malone
On 30 January 2014 23:02, Richard Fearn wrote: >> You may have used this kind >> of thing - it tells you 'click this next' and waits until you do. >> As you might expect, googling for anything along these lines without >> having a very precise set of keywords only returns pages of tutorials. >> An

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 06:03:48 -0500 (EST) Stephen Gallagher wrote: > What this does reveal is a bigger problem: that the audiences of at > least some of the spins are not aware of this relationship to the > larger Fedora ecosystem. This would indicate that the "dropping" or > de-promoting the spin

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Ian Malone
On 30 January 2014 23:07, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Przemek Klosowski > wrote: >> On 01/29/2014 07:10 PM, Ian Malone wrote: >> >> On 29 January 2014 23:58, Josh Boyer wrote: >> >> I consider myself squarely in the middle of those two camps. I think >> they have value

rawhide builder issues?

2014-01-31 Thread Josh Boyer
Hi, I've sent two builds of linux-firmware to koji this morning and both fail with a strange error in root.log/mock_output.log: ERROR: Command failed. See logs for output. # ['fedpkg', 'sources'] Downloading linux-firmware-20140131.tar.gz error: line 41: Double separato

Re: rawhide builder issues?

2014-01-31 Thread Dan Horák
27;sources'] > Downloading linux-firmware-20140131.tar.gz > error: line 41: Double separator '-' in: iwl100-firmware-39.31.5.1-4: > Obsoletes: iwl100-firmware < iwl100-firmware-39.31.5.1-4 must be Obsoletes: iwl100-firmware < 39.31.5.1-4 it's a new sanity check pr

[perl-JavaScript-Minifier] 1.11 bump

2014-01-31 Thread Jitka Plesnikova
commit bf573f4561ebee24c507160f5b28b6084d179a68 Author: Jitka Plesnikova Date: Fri Jan 31 14:17:07 2014 +0100 1.11 bump .gitignore|1 + perl-JavaScript-Minifier.spec |8 +++- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 2 delet

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2014-01-31 at 06:03 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > What this does reveal is a bigger problem: that the audiences of at least > some of the spins are not aware of this relationship to the larger Fedora > ecosystem. This would indicate that the "dropping" or de-promoting the spins >

Re: rawhide builder issues?

2014-01-31 Thread Josh Boyer
;> >> ERROR: Command failed. See logs for output. >> # ['fedpkg', 'sources'] >> Downloading linux-firmware-20140131.tar.gz >> error: line 41: Double separator '-' in: iwl100-firmware-39.31.5.1-4: >> Obsoletes: iwl100-firmware < iwl100-firm

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Lukáš Tinkl
Dne 31.1.2014 14:20, Matthias Clasen napsal(a): On Fri, 2014-01-31 at 06:03 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: What this does reveal is a bigger problem: that the audiences of at least some of the spins are not aware of this relationship to the larger Fedora ecosystem. This would indicate that t

gpodder update for f21

2014-01-31 Thread Jon Ciesla
>From the release note request: gpodder is being upgraded from 2.20.3 to 3.5.2. There is a configuration and date storage change between these versions. After upgrading the RPM, any user on the system who uses gpodder, prior to opening it, should run /usr/bin/gpodder-migrate2tres, which will migr

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 08:20:18 -0500 Matthias Clasen wrote: > I've seen mails on this list recently where people proudly stated that > they would continue to advertise one particular spin at conferences > etc The current product is not Gnome, it is Fedora. And if asked about Xfce, which I solely u

Re: rawhide builder issues?

2014-01-31 Thread Panu Matilainen
mmand failed. See logs for output. # ['fedpkg', 'sources'] Downloading linux-firmware-20140131.tar.gz error: line 41: Double separator '-' in: iwl100-firmware-39.31.5.1-4: Obsoletes: iwl100-firmware < iwl100-firmware-39.31.5.1-4 must be Obsoletes: iwl100-firmware

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 14:34:17 +0100 Lukáš Tinkl wrote: > Fedora isn't a Gnome OS, perhaps that's what they're trying to > convey; making it one will most probably create less confusion but > I'm sure it will also make us less relevant (my personal opinion). Currently it's not, it is a default DE,

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2014-01-31 at 14:34 +0100, Lukáš Tinkl wrote: > Fedora isn't a Gnome OS, perhaps that's what they're trying to convey; > making it one will most probably create less confusion but I'm sure it > will also make us less relevant (my personal opinion). Not sure why that was necessary, but I

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote: I would be happy if Fedora moves towards being an OS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux comes in both Server and Workstation variants, among others. To continue to serve a useful role as upstream, I believe Fedora should be able to do *both* of

[Base] Meeting canceled for today

2014-01-31 Thread Phil Knirsch
Apologies for the late notice everyone, but as i've been head of heels in tons of other work the past week and quite a few folks are either traveling or attending FOSDEM this weekend we're canceling the meeting today. Next week we'll have to see with a lot of people being at DevConf in Brno/C

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2014-01-31 at 11:22 +, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 06:03:48 -0500 (EST) > Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > What this does reveal is a bigger problem: that the audiences of at > > least some of the spins are not aware of this relationship to the > > larger Fedora ecosystem.

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 10:53:17 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: > > Personally, I know currently, most DEs' can be installed with yum > > groupinstall. But, that may not always be the case. > > I haven't seen any indication that anyone wants that to change as part > of .next. I do sincerely hope you

[perl-autobox] Created tag perl-autobox-2.77-2.el7

2014-01-31 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-autobox-2.77-2.el7' was created pointing to: bcfce90... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Mass -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedor

[perl-IPC-System-Simple/epel7] (5 commits) ...Update to 1.25

2014-01-31 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 6d58c92... Perl 5.18 rebuild (*) b935bce... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass (*) f62ffa1... Update to 1.23 (*) 17bad99... Update to 1.24 (*) 40163f7... Update to 1.25 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail s

Packages installing files to /etc/rpm

2014-01-31 Thread Ville Skyttä
A number of packages install files to /etc/rpm in Rawhide; the proper place for macros.* is /usr/lib/rpm/macros.d for rpm >= 4.11. And no matter what the location, these files should not be marked as %config. Specfiles not targeting EL < 7 can simply replace %{_sysconfdir}/rpm with %{_rpmconfigdir

Re: Packages installing files to /etc/rpm

2014-01-31 Thread Sandro Mani
On 31.01.2014 21:23, Ville Skyttä wrote: smani keyrings-filesystem (none) Fixed. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Frank Murphy [31/01/2014 11:22] : > > Personally, I know currently, most DEs' can be installed with yum > groupinstall. But, that may not always be the case. I'm going to go in the opposite direction. The old anaconda installer made it hard to see what groups you were installing and how you coul

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:50:59 +0100 Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > * Frank Murphy [31/01/2014 11:22] : > > > > Personally, I know currently, most DEs' can be installed with yum > > groupinstall. But, that may not always be the case. > > I'm going to go in the opposite direction. The old anaconda instal

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-01-29 at 15:30 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Apologies for the slightly alarmist $SUBJECT, but I want to make sure > that this gets read by the appropriate groups. > > During today's FESCo meeting, there was the start of a discussion on > how to approve new Products into the Fedor

[Bug 1060360] New: Request branch

2014-01-31 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1060360 Bug ID: 1060360 Summary: Request branch Product: Fedora EPEL Version: epel7 Component: perl-Mail-MboxParser Assignee: mmasl...@redhat.com Reporter: nathan...@gnat.ca

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 14:37:02 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: > So in my new constructive spirit ;) let me take a crack at some > answers to this: > > I think the Spins process as it currently exists has a lot of > problems. We've been saying this for years, long before we even > thought about Fedor

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2014-01-31 at 16:22 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > The desktop spins are the ones that seem most important to keep. I > > think there's a reasonable argument for dropping most or all of the > > non-desktop spins, because they're essentially just vehicles for > > delivering package groups, w

Self introduction

2014-01-31 Thread Sancho Lerena
Hello everybody, I'm new in Fedora Devel list, using fedora and centos for years, and I intend to become -official- packager for my own project, Pandora FMS, a server/network monitoring project. I'm looking for a sponsor who guide me in the wonders of the fedora packaging. I have being creating