Dne 9.10.2012 20:04, Rohit napsal(a):
Respected Sir,
I am seriously considering developing for the Fedora Linux Operating System.
Also, I have interest in participating in Google Summer of Code 2013 under your
organisation.
I have knowledge of C, PHP, Javascript, Python(basic) and Objective-C
On 10/09/2012 10:03 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 09.10.12 17:25, Panu Matilainen (pmati...@laiskiainen.org) wrote:
Can I pass this somehow to yum? Or do I have to creat a macro file for
this?
You can set it in yum.conf (tsflags=nodocs), but then rpm wont know
about it (so if you inst
On 09/10/12 15:16, Lennart Poettering wrote:
journalctl -D
Lennart
Can journalctl send the logs via logwatch?
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Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 09.10.12 09:09, Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay.net) wrote:
> > How do you read this log when the system is not running (e.g.
> > mounting filesystems of a drive on another system, running from a
> > rescue image, etc.)?
>
> journalctl -D
So the rescue system (whi
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 09:50:43AM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Tue, 09.10.12 09:09, Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay.net) wrote:
> > > How do you read this log when the system is not running (e.g.
> > > mounting filesystems of a drive on another system, running from a
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 01:02:54AM +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> unfortunately, I have missed the discussion of the introduction of the
> new systemd rpm macros as a new packaging gueidlines.
>
> From my point of view this new set of macros has two disadvantages:
>
> 1. The macros ar
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 09:54:28AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 09:50:43AM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> > Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > On Tue, 09.10.12 09:09, Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay.net) wrote:
> > > > How do you read this log when the system is not running (e
On tis, 2012-10-09 at 12:34 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On 10/9/12 9:18 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
> > From the list of packages this minimal set still installs, that I'd
> > really like to see gone:
> >
> > chkconfig
> > gamin
> > info
> > systemd-sysv
>
> chkconfig seems like it could hav
2012/10/9 Jochen Schmitt wrote:
> I want to disagree with your suggestion. /root is the home directory of
> the superuser and should not be placed on a network device in opposite
> of the home directories of the ordinary users. The user root should be
> able to logon without a network connection t
Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> I checked out the code, and it does seem as if the format is intended
> to be backwards compatible. It uses a set of filesystem-like
> "compatible" and "incompatible" flags, so presumably a sufficiently
> recent journalctl would be able to read any previous version of t
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:00:41PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > I checked out the code, and it does seem as if the format is intended
> > to be backwards compatible. It uses a set of filesystem-like
> > "compatible" and "incompatible" flags, so presumably a sufficien
On 10/10/2012 03:25 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 06:01:22PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco,
e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the me
2012/10/9 tim.lauridsen wrote:
>> So you make your system incompatible with every other Linux distro out
>> there, and with all existing documentation, but to what end? Tidyness?
Tidyness, simplicity, new features... Incompatible with older, but
compatible with newer distros. That's close to what
On 10/10/2012 08:54 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
This would be essential for libguestfs tools to parse logs out of
guests (we do it now by reading /var/log/messages etc which has all of
the properties you state).
I'm not sure how you are doing this currently but for shutdown guest I
assume yo
On 10/10/2012 07:54 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
On 09/10/12 15:16, Lennart Poettering wrote:
journalctl -D
Lennart
Can journalctl send the logs via logwatch?
As far as I know logwatch has not been patched to parse and use journal.
Try filing an RFE against logwatch for that
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:11:12 +0300, Serge wrote:
> Turning /lib into /usr/lib was also incompatible with every other Linux
> distro, nevertheless it's already done.
The fact that we've made one useless and harmful mistake doesn't mean
that we should repeat it all the time.
Matěj
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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:11:03AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 10/10/2012 08:54 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >This would be essential for libguestfs tools to parse logs out of
> >guests (we do it now by reading /var/log/messages etc which has all of
> >the properties you state).
>
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:24:54AM +, Matěj Cepl wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:11:12 +0300, Serge wrote:
> > Turning /lib into /usr/lib was also incompatible with every other Linux
> > distro, nevertheless it's already done.
>
> The fact that we've made one useless and harmful mistake doesn'
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 09:45:09PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 06:14:39PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > Anaconda isn't going to do that unless there is rpm support to
> > re-docify yourself. To accomplish this right now, every package
> > would have to split out a -doc
Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:00:41PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> > So if my Fedora box won't boot, and I take the disk out and mount it
> > in a CentOS box, I might not be able to read the log because
> > journalctl in CentOS might be too old? Not fun.
>
> You can easil
On Tue, 09.10.12 21:26, Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 05:19:59PM -0700, J. Randall Owens wrote:
> > Just on the naming, I'd rather steer clear of the actual concept, let me
> > get this straight: You want a group called "adm", presumably short for
> > "
On Wed, 10.10.12 09:50, Björn Persson (bjorn@rombobjörn.se) wrote:
> Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Tue, 09.10.12 09:09, Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay.net) wrote:
> > > How do you read this log when the system is not running (e.g.
> > > mounting filesystems of a drive on another system, running fr
Serge wrote:
> > Lot of apps will break if you move /proc or /dev
>
> Sure. And many apps would break if you move /bin to /usr/bin. But still,
> you did that? ;)
The contents of /dev vary depending on what hardware the computer has
available - which may change in real time - so it cannot be sha
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Tue, 09.10.12 21:26, Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 05:19:59PM -0700, J. Randall Owens wrote:
>> > Just on the naming, I'd rather steer clear of the actual concept, let me
>> > get this
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 07:17:58PM +0800, Daniel Veillard wrote:
> > libxml2 takes up 5.2M, of which 3.8M is docs
> It really should go in -devel, I agree !
Check it out -- we've accomplished something with this thread. :)
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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:12:26PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> >>About time :-)
> >Awesome.
> >And I want to take a moment to thank everyone for listening to these
> >concerns. I'm optimistic that we can make this all work very nicely.
> Is this documented in the relevant man pages as well?
In
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:11:03AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>> On 10/10/2012 08:54 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> >This would be essential for libguestfs tools to parse logs out of
>> >guests (we do it now by reading /var
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:54 PM, drago01 wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Richard W.M. Jones
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:11:03AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>>> On 10/10/2012 08:54 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>>> >This would be essential for libguestfs tools to p
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 01:58:58PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > The group is already there, so it's not a big stretch, but I agree the
> > naming is confusing when used in this way. ("wheel" isn't exactly
> > straightforward either, but at least it's Traditional.)
> As I already mentioned:
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 02:54:13PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Richard W.M. Jones
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:11:03AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >> On 10/10/2012 08:54 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >> >This would be essential for libguestfs
Dne 10.10.2012 14:25, David Howells napsal(a):
Actually, the UsrMove has mucked up at least one way of doing things: we
have/had RHEL customer(s) who kept /usr on AFS and were able to boot just
using the stuff in /bin and /sbin. This is no longer a viable option with
Fedora, and presumably RHEL-
Compose started at Wed Oct 10 09:15:26 UTC 2012
Broken deps for x86_64
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almanah-0.8.0-7.fc18.x86_64 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.16()(64bit)
Alexander Larsson wrote:
> Honestly, we should be building glib2 with --disable-fam, since glib
> will prefer the inotify notification module anyway (it has prio 20 and
> fam prio 10).
It looks[1] like Matthias was watching this thread. Yay!
[1]
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/glib2.git/commit
I'm trying to make an SCM Request on a Package Review ticket to add a
pseudo-user (the Fonts SIG) to a fonts package that has already been
approved.
I'd like to do a number of these, but I've started with bug 857487:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=857487#c4
I thought that the templat
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Peter Gordon wrote:
> Please add these two to the list:
>
> * meld (EPEL 5, EPEL 6)
> * opengl-games-utils (EPEL 6)
Orphaned, take them.
-J
>
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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Paul Flo Williams wrote:
> I'm trying to make an SCM Request on a Package Review ticket to add a
> pseudo-user (the Fonts SIG) to a fonts package that has already been
> approved.
> I'd like to do a number of these, but I've started with bug 857487:
>
> https://bug
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, Matěj Cepl wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:11:12 +0300, Serge wrote:
Turning /lib into /usr/lib was also incompatible with every other Linux
distro, nevertheless it's already done.
The fact that we've made one useless and harmful mistake doesn't mean
that we should repea
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
>
> I cannot agree enough. Just b/c we've blundered down a bad route doesn't
> mean you cannot turn back.
>
> Instead of chiseling our way back, let's just revert and go.
>
> Not every decision a distribution makes is a good one, lets not get caug
perl-OpenOffice-UNO has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-OpenOffice-UNO-0.07-3.fc17.x86_64 requires
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.14.2)
On i386:
perl-OpenOffice-UNO-0.07-3.fc17.i686 requires
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.14.2)
perl-OpenOffice-UNO-0.07-3.fc17.i686
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 13:58 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 09.10.12 21:26, Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 05:19:59PM -0700, J. Randall Owens wrote:
> > > Just on the naming, I'd rather steer clear of the actual concept, let me
> > > get t
Thank You Very Much For Your Reply.
I am Interested in the OS Developer Category.
The Description of Programming i need to know for OS Development is not clear.
What All programming languages should i know for OS Development ?
One More Thing, I would like to know. The Fedora's GSoC 2012 Page
Once upon a time, Seth Vidal said:
> Not every decision a distribution makes is a good one, lets not get caught
> up believing that we cannot make mistakes.
>
> UsrMove was a mistake. End of discussion. Let's go back.
I agree. The additional churn would be another one-time pain, but then
the B
I apologize, I'm ill and not generally up to providing detailed
responses. So just some sourced facts to counter [1] untruths.
For education on what current syslogs do,
http://blog.gerhards.net/2012/10/main-advantages-of-rsyslog-v7-vs-v5.html
is a possible start and http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/man
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 01:11:12PM +0300, Serge wrote:
> 2012/10/9 tim.lauridsen wrote:
>
> > +1 to Richard, I really don't see the purpose, why does it matter that
> > number of dirs in /.
>
> I don't know why, but some people actually like when there're fewer
> subdirectories in a directory.
T
I have added 4 patches to Fedora's iasl package, one of which fixes a
serious segfault due to pointer truncation:
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/iasl.git/tree/
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856856
However I have absolutely no idea if iasl has an "upstream" as such,
or where els
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 04:20:02PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>
> I have added 4 patches to Fedora's iasl package, one of which fixes a
> serious segfault due to pointer truncation:
>
> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/iasl.git/tree/
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856856
>
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
>> which syslog does not: for example per-service rate limits,
>
> False. http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/imuxsock.html, "There is input rate
> limiting available", currently enable
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
>>> and
>>> unfakable meta-data for log messages.
>>
>> False: http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/imuxsock.html, "trusted syslog
>> properties are available" (and in v7 they can be enabled in the Fedora
>> configuration by default)
>
> It's well meant, b
Good day all,
This weeks Fedora ARM status meeting will take place today (Wednesday Oct 10th)
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On Tue, 09.10.12 22:30, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > logrotate has time based policies for very good reasons.
> >
> > Yeah, because Unix doesn't really allow much else...
> >
> Oh come on, stop bashing unix, logrotate could certainly grow a size
> checking policy if people felt the
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 09.10.12 22:30, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
logrotate has time based policies for very good reasons.
Yeah, because Unix doesn't really allow much else...
Oh come on, stop bashing unix, logrotate could certainly grow a size
c
On Wed, 10.10.12 17:05, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
> > I am not generally against adding time-based rotation, but really, this
> > is much less of a "necessity" than other things the journal provides,
> > which syslog does
On Wed, 10.10.12 14:16, Seth Vidal (skvi...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:
> >On Tue, 09.10.12 22:30, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
> >
> logrotate has time based policies for very good reasons.
> >>>
> >>>Yeah, because Unix doesn't really allow much else...
> >>>
> >>Oh come on, stop bashing
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Wed, 10.10.12 14:16, Seth Vidal (skvi...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:
On Tue, 09.10.12 22:30, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
logrotate has time based policies for very good reasons.
Yeah, because Unix doesn't really allow much else...
On Wed, 10.10.12 08:54, Frank Murphy (frankl...@gmail.com) wrote:
> On 09/10/12 15:16, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
> >journalctl -D
> >
> >Lennart
> >
>
> Can journalctl send the logs via logwatch?
Not sure I can parse this, but IIUC you are wondering whether logwatch
is compatible with the jo
On Wed, 10.10.12 09:54, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 09:50:43AM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> > Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > On Tue, 09.10.12 09:09, Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay.net) wrote:
> > > > How do you read this log when the system is not running
On Wed, 10.10.12 10:12, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 09:54:28AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 09:50:43AM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> > > Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 09.10.12 09:09, Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
>> Can journalctl send the logs via logwatch?
>
> Not sure I can parse this, but IIUC you are wondering whether logwatch
> is compatible with the journal. Not to my knowledge, no. But adding this
> should be fairly easy as the output of "j
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Konstantin Ryabitsev
wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
>>> Can journalctl send the logs via logwatch?
>>
>> Not sure I can parse this, but IIUC you are wondering whether logwatch
>> is compatible with the journal. Not to my know
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 02:37:05PM -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> So, in other words, all our existing log analysis tools have to be
> modified if they are to be of any use in Fedora 18?
No, not in the even slightest. I don't think that's even up for discussion.
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:08:31 +0200
Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
> On 10/10/2012 03:25 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 06:01:22PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >> If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
> >> this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedo
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, Kay Sievers wrote:
So, in other words, all our existing log analysis tools have to be
modified if they are to be of any use in Fedora 18?
What part of "Run the syslog daemon like you always did, if you need
syslog files." did you not understand?
Kay,
This is not an
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
>> So, in other words, all our existing log analysis tools have to be
>> modified if they are to be of any use in Fedora 18?
>
> What part of "Run the syslog daemon like you always did, if you need
> syslog files." did you not understand?
Well,
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:43:10PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> So, I was going to draft up a policy for this, but then I recalled that
> we already fixed the display-manager case (whichever one is installed
> last is run).
Doesn't that come down to "it's random" in the combined case?
> In which
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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Konstantin Ryabitsev
wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
>>> So, in other words, all our existing log analysis tools have to be
>>> modified if they are to be of any use in Fedora 18?
>>
>> What part of "Run the syslog daemon like you alwa
Mesa 9.0 no longer includes a copy of libGLU, it is instead available as
a separate tarball. To reflect this the packaging has been changed to
build mesa-libGLU as its own srpm; likewise for the GL manpages, since
both libGL-devel and libGLU-devel want to depend on them.
This change has already b
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 02:44:53PM -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> Well, hang on, Kay. My understanding was that we're trying to make
> syslog an optional install in Fedora 18 (or is it 19?). If that is the
The suggestion was to propose this as a feature for F19. I think there's
some addition
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> Additionally, it _would_ be cool for log monitoring and analysis tools to
> gain journald support, so that users of those tools can take advantage of
> all the features Lennart lists. If we could have some of those in place
> along with the
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 15:01 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 02:44:53PM -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> > case, then even if I require rsyslog for a package, that won't work
> > unless rsyslog is started and running. So, sysadmin's experience
> > changes:
> > Was: Insta
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> Additionally, it _would_ be cool for log monitoring and analysis tools to
> gain journald support, so that users of those tools can take advantage of
> all the features Lennart lists. If we could have some of those in place
> along with the
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> I am not generally against adding time-based rotation, but really, this
> is much less of a "necessity" than other things the journal provides,
> which syslog does not: for example per-service rate limits, and
> unfakable meta-data for lo
Kevin Fenzi (ke...@scrye.com) said:
> So, I was going to draft up a policy for this, but then I recalled that
> we already fixed the display-manager case (whichever one is installed
> last is run).
>
> For regular spins then, I am not sure what things they would want to
> change in presets. Any
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commit c335b7e86abb83b64b34da4256046c4b599022cf
Author: Paul Howarth
Date: Wed Oct 10 20:43:42 2012 +0100
Update to 0.002
- New upstream release 0.002
- Fix compatibility with Perl 5.16 (CPAN RT#72133)
- Drop upstreamed patch for 5.16 compatibility
Test-Vars-perl516.pat
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Konstantin Ryabitsev
wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
>> I am not generally against adding time-based rotation, but really, this
>> is much less of a "necessity" than other things the journal provides,
>> which syslog does not:
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 21:44 +0200, Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Konstantin Ryabitsev
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Lennart Poettering
> > wrote:
> >> I am not generally against adding time-based rotation, but really, this
> >> is much less of a "necessity"
Summary of changes:
c335b7e... Update to 0.002 (*)
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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 21:44 +0200, Kay Sievers wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Konstantin Ryabitsev
>> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Lennart Poettering
>> > wrote:
>> >> I am not generally against adding time-based ro
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 10:58:45AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> Like to me rsyslog since the journal is an integrated part of systemd.
Leaving aside the merits or otherwise of the journal, why does it need
to be part of systemd? Why not have it as a separate project?
(Perhaps requiring
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
>> I think you overestimate how much a sysadmin cares about fake
>> messages. The thing that's really important to a sysadmin is to make
>> sure that none of the REAL messages are lost. If someone fakes root
>> login entries by using something as
# F18 Beta Blocker Review meeting #3.1
# Date: 2012-10-11
# Time: 16:00 UTC [1] (12:00 EDT, 09:00 PDT)
# Location: #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net
Since we didn't get through all of the bugs during the last meeting, we
will have a continuation on 2012-10-11.
We'll be running through the beta block
Hi,
I'm glad to announce Power management testday,
date: 2012-10-11 (Thursday), link: [1]
During this event suspend/hibernate/resume, backlight control
as well as tuned daemon will be tested. You can also measure
& compare power consumption with others. As a new F18 kernel
feature suspend to bo
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 03:49:11PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> So make it really better and support time-based rotation. You don't need
> to make time-based rotation the default, but you'll make a lot of people
> happy to have the option.
Journald will rotate logs when signalled with SIGUSR2. So
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 09:06:56PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 10:58:45AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> > Like to me rsyslog since the journal is an integrated part of systemd.
>
> Leaving aside the merits or otherwise of the journal, why does it need
> to
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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 10:58:45AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>> Like to me rsyslog since the journal is an integrated part of systemd.
>
> Leaving aside the merits or otherwise of the journal, why does it need
> to be part o
On Oct 10, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
> Syslog is by fact today already an "add-on", and not a
> required component, it is just installed by default today. I don't use
> or run syslog on any of my boxes since quite a while.
How is rsyslog properly disabled?
sockets.target syslog.targe
On Wed, 10.10.12 21:06, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 10:58:45AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> > Like to me rsyslog since the journal is an integrated part of systemd.
>
> Leaving aside the merits or otherwise of the journal, why does it need
>
In case you're interested, there's an Active Directory integration test
day for Fedora 18. Testing stuff like sssd and realmd with Active Directory.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-10-18_Active_Directory
I'll be trying to get an Active Directory domain setup. But if you want
to set
On Wed, 10.10.12 22:19, Tomasz Torcz (to...@pipebreaker.pl) wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 03:49:11PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> > So make it really better and support time-based rotation. You don't need
> > to make time-based rotation the default, but you'll make a lot of people
> > happy to ha
On Wed, 10.10.12 14:39, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote:
>
> On Oct 10, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
>
> > Syslog is by fact today already an "add-on", and not a
> > required component, it is just installed by default today. I don't use
> > or run syslog on any of my boxes s
Good day all,
Thanks to those who were able to join us for the weekly status meeting today.
For those that were unable, the minutes are posted below:
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-10-10/fedora-meeting-1.2012-10-10-20.00.html
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