On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:57:00PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
> I'm not doubting your technical skills. I'm making a few points.
>
> b) sometimes you have a LOT of packages to push out.
> c) sometimes even you yourself don't know what to put in the notes.
> d) sometimes there's really not much else
在 2013-3-12 PM3:03，"Tomasz Torcz" 写道：
> This sounds like updates that SHOULDN'T be pushed. If update has no
> changes worth mentioning, it is trivial - trivial updates should not be
pushed.
If upstream release a minor bug fix version, what should we do?
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On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 15:14 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
> 在 2013-3-12 PM3:03，"Tomasz Torcz" 写道：
>
> > This sounds like updates that SHOULDN'T be pushed. If update has no
> > changes worth mentioning, it is trivial - trivial updates should not be
> pushed.
>
> If upstream release a minor bug
On 03/12/2013 03:14 AM, Christopher Meng wrote:
在 2013-3-12 PM3:03，"Tomasz Torcz" 写道：
> This sounds like updates that SHOULDN'T be pushed. If update has no
> changes worth mentioning, it is trivial - trivial updates should not
be pushed.
If upstream release a minor bug fix version, what s
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Mathieu Bridon
wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 15:14 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
>> 在 2013-3-12 PM3:03，"Tomasz Torcz" 写道：
>>
>> > This sounds like updates that SHOULDN'T be pushed. If update has no
>> > changes worth mentioning, it is trivial - trivial updates
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 02:03:16 +0100, Jared K. Smith wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > Has Fedora *ever* had a functional soft-phone? I ask this because I
> > have tried many, and none of them *ever* worked
[...]
> I've successfully used Twinkle for the last th
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jan Kratochvil
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> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 02:03:16 +0100, Jared K. Smith wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Richard W.M. Jones
>> wrote:
>> > Has Fedora *ever* had a functional soft-phone? I ask this because I
>> > have tried many, and none of them *ev
Hi guys,
as per [1], I'd like to propose some patches for F19 comps. These patches are
splitting group called Development Tools into several smaller groups. The
purpose of this email is to find out if there is something fundamentally wrong
with the change (except for the fact that it is change).
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:22 PM, seth vidal wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:18:33 -0500
> Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>
>> On 03/11/2013 04:13 PM, seth vidal wrote:
>> > I want to encourage kids, teenagers, etc to explore the OS. We need
>> > them to be involved in CREATING and LEARNING. So I don
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> On 03/12/2013 01:30 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> > Semantics.
>
> Providing a link is helpful to users isn't semantics. You as a
> package
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This looks good to me.
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On March 7, 2013, 11:
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> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:57:00PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
> > I'm not doubting your technical skills. I'm making a few points.
> >
> > b) sometimes you have a LOT of packages to push out.
> > c) sometimes even you yourself don't know what to put in the notes.
> > d
Il giorno mer, 06/03/2013 alle 12.51 +, Richard W.M. Jones ha
scritto:
> > Upgrading to Fedora 19 is not good for end users.
>
> That's rather negative. We want to encourage testers.
>
> I would suggest to the original poster:
Thank Richard! your instructions is what I'm looking for.
Thank
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 12.03.2013 09:55, schrieb drago01:
>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:22 PM, seth vidal
>> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:18:33 -0500
>>> Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>>>
On 03/11/2013 04:13 PM, seth vidal wrote:
> I want to e
On 03/11/2013 09:16 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Mon, 11.03.13 13:08, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote:
On Mar 11, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Björn Persson wrote:
Or nothing at all displayed unless the user happens to know to press some key
at the
right moment?
A multiboot system n
Hi all,
On the question of how kernel versions should be accessed, I am very
much in favour of the position that Chris Murphy expressed earlier:
choosing a kernel version is opaque to most users and requires fairly
advanced technical knowledge to understand. Invitations to access boot
options (suc
Hi folks,
On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 17:58 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> No-one's answered the simplest part of the question yet :)
>
> You can make httpd 'use the files in /usr/share' simply by including
> a
> config snippet in /etc/httpd/conf.d/ . As Kevin suggests, Wordpress is
> a
> decent exa
On 08/03 12.56, Michael Scherer wrote:
> Le mardi 05 mars 2013 à 11:34 +0100, Bjorn Munch a écrit :
>
> > The package we have ready as an upgrade of the existing one removes
> > some no longer needed patches, adds a few new patches, updates the
> > spec file of course, and also adds an rpmlintrc f
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> I would love to see F19 make a good first impression. The first time you see
> something Fedora-related on the screen currently is the graphical grub
> screen, followed by the filling-in-Fedora of Plymouth, followed by the gdm
> login sc
On 2013-03-12 12:45, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
I would love to see F19 make a good first impression. The first time you see
something Fedora-related on the screen currently is the graphical grub screen,
followed by the filling-in-Fedora of P
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Does any other computing device you own prompt you for a boot menu? Your
> mobile phone? Your TV (which likely has embedded Linux)? Your car?
> Windows? OS X?
>
> Why is that? Could it be because a boot menu is not necessary for normal
Allan Day píše v Út 12. 03. 2013 v 11:15 +:
> Hi all,
>
> On the question of how kernel versions should be accessed, I am very
> much in favour of the position that Chris Murphy expressed earlier:
> choosing a kernel version is opaque to most users and requires fairly
> advanced technical know
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Mon, 11.03.13 13:08, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote:
>
>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Björn Persson
>> wrote:
>> > Or nothing at all displayed unless the user happens to know to press some
>> > key at the
>> > right
Hi,
On 03/12/2013 01:02 PM, Jiří Eischmann wrote:
Allan Day píše v Út 12. 03. 2013 v 11:15 +:
Hi all,
On the question of how kernel versions should be accessed, I am very
much in favour of the position that Chris Murphy expressed earlier:
choosing a kernel version is opaque to most users a
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:58:03 +0100, Kevin Kofler
wrote:
Honza Horak wrote:
This doesn't solve all the issues -- if package like akonadi-mysql says
"Requires: mysql-server", then Oracle MySQL either wouldn't satisfy that
requirement or (in case it includes "Provides: mysql-server") RPM
choosi
> Von: Máirín Duffy
> On 03/11/2013 05:13 PM, seth vidal wrote:
> > Is one line of text really that significant of a problem to present?
>
> I'm pretty sure it is because of where we are in the process at that
> point. For example, translations - can we render Indic or CJK glyphs to
> the screen a
Le Mar 12 mars 2013 09:55, drago01 a écrit :
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:22 PM, seth vidal
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:18:33 -0500
>> Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/11/2013 04:13 PM, seth vidal wrote:
>>> > I want to encourage kids, teenagers, etc to explore the OS. We need
>>>
Le Mar 12 mars 2013 13:17, Hans de Goede a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> On 03/12/2013 01:02 PM, Jiří Eischmann wrote:
>> Allan Day píše v Út 12. 03. 2013 v 11:15 +:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> On the question of how kernel versions should be accessed, I am very
>>> much in favour of the position that Chris Murph
Tomcat6 package in Fedora is old, has several problematic bugs (including 4
security) and most importantly there's a replacement: tomcat-7.x
I believe it is in our (developers as well as users) best interest to get rid of
it. I have sent similar email to java-devel on February 26th[1], created ano
Le Mar 12 mars 2013 13:30, Fabian Deutsch a écrit :
>> Von: Máirín Duffy
>> On 03/11/2013 05:13 PM, seth vidal wrote:
>> > Is one line of text really that significant of a problem to present?
>>
>> I'm pretty sure it is because of where we are in the process at that
>> point. For example, translat
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:52:30 +0100
"Nicolas Mailhot" wrote:
>
> Le Mar 12 mars 2013 13:30, Fabian Deutsch a écrit :
> > What about pulling the message stuff into plymouth and using
> > dracut to trigger a reboot which shows the grub menu? Something
> > along the lines: "Press ESC to see deatils
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:00:29 +0100, Honza Horak wrote:
On 03/11/2013 06:55 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote:
Hi ,
On Qua, 2013-03-06 at 09:25 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote:
" Looks like mariadb has hit rawhide now and I can't build mythtv.
I've added conditionals for the direct mysql Requires and BR's but
On 03/12/2013 07:04 AM, drago01 wrote:
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 12.03.2013 09:55, schrieb drago01:
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:22 PM, seth vidal wrote:
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:18:33 -0500
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 03/11/2013 04:13 PM, seth vidal wrote:
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Steve Clark wrote:
> On 03/12/2013 07:04 AM, drago01 wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Reindl Harald
> wrote:
>
> Am 12.03.2013 09:55, schrieb drago01:
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:22 PM, seth vidal
> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:18:33 -0500
> M
Hi everybody,
Ruby 2.0 just landed in F19/Rawhide [1]. Since the rebuild was not as
fast as one would wish, there will be probably plenty of broken
dependencies. I kindly ask you for patience or better for help with
fixing any remaining issues. Just rebuild is unfortunately not enough.
Pleas
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On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 22:21 +1100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> I'm going to start with
> roundcubemail and try to package wikindx4 in a similar manner
I've looked at a few web apps and made quite a few changes to the spec.
However, there are still a few issues that would require heavy patching.
I've file
> Von: Nicolas Mailhot
> Gesendet: 12.03.13 13:52 Uhr
> Le Mar 12 mars 2013 13:30, Fabian Deutsch a écrit :
> >> Von: Máirín Duffy
> >> On 03/11/2013 05:13 PM, seth vidal wrote:
> >> > Is one line of text really that significant of a problem to present?
> >>
> >> I'm pretty sure it is because of w
Le Mar 12 mars 2013 14:16, drago01 a écrit :
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Steve Clark wrote:
>> I'd say booting is a more common task then messing with bootloader
>> options so lets optimize for the former rather then the later.
>>
>> How many times do you boot your system each day? 10? Ok
On Tue, 12.03.13 09:13, Steve Clark (scl...@netwolves.com) wrote:
> How many times do you boot your system each day? 10? Okay thats a
> whole 20 additional seconds.
This is way up on my list of most non-sensical arguments about building
OSes, right next to "Linux is about choice".
This bullshit
On 03/12/2013 02:03 PM, Norvald H. Ryeng wrote:
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:00:29 +0100, Honza Horak wrote:
if I understand it correctly that the problem is caused by conflicting
library names, then it should be solved today (the enhanced package is
already building).
Why not have non-conflicting
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Hi all,
This is a personal introduction, as I'm hoping to join the package team.
The following is a short story of my first encounter with Fedora.
I started using Linux as a part of my studies, almost five years ago, and
at that time the terminal seemed an odd way of controlling
things. Naturally
On 03/12/2013 09:33 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 12.03.13 09:13, Steve Clark (scl...@netwolves.com) wrote:
How many times do you boot your system each day? 10? Okay thats a
whole 20 additional seconds.
This is way up on my list of most non-sensical arguments about building
OSes, right
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Am 11.03.2013 18:49, schrieb Lennart Poettering:
>> - Turn off the graphical grub screen
>>
>> Even if we are not able to suppress the boot menu entirely, or having
>> a clean boot menu like this:
>> https://raw.github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-mockups/master/system-lock-login-boot/bootmenu.png
Am 11.03.2013 19:12, schrieb Honza Horak:
> On 03/09/2013 07:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> and why in the world is this not solved more pragmatically?
>>
>> my conslusion is
>> * MariaDB will replace mysql as default
>> * any package will be linked against mariadb
>> * Oracle MySQL should only p
Am 12.03.2013 09:55, schrieb drago01:
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:22 PM, seth vidal
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:18:33 -0500
>> Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/11/2013 04:13 PM, seth vidal wrote:
I want to encourage kids, teenagers, etc to explore the OS. We need
them
Am 12.03.2013 12:04, schrieb drago01:
>>> Sorry but that's nonsense. Pretty much all other operating systems do
>>> not display the boot loader by default and you see this as a reason
>>> for showing it?
>>> What kind of weird logic is that? Or do you really think we can have
>>> "we do show a sc
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On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:39 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> On 03/12/2013 01:30 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
>> > Semantics.
>>
>> Providing a link is helpful to users isn't semantics. You as a
>> package
>> maintainer would be aware of where to look for reviewing the chang
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Rex Dieter wrote:
> Honza Horak wrote:
>
>> So to solve the live image composes issue for now I adjusted the major
>> soname number to libmysqlclient.so.1018. I know it doesn't solve all the
>> issues, though.
>
> Thanks, that should mitigate immediate issues mentioned in this thread.
Still a p
Hi Jaroslav,
I had updated our page to say that we were 95% complete, and I thought
we were. But our first tests found a major cgroups bug, that has been
fixed in our latest release, that just was finished yesterday.
In short, yes, we are complete, but there is going to be a major update
of packa
Please be careful, rewriting history (and changelog entries).
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> commit 7cbe3221ef9411bb258c6d65b7f00f0de557c380
> Author: Edouard Bourguignon
> Date: Sat Mar 9 13:57:43 2013 +0100
>
> Upgrade to 1.1.4
...
> @@ -114,11 +115,11 @@ gtk-update-icon-cache %{_datadir}/icon
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:39 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>> - Original Message -
>>> On 03/12/2013 01:30 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
>>> > Semantics.
>>>
>>> Providing a link is helpful to users isn't semantics. You as a
>>> package
>>> maint
Am 12.03.2013 13:52, schrieb Nicolas Mailhot:
>
> Le Mar 12 mars 2013 13:30, Fabian Deutsch a écrit :
>>> Von: Máirín Duffy
>>> On 03/11/2013 05:13 PM, seth vidal wrote:
Is one line of text really that significant of a problem to present?
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure it is because of where we ar
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 08:01:54AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> And the main lesson her is "don't clutter the user interface with
> useless graphical eye candy". It makes the boot process require
> unnecessary system resources. The new Fedora installation setup is
> currently a *nightmare*. It
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On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 09:56:57AM -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
> On 03/12/2013 09:33 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >On Tue, 12.03.13 09:13, Steve Clark (scl...@netwolves.com) wrote:
> >You know: *you* might not need fast boot. *Your* systems you might not
> >reboot only every other week. *Your* ser
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 12.03.2013 13:52, schrieb Nicolas Mailhot:
>>
>> Le Mar 12 mars 2013 13:30, Fabian Deutsch a écrit :
Von: Máirín Duffy
On 03/11/2013 05:13 PM, seth vidal wrote:
> Is one line of text really that significant of a problem t
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Repeating that "fast boot times matter" is just as bogus as saying they
don't. The 2 or 3 seconds that's being talked about here has no
meaningful impact on anything other than embedded users and they're
probably not using grub anyway.
Fedora 18 screwed my laptop pretty thoroughly since the A
On 2013-03-13 00:06, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 12.03.2013 13:52, schrieb Nicolas Mailhot:
Le Mar 12 mars 2013 13:30, Fabian Deutsch a écrit :
Von: Máirín Duffy
On 03/11/2013 05:13 PM, seth vidal wrote:
Is one line of text really that significant of a problem to
present?
I'm pretty sure it is
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Hi,
On 03/12/2013 02:37 PM, Palle Ravn wrote:
Hi all,
This is a personal introduction, as I'm hoping to join the package team. The
following is a short story of my first encounter with Fedora.
Welcome!
I started using Linux as a part of my studies, almost five years ago, and at
that time
> From: Chris Murphy
> > Kernel update breaks system. User ignorant of hold-down key approach
> > is stuck. Menu at least advertises possibility of alternative.
>
> This logic doesn't work. The user ignorant of holding down even
> random keys, let alone what will become a common knowledge key, i
Hi,
first of all, I respect your work very much and am actually very
grateful for avahi, pulseaudio and systemd as I was for ifplugd
back in the old days when Gentoo was cool.
> Fast boot times matter to dual-boot users, they matter to everybdoy who
> doesn't run his system 24/7,
That is indeed
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 12.03.2013 15:37, schrieb Dan Mashal:
>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Reindl Harald
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 12.03.2013 13:52, schrieb Nicolas Mailhot:
Le Mar 12 mars 2013 13:30, Fabian Deutsch a écrit :
>> Von: Mái
Am 12.03.2013 15:37, schrieb Dan Mashal:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 12.03.2013 13:52, schrieb Nicolas Mailhot:
>>>
>>> Le Mar 12 mars 2013 13:30, Fabian Deutsch a écrit :
> Von: Máirín Duffy
> On 03/11/2013 05:13 PM, seth vidal wrote:
>> Is on
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:49:22 +0100
Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote:
> Tomcat6 package in Fedora is old, has several problematic bugs
> (including 4 security) and most importantly there's a replacement:
> tomcat-7.x
>
> I believe it is in our (developers as well as users) best interest to
> get rid of
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 07:29:03 -0700
Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Dan Mashal
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:39 AM, Jaroslav Reznik
> > wrote:
...snip...
> >>
> >> Yep, I think the link, when available, is very useful. What I try
> >> is to pick up a few most impo
On 03/12/2013 08:30 AM, Fabian Deutsch wrote:
> What about pulling the message stuff into plymouth and using dracut to
> trigger a reboot which shows the grub menu? Something along the lines:
> "Press ESC to see deatils or 'b' to enter the bootloader"
This is an interesting idea, but I don't think
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 07:29:03 -0700
> Dan Mashal wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Dan Mashal
>> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:39 AM, Jaroslav Reznik
>> > wrote:
>
> ...snip...
>
>> >>
>> >> Yep, I think the link, when avai
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 08:04:47 -0700
Dan Mashal wrote:
> Agree to disagree. I care about compilation logs! :P
Sure, and they are there for you.
I doubt many people will say:
"Hey, foobar-1.0 is updating to foobar-1.0.1, I should read the compile
logs to see whats changed".
> I will try and i
Hi,
>> Keep in mind that the not show the menu by default plan depends on
>> the bootspec changes, and that will include a gui tool which will
>> allow users to select things like show the menu (and then it won't have
>> a timeout so be easier to get to), or even to directly select the
>> kernel
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:58:05PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would love to see F19 make a good first impression. The first time you see
> something Fedora-related on the screen currently is the graphical grub
> screen, followed by the filling-in-Fedora of Plymouth, followed by th
> Von: Máirín Duffy
> On 03/12/2013 08:30 AM, Fabian Deutsch wrote:
> > What about pulling the message stuff into plymouth and using dracut to
> > trigger a reboot which shows the grub menu? Something along the lines:
> > "Press ESC to see deatils or 'b' to enter the bootloader"
>
> This is an in
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 01:43:28PM -0400, Ryan Lerch wrote:
> IIRC, in f17, the GRUB screen was not visible. (you could still
> press f11 to bring it up if you needed it to). Does anyone know why
> this behaviour changed?
I think you're thinking of F15. It was a patch we were carrying to grub1,
On 03/12/2013 09:47 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
> It would be helpful if you could provide bugzilla links to the 2
> packages you've up for review.
I believe these are the reviews. He may have missed your e-mail due to
the massive fire-hose of paint being thrown on the nearby bike shed.
https://bug
Quoting Kevin Fenzi (2013-03-12 15:53:56)
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:49:22 +0100
> Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote:
>
> > Tomcat6 package in Fedora is old, has several problematic bugs
> > (including 4 security) and most importantly there's a replacement:
> > tomcat-7.x
> >
> > I believe it is in our (
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:10:27 -0400
Peter Jones wrote:
> Honestly, I'd like to do this anyway - the grub2 gfxterm code seems to
> cause nothing but bugs in later graphics setup. That said, I'd rather
> go back to not having it at all, but with a different plan than last
> time.
>
> The idea woul
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 05:51:06PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> On 03/11/2013 05:01 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > By hooking this up to keys people would natrually try, such as shift,
> > space, enter, escape, or whatever windows does for their boot menu stuff.
>
> FWIW Windows uses F8
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Hi All,
F19 has been branched, please be sure to do a git pull --rebase to pick
up the new branch, additionally rawhide/f20 has had inheritance cut off
from previous releases, so this means that anything you do for f19 you
also have to do in the mast
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> I believe these are the reviews. He may have missed your e-mail due to
> the massive fire-hose of paint being thrown on the nearby bike shed.
I accidentally made a wrong reply, as my gmail doesn't reply to the
mailing list by default.
On Mar 12, 2013 9:12 AM, "Peter Jones" wrote:
>
> On UEFI systems, which is most new desktops:
>
> 1) we don't need any grub UI whatsoever
> 2) we don't need the 5 second timeout
> 3) we don't need to indicate to the firmware that we need USB probed
> unless it's the device we're booting from.
>
Le Mar 12 mars 2013 16:09, Gerd Hoffmann a écrit :
> Hi,
>
>>> Keep in mind that the not show the menu by default plan depends on
>>> the bootspec changes, and that will include a gui tool which will
>>> allow users to select things like show the menu (and then it won't have
>>> a timeout so be
Le Mar 12 mars 2013 16:10, Peter Jones a écrit :
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:58:05PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> The idea would be to have a positive indication from systemd that
> we've gotten to some pre-defined point on the previous boot (say,
> starting your login manager), and not to sh
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