On Thu, 2014-01-30 at 07:58 +, Frank Murphy wrote:
> If storage is the problem, cull all
> Fedora EOL 3+ year releases\rpms etc.
We already do this - old releases are moved to
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/ , where they're stored
differently and not mirrored. We kinda ought to keep
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 18:58:22 -0500
Josh Boyer wrote:
> I consider myself squarely in the middle of those two camps. I think
> they have value to people. I think they fill a niche, however large
> or small it might be. I also think they can be done by the people
> wishing to provide them withou
On 01/29/2014 05:05 PM, Richard Hughes wrote:
Great news, thanks for doing this. Is there any more documentation on
libcomps yet? i.e. is it stable enough to use now?
There is at least: https://github.com/midnightercz/libcomps/wiki
But ask Jindrich.
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Radek Holy writes:
> I have just added the metadata creation. Good point, thank you.
Another thing worth mentioning: The release tags of those rpms are
incorrect.
Instead of:
dnf-0.4.12-1.git3584018.fc20
It should be:
dnf-0.4.12-0.1.git3584018.fc20
That way when 0.4.12 is actually released the
On 01/30/2014 10:38 AM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote:
> Radek Holy writes:
>
>> I have just added the metadata creation. Good point, thank you.
>
> Another thing worth mentioning: The release tags of those rpms are
> incorrect.
>
> Instead of:
> dnf-0.4.12-1.git3584018.fc20
> It should be:
> dnf-
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If I understand the dep-chain correctly:
libreoffice-writer -> libreoffice-core -> jre ->
java-1.7.0-openjdk-headless -> apache-commons-logging -> log4j
This means I get an ugly icon called "Chainsaw" in the GNOME Software
center that when I try to remove also removes all the LibreOffice
packages
The difference here is that the resources for GNOME (or anything else Red Hat
needs for future versions of RHEL) are
provided by Red Hat. So if you want the spins to the logically the same in
terms of resources we should start demanding
that any spin set up needs to provide an annual monetary c
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Christian Schaller wrote:
> The difference here is that the resources for GNOME (or anything else Red
> Hat needs for future versions of RHEL) are
> provided by Red Hat. So if you want the spins to the logically the same in
> terms of resources we should start dema
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> From: "piruthiviraj natarajan"
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:45:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Christian Schaller < cscha...@re
commit c082cb4e807c0de5bc941c1ffaca164b9e284740
Author: Paul Howarth
Date: Thu Jan 30 10:51:05 2014 +
Update to 1.19
- New upstream release 1.19
- Set pre-req File::Temp version # to 0 (back from 0.2301)
- Note that the actual requirement is for version 0.19 due to
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 05:40:40 -0500 (EST)
Christian Schaller wrote:
> The difference here is that the resources for GNOME (or anything else
> Red Hat needs for future versions of RHEL) are provided by Red Hat.
> So if you want the spins to the logically the same in terms of
> resources we should s
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> From: "Richard Hughes"
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:32:57 PM
> Subject: Another questionable dependency chain -- libreoffice-writer installs
> log4j-chainsaw
>
> If I understand the dep-chain correctly:
On 30 January 2014 11:17, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
> Clarification the actual chain is
>
> java-headless->rhino->jline->jansi->hawtjni->xbean->avalon-framework->log4j
Ahh, thanks for working that one out. Java isn't my area of expertise.
> It's time to prune such things out of the distro
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Christian Schaller wrote:
> What I mean to say is that Red Hat has a business motive to support the
> Fedora community,
> if supporting Fedora was a pure act of charity then I think organizations
> like the Red Cross
> or Unicef would have a much better chance of g
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> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:28:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Another questionable dependency chain -- libreoffice-writer
> installs log4j-chainsaw
>
> On 30 January 2014 11:17, Aleksa
On Jan 29, 2014 11:24 PM, "Adam Williamson" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2014-01-29 at 18:17 -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>
> >
> > 1) Disk space. Disks are not cheap in the world of data-access ready
> > disks. The 4 TB SATAs sound nice but when you try serving FTP off them
> > you find that you have
Required By
apache-commons-logging
avalon-logkit
fop
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On Jan 29, 2014 11:13 PM, "Adam Williamson" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2014-01-29 at 16:33 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
>
> > > I'd rather not confuse what is made from Fedora bits with what is
> > > based on Fedora bits but includes other bits. The remix branding does
> > > not seem appropriate for spins tha
On 30 January 2014 11:29, piruthiviraj natarajan wrote:
> ...doesn't bode well for the packages that is not of interest to red hat.
I think you're misinterpreting the words of Christian. Red Hat (also
my employer, but speaking for myself here) can't and shouldn't be pay
to fix and QA spins like L
Hi all,
I'm going to build a new PackageKit snapshot into rawhide this
afternoon which will include a soname bump to libpackagekit-glib. All
the upstreams now do the right thing with #ifdefs (the new version has
been in jhbuild for a few months) and just need rebuilding. I'll take
care of the GNOM
On Jan 30, 2014 3:06 AM, "Frank Murphy" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 18:58:22 -0500
> Josh Boyer wrote:
>
> > I consider myself squarely in the middle of those two camps. I think
> > they have value to people. I think they fill a niche, however large
> > or small it might be. I also think th
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1059623
Petr Pisar changed:
What|Removed |Added
Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
Fixed In Version|
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Richard Hughes wrote:
>
> I think you're misinterpreting the words of Christian. Red Hat (also
> my employer, but speaking for myself here) can't and shouldn't be pay
> to fix and QA spins like LXDE or MATE. If keeping a MATE spin makes it
> harder or slower for t
I'm trying to get the bug #695589 from the package amavisd-new fixed.
I got an email from Steven in 2013-11-04 saying he was very busy and
didn't have his FAS login at hand, but I haven't got any news since
that.
The bug dates from 2011-04-12, and several attempts have been made to
contact Steven:
My statements was directly targeted at the often repeated attitude on this list
which
seems to be that Red Hat should shut up and pay for whatever the given poster
think should be payed
for without having any expectations or requirements of the Fedora community in
return.
The relationship betwe
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> Apologies for the slightly alarmist $SUBJECT, but I want to make sure
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>
> During today's FESCo meeting, there was the start of a discussion on
> how to approve new P
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>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:28:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Another questionable dependency chain -- libreoffice-writer
> installs log4j-chainsaw
>
> On 30 January 2014 11:17, Aleksa
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> My statements was directly targeted at the often repeated attitude on this
> list which
> seems to be that Red Hat should shut up and pay for whatever the given poster
> think should be payed
> for without having any expectations or requirements of the Fedora communit
Dne 30.1.2014 13:08, Christian Schaller napsal(a):
My statements was directly targeted at the often repeated attitude on this list
which
seems to be that Red Hat should shut up and pay for whatever the given poster
think should be payed
for without having any expectations or requirements of the
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> And we call these spins now.
>
> > , but I do also see that there are legal and
> > administrative reasons for why that could be a bad idea, but I am sure
> that
> > with
> > some discussion and investigation there are solutions that can b
On 01/30/2014 12:08 PM, Christian Schaller wrote:
My statements was directly targeted at the often repeated attitude on this list
which
seems to be that Red Hat should shut up and pay for whatever the given poster
think should be payed
for without having any expectations or requirements of the
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>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Jaroslav Reznik < jrez...@redhat.com >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> And we call these spins now.
>
> > , but I do also see that there are legal and
> > administrative reasons for why that could be a bad idea, but I am sure that
> > with
> >
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I don't use zygrib anymore. New owner is welcomed!
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Aleksandar Kurtakov writes:
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Richard Hughes"
>> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:28:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: Another questionable dependency chain -- libreoffice-writer
>> installs log4j-chainsaw
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>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:25:10 PM
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On 01/30/2014 12:28 PM, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On 30 January 2014 11:17, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
>> Clarification the actual chain is
>>
>> java-headless->rhino->jline->jansi->hawtjni->xbean->avalon-framework->log4j
>
> Ahh, thanks for working that one out. Java isn't my area of experti
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> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:34:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins
>
> - Original Message -
> > My statements was directly targeted at the
On 30 January 2014 12:48, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
> Some
> dependencies may be required only in some contexts, for example only for
> testing, or only when using that package to compile other packages.
I think not-installed-by-default subpackages are the solution here.
Richard
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I can do better, I can provide you with one of these people to look at.
If you send me your postal address I will send you a mirror :)
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> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:39:11 PM
> Subjec
On 01/30/2014 12:57 PM, Christian Schaller wrote:
I can do better, I can provide you with one of these people to look at.
If you send me your postal address I will send you a mirror:)
Oh a funny man after this insult put up and point me to those post or
shut up.
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> - Original Message -
> > From: "Jaroslav Reznik"
> > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
> >
> > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:25:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > > -
On 01/30/2014 01:56 PM, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On 30 January 2014 12:48, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
>> Some
>> dependencies may be required only in some contexts, for example only for
>> testing, or only when using that package to compile other packages.
>
> I think not-installed-by-default subpack
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 07:08:16AM -0500, Christian Schaller wrote:
> The relationship between Red Hat and Fedora is very different from that of
> for instance Debian and Ubuntu,
> with Red Hat being a lot more directly involved in both contributing to
> Fedora and paying for the
> general upkeep
On 01/29/2014 09:32 AM, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
> Hey,
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 09:21:22AM -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
>> I've switched to rawhide yesterday, and discovered that vinagre now
>> forces rsyslog onto my system. That's not great.
>>
>> The dependency chain goes something like th
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:15:56 +0100
Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> Personally I always felt that this symbiotic relationship was a big
> part of
> > what made Fedora interesting.
>
> Yes, but please don't paint Red Hat bussiness goals as "Fedora
> community goals". There is some intersection, but not
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:15:56 +0100
> Tomasz Torcz wrote:
>
> > Personally I always felt that this symbiotic relationship was a big
> > part of
> > > what made Fedora interesting.
> >
> > Yes, but please don't paint Red Hat bussiness goals
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:59:44 +0100
Johannes Lips wrote:
> Well, but it's not only about money and a lot of contributors use
> their spare time to contribute, so I wouldn't stress this money thing
> too much.
>
I didn't introduce the money angle,
just putting into Common language,
what has been
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 08:30:36AM -0500, Cole Robinson wrote:
> Thanks Christophe! Can you (or elmarco, or alevy), forward that to qemu-devel?
Done:
https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2014-01/msg04164.html
Christophe
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On 01/30/2014 02:02 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:59:44 +0100
Johannes Lips wrote:
Well, but it's not only about money and a lot of contributors use
their spare time to contribute, so I wouldn't stress this money thing
too much.
I didn't introduce the money angle,
just putt
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 12:44:20 +, Pavel Zhukov wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I don't use zygrib anymore. New owner is welcomed!
According to the activity in koji, there has been an active owner for
a longer time already.
Apparently, it's named "zyGrib" and an example where the mixed case
causes conf
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:46:37 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 12:44:20 +, Pavel Zhukov wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I don't use zygrib anymore. New owner is welcomed!
>
> According to the activity in koji, there has been an active owner for
> a longer time already.
Oh
2014-01-30 Johannes Lips :
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:15:56 +0100
>> Tomasz Torcz wrote:
>>
>> > Personally I always felt that this symbiotic relationship was a big
>> > part of
>> > > what made Fedora interesting.
>> >
>> > Yes, bu
The lightweight tag 'perl-Event-1.21-2.el7' was created pointing to:
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Christian Schaller píše v Čt 30. 01. 2014 v 05:40 -0500:
> The difference here is that the resources for GNOME (or anything else Red Hat
> needs for future versions of RHEL) are
> provided by Red Hat. So if you want the spins to the logically the same in
> terms of resources we should start dema
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ad5e605... 0.112 bump (*)
9ddc3a6... 0.113 bump (*)
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On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 04:09:11PM +0100, Robert Mayr wrote:
> 2014-01-30 Johannes Lips :
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:15:56 +0100
> >> Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> >>
> >> > Personally I always felt that this symbiotic relationshi
I disagree about keeping spins around in the long term.
Current spins:
* hinders our communication (each spin is supposed to get proper coverage
from marketing, ambassadors etc.), some users think that actually
installing KDE requires reinstalling from the spin !
* prevents spins with a striving c
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 05:10:39PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> Planned Outage: Fedocal outage for update - 2014-01-30 10:30 UTC
>
> There will be an outage starting at 2014-01-30 10:30 UTC, which will last
> approximately 1 hours, possibly less.
>
> To convert UTC to your local time, take
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Nilamdyuti Goswami wrote:
> What seems to do the trick is
>
> http://support.transifex.com/customer/portal/articles/1188235-comments-on-source-strings
> one can comment a string (to all translators, but in the language he
> choose), and event report an issue for hi
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On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 02:22:59PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>
> On 01/30/2014 02:02 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> >On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:59:44 +0100
> >Johannes Lips wrote:
> >
> >>Well, but it's not only about money and a lot of contributors use
> >>their spare time to contribute, so I
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> So let's not start by putting too much sacred value on the term
> "Spin." Rather, let's think about what specific technical and
> community-building problems are caused by using Remixes, how to solve
> them, and then consider that effort o
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On 01/29/2014 03:30 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> Apologies for the slightly alarmist $SUBJECT, but I want to make
> sure that this gets read by the appropriate groups.
>
> During today's FESCo meeting, there was the start of a discussion
> on how to
Hi
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>
> That being said, as we go forward as Fedora.NEXT, we start to see more
> clearly defined divisions between Products, Spins and Remixes. Since
> these discussions needed to happen, we (FESCo) felt it was best to try
> to move the c
Rahul Sundaram píše v Čt 30. 01. 2014 v 11:06 -0500:
> Hi
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>
> That being said, as we go forward as Fedora.NEXT, we start to
> see more
> clearly defined divisions between Products, Spins and Remixes.
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Tom Hughes wrote:
> The roles stuff? I have, though I'm not sure if I just failing to get it
> or something but I don't see anything there that looks especially useful to
> a server administrator.
>
> Other than pulling in a group of packages it's not really clear
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > This doesn't mean I'm against doing Big Exciting New Things in general
> > or Fedora.next in particular, but I do want to stand up for the value of
> > just keeping your head down (hah, I know, Adam, practice what you
> > preach) and doing
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 09:58:51AM -0600, inode0 wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > So let's not start by putting too much sacred value on the term
> > "Spin." Rather, let's think about what specific technical and
> > community-building problems are caused by usi
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:35:54 +0100
H. Guémar wrote:
> but they won't get coverage from
> marketing and ambassadors
Please don't include me in that,
I will always talk about
Fedora supplied Xfce to all who will listen.
and supply said media to those that ask, if I can.
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On Thu, 2014-01-30 at 06:42 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > jwb has tried to characterize this as an 'opportunity' for spins,
> but I
> > really don't think that washes. It's much more a case of us dumping
> a
> > whole lot of extra work onto any who wants to maintain a spin:
> >
> > * Get a domain
>
On 01/30/2014 05:06 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
That being said, as we go forward as Fedora.NEXT, we start to see more
clearly defined divisions between Products, Spins and Remixes. Since
these discussions needed to happe
The Board was recently notified of a serious violation of our Code of
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On 30/01/14 03:45 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> The 'burden' they create on QA is precisely zero, as we explicitly do
> not block releases on spins other than desktop and KDE. I don't believe
> releng considers the spins much of a burden, either - it's more just
> that they don't like building and pu
On Thu, 2014-01-30 at 06:45 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> QA does no testing of spins at all? If that's the case then I
> misunderstood. If QA does test, even if they don't block the release,
> it takes time and effort.
No testing of spins is required on the part of QA. People who contribute
to
Jiri Eischmann (eischm...@redhat.com) said:
> > That being said, as we go forward as Fedora.NEXT, we start to
> > see more
> > clearly defined divisions between Products, Spins and Remixes.
> > Since
> > these discussions needed to happen, we (FESCo) felt it
On Thu, 2014-01-30 at 11:17 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2014-01-30 at 06:45 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
>
> > QA does no testing of spins at all? If that's the case then I
> > misunderstood. If QA does test, even if they don't block the release,
> > it takes time and effort.
>
> No t
On Thu, 2014-01-30 at 14:53 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Jiri Eischmann (eischm...@redhat.com) said:
> > > That being said, as we go forward as Fedora.NEXT, we start to
> > > see more
> > > clearly defined divisions between Products, Spins and Remixes.
> > > Sinc
Am 30.01.2014 15:22, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson:
> On 01/30/2014 02:02 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:59:44 +0100
>> Johannes Lips wrote:
>>
>>> Well, but it's not only about money and a lot of contributors use
>>> their spare time to contribute, so I wouldn't stress this mo
On 30 January 2014 20:19, Reindl Harald wrote:
> fact is that Redhat
Pet peeve of mine: Please call Red Hat by it's proper name, or people
will start calling you Reindlharald.
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On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2014-01-30 at 14:53 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>> Jiri Eischmann (eischm...@redhat.com) said:
>> > > That being said, as we go forward as Fedora.NEXT, we start to
>> > > see more
>> > > clearly defined div
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:22 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote:
>
> On 01/30/2014 02:02 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:59:44 +0100
>> Johannes Lips wrote:
>>
>>> Well, but it's not only about money and a lot of contributors use
>>> their spare time to contribute, so I wouldn
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Blame me, I filed the original ticket. My concern was that we're (obviously)
> doing work in the Fedora.next space around:
>
> 1) the three products (workstation, server, cloud)
> 2) the base, which lives under them in some manner
> 3) env
Am 30.01.2014 21:23, schrieb Richard Hughes:
> On 30 January 2014 20:19, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> fact is that Redhat
>
> Pet peeve of mine: Please call Red Hat by it's proper name, or people
> will start calling you Reindlharald
besides that you know what i meant with my post and that language
On 01/29/2014 07:10 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
On 29 January 2014 23:58, Josh Boyer wrote:
I consider myself squarely in the middle of those two camps. I think
they have value to people. I think they fill a niche, however large
or small it might be. I also think they can be done by the people
wi
> You may have used this kind
> of thing - it tells you 'click this next' and waits until you do.
> As you might expect, googling for anything along these lines without
> having a very precise set of keywords only returns pages of tutorials.
> Any suggestions what to look for or, even better, tools
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Przemek Klosowski
wrote:
> On 01/29/2014 07:10 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
>
> On 29 January 2014 23:58, Josh Boyer wrote:
>
> I consider myself squarely in the middle of those two camps. I think
> they have value to people. I think they fill a niche, however large
>
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:00 AM, Juan Orti Alcaine
wrote:
> I'm trying to get the bug #695589 from the package amavisd-new fixed.
> I got an email from Steven in 2013-11-04 saying he was very busy and
> didn't have his FAS login at hand, but I haven't got any news since
> that.
>
> The bug dates f
Le jeudi 30 janvier 2014 à 12:28 -0800, Dan Mashal a écrit :
> In fact, why don't we take this to a vote instead of arguing about it
> on this list? Why don't make this a Fedora elections issue?
for the same reasons as usual, ie practical ones, like voting mean
deciding who vote, ie, only board,
On Thu, 2014-01-30 at 07:47 -0500, Christian Schaller wrote:
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Jaroslav Reznik"
> > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
> >
> > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:25:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins
> >
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 17:47:04 -0500
Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> On one hand, I am impressed by many spins as an excellent technology
> demonstration. On the other hand, what should existing users of a
> base Fedora do if they find an useful spin with a superior
> functionality? If its function is n
2014-01-31 Jon :
>
> In your case it's been years now waiting can you wait one more
> week to complete step five?
>
Sure I can.
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