On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 02:17:28PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 07/12/2013 12:08 PM, David Tardon wrote:
> >>I dont argue that this should be a blocker for architectures quite
> >>>the opposite as far as I see it the only requirement for an
> >>>architecture to be come a "primary" ( t
commit c7df086032116a9ab0091e4d97c6a555ca92c703
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- Original Message -
> I thought I recall reading a plan about kde moving to lightdm at one
> point?
>
> Perhaps you could mention the reasons SSDM was decided over lightdm-qt?
Not up to date comparison -
http://aseigo.blogspot.cz/2013/03/logging-into-plasma-workspaces-2.html
Martin know
= Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Syslog =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslog
Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering , Matthew
Miller
No longer install a traditional syslog service by default. (Specifically,
remove rsyslog from the @core or @standard groups in comps.)
= Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSendmail
Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering , Matthew
Miller
No longer install an MTA by default. (Specifically let's remove sendmail from
@core and @standard comps groups.)
== Detailed descr
The various tools (such as cron) which previously required a local MTA for
operation have been updated already to deliver their job output to syslog
rather than sendmail, which is a good default.
syslog or the journal? Wouldn't the journal make more sense because of
spoof protection and and th
Matthew Miller píše v Pá 12. 07. 2013 v 23:24 -0400:
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 12:53:23PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > "What do we talk about when we talk about Fedora?" :)
> > Well, we just did a major release. Go look on news.google.com for
> > "Fedora 19", or search for "Fedora 19 review",
On 07/11/2013 03:33 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 04:01:15PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>>> That's the point. You don't get to be a primary architecture until
>>> you've demonstrated that doing so won't slow down th
On 07/15/2013 10:44 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Syslog =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslog
Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering , Matthew
Miller
No longer install a traditional syslog service by default. (Specifically,
remove rsyslog
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> On 07/15/2013 10:44 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>>
>> = Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Syslog =
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslog
>>
>> Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering , Matthew
>> Miller
>>
>> No longer
On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:44:44 +0200
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> = Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Syslog =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslog
>
> Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering ,
> Matthew Miller
>
> No longer install a traditional syslog service by default.
> (S
= Proposed System Wide Change: SSD cache =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SSD_cache
Change owner(s): Rolf Fokkens
Using recent kernel (3.9 and later) features for (fast) SSD caching of (slow)
ordinary hard disks.
== Detailed description ==
Recent Linux kernels support the use of Solid
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Role based access control with libvirt =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Virt_ACLs
Change owner(s): Daniel P. Berrange , Cole Robinson
Allow role based access control with libvirt.
== Detailed description ==
Libvirt role based access control will allo
= Proposed System Wide Change: Visible Cloud =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/VisibleCloud
Change owner(s): Matthew Miller
With Fedora 19's First Class Cloud Images feature [1], we have Amazon EC2 and
downloadable cloud images (in qcow2 and raw.xz format) produced and released
together
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:22:22PM +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> = Proposed System Wide Change: Visible Cloud =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/VisibleCloud
>
> Change owner(s): Matthew Miller
>
> With Fedora 19's First Class Cloud Images feature [1], we have Amazon EC2 and
> downloa
On 07/15/2013 11:22 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:44:44 +0200
> Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>
>> = Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Syslog =
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslog
>>
>> Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering ,
>> Matthew Miller
>>
>> No longe
Greetings!
The Change Proposals Submission deadline is tomorrow, 2013-07-16 [1]. Please
send your proposals for Wrangler's review (to be announced asap) and help us
to coordinate Fedora 20 release! The final schedule will be based on the needs
of accepted Changes.
See How to's on https://fedora
On 07/15/2013 11:14 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
This doesn't stop you from having a traditional syslog service, it's
just not installed in the desktop spins by default. "yum install
rsyslog" will continue to provide you the status quo.
Yes, I know. But I spoke about *default*. I would like to hav
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On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:22:22PM +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> downloadable cloud images (in qcow2 and raw.xz format) produced and released
I know that it is convenient to expose qcow2 images uncompressed so
users are able to upload them directly into clouds via httpd. Qcow2 is
compressed alr
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On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 01:04:00PM +0200, Miroslav Suchy wrote:
> Yes, I know. But I spoke about *default*. I would like to have
> traditional syslog as default.
But that does not follow the concept systemd is taking. You are voting
against this feature proposal then I guess :-)
--
Later,
Luka
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在 2013-7-11 AM4:43，"Richard W.M. Jones" 写道：
> I appreciate that some people cannot or don't want to buy hardware,
> but if you did have roughly $300 available, then you should probably
> get the Oct 2012 Samsung Chromebook or the Arndale development board.
> The Chromebook has the advantage IMHO th
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Sérgio Basto wrote:
On Qui, 2013-07-11 at 12:49 +0400, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:
Sérgio Basto wrote:
On Qui, 2013-07-04 at 16:47 +0400, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:
Starting with 1.6 version of pkgdiff if you compare debug packages
and
add --details option on the command line then the tool will
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 15:26:14 +0200, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
BTW, I have some more multi-seat hardware to give away to folks who want
to add true automatic multi-seat to stuff like display managers.
It's a USB box that will give you an VGA/DVI port + audio, plus
connectors for kbd/mouse. S
On 07/10/2013 08:00 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
Oops as noted by jreznik, this thread took a brief detour onto the docs list
by mistake.
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:47:30AM -0400, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "Toshio Kuratomi"
To: "For participants of the Document
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On Mon, 15.07.13 11:11, Miroslav Suchý (msu...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On 07/15/2013 10:44 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> >= Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Syslog =
> >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslog
> >
> >Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering , Matthew
> >Miller
> >
> >
- Original Message -
> On 07/10/2013 08:00 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> >
> > Oops as noted by jreznik, this thread took a brief detour onto the docs
> > list
> > by mistake.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:47:30AM -0400, Robyn Bergeron wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
To add to this article, there are some bits in the Documentation part of
the change proposal.
Some information is already obsolete though because of fast pace of
development of SDDM.
To conclude, the main reasons are the CLA which is a participation blocker
for many people and better outlook
On Mon, 15.07.13 10:14, Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> > On 07/15/2013 10:44 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> >>
> >> = Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Syslog =
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslo
commit 760f0338eadacc705244c4a570060ed2992e9f2a
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Date: Mon Jul 15 13:24:04 2013 +0200
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On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 22:00:58 +0200, Adam Williamson
wrote:
Fine, but can we please have this done *soon*? Ideally, the packages
could already have been created in Rawhide long ago, and this would be a
swap. But please at least have it in place for Alpha TC1. It's a pain
dealing with DM change
On Mon, 15.07.13 12:44, Jan Synacek (jsyna...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On 07/15/2013 11:22 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:44:44 +0200
> > Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> >
> >> = Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Syslog =
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslog
On Mon, 15.07.13 10:52, Florian Weimer (fwei...@redhat.com) wrote:
> >The various tools (such as cron) which previously required a local MTA for
> >operation have been updated already to deliver their job output to syslog
> >rather than sendmail, which is a good default.
>
> syslog or the journal
On Mon, 15.07.13 13:17, Martin Briza (mbr...@redhat.com) wrote:
> >BTW, I have some more multi-seat hardware to give away to folks who want
> >to add true automatic multi-seat to stuff like display managers.
> >
> >It's a USB box that will give you an VGA/DVI port + audio, plus
> >connectors for k
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Author: Petr Písař
Date: Mon Jul 15 13:34:35 2013 +0200
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On 11. 7. 2013 at 12:59:42, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 16:38 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> > >> = Proposed Self Contained Change: Application Installer =
> > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AppInstaller
> > >>
> > >> To improve some problematic aspects of the updates
On 12. 7. 2013 at 11:33:19, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> > I haven't seen Toshio's mail, so I apologize for possible redundancy:
> Yeah, sorry, I got caught in the replying-to-docs-list trap. here's
> what I had written (mostly the same as you
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On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 01:06:26PM +0200, Lukas Zapletal wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:22:22PM +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> > downloadable cloud images (in qcow2 and raw.xz format) produced and
> > released
>
> I know that it is convenient to expose qcow2 images uncompressed so
> users
- Original Message -
> > Yes, if you want to put it that way. We want to use a backend that can
> > supported the desired user experience.
> >
> > The hawkey stack is groomed to replace yum anyway. All we're asking is
> > that we can use it early, so we can provide the testing exposure the
On 2013-07-15 12:56, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Proposed System Wide Change: SSD cache =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SSD_cache
One thing I would recommend would be to correctly detect SSD:
ATM, I installed my Fedora over an SSD and it did not ajust the mount
settings nor suggest an ap
On 07/15/2013 07:42 AM, David Tardon wrote:
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 02:17:28PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 07/12/2013 12:08 PM, David Tardon wrote:
I dont argue that this should be a blocker for architectures quite
the opposite as far as I see it the only requirement for an
archit
commit d3581c657cc71f1feffe184ad13996ad06e9db57
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Adam Williamson píše v St 10. 07. 2013 v 14:35 -0700:
> On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 09:51 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:02:24 +0200
> > Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> >
> > > = Proposed Self Contained Change: Application Installer =
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AppInsta
On 07/15/2013 01:47 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
Updating to qcow2 to support xz (or some other algo) as a built-in
compression choice would likely give better results.
Is the compressed image still seekable? If yes, that constrains the
window/block size and limits the gains from switching c
On 07/02/2013 05:30 PM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
Hi,
I plan to retire package spacewalk-admin in epel, because it requires
spacewalk-base
perl(RHN::SatelliteCert)
which are not in epel.
And I plan to retire
spacewalk-web
in both Fedora and Epel, because it require perl(Spacewalk::
Hi list,
package sox contains bundled lpc10 library. License of lpc10 is unknown
to me and unknown to sox upstream. Probably nobody (probably including
lpc10 authors) bothered too much about licensing.
My questions:
- Does anyone know its licensing status or original developers? Andy
J. Fin
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 01:55:18PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 07/15/2013 01:47 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >Updating to qcow2 to support xz (or some other algo) as a built-in
> >compression choice would likely give better results.
>
> Is the compressed image still seekable? If yes, tha
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= Proposed Self Contained Change: Ruby on Rails 4.0 =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby_on_Rails_4.0
Change owner(s): Vít Ondruch , Josef Stříbný
, ruby-...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Ruby on Rails 4.0 is the latest version of well know web framework written in
Ruby.
== Detailed descr
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On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 01:55:18PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 07/15/2013 01:47 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >Updating to qcow2 to support xz (or some other algo) as a built-in
> >compression choice would likely give better results.
>
> Is the compressed image still seekable? If yes, tha
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On 07/15/2013 01:08 PM, Lukas Zapletal wrote:
You are voting
against this feature proposal then I guess:-)
Yes.
--
Miroslav Suchy
Red Hat, Software Engineer
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Compose started at Mon Jul 15 08:15:02 UTC 2013
Broken deps for x86_64
--
[CCfits]
CCfits-2.4-8.fc20.i686 requires libcfitsio-3.340.so.0
CCfits-2.4-8.fc20.x86_64 requires libcfitsio-3.340.so.0()(64bit)
[MUMPS]
MUMPS-4.
On 07/15/2013 01:23 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
But anyway, I'd still like to hear the technical reasoning for the
opinion you expressed.
Because you are able to read txt file with *anything*. But you are not
always able to read binary files. Because journalctl is not available.
Example fr
> >Shouldn't updates-testing be taken into account by the Upgradepath test?
>
> Probably only for stuff that is part of the same update. Otherwise there
> is no guaranty that both will be released at the same time.
Exactly. Also see 2) in
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AutoQA_tests/Upgradepath#Fi
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Developer Assistant GUI =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DeveloperAssistantGUI
Change owner(s): Petr Hracek , Bohuslav Kabrda
The feature aims to provide GUI for devassistant package.
== Detailed description ==
This feature aims to provide GUI frontend
> Because you are able to read txt file with *anything*. But you are not
> always able to read binary files. Because journalctl is not available.
It's true that if you want to debug/fix your Fedora system from a LiveCD, and
the only available LiveCD you have around is a non-systemd distribution,
= Proposed Self Contained Change: SSSD CIFS plugin =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SSSD_CIFS_plugin
Change owner(s): Sumit Bose , Jakub Hrozek
During the F20 development cycle, the SSSD will provide an ID-mapping plugin
for cifs-utils so that Windows SIDs can be mapped onto POSIX IDs
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> = Proposed System Wide Change: SSD cache =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SSD_cache
>
> Change owner(s): Rolf Fokkens
>
> Using recent kernel (3.9 and later) features for (fast) SSD caching of (slow)
> ordinary hard disks.
>
> ==
First, file a BZ against sox for tracking and block FE-LEGAL. Then include
what you've got here. If the licensing is unclear and cannot be
determined, lpc10 will have to be removed (modified tarball) and sox
rebuilt without it. It might be difficult to determine usage, as it
appears it's shipped
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On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 09:17:56AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> > = Proposed System Wide Change: SSD cache =
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SSD_cache
>
> > Release engineering: All packages should operate in close harmony te make
Le Lun 15 juillet 2013 13:23, Lennart Poettering a écrit :
> On Mon, 15.07.13 11:11, Miroslav Suchý (msu...@redhat.com) wrote:
> Hence, the choice between "journal by default + syslog optional" and
> "journal optional + syslog by default" does not exist. The choice
> between "journal by default +
= Proposed Self Contained Change: GNOME 3.10 =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Gnome3.10
Change owner(s): Matthias Clasen and the desktop SIG
Update GNOME to the latest upstream release.
== Detailed description ==
The highlights of GNOME 3.10 include
* A new maps applications: gnome-map
On Mon, 15.07.13 14:46, Miroslav Suchý (msu...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On 07/15/2013 01:23 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >But anyway, I'd still like to hear the technical reasoning for the
> >opinion you expressed.
>
> Because you are able to read txt file with *anything*. But you are
> not always
On Mon, 15.07.13 15:34, Nicolas Mailhot (nicolas.mail...@laposte.net) wrote:
>
> Le Lun 15 juillet 2013 13:23, Lennart Poettering a écrit :
> > On Mon, 15.07.13 11:11, Miroslav Suchý (msu...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> > Hence, the choice between "journal by default + syslog optional" and
> > "journa
Le Lun 15 juillet 2013 15:39, Lennart Poettering a écrit :
> On Mon, 15.07.13 15:34, Nicolas Mailhot (nicolas.mail...@laposte.net)
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Le Lun 15 juillet 2013 13:23, Lennart Poettering a écrit :
>> > On Mon, 15.07.13 11:11, Miroslav Suchý (msu...@redhat.com) wrote:
>>
>> > Hence, the c
On Seg, 2013-07-15 at 10:36 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> = Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSendmail
>
> Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering , Matthew
> Miller
>
> No longer install an MTA by default. (Specifically let's re
On Mon, 15.07.13 15:42, Nicolas Mailhot (nicolas.mail...@laposte.net) wrote:
> > Any references to open bugs about this?
>
> not really, since one of the things I've not figured out yet is how to get
> reliable logs of late shutdown stages
See:
http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debug
On Seg, 2013-07-15 at 15:16 +0400, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:
> Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > On Qui, 2013-07-11 at 12:49 +0400, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:
> >> Sérgio Basto wrote:
> >>> On Qui, 2013-07-04 at 16:47 +0400, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:
> Starting with 1.6 version of pkgdiff if you compare
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> On Seg, 2013-07-15 at 10:36 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>> = Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail =
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSendmail
>>
>> Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering , Matthew
>> Miller
>>
>>
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commit 81c92d2ce762b87d8bcb267388f4fb1cb8e40a3b
Author: Paul Howarth
Date: Mon Jul 15 15:09:48 2013 +0100
Update to 0.07
- New upstream release 0.07
- Require Test::Fatal ≥ 0.006 to avoid test failures (CPAN RT#76809)
- Explicitly run author tests, except for EL builds
On Mon, 15.07.13 14:45, Sérgio Basto (ser...@serjux.com) wrote:
> > Other developers: logwatch/logcheck might need updating to not require an
> > MTA
> > for delivering log changes. Some packages might need a dependency on
> > "server(smtp)" added.
>
> I'd like understand how cronjobs deliver
On Mon, 15.07.13 15:05, Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) wrote:
> >> Proposal owners: Commit a change to "comps" to remove "sendmail" from it.
> >>
> >> Other developers: logwatch/logcheck might need updating to not require an
> >> MTA
> >> for delivering log changes. Some packages might nee
2013/7/15 Lennart Poettering
> [...]
>
>
Well, assuming that bash is entirely in memory. And also, note that
> neither cat, nor cp, nor tail are actually bash builtins and will not
> work. It's pretty hard (though certainly possible) viewing files with
> just bash builtins.
>
echo $(< /var/log/
The lightweight tag 'perl-Test-Warnings-0.008-1.fc20' was created pointing to:
cb57569... Update to 0.008
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On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby
wrote:
> One thing I would recommend would be to correctly detect SSD:
> ATM, I installed my Fedora over an SSD and it did not ajust the mount
> settings nor suggest an appropriate setting for the SSD.
> If we can at least detect SSD and sug
On 07/13/2013 01:44 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
please take a look at this
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=982740#c12
what do we do in the future to disable ipv6 entirely
and why is "ipv6.disable=1" as kernel param at least
with 3.10.0-1.fc20.x86_64 on F19?
Back in 2011 the preferred
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby
> wrote:
>> One thing I would recommend would be to correctly detect SSD:
>> ATM, I installed my Fedora over an SSD and it did not ajust the mount
>> settings nor suggest an appropri
+1 - same here. You're far from being alone.
I'm still trying to get used to the new systemd in Fedora and still trying
to think why I need it. Altogether for my day to day use I find it as added
complexity with no real benefit cerca f15.
Unix/Linux for me is the simplicity of text files. If I lo
On Seg, 2013-07-15 at 10:36 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> Most MUAs we ship (especially those we install by default) do not
> deliver to a
> local MTA anyway but rather include an SMTP client. Usually, they will
> not
> pick up mail delivered to local users. This means that unless the user
> kn
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:49:21AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 07/15/2013 07:42 AM, David Tardon wrote:
> >On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 02:17:28PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >>On 07/12/2013 12:08 PM, David Tardon wrote:
> >
> >>I still think...
> >>
> >>We should limit the nu
On 07/15/2013 03:37 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
But anyway, this is quite anecdotal.
I was not laughing when I was on site.
If you are working on some computer game, you can target 90 % of
available audience. Or even if pulse audio will work for 99 % of user,
then it is fine.
But these c
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On 15. 7. 2013 at 07:47:06, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> - Original Message -
>
> > > Yes, if you want to put it that way. We want to use a backend that can
> > > supported the desired user experience.
> > >
> > > The hawkey stack is groomed to replace yum anyway. All we're asking is
> > > th
Am 15.07.2013 16:44, schrieb Michal Schmidt:
> On 07/13/2013 01:44 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> please take a look at this
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=982740#c12
>>
>> what do we do in the future to disable ipv6 entirely
>> and why is "ipv6.disable=1" as kernel param at least
>>
For the record: this is my last reply in this thread. I have better
things to do...
D.
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On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 16:55 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 15.07.2013 16:44, schrieb Michal Schmidt:
> > On 07/13/2013 01:44 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> >> please take a look at this
> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=982740#c12
> >>
> >> what do we do in the future to disable ipv
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Ouch:
68bb5cfdc6d41d5b9303560ff1650c3f Ouch-0.0403.tar.gz
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commit b091291dc7e9bb6791b2c90a5c9511487b34f9cb
Author: Petr Šabata
Date: Mon Jul 15 17:15:41 2013 +0200
0.0403, documentation typo fixes
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perl-Ouch.spec |5 -
sources|2 +-
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