Hi,
On 02/13/2013 04:26 AM, DJ Delorie wrote:
Hmm, we still have xmms in the repo?
/me is very glad we still have xmms in the repo
Have you tried using Audacious ? You can set it to
classic mode, at which point it user experience is
identical to xmms.
With the advantage that it uses a mod
On 13 February 2013 09:21, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Have you tried using Audacious ? You can set it to
> classic mode, at which point it user experience is
> identical to xmms.
>
> With the advantage that it uses a modern toolkit, more
> modern plumbing in various places, and it is actively
Hi,
I spend a little time recently working on the llvm package trying
to fix a few Fedora bugs that have been open for a while...
I also think we should really get llvm-3.2 into Fedora 19.
I have done a few tests and scratch builds in
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=903100
and am plan
Please can we test this on rawhide first if anything? I'm pretty sure a lot
of thing are still ck dependant. We are still trying to catch up to systemd.
Just because some other distro did it doesn't mean we should do it too.
Dan
On Tuesday, February 12, 2013, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> Heya,
>
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> Please can we test this on rawhide first if anything? I'm pretty sure a lot
> of thing are still ck dependant. We are still trying to catch up to systemd.
>
> Just because some other distro did it doesn't mean we should do it too.
Retirement o
On 02/12/2013 09:10 PM, Sergei Golubchik wrote:
Okay, so you suggest to do nothing - neither append the includedir line
to the existing my.cnf nor let mariadb read /etc/my.cnf.d/ automatically
and implicitly.
That's fine :)
I was only trying to find an alternative to "let mariadb read
/etc/my.cn
Hi, Reindl!
On Feb 13, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> a few lines in the SPEC files %install section would simply
> remove the folder and this files - i know a lot of mysql
> setups and have never seen one with includes and if
> so then they would be created by the admin
Sure, that's only in the maria
On 02/12/2013 06:46 PM, Honza Horak wrote:
Hi folks,
I'd like to share an idea related to MySQL->MariaDB move, that may be a
bit controversial. Speaking about default case in Fedora, MySQL has used
only one file at /etc/my.cnf to configure server, libraries,
command-line utilities, etc.
MariaDB
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 12.02.13 13:52, Jon Ciesla (limburg...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> > > > So to clarify, you're not actually retiring anything currently, just
> > > > expressing to the community that you'd like to and that we should
> work
> > > > towa
On 13 Feb 2013 09:37, "Jens Petersen" wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I spend a little time recently working on the llvm package trying
> to fix a few Fedora bugs that have been open for a while...
>
> I also think we should really get llvm-3.2 into Fedora 19.
> I have done a few tests and scratch builds in
>
On 02/13/2013 02:15 PM, Sergei Golubchik wrote:
On Feb 13, Reindl Harald wrote:
a few lines in the SPEC files %install section would simply
remove the folder and this files - i know a lot of mysql
setups and have never seen one with includes and if
so then they would be created by the admin
I
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:47:50 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 00:26:28 +0100,
>Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >
> >Hmm, we still have xmms in the repo? Both Debian and Gentoo killed it
> >years ago... And I though those were the conservative distributions...
>
> I wanted t
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79b4069c89a7cdf28444d5ea5ef72f21 Convert-Age-0.04.tar.gz
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commit 8bd2c1a9e6dbecb41fc058dbd8bc1d246718d24d
Author: Normunds Neimanis
Date: Wed Feb 13 17:14:49 2013 +0200
Initial import (#903824).
.gitignore|1 +
perl-Convert-Age.spec | 54 +
sources |1 +
3 files
Hello,
as an provenpackage I have introduced an upstream patch to Emacs
and have create an update in bodhi. After ten days I have to recognize,
that I'm unable to push this update to the stable repository because there
is no 'mark as stable' link on the UI. So I have ask the owner of the
package f
As suggested by
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers
I am writing to introduce myself. I have submitted a package review
request for the spice-html5 javascript SPICE client here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=910793
I'm a long time Free Software
Am 13.02.2013 08:45, schrieb Matthias Runge:
> On 02/12/2013 02:25 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>> the point is that i NEVER EVER want to stop any service by a RPM
>> update and define this GLOBAL for all services with one single
>> config line
>>
> Well, although I understand your intention.
>
>
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Jochen Schmitt wrote:
> Hello,
>
> as an provenpackage I have introduced an upstream patch to Emacs
> and have create an update in bodhi. After ten days I have to recognize,
> that I'm unable to push this update to the stable repository because there
> is no 'mark
Am 13.02.2013 13:34, schrieb Honza Horak:
> On 02/12/2013 09:10 PM, Sergei Golubchik wrote:
>> Okay, so you suggest to do nothing - neither append the includedir line
>> to the existing my.cnf nor let mariadb read /etc/my.cnf.d/ automatically
>> and implicitly.
>>
>> That's fine :)
>> I was only
On 02/13/2013 12:34 PM, Honza Horak wrote:
On 02/12/2013 09:10 PM, Sergei Golubchik wrote:
Okay, so you suggest to do nothing - neither append the includedir line
to the existing my.cnf nor let mariadb read /etc/my.cnf.d/ automatically
and implicitly.
That's fine :)
I was only trying to find an
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:24:07 +0100, Jochen Schmitt wrote:
> Hello,
>
> as an provenpackage I have introduced an upstream patch to Emacs
> and have create an update in bodhi. After ten days I have to recognize,
> that I'm unable to push this update to the stable repository because there
> is no 'm
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:21:35 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 02/13/2013 04:26 AM, DJ Delorie wrote:
> >
> >> Hmm, we still have xmms in the repo?
> >
> > /me is very glad we still have xmms in the repo
>
> Have you tried using Audacious ? You can set it to
> classic mode, at which point
Summary of changes:
8bd2c1a... Initial import (#903824). (*)
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On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 16:10:58 +0100,
Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:47:50 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 00:26:28 +0100,
Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
>Hmm, we still have xmms in the repo? Both Debian and Gentoo killed it
>years ago... And I though
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Jeremy White wrote:
> I am writing to introduce myself. I have submitted a package review
> request for the spice-html5 javascript SPICE client here:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=910793
I'm not a sponsor (yet?), but I did an informal review of
I plan to retire xmms before F20 is branched as it is causing issues with
the removal of some other obsolete packages and it has no upstream support.
If anyone has objections to this please speak up soon.
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On 01/28/2013 03:02 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
GLIBC 2.17 was released at the end of 2012; we have been closely tracking the
GLIBC 2.17 development code in Fedora Rawhide and addressing any issues as
they arise.
The __secure_getenv to secure_getenv renaming need to be reflected in a few
packages
Good Morning all,
Please join us today (Wednesday, February 13th) at 4PM EST (9PM UTC)
for the Fedora ARM weekly status meeting in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode.
On the agenda so far..
0) Status of ACTION items from our previous meeting
1) Problem packages
2) Kernel updates in F17, F18 cau
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 09:21:04PM +0100, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
> Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
> meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC (1:00pm EST, 19:00 CET) in #fedora-meeting on
> irc.freenode.net.
>
> Links to all tickets below can be found at:
> https://fedor
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 01:34:36PM +0100, Honza Horak wrote:
> On 02/12/2013 09:10 PM, Sergei Golubchik wrote:
> >Okay, so you suggest to do nothing - neither append the includedir line
> >to the existing my.cnf nor let mariadb read /etc/my.cnf.d/ automatically
> >and implicitly.
> >
> >That's fine
On Qua, 2013-02-13 at 04:00 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Sat, 09.02.13 13:18, Sérgio Basto (ser...@serjux.com) wrote:
>
> > On Sex, 2013-02-08 at 10:08 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > > On 02/05/2013 07:43 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > >
> > > > Any advises or opinions ?
> > >
> > > I
> Have you tried using Audacious ?
Just did. No thanks. /me uninstalls those five RPMs...
> You can set it to classic mode, at which point it user experience is
> identical to xmms.
No, it's not. It's close enough to fool someone who doesn't use xmms
regularly, but it's different enough to r
> But, e.g. if openssl is updated for security issues, all dependent
> services need to be restarted. If not, you're still e.g. vulnerable.
> That can't be your wish.
Ah, but if sshd is restarted in the middle of the update, and you
ssh'd into the machine to do the update, it kills the install ha
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:15:07 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote:
> First thing audacious did was spew
> random errors to the screen and change my Firefox and emacs cursors.
Interesting, but here it has never done that before.
> Then it ask which of the most recent minecraft jar files I wanted to
> listen t
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> Hi, OK but we don't have any command to trigger only /dev/vboxusb/* ?
You are not supposed to trigger changes for hardware on the running
system, *ever*. Package scripts are package scripts, not magic system
administration tools.
Special de
> and change my Firefox and emacs cursors.
And now I have to restart my entire session to reset my gtk themes,
because of one rogue app. Thanks.
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Summary of changes:
8bd2c1a... Initial import (#903824). (*)
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On Wed, 13.02.13 02:44, Dan Mashal (dan.mas...@gmail.com) wrote:
> Please can we test this on rawhide first if anything? I'm pretty sure a lot
> of thing are still ck dependant. We are still trying to catch up to systemd.
So, in contrast to the esound discussion I do not sense too much
opposition
DJ Delorie wrote:
> And now I have to restart my entire session to reset my gtk themes,
> because of one rogue app. Thanks.
You have other serious system issues not affiliated with Audacious if
this is the case.
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commit c563c4ccea242ba86786ef34fd25459281e7b42d
Author: Dennis Gilmore
Date: Wed Feb 13 13:01:42 2013 -0600
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Mass_Rebuild
cpanspec.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/cpanspec.spec b/cpa
> You have other serious system issues not affiliated with Audacious if
> this is the case.
If "I don't run gnome" is considered "other serious system issues", I
suppose so.
Restarting didn't help, I still had the wrong cursor in emacs and
firefox, but only the emacs and firefox run remotely bac
commit 4abd3622ec4d338c6e292e7ed199b597a82d7ab6
Author: Dennis Gilmore
Date: Wed Feb 13 13:16:23 2013 -0600
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Mass_Rebuild
ctstream.spec |5 -
1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/ctstream.spec b/cts
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:59:46 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> DJ Delorie wrote:
> > And now I have to restart my entire session to reset my gtk themes,
> > because of one rogue app. Thanks.
>
> You have other serious system issues not affiliated with Audacious if
> this is the case.
Hmmm, Au
Am 13.02.2013 19:19, schrieb DJ Delorie:
>
>> But, e.g. if openssl is updated for security issues, all dependent
>> services need to be restarted. If not, you're still e.g. vulnerable.
>> That can't be your wish.
>
> Ah, but if sshd is restarted in the middle of the update, and you
> ssh'd into
Matt Domsch (matt_dom...@dell.com) said:
> The RHEL model of disabling biosdevname by some hardware
> vendors, at installtime, is not accounted for in the current proposal.
I find this model pretty broken - if we want to have clear semantics
that are easily explainable to users and admins, we don
> Wait 4 more days or get 2 more karma. IIRC, critpath updates have to
> wait for 2 weeks before they can be pushed if they do not have sufficient
> karma.
More testing is preferable, of course. I'd help except I don't know my way
around emacs.
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commit 5628b9b6c6981c466235fe2b0ca6c321a1d8f17a
Author: Dennis Gilmore
Date: Wed Feb 13 14:20:26 2013 -0600
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On Feb 13, 2013 10:58 AM, "Lennart Poettering" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 13.02.13 02:44, Dan Mashal (dan.mas...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> > Please can we test this on rawhide first if anything? I'm pretty sure a
lot
> > of thing are still ck dependant. We are still trying to catch up to
systemd.
>
> So, in c
On Wed, 13.02.13 12:58, Dan Mashal (dan.mas...@gmail.com) wrote:
> Sorry if I sound ignorant but:
>
> No. I meant fedora 20 rawhide. What is the problem with keeping it?
There is no Fedora 20 rawhide.
I don't want to maintain it, and I want to put the pressure on the
few holdouts to finally por
On 02/13/2013 10:03 AM, Jared Smith wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Jeremy White wrote:
>> > I am writing to introduce myself. I have submitted a package review
>> > request for the spice-html5 javascript SPICE client here:
>> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=910793
>
Le mercredi 13 février 2013 à 12:58 -0800, Dan Mashal a écrit :
>
> On Feb 13, 2013 10:58 AM, "Lennart Poettering"
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 13.02.13 02:44, Dan Mashal (dan.mas...@gmail.com) wrote:
> >
> > > Please can we test this on rawhide first if anything? I'm pretty
> sure a lot
> > > of thi
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:38:42PM +0100, Michael Scherer wrote:
> However, I have already removed consolekit on my F18 without any notable
> issue, so I do not think any breakage would be blocking. We have the
> whole F19 cycle to find and detect the few packages needing fix.
Is this the kind of
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Jeremy White wrote:
> Thanks. I notice that emails from the Red Hat bugzilla take nearly a
> day to reach me. Is that expected?
No, not at all.
> Thanks for catching my mistake; it is all intended to be LGPLv3.
No worries -- that's what package reviews are for
Hi there,
I'm orphaning
em8300 in Fedora and
em8300-kmod in RPMFusion
because I no longer own the hardware to use it.
Also, it has seen little love from upstream.
Feel free to take it.
Regards,
Felix
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On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Jeremy White wrote:
> Thanks. I notice that emails from the Red Hat bugzilla take nearly a
> day to reach me. Is that expected?
Apparently so. :-(
The Bugzilla team closed the bug about it as NOTABUG:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=910418
-T.C.
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> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:38:42PM +0100, Michael Scherer wrote:
> > However, I have already removed consolekit on my F18 without any
> > notable
> > issue, so I do not think any breakage would be blocking. We have
> > the
> > whole F19 cycle to find and detect the
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 06:01:34PM -0500, Jared K. Smith wrote:
> > Thanks. I notice that emails from the Red Hat bugzilla take nearly a
> > day to reach me. Is that expected?
> No, not at all.
I believe there was a temporary problem in the last few days.
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On Wed, 13.02.13 17:50, Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:38:42PM +0100, Michael Scherer wrote:
> > However, I have already removed consolekit on my F18 without any notable
> > issue, so I do not think any breakage would be blocking. We have the
> > whol
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 09:26:30AM -0600, Jeremy White wrote:
> I wrote this code as part of my mid life crisis, and am trying to get it
> released in a useful form.
That sounds like an excellent mid-life crisis response. Welcome to Fedora!
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On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:34:35AM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> It is an (accepted) feature:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ckremoval
Huh. That (Fedora 17 feature) says 100% complete.
> I am just looking to do the final step, to kill the beast entirely.
So, 110%. :)
Mind you,
On Wed, 13.02.13 19:13, Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:34:35AM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > It is an (accepted) feature:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ckremoval
>
> Huh. That (Fedora 17 feature) says 100% complete.
>
> > I am
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:21 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> On 02/13/2013 04:26 AM, DJ Delorie wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hmm, we still have xmms in the repo?
>>
>>
>> /me is very glad we still have xmms in the repo
>
>
> Have you tried using Audacious ? You can set it to
> classic mode, at which point
DJ Delorie wrote:
> Disadvantage, if you ask me. First thing audacious did was spew
> random errors to the screen and change my Firefox and emacs cursors.
So I suspect that Audacious started gnome-settings-daemon. In the past, some
GNOME apps kept doing that under KDE Plasma sessions as well, un
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> I plan to retire xmms before F20 is branched as it is causing issues with
> the removal of some other obsolete packages and it has no upstream
> support.
>
> If anyone has objections to this please speak up soon.
Have you seen DJ Delorie's replies in the other thread? (Th
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Lennart Poettering wrote:
> There is no Fedora 20 rawhide.
There will be one in less than 4 weeks.
> (and as mentioned, exorcising CK from packages is rather simple usually,
> as in most cases you will just delete code, not add new code).
I don't think that's true. As far as I know, LightDM reli
Jon Ciesla wrote:
> That said, I maintain gnugb, and was able to easily remove the esound
> requirement.
What sound output options does that leave? I see only arts-devel in the
BuildRequires list, and that's actually worse than esound, because it
requires running another sound server from KDE 3
Matthew Miller wrote:
> In reading the F17 feature and the associated discussion page, it looks
> like the actual final state of that was that the multi-seat portion was
> implemented but the "ckremoval" portion wasn't completed, and that there
> was no particular effort around non-Gnome desktops e
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
> Surely you are not honestly consider replacing mysql installation with
> mariadb on upgrades?
Have you missed the discussion? MariaDB is a drop-in replacement for MySQL,
it will REPLACE MySQL in Fedora repositories, and we like to keep existing
setups WORKING (e.g.
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 21:21:41 -0500,
Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
If the esound or pulseaudio plugins are problematic, let us retire
them. I don't think xmms will be used by other people than us fanboys,
and I feel that we are fine with the ALSA output.
Anyhow it looks like spot was kind enough t
Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
> * #1085 2013-02-13 meeting feature voting (mmaslano, 19:37:56)
> * AGREED: all features from new business are accepted "en bloc"
> (+5,-0,0) (mmaslano, 19:45:10)
So that UsermodeMigration nonsense was approved without even any discussion
at all? :-(
Kevin Kof
Jochen Schmitt wrote:
> He explained me, that he also unable to push the package to the
> stable repository and told me, that this package is in crithpath
> and may improvement of an proventester.
Why the heck is Emacs in the critical path in the first place???
Kevin Kofler
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I wrote:
> DJ Delorie wrote:
>> Restarting didn't help, I still had the wrong cursor in emacs and
>> firefox, but only the emacs and firefox run remotely back to my
>> display, the local emacs and firefox had the right cursors. I still
>> can't figure out how to get rid of the wrong cursor withou
> Well, it looks like you aren't running ANY desktop environment,
fvwm2, emacs, firefox, xterm. Plus a few other things as needed.
This is for two computers running four monitors (one computer is the
local one with the monitors, the other is strictly ssh and remote X,
each computer has its own d
On Thu, 14.02.13 04:02, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) wrote:
> > (and as mentioned, exorcising CK from packages is rather simple usually,
> > as in most cases you will just delete code, not add new code).
>
> I don't think that's true. As far as I know, LightDM relies on ConsoleKit
> for
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> There is no Fedora 20 rawhide.
>
> There will be one in less than 4 weeks.
>
>> (and as mentioned, exorcising CK from packages is rather simple usually,
>> as in most cases you will just delete code, not add new co
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 21:21:41 -0500,
> Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
>>
>>
>> If the esound or pulseaudio plugins are problematic, let us retire
>> them. I don't think xmms will be used by other people than us fanboys,
>> and I feel that we ar
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