On Oct 10, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Wed, 10.10.12 14:39, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote:
>
>> How is rsyslog properly disabled?
>>
>> sockets.target syslog.target rsyslog.service all seem related.
>
> "systemctl disable rsyslog.service" should suffice.
I
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:50:05 -0400
Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:43:10PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > So, I was going to draft up a policy for this, but then I recalled
> > that we already fixed the display-manager case (whichever one is
> > installed last is run).
>
> Doe
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:36:29 -0400
Bill Nottingham wrote:
> I suppose 'it depends'. A server might have different presets than a
> desktop - it may want apache on by default, or a DB server config that
> enables mysql/postgres.
Sure, but "server" is like "computer"... very general purpose. ;)
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:02:26 +0200
Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
...snip...
> > So make it really better and support time-based rotation. You don't
> > need to make time-based rotation the default, but you'll make a lot
> > of people happy to have the
Once upon a time, Matthew Miller said:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 02:44:53PM -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> > Well, hang on, Kay. My understanding was that we're trying to make
> > syslog an optional install in Fedora 18 (or is it 19?). If that is the
>
> The suggestion was to propose this a
On 10/09/2012 07:25 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
Can't you just you reinstall a package without the nodocs switch/conf in
place to get the docs land on disk ?
You probably also have to skip the scripts, which can have some
unintended consequences. Also it means downloading the entire package
set, n
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 04:39:13PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > Doesn't that come down to "it's random" in the combined case?
> Well, not exactly. It's in actual install order. So if you
>
> yum install gdm
> and then
> yum install lightdm
But what if it's done by anaconda?
> > However, if thi
On Wed, 10.10.12 16:50, Kevin Fenzi (ke...@scrye.com) wrote:
> "My laptop started acting up last tuesday, I should see whats in the
> logs from then"
>
> "I'd like to run a daily report on my logs"
These two are much better implemented via explicit time seeks. The
journal APIs support that just
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 01:48:07AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > "My laptop started acting up last tuesday, I should see whats in the
> > logs from then"
> > "I'd like to run a daily report on my logs"
> These two are much better implemented via explicit time seeks. The
> journal APIs suppor
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On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 11:51:56AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On 10/09/2012 11:07 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> >On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 01:29:04PM -0400, Eric H. Christensen wrote:
> >>Well, if I don't know *if* it's being used I certainly can't ask
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 13:11 +0300, Serge wrote:
> 2012/10/9 tim.lauridsen wrote:
>
> >> So you make your system incompatible with every other Linux distro out
> >> there, and with all existing documentation, but to what end? Tidyness?
>
> Tidyness, simplicity, new features... Incompatible with ol
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 14:37 -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
> >> Can journalctl send the logs via logwatch?
> >
> > Not sure I can parse this, but IIUC you are wondering whether logwatch
> > is compatible with the journal. Not to my
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 12:43 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:08:31 +0200
> Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
>
> > On 10/10/2012 03:25 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 06:01:22PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > >> If you would like to add something to this agenda, yo
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 19:40 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 04:39:13PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > Doesn't that come down to "it's random" in the combined case?
> > Well, not exactly. It's in actual install order. So if you
> >
> > yum install gdm
> > and then
> > yum i
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 06:07:55PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > > Doesn't that come down to "it's random" in the combined case?
> > > Well, not exactly. It's in actual install order. So if you
> > But what if it's done by anaconda?
> You can do a multiple desktop install with a kickstart fil
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 21:22 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 06:07:55PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > > > Doesn't that come down to "it's random" in the combined case?
> > > > Well, not exactly. It's in actual install order. So if you
> > > But what if it's done by anaco
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 07:06:27PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > It seems like having the preset policy RPMs to make the decision
> > deterministic is a good idea.
> Well if you're using a kickstart anyway, you can just stick a systemctl
> enable command in %post, can't you?
Yes but it's a lit
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:55:01 -0700
Adam Williamson wrote:
> This reminds me, we need to take the trigger files out of the *dm
> packages now, right?
trigger files? Or you mean presets? Yeah.
kevin
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On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 22:12 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 07:06:27PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > It seems like having the preset policy RPMs to make the decision
> > > deterministic is a good idea.
> > Well if you're using a kickstart anyway, you can just stick a sy
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:40:55 -0400
Matthew Miller wrote:
> I think turning off sshd by default but having a preset to turn it on
> makes a lot of sense -- most places which will want it on will be
> using kickstart, or else will otherwise have little problem enabling
> it after the fact.
I think
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:48:07 +0200
Lennart Poettering wrote:
> These two are much better implemented via explicit time seeks. The
> journal APIs support that just fine, journalctl currently
> doesn't. However it's trivial to add that based on the lower level
> APIs, the only thing that stopped me
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 08:21:02PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > I think turning off sshd by default but having a preset to turn it on
> > makes a lot of sense -- most places which will want it on will be
> > using kickstart, or else will otherwise have little problem enabling
> > it after the fact
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On 10/11/2012 02:44 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 13:11 +0300, Serge wrote:
2012/10/9 tim.lauridsen wrote:
So you make your system incompatible with every other Linux distro out
there, and with all existing documentation, but to what end? Tidyness?
Tidyness, simplicity, ne
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 08:43:22AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 07:17:58PM +0800, Daniel Veillard wrote:
> > > libxml2 takes up 5.2M, of which 3.8M is docs
> > It really should go in -devel, I agree !
>
> Check it out -- we've accomplished something with this thread. :
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