yum-arch : plan to be orphaned

2012-02-27 Thread Remi Collet
Hi, This old stuff allow to create header for EL-4 repository. As RHEL-4 will go EOL at the end of the month, I plan to orphan this package (in rawhide, will keep it in fedora 17) Any objection ? (As far as it's still work, and have no open bug, it's not a big problem to keep it in the repo if n

Re: FAS Country Code (fwd)

2012-02-27 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:17:00PM -0500, Paul Wouters wrote: > > I already re-set it to Canada, and it seemed to make no changes, and I > mailed ad...@fedoraproject.org a week or so ago. > > What is generating these, and who to contact to fix these? > See if you can change it now. Your country

Re: libglfw orphaned, but it has dependancies still in fedora ? (fwd)

2012-02-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > > > I was asked to look into this. libglfw is retired, but has dependancies > that need it. It was added to Fedora on Nov 16, and retured by notting > on July 25th, but it does not say why. > > Can this package be revived? If needed, I'll take

Intent to orphan gpodder in EL-6 branch

2012-02-27 Thread Matej Cepl
Looking at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/794971 (and its now depending bugs) I have decided that I don't want to maintain gpodder (and increasing number of packages, it seems) in EPEL-6 anymore since I don't use it at all. Does anybody want to take it or should I just orphaned and let it die in

F-17 Branched report: 20120227 changes

2012-02-27 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Mon Feb 27 08:15:07 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [HippoDraw] HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.i686 requires python-numarray HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.x86_64 requires python-numarray HippoDraw-

Re: Intent to orphan gpodder in EL-6 branch

2012-02-27 Thread Simon A. Erat
> > > Message: 16 > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:31:24 +0100 > From: Matej Cepl > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Cc: epel-devel-l...@redhat.com > Subject: Intent to orphan gpodder in EL-6 branch > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Looking at https://bugzil

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:44 AM, elison.ni...@gmail.com: > I forgot to add: > 8) Yum cannot use an iso image as a repo without mounting it. > Yast in suse allows to directly use iso images as repos. You also forgot to add: 1) A proposed alternative 2) Patches to fix any of the issues you pointed

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Frank Murphy
On 27/02/12 12:04, Josh Boyer wrote: You also forgot to add: 1) A proposed alternative 2) Patches to fix any of the issues you pointed out 3) Anything constructive at all in your ramblings. + quite a lot. "Never whine about the darkness, bring a torch" -- Regards, Frank "Jack of all, fubars"

File PPIx-Regexp-0.026.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2012-02-27 Thread Petr Pisar
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[perl-PPIx-Regexp] 0.026 bump

2012-02-27 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 7cd7e60b53ad3f33097a905c864a94fe850a5e6e Author: Petr Písař Date: Mon Feb 27 13:14:02 2012 +0100 0.026 bump .gitignore|1 + perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec |5 - sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/.gitign

[Bug 797862] perl-IO-TieCombine-1.002 is available

2012-02-27 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=797862 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added

Re: How to determine FAS from BZ email?

2012-02-27 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 02/23/2012 04:48 PM, Ken Dreyer wrote: I'm in agreement with this. Do we need to open a ticket with the FPC? https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/147 -- Miroslav Suchy Red Hat Satellite Engineering -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/li

[Bug 797867] perl-XML-LibXML-1.93 is available

2012-02-27 Thread bugzilla
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Re: Clarify our position on forks (was: Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2012-02-27 at 18UTC))

2012-02-27 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 08:07 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote on 27.02.2012 04:21: > > > > #topic #810 Clarify our position on forks .fesco 810 > > It's just a statement that is asked for in the ticket, but nevertheless: > Shouldn't issues like this be discussed on this list fir

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread elison.ni...@gmail.com
On Mon, Feb 27 12:13:07 UTC 2012, Josh Boyer jwboyer at gmail.com wrote >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:44 AM, elison.niven at gmail.com: >> I forgot to add: >> 8) Yum cannot use an iso image as a repo without mounting it. >> Yast in suse allows to directly use iso images as repos. > You also forgot

collectd & usrmove (iptables)

2012-02-27 Thread Andrew Elwell
Hi folks, I've been working on packaging collectd 5.x for work purposes and I notice there's been no movement on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=743894 since its request. There were 2 things preventing me from building directly using the existing spec file - one was autoconf related (s

[Bug 797864] perl-ORLite-1.96 is available

2012-02-27 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 796143] perl-PAR-Packer-1.013 is available

2012-02-27 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796143 Bug 796143 depends on bug 796298, which changed state. Bug 796298 Summary: Review Request: perl-Tk-EntryCheck - Interface to Tk:

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Frank Murphy
On 27/02/12 13:52, elison.ni...@gmail.com wrote: Alternative 2 : Make the following changes to yum to make yum better: 1) yum should maintain status of installed packages locally. And it should not need to fetch repository information when user tries yum info Reason to have this feature : It see

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 19:22 +0530, elison.ni...@gmail.com wrote: > 1) yum should maintain status of installed packages locally. And it > should not need to fetch repository information when user tries > yum info > Reason to have this feature : It seems logical to have information > about an instal

Don't be afraid to ask for help

2012-02-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
I am sending this because, we have a lot of FTBFS packages which I have see at least one blog griping about, I accidentally fixed something that was blocking other work (in the sense that I didn't know that other work that I wouldn't have to do was waiting for this problem to be solved) and I fixed

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2012-02-27 Thread Petr Pisar
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Re: Don't be afraid to ask for help

2012-02-27 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > I am sending this because, we have a lot of FTBFS packages which I have > see at least one blog griping about, I accidentally fixed something that > was blocking other work (in the sense that I didn't know that other work > that I wouldn't

Re: collectd & usrmove (iptables)

2012-02-27 Thread Alan Pevec
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Andrew Elwell wrote: > 2) [mutterings about maintainer non-responsiveness for collectd > removed as I've just seen him update BZ #797773 ] Feel free to apply as a co-maintainer :) > 3) Given that this is a major version bump (even if there's a > backwards compat

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 19:22 +0530, elison.ni...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27 12:13:07 UTC 2012, Josh Boyer jwboyer at gmail.com wrote > > >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:44 AM, elison.niven at gmail.com: > >> I forgot to add: > >> 8) Yum cannot use an iso image as a repo without mounting it. > >

Re: Clarify our position on forks (was: Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2012-02-27 at 18UTC))

2012-02-27 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 08:14:13AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Personally, my stance on this is that, provided that the forks are > properly renamed such that they will not conflict with other forks of > the same codebase, there's no reason to disallow them. As mentioned by > Toshio in the t

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 14:00:51 +, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 27/02/12 13:52, elison.ni...@gmail.com wrote: > > > >4) Quit on single CTRL-C. Users expect an application to quit on > >pressing CTRL-C. > >Reason to have this feature : Better user experience > > never used ctrl-c, normally use

Re: Clarify our position on forks (was: Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2012-02-27 at 18UTC))

2012-02-27 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 08:14:13AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> Personally, my stance on this is that, provided that the forks are >> properly renamed such that they will not conflict with other forks of >> the same codebase, there'

Re: collectd & usrmove (iptables)

2012-02-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:59:50 +0100 Alan Pevec wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Andrew Elwell > wrote: > > 2) [mutterings about maintainer non-responsiveness for collectd > > removed as I've just seen him update BZ #797773 ] > > Feel free to apply as a co-maintainer :) > > > 3) Given t

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2012-02-27 Thread Petr Pisar
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[perl-Marpa-XS] 1.004000 bump

2012-02-27 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 2bfefc34133e742a3fe8d40ca925fb81d9828239 Author: Petr Písař Date: Mon Feb 27 16:39:05 2012 +0100 1.004000 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-Marpa-XS.spec | 68 +-- sources|2 +- 3 files changed, 41 insertions(+)

Re: collectd & usrmove (iptables)

2012-02-27 Thread Andrew Elwell
> Feel free to apply as a co-maintainer :) OK I may just do that if these patches look OK. > What we might want to do is package up a parallel installable > 'collectd5' for epel6. This would allow people to migrate to it as > desired. I'm not sure how difficult it will be to parallel install it >

Re: collectd & usrmove (iptables)

2012-02-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 16:40:10 +0100, Andrew Elwell wrote: > > would collectd5 then obsolete collectd on epel6 then? > (not sure how the logistics of paralell (or not) installs work No, that can't be right. If it obsoleted it, you wouldn't be able to install the older version or do updates w

Re: collectd & usrmove (iptables)

2012-02-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:40:10 +0100 Andrew Elwell wrote: > > Feel free to apply as a co-maintainer :) > > OK I may just do that if these patches look OK. > > > What we might want to do is package up a parallel installable > > 'collectd5' for epel6. This would allow people to migrate to it as > >

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread John Reiser
On 02/27/2012 07:29 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 14:00:51 +, > Frank Murphy wrote: >> On 27/02/12 13:52, elison.ni...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> 4) Quit on single CTRL-C. Users expect an application to quit on >>> pressing CTRL-C. >>> Reason to have this feature : Bette

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 08:00:56 -0800, John Reiser wrote: > > That behavior (no response to ^C [SIGINT] within 5 seconds) is a bug. > It's a _transaction_, right? So either it completes successfully, > or fails with no apparent lasting effects (except log files, delay, etc.) > So yum should:

"master" branch still invokes build in f17-candidate??

2012-02-27 Thread Tom Lane
I'm definitely checked out in the master branch: [tgl@rh3 master]$ git push Counting objects: 11, done. Delta compression using up to 4 threads. Compressing objects: 100% (6/6), done. Writing objects: 100% (6/6), 1.13 KiB, done. Total 6 (delta 3), reused 0 (delta 0) To ssh://t...@pkgs.fedoraprojec

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 02/27/2012 06:00 PM, John Reiser wrote: On 02/27/2012 07:29 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 14:00:51 +, Frank Murphy wrote: On 27/02/12 13:52, elison.ni...@gmail.com wrote: 4) Quit on single CTRL-C. Users expect an application to quit on pressing CTRL-C. Reason t

Re: Clarify our position on forks (was: Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2012-02-27 at 18UTC))

2012-02-27 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 15:18 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 08:14:13AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > Personally, my stance on this is that, provided that the forks are > > properly renamed such that they will not conflict with other forks of > > the same codebase, t

Re: Clarify our position on forks (was: Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2012-02-27 at 18UTC))

2012-02-27 Thread Bill Nottingham
Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) said: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 08:14:13AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> Personally, my stance on this is that, provided that the forks are > >> properly renamed such that they will not conflict with

Re: "master" branch still invokes build in f17-candidate??

2012-02-27 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 02/27/2012 09:09 AM, Tom Lane wrote: I'm definitely checked out in the master branch: [tgl@rh3 master]$ git push Counting objects: 11, done. Delta compression using up to 4 threads. Compressing objects: 100% (6/6), done. Writing objects: 100% (6/6), 1.13 KiB, done. Total 6 (delta 3), reused 0

File Tk-ToolBar-0.10.zip uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2012-02-27 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Tk-ToolBar: c21f0f0320651eac05c5c6071f87df35 Tk-ToolBar-0.10.zip -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/li

Re: "master" branch still invokes build in f17-candidate??

2012-02-27 Thread Tom Lane
Orion Poplawski writes: > On 02/27/2012 09:09 AM, Tom Lane wrote: >> WTF? Do I need to fix this, and if so how? > git pull > (to bring in the f17 branch and mark devel as f18) Hmm, that package indeed hadn't had f17 git pull'd yet. (I had scripted a git pull in all my package directories after

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Sandro Mani
On 02/27/2012 04:29 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 14:00:51 +, Frank Murphy wrote: On 27/02/12 13:52, elison.ni...@gmail.com wrote: 4) Quit on single CTRL-C. Users expect an application to quit on pressing CTRL-C. Reason to have this feature : Better user experienc

Re: Building and exporting libgbm from the mesa package

2012-02-27 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 22:29 +0100, Ilyes Gouta wrote: > Cool! That's what I want to be part of, too :) > > Could these be installed on a Fedora 16? F16 is still on Mesa 7.11.x because Mesa 8.0 drops the DRI1 drivers. Which means I don't intend to do any work on F16 beyond keeping up with the 7.11

[perl-Tk-ToolBar] initial import (rhbz#795605)

2012-02-27 Thread Iain Arnell
commit 8c046a4affe288395d5dfebcfe9f3ce29bad8a91 Author: Iain Arnell Date: Mon Feb 27 09:27:10 2012 -0700 initial import (rhbz#795605) .gitignore |1 + perl-Tk-ToolBar-no-demos.patch | 14 + perl-Tk-ToolBar.spec | 62 +++

[perl-Tk-ToolBar] additional (build-)dependencies following review

2012-02-27 Thread Iain Arnell
commit c4d60adc617607d1e0093f82913d842b7d44e3a7 Author: Iain Arnell Date: Mon Feb 27 09:29:32 2012 -0700 additional (build-)dependencies following review perl-Tk-ToolBar.spec | 12 +++- 1 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Tk-ToolBar.spec b/per

[perl-Tk-ToolBar/f17] (2 commits) ...additional (build-)dependencies following review

2012-02-27 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: 8c046a4... initial import (rhbz#795605) (*) c4d60ad... additional (build-)dependencies following review (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mail

Re: Xaw3d 1.6.1 soname bump

2012-02-27 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 09:53 -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote: > I'm going to be building Xaw3d 1.6.1 in rawhide shortly. This includes > a soname bump. The following packages are affected: > > gv > xdvik > xfig > xvkbd > > I will be rebuilding them as well. If all goes well, we may push to > F1

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 02/27/2012 11:44 AM, Sandro Mani wrote: > will leave your system in a state where manual cleanup is likely >> required. > One scenario which I often hit is forgetting to change the proxy > settings in yum.conf and then trying to update. Yum will clearly fail to > download repodata, but it will

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread drago01
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > > Rpm's so-called transactions aren't ACID by any stretch of imagination, it's > just a rather common misunderstanding to expect them to be. They should be though (yeah I know way easier said then done). -- devel mailing list devel@list

[389-devel] please review ticket #74 - Create schema for DNA plugin - revised Makefile changes

2012-02-27 Thread Mark Reynolds
Revised the Makefile changes(didn't run autogen previously) Original Message Subject: [389-devel] please review ticket #74 - Create schema for DNA plugin Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:05:57 -0500 From: Mark Reynolds Reply-To: 389 Directory server developer discussion. <389

Re: "master" branch still invokes build in f17-candidate??

2012-02-27 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 27.2.2012 17:09, Tom Lane napsal(a): I'm definitely checked out in the master branch: [tgl@rh3 master]$ git push Counting objects: 11, done. Delta compression using up to 4 threads. Compressing objects: 100% (6/6), done. Writing objects: 100% (6/6), 1.13 KiB, done. Total 6 (delta 3), reused

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:56:12AM -0500, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 02/27/2012 11:44 AM, Sandro Mani wrote: > > > will leave your system in a state where manual cleanup is likely > >> required. > > One scenario which I often hit is forgetting to change the proxy > > settings in yum.conf and then

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread elison.ni...@gmail.com
I got many replies to my mail that answer many of my questions. Thanks to all. > There is a significant delay between these two pieces: > Setting up Upgrade Process > Resolving Dependencies >...is this when you are doing a full "yum upgrade" or upgrading a > specific package too? How long is th

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > I don't believe yum has a way to roll back transactions reliably. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemRollbackWithBtrfs Chris Murphy -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listi

Re: libglfw orphaned, but it has dependancies still in fedora ? (fwd)

2012-02-27 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012, Peter Robinson wrote: I was asked to look into this. libglfw is retired, but has dependancies that need it. It was added to Fedora on Nov 16, and retured by notting on July 25th, but it does not say why. Can this package be revived? If needed, I'll take it on. This is appar

Re: libglfw orphaned, but it has dependancies still in fedora ? (fwd)

2012-02-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:35:47 -0500 (EST) Paul Wouters wrote: > Well, I understand it can be revived. I guess what I was really asking > was why was it orphaned? There might have been a legal reason or > something I'm not aware of. pfj's account was marked inactive (proibibly by not changing pass

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:24:55 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > I don't believe yum has a way to roll back transactions reliably. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemRollbackWithBtrfs Yeah being able to rollback file syst

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread drago01
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:24:55 -0700, >  Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> >> > I don't believe yum has a way to roll back transactions reliably. >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:24:55 -0700, > Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemRollbackWithBtrfs > > Yeah being able to rollback file systems will help in some cases. It > isn't a complete answer for the c

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:22 PM, drago01 wrote: >> > > This fixable by taking the system "down" during the update (close all > apps and services) similar like what windows and os x do. At least on OS X this behavior depends on what's being updated. Most things are updated in place. Chris Murphy

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2012-02-27 at 18UTC)

2012-02-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2012-02-27) === Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-27/fesco.2012-02-27-18.00.log.html . Meeting summary

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

2012-02-27 Thread Jesse Keating
On 2/24/12 12:10 PM, Ville Skyttä wrote: On 2012-02-23 20:06, Jesse Keating wrote: Could you help me figure out why path completion with ~/ isn't working in fedpkg, but with full paths it is? I assume there is something wrong in the (contributed) bash completion file. https://fedorahosted.or

Re: "master" branch still invokes build in f17-candidate??

2012-02-27 Thread Jesse Keating
On 2/27/12 8:37 AM, Tom Lane wrote: Orion Poplawski writes: On 02/27/2012 09:09 AM, Tom Lane wrote: WTF? Do I need to fix this, and if so how? git pull (to bring in the f17 branch and mark devel as f18) Hmm, that package indeed hadn't had f17 git pull'd yet. (I had scripted a git pull i

Fedora 18 Development - orphaned & retired packages

2012-02-27 Thread Bill Nottingham
Just a quick note - now that Fedora 18 development is open, we encourage mantainers who are planning on orphaning or retiring their packages to do so as early in the process as possible. That gives other maintainers a longer runway to fix dependencies and possibly pick up maintenance if they so des

Provenpackager? Want to help out?

2012-02-27 Thread Jon Ciesla
Hey! As you're aware, as of F15 we changed our default init system from sysvinit to systemd. But we have lots and lots of packages with daemons, and not all have thus far been migrated. Some maintainers haven't responded, some are too busy, some aren't sure how to go about it. In many cases, un

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 12:25 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:24:55 -0700, > > Chris Murphy wrote: > >> > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemRollbackWithBtrfs > > > > Yeah being able to rollback file

Re: Provenpackager? Want to help out?

2012-02-27 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/27/2012 08:42 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: Hey! As you're aware, as of F15 we changed our default init system from sysvinit to systemd. But we have lots and lots of packages with daemons, and not all have thus far been migrated. Some maintainers haven't responded, some are too busy, some aren't

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 17:45 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:56:12AM -0500, Genes MailLists wrote: > > On 02/27/2012 11:44 AM, Sandro Mani wrote: > > > > > will leave your system in a state where manual cleanup is likely > > >> required. > > > One scenario which I ofte

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 27, 2012, at 1:56 PM, James Antill wrote: > On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 12:25 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> It's a very broad rollback implementation. I think an eventual goal for the >> yum plugin, once btrfs is stable, is to make it more flexible. Maybe where >> /home is exempt from roll

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread John Reiser
On 02/27/2012 08:11 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: > Rpm's so-called transactions aren't ACID by any stretch of imagination, it's > just a rather common misunderstanding to expect them to be. OK, so both rpm and yum could do better: at the first mention of 'transaction', then the documentation (manu

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 04:08:53PM -0500, James Antill wrote: > There are at least 3 classes of bugs here: > > 1. rpm overrides C-c handling when you do various rpm operations, so > sometimes what look like "simple" changes mean C-c stops working for > parts of yum. > > 2. DNS handing in Glibc e

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 21:22 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 04:08:53PM -0500, James Antill wrote: > > There are at least 3 classes of bugs here: > > How much of this is to do with %post scripts? Not much, in that scripts run in a separate process. Everything, in that w

Self Introduction

2012-02-27 Thread Bas van den Dikkenberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I am Bas van den Dikkenberg, I'm just a new comer, for fedora but use linux for many years now and Dutch is my first language. I'm Dutch, love Linux. And I've used some versions of Linux: Fedora, Ubuntu, Opensuse, and so on. First Linux I

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* John Reiser [27/02/2012 22:50] : > > OK, so both rpm and yum could do better: at the first mention of > 'transaction', > then the documentation (manual page, ...) should specify "not ACID". It would help if you filed a bug (preferably with a patch attached). > There is a database involved, and

Re: Self Introduction

2012-02-27 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Bas van den Dikkenberg wrote: As my first project I want to add burb to fedoraproject. Hello! To get started you should read the Fedora wiki. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.

Re: "master" branch still invokes build in f17-candidate??

2012-02-27 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jesse Keating wrote: > I was looking for a way to determine the behavior of the master branch > (for the sake of dist values) without hitting the network, as that would > break git's ability to work offline. The best I could come up with at > the time this code was written was to check and see wha

Re: "master" branch still invokes build in f17-candidate??

2012-02-27 Thread Jesse Keating
On 2/27/12 5:53 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jesse Keating wrote: I was looking for a way to determine the behavior of the master branch (for the sake of dist values) without hitting the network, as that would break git's ability to work offline. The best I could come up with at the time this code w

Re: Provenpackager? Want to help out?

2012-02-27 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 14:42 -0600, Jon Ciesla wrote: > Hey! > > As you're aware, as of F15 we changed our default init system from > sysvinit to systemd. But we have lots and lots of packages with > daemons, and not all have thus far been migrated. Hi, 3 things 1- I like have help on convert

[perl-Tk-ToolBar/f16] (2 commits) ...additional (build-)dependencies following review

2012-02-27 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: 8c046a4... initial import (rhbz#795605) (*) c4d60ad... additional (build-)dependencies following review (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mail

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 15:04 +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > 2) yum is currently downloading repository information separately for > > each user. > > It can use the same downloaded repository information for all users. > > For example : root did yum install followed by > > Non root user did :

Re: Don't be afraid to ask for help

2012-02-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 08:42 -0600, Jon Ciesla wrote: > Seconded. > > And if anyone has gcc47 or libpng FTBFS issues, this is a great place > to ask for help on them. Well, pulseaudio doesn't currently build, and that's preventing us from fixing the bug that audio doesn't work in F17. The problem

DHCPv6 *still* broken for F17 alpha

2012-02-27 Thread Paul Wouters
Can we please address the following bug that is almsot two years old. This bug causes long delays for people enabling IPV6, and causes Fedora to not get any connectivity on IPv6 only networks, unless you disable/reconfigure ip6tables manually https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=552099 ht

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 11:24 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > I don't believe yum has a way to roll back transactions reliably. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemRollbackWithBtrfs Yeah...you might want to remember the context of

Help needed for virtualbox ( Was Provenpackager? Want to help out? )

2012-02-27 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/28/2012 02:09 AM, Sérgio Basto wrote: Hi, 3 things 1- I like have help on convert: vboxweb-service from VirtualBox on rpmfusion. "http://cvs.rpmfusion.org/viewvc/*checkout*/rpms/VirtualBox-OSE/F-17/vboxweb-service?revision=1.1&root=free"; off-list First of all this is for the rpmfusion li

[Test-Announce] livecd-tools testing request

2012-02-27 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey, folks. There's a new livecd-tools build which needs testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-2313/livecd-tools-17.6-1.fc17 It should fix two bugs I came across in Alpha testing: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796419 - "F17 Alpha RC4 DVD written to USB with l

Re: DHCPv6 *still* broken for F17 alpha

2012-02-27 Thread Dan Williams
On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 23:27 -0500, Paul Wouters wrote: > Can we please address the following bug that is almsot two years old. > This bug causes long delays for people enabling IPV6, and causes > Fedora to not get any connectivity on IPv6 only networks, unless you > disable/reconfigure ip6tables ma

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 11:24 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> >>> I don't believe yum has a way to roll back transactions reliably. >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemRollbac

Re: Issues with yum

2012-02-27 Thread elison.ni...@gmail.com
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > What's the expectation of a user hitting control-c in the middle of a yum > update anyway? My first inclination is it makes zero sense, like habaneros in > a smoothie. As stated earlier, the expectation is that when yum is still setting up