Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

Hi On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:32 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > Have fun with your proposals and implementing them just dont mix the cron > migration up with the timer units ( which has been there from the get go > )... > You seem confused. I don't have any proposals Rahul -- devel m

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 16:17 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/31/2013 04:03 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:49:11 + > > "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > >> On 01/31/2013 03:24 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > >>> proposal: clearly state that fedora prefers mariadb?

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 18:02 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 31.01.2013 17:56, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Reindl Harald > > wrote: > >> Am 31.01.2013 17:43, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:37 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" > >>> wrote: >

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

Matthias Clasen (mcla...@redhat.com) said: > - Original Message > > > > Right, output should be locale specific. Input command line args... > > seems > > specious. > > Until you put a pipe between and turn the outputs of command a into inputs of > command b... But, as said earlier, it

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 14:20 +0100, Robert Mayr wrote: > >> I think that's not the point, one of the two suites will be dominant >> and you can't provide both of them on a live image for example. >> LibreOffice was introduced to our live ima

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

> The proposal explicitly says that it doesn't envisage including OO on > any images or in any default install configurations, simply adding it as > an option in the package repositories. > > > Regardless of that I'm not sure what it really brings to the table compared to LibreOffice... Looking at

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 21:17 +0100, drago01 wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 14:20 +0100, Robert Mayr wrote: > > > >> I think that's not the point, one of the two suites will be dominant > >> and you can't provide both of them on a live imag

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

> Is it? > > http://blog.mariadb.org/explanation-on-mariadb-10-0/ and > http://blog.mariadb.org/mariadb-10-0-and-mysql-5-6/ seem to suggest that > MariaDB will no longer be following Mysql as religiously as the feature > suggests > > > I'd still say yes since the context of this discussion is mysql

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

On 01/31/2013 06:01 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: - Original Message Right, output should be locale specific. Input command line args... seems specious. Until you put a pipe between and turn the outputs of command a into inputs of command b... It's a fair point. I.E. I/O doesn't ro

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

Matthias Clasen writes: > Until you put a pipe between and turn the outputs of command a into > inputs of command b... People will generally be aware that output is locale-dependent. That is most of the point of having locales at all. Setting LC_ALL=C is not a nice option. That would mean that

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Less Brittle Kerberos

Can't reply on the wiki page, FAS is throwing a 500 server error when I try to log in. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Features/LessBrittleKerberos = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/LessBrittleKerberos > > Feature owner(s): Stef Walter > > Make kerberos in

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

Martin Sourada (martin.sour...@gmail.com) said: > > I'm an Ambassador and this proposal is confusing me. > > We have LibreOffice in our repositories; I think that bring back > > Apache OpenOffice generates only confusion between users, not freedom > > of choice. > > > The confusion is already the

Re: polkit changes in f19

Matthias Clasen wrote: > I just realized that there is a change to the way polkit is packaged in > f19 that spin maintainers should be aware of: the polkit package is just > the service, which only provides the default policy as specified in the > action definitions now. If you want or need suppor

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: NetworkManager Bridging Support

Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: > = Features/NetworkManagerBridging = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NetworkManagerBridging > > Feature owner(s): Pavel Šimerda , Dan Williams at redhat dot com> > > NetworkManager should be able to configure bridge interfaces with commonl

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

Once upon a time, Adam Williamson said: > The proposal explicitly says that it doesn't envisage including OO on > any images or in any default install configurations, simply adding it as > an option in the package repositories. Putting on my mirror admin fedora, I would point out that OO is not a

[Bug 906461] wrong default pidfile in /etc/clamd.d/amavisd.conf

Product: Fedora EPEL https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906461 --- Comment #3 from Steven Roberts --- Interesting. I show both in chkconfig, but I have clamd disabled in chkconfig and clamd.amavis enabled and that is the one that is running and I restart. definitely sounds like some do

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Trusted Network Connect (TNC)

On 01/29/2013 05:28 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Avesh Agarwal (avaga...@redhat.com) said: Right now it is done using wpa_supplicant provided cli. Just to clarify a little bit further, wpa_supplicant provided cli takes care of authentication and tnc's end point assessment. Once it is done, NM or

[Bug 906461] wrong default pidfile in /etc/clamd.d/amavisd.conf

Product: Fedora EPEL https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906461 --- Comment #4 from Robert Moskowitz --- For me it is the opposite. Do a 'service clamd status' and 'service clamd.amavis status' and see what you get. I installed amavisd-new clamav clamav-devel clamd & spamassassin I use

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:06:17 +0100 Marina Latini wrote: > Maybe a power user is able to understand the main differences between > LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice but, what about newbie users? If they can install their preferred suite on Windows why not on GNU/Linux? People would be more confused

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On 01/31/2013 07:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 17:32 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 01/31/2013 05:12 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:27 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: I'm the one that has been looking into the benefit from which

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: NetworkManager Bridging Support

On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 16:41 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: > > = Features/NetworkManagerBridging = > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NetworkManagerBridging > > > > Feature owner(s): Pavel Šimerda , Dan Williams > > > at redhat dot com> > >

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On 01/31/2013 08:40 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 21:17 +0100, drago01 wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 14:20 +0100, Robert Mayr wrote: I think that's not the point, one of the two suites will be dominant and you can't pr

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:36:57 -0500 Bill Nottingham wrote: > Martin Sourada (martin.sour...@gmail.com) said: > > > I'm an Ambassador and this proposal is confusing me. > > > We have LibreOffice in our repositories; I think that bring back > > > Apache OpenOffice generates only confusion between u

Re: polkit changes in f19

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > I just realized that there is a change to the way polkit is packaged in f19 > that spin maintainers should be aware of: the polkit package is just the > service, which only provides the default policy as specified in the action > definit

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 21:17 +0100, drago01 wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: The proposal explicitly says that it doesn't envisage including OO on any images or in any default install configurations, simply adding it as an option in the packa

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6

On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Benjamin De Kosnik wrote: > >> Quality evaluation needs test targets/documents, and eyeballs. > > I think you mean "trained eyeballs" above. I guess in some cases that's useful. But surprisingly a lot is tested without anyone looking. If they had, they'd have ha

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On 01/31/2013 07:27 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:32 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: Have fun with your proposals and implementing them just dont mix the cron migration up with the timer units ( which has been there from the get go )... You seem confu

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

Hi On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:46 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > Then stay out of this. > I don't think that is a reasonable request. This is a public mailing list after all. Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On 02/01/2013 12:31 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:46 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: Then stay out of this. I don't think that is a reasonable request. This is a public mailing list after all. I'm not seeing asking you to stay out of this is an unreaso

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

Hi On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:53 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > I'm not seeing asking you to stay out of this is an unreasonable request > nor this being a public mailinglist has anything to do with that request > after you stated you had no proposal. > > I guess I must still be confused...

Re: polkit changes in f19

Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) said: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > I just realized that there is a change to the way polkit is packaged in f19 > > that spin maintainers should be aware of: the polkit package is just the > > service, which only provides the

RE: Proposed F19 Feature: OpenAttestation

Josh Boyer wrote on 2013-02-01: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Wei, Gang wrote: >> Bill Nottingham wrote on 2013-01-29: >>> Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: = Features/OpenAttestation = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OpenAttestation Feature owner(s): Gan

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: firewalld Rich Language

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:56:18PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Features/FirewalldRichLanguage = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FirewalldRichLanguage > > Feature owner(s): Thomas Woerner > > This feature adds a rich (high level) language to firewalld, that > allows to easily crea

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:46:33PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > And in the midst of me doing this research I have to have Bill > Notting butting into my work ( and I know what that means ), trying > to come up with his own list instead of simply asking me for the one > I was looking at [

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 02:39:56PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/31/2013 02:04 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > >And it's the same situation as with MariaDB and MySQL. Fedora is going to > >prefer MariaDB (FESCo stated it clearly yesterday) - so we should try to make > >an effort to sup

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: OpenAttestation

Wei, Gang (gang@intel.com) said: > > If you're attempting to create a framework that attests the integrity > > of systems for use by 'trusted' software, it would (in theory) only be as > > secure as its weakest link. Given that... PHP? > > I am not sure whether PHP is the weakest link, but th

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Less Brittle Kerberos

On 01/31/2013 07:57 PM, Ken Dreyer wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> Kerberos clients can optionally verify reverse DNS records for services that >> they connect to as a way of trying to identify which realm they belong to. >> However in many cases these do not ex

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: QXL/Spice KMS Driver

> On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 11:52 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > = Features/QXLKMSSupport = > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/QXLKMSSupport > > > > Feature owner(s): Alon Levy > > > > Currently the QXL driver is X.org only, a KMS driver is required to > > move > > forward with projects

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Less Brittle Kerberos

On 01/31/2013 10:35 PM, Kurt Seifried wrote: > Can't reply on the wiki page, FAS is throwing a 500 server error when I > try to log in. > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Jaroslav Reznik > wrote: > > = Features/LessBrittleKerberos = > https://fedoraproject

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