Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-17 Thread Alec Leamas
On 02/16/2013 05:16 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:47:13 +0200 Panu Matilainen wrote: I think Kevin was talking about "normal", ie non-debuginfo packages like the example case of nacl-devel owning /usr/lib/debug, which indeed is a (trivial) packaging bug. Except perhaps for the

Mass closing EOL bugs should not close bugs with pending updates

2013-02-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Hi there, I found that a couple of F16 bugs were closed by endoflife@fp.o even though there were pending updates for F17 and F18 to fix them. As a result, the bugs are now closed WONTFIX even they were or are going to be fixed. Should we expect the bugzappers to not mass-close bugs that are in MO

Re: Mass closing EOL bugs should not close bugs with pending updates

2013-02-17 Thread Heiko Adams
Am 17.02.2013 12:02, schrieb Christoph Wickert: > > Should we expect the bugzappers to not mass-close bugs that are in > MODIFIED or ON_QA state or require maintainers to upgrade the bugs to a > supported release even though they were originally filed in against an > older version? > IMHO the bes

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Olav Vitters wrote: > 1. Show sessions before selecting/entering the user: >Means basically including something like 'default session' or >'previous session' That's how the rest of the world does it… > 2. Show sessions after selecting/entering the user: >Means you can show the actual

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 02/15/2013 09:17 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Several people on #fedora-kde see this UI as a way to push the agenda >> of making users not even realize there's an alternative to GNOME > > Those "several people" have poor attitude when they assume malice. It is > a poisono

Re: Mass closing EOL bugs should not close bugs with pending updates

2013-02-17 Thread Tadej Janež
On Sun, 2013-02-17 at 12:02 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > I found that a couple of F16 bugs were closed by endoflife@fp.o even > though there were pending updates for F17 and F18 to fix them. As a > result, the bugs are now closed WONTFIX even they were or are going to > be fixed. What you

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> and which fool has written the feature page without knowing what binary >> compatibility >> > > You have been repeatedly using offensive language and shouting on the > mailing lists on a regular basis.

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > Also MySQL 5.6 gains some of its speed through [non-Free] commercial > extensions (like e.g. the thread pool). That's one more reason to NOT ship MySQL in Fedora now that there is an alternative: It's crippleware! > All of this benefits Fedoras users. Software int

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Honza Horak wrote: > In F19, there still *will* be mysql-5.5.x. But WHY? If we want to migrate our users to MariaDB, why not do it now? What's the benefit of having both in F19? It just complicates things for both maintainers of dependent packages and users. Kevin Kofler -- devel mail

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > Difference never the less and difference in behavior ( which mariadbs > own benchmarking on their website proof ) which means every server tweak > that has been done for the mysql host has to be redone to take whatever > changes and features mariadb introduces. MySQL

Problem in Installing Fedora 17

2013-02-17 Thread Rajat Seth
While installing fedora 17, i am getting the following error again and again "unrecoverable error ext4 filesystem check failure on /dev/sda3 file system errors left uncorrected errors like this usually mean there is a problem with the filesystem that will require user interaction to repair. bef

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > I guess in this case the principle "never ascribe to malice what can be > adequately explained by incompetence" applies. ;-) > I guess you are being sarcastic but assuming incompetence is slightly better than assuming malice but the be

Re: Fedora 16 EOL Bugzilla Closure - strange behavior?

2013-02-17 Thread Cole Robinson
On 02/15/2013 05:41 AM, Tadej Janež wrote: > Hi! > > Here is an example: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=736498 > I filled this bug during the F-16 Graphics test week. > After the Fedora EOL reminder and before the bug was closed, I tried to > reproduce it on F-17 and I couldn't. Thu

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Please take into account that English is not Harald's (nor my, for that > matter) first language. It's already hard to be polite when one's angry, > but > it's all the harder in a foreign language. > English isn't my native tongue eith

Re: Mass closing EOL bugs should not close bugs with pending updates

2013-02-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 17.02.2013, 14:46 +0100 schrieb Tadej Janež: > On Sun, 2013-02-17 at 12:02 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > > > I found that a couple of F16 bugs were closed by endoflife@fp.o even > > though there were pending updates for F17 and F18 to fix them. As a > > result, the bugs are

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-17 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Rahul Sundaram said: > English isn't my native tongue either. Sure, some of what I write will > offend people because I am not expressing as clearly but I don't think that > is the situation with Harald. He has been moderated quite heavily which is > fairly unprecedented in Fed

Re: Mass closing EOL bugs should not close bugs with pending updates

2013-02-17 Thread Gerry Reno
On 02/17/2013 03:26 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 17.02.2013, 14:46 +0100 schrieb Tadej Janež: >> On Sun, 2013-02-17 at 12:02 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: >>> I found that a couple of F16 bugs were closed by endoflife@fp.o even >>> though there were pending updates for F17 and

Re: Mass closing EOL bugs should not close bugs with pending updates

2013-02-17 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 17.02.2013, 14:46 +0100 schrieb Tadej Janež: >> On Sun, 2013-02-17 at 12:02 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: >> > >> > I found that a couple of F16 bugs were closed by endoflife@fp.o even >> > though there were pending updat

Re: Mass closing EOL bugs should not close bugs with pending updates

2013-02-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 17.02.2013, 16:12 -0500 schrieb Orcan Ogetbil: > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > Am Sonntag, den 17.02.2013, 14:46 +0100 schrieb Tadej Janež: > >> On Sun, 2013-02-17 at 12:02 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > >> > > >> > I found that a couple of F16 bug

Re: Mass closing EOL bugs should not close bugs with pending updates

2013-02-17 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 17.02.2013, 16:12 -0500 schrieb Orcan Ogetbil: >> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: >> > Am Sonntag, den 17.02.2013, 14:46 +0100 schrieb Tadej Janež: >> >> On Sun, 2013-02-17 at 12:02 +0100, Christo

Re: Mass closing EOL bugs should not close bugs with pending updates

2013-02-17 Thread Christopher Meng
NEXTRELEASE should be great. 28 days is not enough...Somebody never subscribe devel ,even their email address is invalid. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Graphics (GMA3600, 400MHz) module for Atom D2500 issue

2013-02-17 Thread Rahul Bhalerao
Dear all, I am trying to remix Fedora 17 on Atom D2500 system. It has a graphic card of 400Mhz which corresponds to GMA3600. The graphic module that is installed and used by default supports only GMA500. Because of this, I suspect that the performance of graphically intensive applications is get

Re: Graphics (GMA3600, 400MHz) module for Atom D2500 issue

2013-02-17 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 07:02:11AM +0530, Rahul Bhalerao wrote: > Dear all, > > I am trying to remix Fedora 17 on Atom D2500 system. It has a graphic card > of 400Mhz which corresponds to GMA3600. Nope. It's a PowerVR part, not a GMA3x00 part. There's no acceleration with any open source video

[Test-Announce] 2013-02-18 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2013-02-17 Thread Adam Williamson
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2013-02-18 # Time: 16:00 UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! It's meeting time again tomorrow. Topic list is pretty short this week, so might be a short meeting

Re: Javascript packaging guidelines

2013-02-17 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 01:16:53PM -0600, Jeremy White wrote: > I am working to become a packager for spice-html5 [1]. > > Eduardo Echeverria has suggested that I break out the dependent > Javascript libraries into separate packages, which I am now working on. > > I am attempting to follow the Ja