Self Introduction

2013-08-28 Thread Jan Lieskovsky
Hello guys, I have recently joined the Red Hat Security Technologies Team, here in Brno, to help co-maintain pyOpenSSL and authconfig packages (besides other responsibilities in the team). I have previously worked for Red Hat Security Response Team, so some of you might know me already due to

Re: Changes to make MySQL vs. MariaDB less confusing

2013-08-28 Thread Norvald H. Ryeng
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 22:57:27 +0200, Ken Dreyer wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Norvald Ryeng wrote: If you want us to do more, please say so. We're happy to help out. Thanks for extending the offer. Would you mind commenting on the mysql-workbench issues too? As Remi's pointed o

Re: Self Introduction

2013-08-28 Thread Yohan Graterol
Hello Jan!! Congratulations!! Welcome to Fedora Community! :) On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Jan Lieskovsky wrote: > Hello guys, > > I have recently joined the Red Hat Security Technologies Team, > here in Brno, to help co-maintain pyOpenSSL and authconfig packages > (besides other responsi

Re: Why is AHCI built-in?

2013-08-28 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 08/28/2013 12:46 AM, poma wrote: > On 19.08.2013 20:46, Kyle McMartin wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 01:35:16PM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: >>> - What are the advantages of having the driver built-in, as compared to >>> simply ensuring that it's always included in the initramfs? >>> >> >> per

Dear Fedora Packagers!

2013-08-28 Thread Michael Schwendt
Dear Fedora Packagers, when renaming a package, _please_ verify that the Obsoletes tag you add to a package specifies a high enough version. Make sure the new package really replaces the last published build of the old package. Pay extra attention to our dist tag. It is part of the Release value.

Re: Comps Cleanup

2013-08-28 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 08/25/2013 01:17 AM, Till Maas wrote: > It seems that the following packages are stil mentioned in f20 or > f21 comps (I do not know which I checked) but are not in the i686 repo. > At least some of these packages are arch specific: > > ant-scripts ant-scripts fixed. Thanks, -- Mikolaj Izdeb

[RFC] Easiest making kernel rpms from upstream git

2013-08-28 Thread Igor Gnatenko
Today I've wrote article w/ many notes about bisecting kernel [0], but I've used make bzImage, make install and the same commands bypassing RPM and I have IMHO good idea to write utility, that will be build rpm w/o/ Fedora patches, changelogs, etc. simple rpms w/ one command. We will use "utilityn

Re: Graphics driver support in F21+

2013-08-28 Thread Basil Mohamed Gohar
On 08/27/2013 11:20 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 14:54 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > >> Is it not better to drop entirely graphics drivers that do not have kms >> support and at the *same time* adopt the policy >> >> "From this point forward only graphics driver that

Re: Dear Fedora Packagers!

2013-08-28 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Thanks for your interest. It is a reoccuring problem that both the rename > request submitter *and* the reviewer get the Obsoletes tags wrong. Perhaps the guidelines should be more clear, then. (No, I don't have a specific proposal.)

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-28)

2013-08-28 Thread Matthew Miller
[Sorry this is late -- should have sent yesterday. This is for _today_.] Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTC

Re: Graphics driver support in F21+

2013-08-28 Thread Solomon Peachy
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:13:09AM -0400, Basil Mohamed Gohar wrote: > Sorry to come out of left field like this, but would the system profile > info we collect on install be useful in determining the weight of the > need for some of these drivers? For example, if there is still a bunch > of SIS v

Builder update

2013-08-28 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I wanted to let everyone know that as of last night all of the buildvm builders were moved from RHEL 6 to Fedora 19. We do still have some rhel6 builders. Dennis -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.21 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAl

[Test-Announce] 2013-08-28 @ 16:00 UTC - F20 Alpha Blocker Bug Review #2

2013-08-28 Thread Tim Flink
# F20 Alpha Blocker Review meeting #2 # Date: 2013-08-28 # Time: 16:00 UTC (12:00 EDT, 09:00 PDT) # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net Apologies on the late announcement but it's time for the next exciting installment of "F20 alpha blocker bug review hour(s)" We'll be running th

EPEL pypy 2.1; sandbox, with shared library

2013-08-28 Thread Guo, Dan (WorldQuant)
Greeting, I just found out this list and subscribe to it. my subscription is new. Pypy2.1 is now released. I see repo has pypy 2.0.2 as latest. Can I request this is updated for 2.1? also, I wonder if someone has made shared library for pypy sandboxing, for 2.0.2. when I looked at it, it does n

Re: Why is AHCI built-in?

2013-08-28 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:46:31AM +0200, poma wrote: > Any links/docs to offer on this topic? > Thanks. > I don't have a link off-hand, but a book about computer architecture should let you figure things out: At what level of detail? The kernel attempts to map itself using 2MB pages on X86 wher

yum picking kernel-debug instead of kernel for 'BuildRequires: kernel'

2013-08-28 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
If two packages 'provide' the same dependency, isn't yum supposed to pick the one with the shortest name? Anyway, 'BuildRequires: kernel' in Rawhide (on koji) picks 'kernel-debug' instead of 'kernel'. Is there a way to make it pick 'kernel' instead? Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Grou

Re: Builder update

2013-08-28 Thread Jay Greguske
On 08/28/2013 10:42 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi all, > > I wanted to let everyone know that as of last night all of the buildvm > builders were moved from RHEL 6 to Fedora 19. We do still have some > rhel6 builders. > > Dennis > -BEGIN P

Re: Builder update

2013-08-28 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 08/28/2013 05:42 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I wanted to let everyone know that as of last night all of the buildvm builders were moved from RHEL 6 to Fedora 19. We do still have some rhel6 builders. Hum... a question, or perhaps more lik

Re: Builder update

2013-08-28 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 11:21:06 -0400 Jay Greguske wrote: > Are the buildvm builders the bare-metal image builders? No, as the name would suggest they are virtual instances. ;) The buildvmhosts are still rhel6, but the virtual instances/buildvm's are now Fedora 19 (to match up with the Fedora 19

Re: Builder update

2013-08-28 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 18:22:57 +0300 Panu Matilainen wrote: > Hum... a question, or perhaps more like two: > > Are you planning to move the remaining RHEL-6 builders to Fedora too, > and if so, is this (builders running on Fedora ~latest) going to be a > permament arrangement? Quite possibly. L

Re: Builder update

2013-08-28 Thread Colin Walters
I think the most practical thing is to build version N of self-hosting systems using version N-1 (in addition to supporting building N with N). If you are using the latest to build the latest, you can more easily get into unstable states. For example, if a new version of the Fedora kernel broke vi

Re: yum picking kernel-debug instead of kernel for 'BuildRequires: kernel'

2013-08-28 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 04:13:58PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > If two packages 'provide' the same dependency, isn't yum supposed to > pick the one with the shortest name? > > Anyway, 'BuildRequires: kernel' in Rawhide (on koji) picks > 'kernel-debug' instead of 'kernel'. Is there a way

Re: Builder update

2013-08-28 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 11:41:31 -0400 Colin Walters wrote: > I think the most practical thing is to build version N of self-hosting > systems using version N-1 (in addition to supporting building N with > N). If you are using the latest to build the latest, you can more > easily get into unstable st

Re: Dear Fedora Packagers!

2013-08-28 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 04:27:44PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Thanks for your interest. It is a reoccuring problem that both the rename > > request submitter *and* the reviewer get the Obsoletes tags wrong. > > Perhaps the guideline

Running a command in spec file?

2013-08-28 Thread Dave Johansen
I'm trying to make a spec file that uses the devtoolset in RHEL 5/6 ( rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2013-0175.html ) but I haven't been able to figure out how to enable devtoolset in the spec file. If I run 'scl enable devtoolset-1.1 bash' before doing rpmbuild it works, but how do I run a command lik

Re: Running a command in spec file?

2013-08-28 Thread Remi Collet
Le 28/08/2013 18:09, Dave Johansen a écrit : > I'm trying to make a spec file that uses the devtoolset in RHEL 5/6 ( > rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2013-0175.html ) but I haven't been able > to figure out how to enable devtoolset in the spec file. If I run 'scl > enable devtoolset-1.1 bash' before do

Re: Running a command in spec file?

2013-08-28 Thread Alec Leamas
On 2013-08-28 18:09, Dave Johansen wrote: I'm trying to make a spec file that uses the devtoolset in RHEL 5/6 ( rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2013-0175.html ) but I haven't been able to figure out how to enable devtoolset in the spec file. If I run 'scl enable devtoolset-1.1 bash' before doing rpmbu

Re: Graphics driver support in F21+

2013-08-28 Thread Basil Mohamed Gohar
On 08/28/2013 10:41 AM, Solomon Peachy wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:13:09AM -0400, Basil Mohamed Gohar wrote: >> Sorry to come out of left field like this, but would the system profile >> info we collect on install be useful in determining the weight of the >> need for some of these drivers?

Fedora ARM Weekly Status Meeting 2013-08-28

2013-08-28 Thread Paul Whalen
Good day all, Please join us today (Wednesday, August 28th) at 4PM EDT (8PM UTC) for the Fedora ARM weekly status meeting in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode. On the agenda so far.. 1) Problem packages 2) Kernel Status Update 3) Aarch64 - Status Update - Koji 4

Re: [RFC] Easiest making kernel rpms from upstream git

2013-08-28 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On 08/28/2013 07:23 PM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > Today I've wrote article w/ many notes about bisecting kernel [0], but > I've used make bzImage, make install and the same commands bypassing RPM > and I have IMHO good idea to write utility, that will be build rpm w/o/ > Fedora patches, changelogs, et

Re: Graphics driver support in F21+

2013-08-28 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2013-08-28 at 10:13 -0400, Basil Mohamed Gohar wrote: > Sorry to come out of left field like this, but would the system profile > info we collect on install be useful in determining the weight of the > need for some of these drivers? For example, if there is still a bunch > of SIS video a

Re: Running a command in spec file?

2013-08-28 Thread Dave Johansen
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Remi Collet wrote: > > Le 28/08/2013 18:09, Dave Johansen a écrit : > > I'm trying to make a spec file that uses the devtoolset in RHEL 5/6 ( > > rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2013-0175.html ) but I haven't been able > > to figure out how to enable devtoolset in the s

Re: Comps Cleanup

2013-08-28 Thread Kalev Lember
On 08/27/2013 07:52 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Kalev Lember (kalevlem...@gmail.com) said: >> I'd like to be able to commit to master, check out the f20 branch, and >> 'git cherry-pick master'. > > Is that really that much difference than git diff | sed | patch? I believe it is, yes. Relying on

Re: [RFC] Easiest making kernel rpms from upstream git

2013-08-28 Thread Igor Gnatenko
On Thu, 2013-08-29 at 00:01 +0530, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: > On 08/28/2013 07:23 PM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > > Today I've wrote article w/ many notes about bisecting kernel [0], but > > I've used make bzImage, make install and the same commands bypassing RPM > > and I have IMHO good idea to write u

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2013-08-29 16:00 UTC)

2013-08-28 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2013-08-29 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2013-08-29 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2013-08-29 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2013-08-29 1

[ACTION REQUIRED] Packages depending on retired packages

2013-08-28 Thread Till Maas
The following packages are currently retired but other packages depend on them. Since the packages are not yet blocked in koji, this is not very visible. Nevertheless, the packages need new maintainers or the depending packages need to drop dependencies on them. Remarks: - There are no recursive d

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Packages depending on retired packages

2013-08-28 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:53:53PM +0200, Till Maas wrote: > The following packages are currently retired but other packages depend > on them. Since the packages are not yet blocked in koji, this is not > very visible. Nevertheless, the packages need new maintainers or the > depending packages need

Fedora ARM Weekly Status Meeting Minutes 2013-08-28

2013-08-28 Thread Paul Whalen
Thanks to those that were able to join us for the status meeting today, for those unable the minutes are posted below: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-08-28/fedora-meeting-1.2013-08-28-20.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1

Re: [RFC] Easiest making kernel rpms from upstream git

2013-08-28 Thread Ian Malone
On 28 August 2013 14:53, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > Today I've wrote article w/ many notes about bisecting kernel [0], but > I've used make bzImage, make install and the same commands bypassing RPM > and I have IMHO good idea to write utility, that will be build rpm w/o/ > Fedora patches, changelogs,

Re: bisect on fedora kernels

2013-08-28 Thread Ian Malone
> On 20 August 2013 13:50, Josh Boyer wrote: >> >> That shouldn't really be an issue for the most part. It would only >> impact you if you're hitting issues in an area where the config >> options differ between releases, and those are fairly uncommon. You >> can try using koji bisect to start w

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2013-08-29 16:00 UTC)

2013-08-28 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 04:26:58PM -0400, James Antill wrote: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC > meeting Thursday at 2013-08-29 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on > irc.freenode.net. > > Local time information (via. rktime): > > 2013-08-29 09:00 Thu US/Pacific

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Packages depending on retired packages

2013-08-28 Thread Peter Robinson
> python-quantumclient orphan, jruzicka, vaneldik, pbrady, apevec, gkotton, >markmc, rkukura > Depending on: python-quantumclient > openstack-quantum (maintained by: rkukura, itamarjp, otherwiseguy, > mmagr, josecastroleon, vaneldik, pbrady, rackerjoe, apevec, chri

Re: Why is AHCI built-in?

2013-08-28 Thread poma
On 28.08.2013 16:57, Kyle McMartin wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:46:31AM +0200, poma wrote: >> Any links/docs to offer on this topic? >> Thanks. >> > > I don't have a link off-hand, but a book about computer architecture > should let you figure things out: > > At what level of detail? The k

Re: Why is AHCI built-in?

2013-08-28 Thread poma
On 28.08.2013 15:14, Michal Schmidt wrote: > On 08/28/2013 12:46 AM, poma wrote: >> On 19.08.2013 20:46, Kyle McMartin wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 01:35:16PM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: - What are the advantages of having the driver built-in, as compared to simply ensuring that it'

Re: F20 System Wide Change: Web Assets

2013-08-28 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > Where's the code? The github link seems to be broken. Sorry for the delay on that. The code is now here: https://github.com/tchollingsworth/ttname And it's already in Rawhide, F20, and F18-19 updates-testing. See the announcement here

Re: bisect on fedora kernels

2013-08-28 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Ian Malone wrote: >> On 20 August 2013 13:50, Josh Boyer wrote: > >>> >>> That shouldn't really be an issue for the most part. It would only >>> impact you if you're hitting issues in an area where the config >>> options differ between releases, and those are fai

Re: [RFC] Easiest making kernel rpms from upstream git

2013-08-28 Thread Robin Lee
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > Today I've wrote article w/ many notes about bisecting kernel [0], but > I've used make bzImage, make install and the same commands bypassing RPM > and I have IMHO good idea to write utility, that will be build rpm w/o/ > Fedora patches, chan

[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Alpha Test Compose 2 (TC2) Available Now!

2013-08-28 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit DVDs, the 32- and 64-bit Desktop Lives, the 32-bit MATE and Security Spins, and the 64-bit LXDE and MATE Spins are over their respective size targets. As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Alpha Test Compose 2 (TC2) is now available for testing. Content information,

Re: [RFC] Easiest making kernel rpms from upstream git

2013-08-28 Thread Igor Gnatenko
On Thu, 2013-08-29 at 10:29 +0800, Robin Lee wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Igor Gnatenko > wrote: > > > Today I've wrote article w/ many notes about bisecting kernel [0], but > > I've used make bzImage, make install and the same commands bypassing RPM > > and I have IMHO good idea to w

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Packages depending on retired packages

2013-08-28 Thread Till Maas
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:32:19AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > python-quantumclient orphan, jruzicka, vaneldik, pbrady, apevec, gkotton, > >markmc, rkukura > > Depending on: python-quantumclient > > openstack-quantum (maintained by: rkukura, itamarjp, otherwis

Re: Builder update

2013-08-28 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 08/28/2013 06:35 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 18:22:57 +0300 Panu Matilainen wrote: Hum... a question, or perhaps more like two: Are you planning to move the remaining RHEL-6 builders to Fedora too, and if so, is this (builders running on Fedora ~latest) going to be a permame

Announcing Design Software

2013-08-28 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Design software is a special interest group intended to package and maintain software for design team. It was born to fill the need to include design related tools unavailable in Fedora repository. The following mission is to - Maintain the Design group in the comps.xml, - Promote more the Desi

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Packages depending on retired packages

2013-08-28 Thread Till Maas
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 07:56:28AM +0200, Till Maas wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:32:19AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > python-quantumclient orphan, jruzicka, vaneldik, pbrady, apevec, > > > gkotton, > > >markmc, rkukura > > > Depending on: python-quantumclient

Re: bisect on fedora kernels

2013-08-28 Thread Ian Malone
On 29 August 2013 01:53, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Ian Malone wrote: >> Just to follow up, thanks, your instructions for building worked fine >> (I'd worried it wouldn't be so straightforward). Thought I'd best >> mention koji-bisect doesn't seem to exist anymore (in c