Re: Packaging directory in /mnt - how to do so?

2013-05-08 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 09:34:15AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 05/07/2013 09:14 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > >Hey list, > > > > In the course of review of owfs (#927237) I was pointed that > >shipping directory in /mnt is prohibited. FHS seems to agree. > > > > owfs is suite of prog

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-08 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 09:51:22AM -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On 05/04/2013 12:30 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 11:24:01PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: > >>Matthew, with all due respect the tone of the bug doesn't make me think > >>that there is a lot of interest in dis

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-08 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 12:03:39AM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: > Anaconda has a pretty special place in this project. It is the > uber-administrator of every new Fedora install. We would do better > as a community to hash out major changes before they're made, and > try to reach some agreement bef

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-08 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 09:03:02PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote: > Let's be realistic here. The precedence they have recently set is they > make decisions and if you don't like it "too bad". Even if that is true, what is your point? -- Regards, Olav -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.or

Re: Expanding the list of "Hardened Packages"

2013-05-08 Thread Florian Weimer
On 04/14/2013 03:34 AM, Steve Grubb wrote: -fstack-protector-all really is all. The default in Fedora is 4 bytes which would cover cases where ints and char[] are interposed as in some networking code. But more importantly, the defaul stack-protector only kicks in when the object is a char arra

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-08 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 10:10 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 09:03:02PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote: > > Let's be realistic here. The precedence they have recently set is they > > make decisions and if you don't like it "too bad". > > Even if that is true, what is your point? That

Re: Provenpackager mistakes

2013-05-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 7 May 2013 09:12:33 -0600, Jerry James wrote: > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:44 AM, Fedora Koji Build System wrote: > > Package: m4rie-20130416-1.fc19 > > Tag: f19-updates-candidate > > Status: complete > > Built by: pbrobinson > > ID: 416696 > > Started: Tue, 07 May 2013 11:35:25 UTC > > Fini

Re: Packaging directory in /mnt - how to do so?

2013-05-08 Thread Alec Leamas
On 2013-05-08 09:32, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 09:34:15AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 05/07/2013 09:14 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: Hey list, In the course of review of owfs (#927237) I was pointed that shipping directory in /mnt is prohibited. FHS seems to agree.

Re: Packaging directory in /mnt - how to do so?

2013-05-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 08.05.13 09:32, Tomasz Torcz (to...@pipebreaker.pl) wrote: > On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 09:34:15AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 05/07/2013 09:14 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > >Hey list, > > > > > > In the course of review of owfs (#927237) I was pointed that > > >shipping dire

Re: Re: dietlibc

2013-05-08 Thread Frank Bergmann
Hello, I freshly subscribed this list after reading that dietlibc seems to be unmaintained. (http://mm3test.fedoraproject.org/hyperkitty/list/de...@mm3test.fedoraproject.org/thread/BP7LYYNGQA2DDTNFNS3EJXX3AGNZRNAX/) What's the current status of dietlibc in Fedora and how can it be checked? Last b

Re: Re: dietlibc

2013-05-08 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Frank Bergmann wrote: > Hello, > > I freshly subscribed this list after reading that dietlibc seems to be > unmaintained. > ( > http://mm3test.fedoraproject.org/hyperkitty/list/de...@mm3test.fedoraproject.org/thread/BP7LYYNGQA2DDTNFNS3EJXX3AGNZRNAX/ > ) > > What's t

F-19 Branched report: 20130508 changes

2013-05-08 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Wed May 8 09:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [byzanz] byzanz-0.3-0.5.fc17.x86_64 requires libpanel-applet-4.so.0()(64bit) [cinnamon] cinnamon-menu-editor-1.6.7-7.fc19.noarch requires gnome-panel [d

Re: Re: dietlibc

2013-05-08 Thread Frank Bergmann
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 06:56:59AM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote: >On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Frank Bergmann <[1]fedora-de...@tuxad.de> >wrote: > Hello, > I freshly subscribed this list after reading that dietlibc seems to be > unmaintained. > > ([2]http://mm3test.fedora

Re: Re: dietlibc

2013-05-08 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Frank Bergmann wrote: > On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 06:56:59AM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote: > >On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Frank Bergmann <[1] > fedora-de...@tuxad.de> > >wrote: > > Hello, > > I freshly subscribed this list after reading that dietlibc

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-08 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wednesday, May 8, 2013, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 10:10 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > > On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 09:03:02PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote: > > > Let's be realistic here. The precedence they have recently set is they > > > make decisions and if you don't like it "

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2013-05-09 16:00 UTC)

2013-05-08 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2013-05-09 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2013-05-09 09:00 Thu US/Pacific 2013-05-09 12:00 Thu US/Eastern 2013-05-09 16:00 Thu UTC <- 2013-05-09 17:00

ext4 - scsi: storvsc: avoid usage of WRITE_SAME

2013-05-08 Thread Mario Ceresa
Dear all, When accessing a VHDX disc with a f18 VM (hyperv) with kernel 3.8.8-202 x86_64 I have tons of errors like: Add. Sense: No additional sense information hv_storvsc vmbus_0_12: cmd 0x41 scsi status 0x2 srb status 0x6 I believe it is related to WRITE_SAME don't implemented in win2012 server

Re: ext4 - scsi: storvsc: avoid usage of WRITE_SAME

2013-05-08 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 5/8/13 9:21 AM, Mario Ceresa wrote: > Dear all, > When accessing a VHDX disc with a f18 VM (hyperv) with kernel > 3.8.8-202 x86_64 I have tons of errors like: > > Add. Sense: No additional sense information > hv_storvsc vmbus_0_12: cmd 0x41 scsi status 0x2 srb status 0x6 > > I believe it is re

Re: ext4 - scsi: storvsc: avoid usage of WRITE_SAME

2013-05-08 Thread Mario Ceresa
Thanks Eric, I'll upgrade to 3.9 then. Do you know if there is an easy way to know when a kernel patch goes upstream? Mario On 8 May 2013 16:28, Eric Sandeen wrote: > On 5/8/13 9:21 AM, Mario Ceresa wrote: >> Dear all, >> When accessing a VHDX disc with a f18 VM (hyperv) with kernel >> 3.8.8-20

Re: Build control-center in mock fail

2013-05-08 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > I use mock to local build packages. > I was build control-center in mock. But always error... > How I fix it ? > GEN gnome-control-center.1 > I/O error : Attempt to load network entity > http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/curre

Re: ext4 - scsi: storvsc: avoid usage of WRITE_SAME

2013-05-08 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 5/8/13 9:30 AM, Mario Ceresa wrote: > Thanks Eric, I'll upgrade to 3.9 then. > > Do you know if there is an easy way to know when a kernel patch goes upstream? You can search in the git tree: [root@host linux-2.6]# git log --pretty=oneline | grep "storvsc: avoid usage" 3e8f4f4065901c8dfc51407

Re: ext4 - scsi: storvsc: avoid usage of WRITE_SAME

2013-05-08 Thread Mario Ceresa
Cool! thanks a lot! On 8 May 2013 16:38, Eric Sandeen wrote: > On 5/8/13 9:30 AM, Mario Ceresa wrote: >> Thanks Eric, I'll upgrade to 3.9 then. >> >> Do you know if there is an easy way to know when a kernel patch goes >> upstream? > > You can search in the git tree: > > [root@host linux-2.6]#

Re: ext4 - scsi: storvsc: avoid usage of WRITE_SAME

2013-05-08 Thread Mario Ceresa
Confirmed: kernel-3.9.1-0.rc1.201.fc18.x86_64 from koji fix this issue :) On 8 May 2013 16:40, Mario Ceresa wrote: > Cool! thanks a lot! > > > On 8 May 2013 16:38, Eric Sandeen wrote: >> On 5/8/13 9:30 AM, Mario Ceresa wrote: >>> Thanks Eric, I'll upgrade to 3.9 then. >>> >>> Do you know if ther

Re: Build control-center in mock fail

2013-05-08 Thread Igor Gnatenko
Thx. But why in oficially packages doesn't fixed? Best Regards, Igor Gnatenko 08.05.2013 18:35 пользователь "Jerry James" написал: > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Igor Gnatenko > wrote: > > I use mock to local build packages. > > I was build control-center in mock. But always error... >

Re: Adding open-vm-tools to core group

2013-05-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.05.2013 19:39, schrieb Ravindra Kumar: >> and why? > > open-vm-tools are required for anything that requires > co-ordination with the guest. Here are a few examples, > clean shutdown of guest from VM management interface, > guest consistent snapshots, collection/display of guest > resource

Re: Adding open-vm-tools to core group

2013-05-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.05.2013 19:48, schrieb Ravindra Kumar: > If there are strong use cases that don't require that functionality > then probably it makes sense to not be part of core, otherwise, I think > it makes more sense to make open-vm-tools part of @core because sooner > or later users will end up instal

Re: Build control-center in mock fail

2013-05-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On 08/05/13 08:13 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: Thx. But why in oficially packages doesn't fixed? Does anyone know if it's actually the case that the guidelines require packages be buildable without internet access? I just had a quick search on obvious terms through https://fedoraproject.org/wik

Fedora ARM Weekly Status Meeting 2013-05-08

2013-05-08 Thread Paul Whalen
Good day all, Please join us today (Wednesday, May 8th) at 4PM EDT (8PM UTC) for the Fedora ARM weekly status meeting in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode. On the agenda so far.. 0) Status of ACTION items from our previous meeting 1) Problem packages 2) Kernel Status update

Re: Build control-center in mock fail

2013-05-08 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mercredi 08 mai 2013 à 10:02 -0700, Adam Williamson a écrit : > On 08/05/13 08:13 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > > Thx. But why in oficially packages doesn't fixed? > > Does anyone know if it's actually the case that the guidelines require > packages be buildable without internet access? I just h

Re: F-19 Branched report: 20130508 changes

2013-05-08 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Fedora Branched Report wrote: > Compose started at Wed May 8 09:15:02 UTC 2013 > > Broken deps for x86_64 > -- > [byzanz] > byzanz-0.3-0.5.fc17.x86_64 requires libpanel-applet-4.so.0()(64bit) > [cinnam

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (YYYY-MM-DD)

2013-05-08 Thread Josh Boyer
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2013-05-08) === Meeting started by jwb at 18:06:59 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-05-08/fesco.2013-05-08-18.06.log.html . Meeting summary --

Self Introduction & review/sponsor request

2013-05-08 Thread Björn Esser
Dear Fedora Community, since I want to contribute to Fedora to make better and to become a member of the packager-group, I'm going to introduce myself here a bit. I am Björn Esser and I live in Hildesheim, Germany. That's about 30 km (20 mi) south of Hannover. I'm just an ordinary guy using Linux

Re: F-19 Branched report: 20130508 changes

2013-05-08 Thread Peter Robinson
> > Compose finished at Wed May 8 12:20:02 UTC 2013 First please trim unneeded stuff from a reply. > Umm hi, > > Who obsoleted gnome-panel? It is required by a ton of packages. It was announced to the list as to why, it's dead upstream and doesn't build with the current gnome and is in fact bro

Re: F-19 Branched report: 20130508 changes

2013-05-08 Thread Tom Callaway
On 05/08/2013 02:47 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: > Who obsoleted gnome-panel? It is required by a ton of packages. It appears to be needed by only: byzanz - optional panel applet, update building right now. cinnamon-menu-editor - Not sure why this depends on gnome-panel. gnome-applet-sensors - probably s

Re: Adding open-vm-tools to core group

2013-05-08 Thread Ravindra Kumar
> *but* please undersatdn with your argumentation a lot of maintainers > could claim that their packages are in CORE for several reasons > because they are expected to be used from most users > please leave core be what core means > and as i clearly statet that i have open-vm-tools on nearly any

Fedora ARM Weekly Status Meeting Minutes 2013-05-08

2013-05-08 Thread Paul Whalen
Thanks to those that were able to join for the status meeting today, for those unable the minutes are posted below: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-05-08/fedora-meeting-1.2013-05-08-20.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2

Re: F-19 Branched report: 20130508 changes

2013-05-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 16:22 -0400, Tom Callaway wrote: > On 05/08/2013 02:47 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: > > Who obsoleted gnome-panel? It is required by a ton of packages. > > It appears to be needed by only: > byzanz - optional panel applet, update building right now. > cinnamon-menu-editor - Not sure

Re: F-19 Branched report: 20130508 changes

2013-05-08 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Tom Callaway wrote: > It appears to be needed by only: > byzanz - optional panel applet, update building right now. > cinnamon-menu-editor - Not sure why this depends on gnome-panel. > gnome-applet-sensors - probably should be blocked. > openbox - Should disable gdm

Re: F-19 Branched report: 20130508 changes

2013-05-08 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 11:47 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote: > Umm hi, > > Who obsoleted gnome-panel? It is required by a ton of packages. > We did, because GNOME no longer uses gnome-panel. All those packages that require gnome-panel are applets, which are just as useless without gnome-panel. If you w

Re: F-19 Branched report: 20130508 changes

2013-05-08 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > We did, because GNOME no longer uses gnome-panel. All those packages > that require gnome-panel are applets, which are just as useless without > gnome-panel. If you want to keep gnome-panel alive for some reason > (although you already have

Re: F-19 Branched report: 20130508 changes

2013-05-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: > > > The new version of cinnamon does not depend on it. Fighting with it to > get to compile. Thanks for your reply. There were some other packages > though that seemed affected.. (i.e. openbox) and some gnome packages > too. > Openbox has s

Old review ticket triage

2013-05-08 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
I spent a bit of time recently trying to clean up the oldest package review tickets, making sure links are accessible and the submitted packages actually build. At this point I think all of the tickets in http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/NEW.html older than May 2012 should actually be

Re: F-19 Branched report: 20130508 changes

2013-05-08 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Dan Mashal [08/05/2013 11:47] : > > Who obsoleted gnome-panel? It is required by a ton of packages. "gnome-panel and gnome-applets just got blocked [1] in koji. We still have a number of packages depending on gnome-panel, either through library deps or through Requires: gnome-panel, and all of

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-08 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Wed, 08 May 2013 10:09:13 +0200 Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 10:10 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > > On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 09:03:02PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote: > > > Let's be realistic here. The precedence they have recently set is they > > > make decisions and if you don't

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-08 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-05-08 10:09 (GMT+0200) Pierre-Yves Chibon composed: you are replying to a 4 days old email on a thread that is no longer active? A: The thread was started on a Friday night. B: Some people don't get to read mail every day, or more than a few or less times a week. A + B = perfectly

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-08 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 19:59 -0600, Pete Zaitcev wrote: > FOUR DAYS is "no longer active" for you? Seriously? > You want to STFU those who disagree _this hard_? Pete, There is no constructive discussion going on here any more. 4 days is certainly enough time for a mailing list thread to go inacti

Re: Build control-center in mock fail

2013-05-08 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 19:25 +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: > Le mercredi 08 mai 2013 à 10:02 -0700, Adam Williamson a écrit : > > On 08/05/13 08:13 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > > > Thx. But why in oficially packages doesn't fixed? > > > > Does anyone know if it's actually the case that the guideline

Re: Build control-center in mock fail

2013-05-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On 08/05/13 08:13 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: >> >> Thx. But why in oficially packages doesn't fixed? > > > Does anyone know if it's actually the case that the guidelines require > packages be buildable without internet access? I just had a qu

Re: Build control-center in mock fail

2013-05-08 Thread David
On 5/8/2013 10:59 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> On 08/05/13 08:13 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: >>> >>> Thx. But why in oficially packages doesn't fixed? >> >> >> Does anyone know if it's actually the case that the guidelines require >> packag

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 22:36 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2013-05-08 10:09 (GMT+0200) Pierre-Yves Chibon composed: > > > you are replying to a 4 days old email on a thread that is no > > longer active? > > A: The thread was started on a Friday night. > > B: Some people don't get to read mail ev

Re: Build control-center in mock fail

2013-05-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 22:59 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On 08/05/13 08:13 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > >> > >> Thx. But why in oficially packages doesn't fixed? > > > > > > Does anyone know if it's actually the case that the guideline

Re: Build control-center in mock fail

2013-05-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > Yes, I know that, thanks. I didn't ask for a lecture, but whether this > was actually written down in the guidelines somewhere. > It is not written down as policy and since the tools themselves enforce this, I don't think it has b

Re: Build control-center in mock fail

2013-05-08 Thread Igor Gnatenko
Huh! Today this problem not present.. -- Best Regards, Igor Gnatenko 09.05.2013 8:12 пользователь "Rahul Sundaram" написал: > Hi > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> >> >> Yes, I know that, thanks. I didn't ask for a lecture, but whether this >> was actually written

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-08 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-05-09 00:02 (GMT-0400) Adam Williamson composed: On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 22:36 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2013-05-08 10:09 (GMT+0200) Pierre-Yves Chibon composed: > you are replying to a 4 days old email on a thread that is no > longer active? A: The thread was started on a Frid

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-05-09 at 00:44 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2013-05-09 00:02 (GMT-0400) Adam Williamson composed: > > > On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 22:36 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > >> On 2013-05-08 10:09 (GMT+0200) Pierre-Yves Chibon composed: > > >> > you are replying to a 4 days old email on a thr

Re: Packaging directory in /mnt - how to do so?

2013-05-08 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 12:24:43PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > owfs is suite of program for accessing 1-wire network, which is > > > >simple hardware protocol. One of the program is FUSE module, > > > >giving the access to network and devices on it through filesystem. > > > >The "/m

Adding new group to comps-f19.xml.in

2013-05-08 Thread Ravindra Kumar
Hi Bill and others, Based on the earlier discussions in the emails, I have following diff for comps-f19.xml.in: --- comps-f19.xml.in 2013-04-29 17:41:10.003026000 -0700 +++ comps-f19.xml.in.new 2013-05-08 20:35:57.000112000 -0700 @@ -7,6 +7,9 @@ <_description>Local X.org display server fal

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-08 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
On 02/05/13 05:46 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 20:26:13 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Bill Nottingham writes: Anyway, here are my suggestions: valgrind eclipse gimp kdegames I don't think gimp is that great of a choice to drop. That's a tool that I think some of the