Re: Fedora clean up process seems to be seriously broken...

2011-11-25 Thread Henrik Nordström
ons 2011-11-23 klockan 12:30 +0100 skrev Vít Ondruch: > it is interesting that there are still some packages > from F14 and older Fedora releases. That is sign that these packages are > un-maintained and they are FTBFS. Indeed, and many more are. But we do have a process for dealing with unmain

Re: epel 6 fedpkg build or koji scratch builds failing — I'm stumped

2011-11-25 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 17:26 +0100, Jim Meyering wrote: > config.h: > rm -f $@ $@-t; > \ I'd rather not remove the target right at the beginning... > { \ > ec

Self introduction

2011-11-25 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Hello Fedora developers, I'm Giovanni Campagna and I'm a first year student of informatics engineering at Politecnico di Milano. Some of you may already know me because I'm also an upstream contributor and part-time developer for GNOME (in particular in the Shell area), but this time I decided to

Re: epel 6 fedpkg build or koji scratch builds failing — I'm stumped

2011-11-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 06:49:13PM +0100, Nils Philippsen wrote: > On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 17:26 +0100, Jim Meyering wrote: > > config.h: > > rm -f $@ $@-t; > > \ > > I'd rather not remove the target right at the beginning... Why not? Y

A software center for Fedora

2011-11-25 Thread Giovanni Campagna
As promised in my previous mail, here is what I find that's lacking in Fedora, compared to the direct competition (Ubuntu, Debian, OpenSuse), and recently even some proprietary systems: we don't have an application installer. While we do have two nice UIs (gpk-application and apper) for package man

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-25 Thread Brendan Jones
On 11/26/2011 12:03 AM, Giovanni Campagna wrote: > As promised in my previous mail, here is what I find that's lacking in > Fedora, compared to the direct competition (Ubuntu, Debian, OpenSuse), > and recently even some proprietary systems: we don't have an application > installer. Are we in a rac

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-25 Thread drago01
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Brendan Jones wrote: > On 11/26/2011 12:03 AM, Giovanni Campagna wrote: >> As promised in my previous mail, here is what I find that's lacking in >> Fedora, compared to the direct competition (Ubuntu, Debian, OpenSuse), >> and recently even some proprietary system

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-25 Thread Heiko Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Am 26.11.2011 00:18, schrieb drago01: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Brendan Jones > wrote: >> On 11/26/2011 12:03 AM, Giovanni Campagna wrote: >>> As promised in my previous mail, here is what I find that's >>> lacking in Fedora, compared to

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-25 Thread Laurin
> > Since this is free software, we already have a complete software center > available, straight from launchpad.net/software-center. > (Actually, it doesn't yet work on Fedora, partly because of unmet > dependencies, but those are just technical bugs, and I don't think it > would be difficult to h

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-25 Thread Giovanni Campagna
Il giorno sab, 26/11/2011 alle 00.24 +0100, Heiko Adams ha scritto: > Am 26.11.2011 00:18, schrieb drago01: > > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Brendan Jones > > wrote: > >> On 11/26/2011 12:03 AM, Giovanni Campagna wrote: > >>> As promised in my previous mail, here is what I find that's > >>>

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-25 Thread Rex Dieter
Giovanni Campagna wrote: > Long long ago (march 2009), a package was proposed for inclusion, which > contained application data, in a format understood by software-center, > for fedora at that time. This package was initially rejected, then one > year later FESCo ruled that it did not actually bre

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Giovanni Campagna wrote: > While we do have two nice UIs (gpk-application and apper) for package > management, having to deal with packages, with no icons and no > translations is not appropriate for end users. Instead, I think it would > be appriopriate to follow the Ubuntu path and recognize the

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-25 Thread Florian Müllner
While I agree that our app-install story sucks, I'm far less convinced that we need yet-another-downstream solution. Florian -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Florian Müllner wrote: > While I agree that our app-install story sucks, I'm far less convinced > that we need yet-another-downstream solution. We indeed don't need one, Apper has all the required support upstream, we just need to get it in. (That's in fact one of the reasons why it got renamed

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/26/2011 04:33 AM, Giovanni Campagna wrote: > I hope that some people from the relevant group will point me to the > right place (perhaps starting from what happened to > fedora-app-install...), and I hope you like the idea in general. > > Giovanni You want to start here http://alex.eftimi

Re: A Glorious Vision of Our Shared Update Feedback Future (bodhi, karma, and proventesters, oh my)

2011-11-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 08:44 +0100, David Tardon wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 02:03:16PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 21:58 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > > > With the above information what benefits/value will we have by having > > > proven tester over

[Test-Announce] 2011-11-28 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2011-11-25 Thread Adam Williamson
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2011-11-28 # Time: 16:00 UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! This is a reminder of the upcoming QA meeting. Please add any topic suggestions to the meeting wiki