On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 2:14 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 06/03/2012 12:12 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
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>> At the same time I don't want to be obliged to support something I
>> don't want to. There are many more important things to deal with in
>> the distribution than a stupid secure boot feature.
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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 13:45:12 +0700
From: Michel Alexandre Salim
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On 06/03/2012 01:45 PM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've just packaged Obnam, Lars Wirzenius' new B-tree-based backup
> tool (think btrfs for backup), whose 1.0 release was recently
> announced on Linux Weekly News on Friday, June 1st:
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Hi all,
Two more Python packages, if anyone is interested in swapping:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827722 - for
python-qrcode, a dependency for GNU Health
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827723 - GNU Health
Feel free to
fre 2012-06-01 klockan 09:48 -0700 skrev Adam Williamson:
> Frankly, I'd prefer it if we more strongly recommended that people do
> DVD/netinst upgrades. That path is less complex than preupgrade and
> involves fewer moving parts; it's easier to test and easier to fix and
> more likely, in general
On Mon, 2012-05-28 at 16:00 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:25:43PM +0200, Martin Erik Werner wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-05-28 at 19:31 +0200, Martin Erik Werner wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I have a couple of packaging questions for a new package, the FPS game
> > > redeclipse
On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 14:47 +0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827722 - for
> python-qrcode, a dependency for GNU Health
Don't forget to check the bugzilla before submitting a package:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=824628
Pure pytho
On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 11:48 +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> Plus, there are comments on your spec file which you apparently did
> not read.
I should have said, that you forgot.
Pierre
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drago01 wrote:
> We have to make our software better then the competition being free by
> itself is not enough to gain market traction. Having a complicated
> installation procedure sure does not help this case.
Our goal is freedom, not market share!
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Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Just because people have the ability to install Fedora and post in a
> forum doesn't mean that you can reliably assume that they are willing to
> fiddle with BIOS settings on their system or they would prefer that over
> a installation that just works. We have worked for ye
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> Create a pre-bootloder. If secureboot is enabled only permitting this
> boot because it's signed with the msft key, then display the most
> helpful instructions WRT secureboot we can display and then halt. If
> secureboot is not enabled, pass control to grub.
>
> This
Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> As long as the secure boot is detectable in runtime, the maintainer
> ("I") will have the choice to support or not support users using or
> not using this feature. This is the freedom I was afraid to lose. But
> I learned that this is not the case.
Uh, it IS the case. Arbitr
Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> I am more concerned about the package maintenance level. At the
> package maintenance level, it does not make sense to patch against the
> upstream decision.
It does. If upstream arbitrarily refuses to support a use case we support,
that must be patched.
Now I don't think
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> drago01 wrote:
>> We have to make our software better then the competition being free by
>> itself is not enough to gain market traction. Having a complicated
>> installation procedure sure does not help this case.
>
> Our goal is freedom, no
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> The goal you've set—Fedora working out of the box on this hardware
> without user fuss—can't be accomplished via technical means, except by
> restricting the bootloader and kernel. There is no law of nature
> which says that this must be your goal, however.
There's at lea
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Andrea Musuruane wrote:
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
>> Basically the same kind of failure as the last several times I did updates.
>> This time f16->f17. Used preupgrade.
>
> I'd like to share with you my experience about installing Fedo
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 01:21:55PM +0200, Andrea Musuruane wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Andrea Musuruane wrote:
> > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
> >> Basically the same kind of failure as the last several times I did updates.
> >> This time f16->f17. Used preu
The discussion has been very interesting, and it is probably being followed
by a lot of non-Fedora developers as well.
[To be honest, I first bought the
pro-"find-a-simple-enough-work-around-to-SecureBoot-issue" arguments. But,
reading through the arguments from KK, Adam and some others, I must ad
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
>> I am more concerned about the package maintenance level. At the
>> package maintenance level, it does not make sense to patch against the
>> upstream decision.
>
> It does. If upstream arbitrarily refuses to support a use
On 06/02/2012 12:31 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
What happens if you try and boot an unsigned image? I assume the error
you get is up to the BIOS folks? So, it could be misleading, confusing,
depressing or all three. It may be that people will see just "Failed to
secure boot" and think there's somethi
On 06/02/2012 05:47 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
There is no additional security provided by the feature as so far
described—only security theater. So I can't modify the kernel or
bootloader, great—but the kernel wouldn't have let me do that in the
first place unless it had an exploit. So I just
On 06/02/2012 03:28 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Per spec the machine simply falls back to attempting to execute the next
entry in the boot list. An implementation may provide some feedback that
that's the case, but there's no requirement fo
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On 06/03/2012 04:48 PM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 14:47 +0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827722 - for
>> python-qrcode, a dependency for GNU Health
>
> Don't forget to che
On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 21:37 +0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> > Exchanged against:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=821267 Review Request:
> > R-BiocGenerics - Generic functions for Bioconductor
> >
> Assigning to myself; will do that tomorrow. Thanks!
Thank you :)
Pierre
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Hi,
I'm looking for sponsor for the following proposed packages:
Lithuanian dictionaries for StarDict
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=781766
Double-array trie implementation library
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=733925
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First - If this is the wrong place for this please tell me where.
Rawhide (Fedora 18)
I have never been able to install and configure any of the 3.5.0
kernels. They install but fail to create a initramfs file. Hence they
will not boot.
I have seen two different 'failed' messages. One from today
Adam Williamson wrote:
> Frankly, I'd prefer it if we more strongly recommended that people do
> DVD/netinst upgrades.
I refuse to buy writable DVDs or CDs, because if I did I would be giving money
to the copyright lobby, helping to finance its campaign for ever-increasing
mass surveillance and
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 07:56:48PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Frankly, I'd prefer it if we more strongly recommended that people do
> > DVD/netinst upgrades.
>
> I refuse to buy writable DVDs or CDs, because if I did I would be giving
> money
> to the copyright lobb
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On 6/3/2012 1:56 PM, Björn Persson wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
>> Frankly, I'd prefer it if we more strongly recommended that
>> people do DVD/netinst upgrades.
>
> I refuse to buy writable DVDs or CDs, because if I did I would be
> giving money t
David gmail.com> writes:
> In all cases I did not get an initramfs. In all cases these kernels will
> not boot.
I have
kernel-3.4.0-1.fc18.x86_64
kernel-3.5.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc18.x86_64
kernel-3.5.0-0.rc0.git12.1.fc18.x86_64
installed, I have an initramfs for all of them, and testing the latest
Pavel,
On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 20:21 +0400, Pavel Alexeev wrote:
> It is main reason why I request provenpackager rights. In fedora 17 it
> was so painful because I several times asks build dependencies and
> then ask help to push updates too.
> I think in that turn now I can do all that myself, so
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 1:02 PM, David wrote:
> First - If this is the wrong place for this please tell me where.
>
> Rawhide (Fedora 18)
>
> I have never been able to install and configure any of the 3.5.0
> kernels. They install but fail to create a initramfs file. Hence they
> will not boot.
>
>
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Andre Robatino
wrote:
> David gmail.com> writes:
>
>> In all cases I did not get an initramfs. In all cases these kernels will
>> not boot.
>
> I have
>
> kernel-3.4.0-1.fc18.x86_64
> kernel-3.5.0-0.rc0.git11.1.fc18.x86_64
> kernel-3.5.0-0.rc0.git12.1.fc18.x86_64
>
Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> You can write .iso image to USB key¹ and boot from it, you know.
Even the installation DVD images? What I've heard is that that only works with
the live CD images.
(The copyright lobby taxes even USB keys in Sweden now, but I have some that I
bought before they started doi
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Björn Persson
wrote:
> Tomasz Torcz wrote:
>> You can write .iso image to USB key¹ and boot from it, you know.
>
> Even the installation DVD images? What I've heard is that that only works with
> the live CD images.
Indeed, even the DVD images. I did this on last
On 6/3/2012 4:26 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 1:02 PM, David wrote:
>> First - If this is the wrong place for this please tell me where.
>>
>> Rawhide (Fedora 18)
>>
>> I have never been able to install and configure any of the 3.5.0
>> kernels. They install but fail to create a
Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Björn Persson
> wrote:
> > Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> >> You can write .iso image to USB key¹ and boot from it, you know.
> >
> > Even the installation DVD images? What I've heard is that that only works
> > with the live CD images.
>
> Indeed, even
Josh Boyer gmail.com> writes:
> That sounds like a deltarpm problem. The kernel-devel package has that
> file in it, and it's a normal file not a symlink or something. If you
> download the full RPM and install it via RPM (not yum, or disable the
> deltarpm plugin) does it exist?
Yum-presto sh
On 03/06/12 21:26, Josh Boyer wrote:
In all cases I did not get an initramfs. In all cases these kernels will
not boot.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=826689
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=824981
I've had this a while, as discussed on test list.
I blame dracut, dra
On Qui, 2012-05-31 at 14:58 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 22:21 +0200, Caterpillar wrote:
>
> > I would like to share my experience about upgrading from Fedora 16 to
> > 17 a quiet number of machines.
> >
> > 100% percenteage computer base have putted my hands on, had pro
Hi all,
I've installed F17 x86_64 on my Thinkpad T400s and have not been able
to pair my razer orochi bluetooth mouse. When I put my F16 x86_64 HDD
back in and boot, the mouse works fine over bluetooth.
When I put the mouse into pairing mode, the bluetooth applet sees the
mouse. However,
On 06/04/2012 02:30 AM, Digimer wrote:
I can confirm that selinux is disabled (as sestatus shows 'disabled').
Any idea what I should next?
File a bug report against Gnome-Bluetooth you can try running this
"hciconfig hci0 sspmode 0" from the command line as root which was the
only way I man
Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus wrote:
On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 10:21 -0400, Randall Berry wrote:
Does anyone plan to package MATE 1.2[1] for Fedora? MATE is a promising
A Gnome 2.3 fork. If so I would like to be a co-maintainer. Or if
nobody is planning on it I'll gladly start the project with a li
Hello,
I am trying to install to install fedora 17 from 3 days.But failed due
to some warning.
I have downloaded the fedora 17 32 bit image from torrent.
I burned its image file and start installing fedora 17.
already Window 7 is installed in in my laptop /dev/sda1.
So, i am installing fedora 17 o
On 06/03/12 at 01:34pm, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 01:21:55PM +0200, Andrea Musuruane wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Andrea Musuruane wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
> > >> Basically the same kind of failure as the last several time
I've tried updating F16 to F17 with yum again today,
#yum -v --releasever=17 repolist
Loading "langpacks" plugin
Loading "presto" plugin
Loading "show-leaves" plugin
Adding zh_CN to language list
Adding C to language list
Config time: 0.011
Yum Version: 3.4.3
Setting up Package Sacks
pkgsack time:
On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 11:00 +0200, Alexander Boström wrote:
> fre 2012-06-01 klockan 09:48 -0700 skrev Adam Williamson:
>
> > Frankly, I'd prefer it if we more strongly recommended that people do
> > DVD/netinst upgrades. That path is less complex than preupgrade and
> > involves fewer moving part
On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 20:17 +0200, Andrea Musuruane wrote:
> * 1st attempt:
> Clean upgrade of Fedora 16 from DVD. I left the PC unattended while
> anaconda was upgrading RPM packages. I returned a couple of hours
> later and found a kernel panic. I was too angry to take note of the
> error. The s
On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 17:22 +0200, Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 17:00 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus wrote:
> > > is there an easy way to test packages except of using
> > >
> > > $ yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update
> >
> > yum inst
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
# Date: 2012-06-04
# Time: 15:00 UTC
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# Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net
Greetings testers!
It's meeting time again. Not much on the agenda this week, but we'd like
to cover the 'Fedora 18 plan
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