Re: Fedora clean up process seems to be seriously broken...

2011-11-24 Thread David Tardon
This is just a collection of random thougths on some of the ideas you presented in this thread. > Nobody is putting burden on anyone other then the maintainers themselves. > > Either they do it directly to themselves ... or it's being > done by other sloppy/non responsive/absent maintainers indire

systemd, disabling cryptsetup device

2011-11-24 Thread Jan Vcelak
Hi everyone! Is there a way of forcing systemd not to mount an encrypted partition when booting the system? I have one encrypted partition (on LVM) on my laptop, which I do not want to have mounted automatically. I'm mounting it only when I need it with a simple script. With F15, masking the c

Re: Fedora clean up process seems to be seriously broken...

2011-11-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 08:18:11 -0600, RS (Richard) wrote: > I didn't imply that there should be less documentation or guidelines, > only that it's more than a person can "grok" at one time. That's too vague for me to understand it. Some topics are covered by entire books, for example even several

Re: Fedora clean up process seems to be seriously broken...

2011-11-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:49:00 +0100, I wrote: > [...] > some level of perseverance, some sort of prove that they are willing to > [...] s/prove/proof/ -- Not an attempt at fixing all embarrassing typos, however. ;) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.

Re: Dropping the ownership model

2011-11-24 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
Excerpts from Kevin Kofler's message of Tue Nov 22 19:24:22 +0100 2011: > Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > I wouldn't want to get rid of the ownership model altogether, I think > > there should be a specific person responsible for handling bug > > reports/RFEs. When a group is responsible to handle somet

Re: gdk-pixbuf being retired

2011-11-24 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2011-11-22, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:40:14 -0600 > Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >> I picked up gdk-pixbuf because freetennis supposedly depended on it >> but actually doesn't. (Though freetennis if also FTBFS for another >> reason so clearing the dependency isn't simple.) Though

Re: epel 6 fedpkg build or koji scratch builds failing — I'm stumped

2011-11-24 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:20:50AM -0500, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: > On 11/23/2011 10:08 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > On 11/23/2011 07:57 AM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: > >> > >> I can build glusterfs fine on real RHEL6.1 using rpmbuild, both x86_64 > >> and i686 with `rpmbuild -bb ...` and `rpmbui

Re: gdk-pixbuf being retired

2011-11-24 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2011-11-24, Petr Pisar wrote: > > xmms-xosd is subpackage of xosd. xosd requires gdk-pixbuf-0 only because > of the XMMS plug-in. > > Because I use xosd but XMMS, I'm taking xosd to continue it without XMMS > extension. > xosd has been submitted for re-review

Re: epel 6 fedpkg build or koji scratch builds failing — I'm stumped

2011-11-24 Thread Paul Howarth
On 11/24/2011 01:54 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:20:50AM -0500, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: >> On 11/23/2011 10:08 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: >>> On 11/23/2011 07:57 AM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: I can build glusterfs fine on real RHEL6.1 using rpmbuild, both x86

Re: epel 6 fedpkg build or koji scratch builds failing — I'm stumped

2011-11-24 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 03:01:03PM +, Paul Howarth wrote: > http://marc.info/?l=pptpclient-devel&m=132102054518031 This is indeed rather unexpected behaviour of make! BTW I think your patch is incomplete, since it will create an incomplete config.h if the disk runs out of space. I think this

Re: epel 6 fedpkg build or koji scratch builds failing — I'm stumped

2011-11-24 Thread Jim Meyering
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 03:01:03PM +, Paul Howarth wrote: >> http://marc.info/?l=pptpclient-devel&m=132102054518031 > > This is indeed rather unexpected behaviour of make! > > BTW I think your patch is incomplete, since it will create an > incomplete config.h if the

Re: epel 6 fedpkg build or koji scratch builds failing — I'm stumped

2011-11-24 Thread Jim Meyering
Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: ... >>> Perhaps there's some extra fedpkg flag I should be using for epel builds? >> >> Perhaps try without parallel make? > > Yes, that makes it work. > > Thanks for the tip. When running make from the command line, I always use -j$N, for 1 < N. But of course, I rarely ty

Re: epel 6 fedpkg build or koji scratch builds failing — I'm stumped

2011-11-24 Thread Jim Meyering
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 03:01:03PM +, Paul Howarth wrote: >> http://marc.info/?l=pptpclient-devel&m=132102054518031 > > This is indeed rather unexpected behaviour of make! Actually it should not be unexpected. Whenever you update a target non-atomically that can hap

Re: Dropping the ownership model

2011-11-24 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mardi 22 novembre 2011 à 13:20 -0500, Aleksandar Kurtakov a écrit : > As much as we have disagreed on the previous topic we might have similar > thoughts here :). > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" > > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > > > S

Re: A Glorious Vision of Our Shared Update Feedback Future (bodhi, karma, and proventesters, oh my)

2011-11-24 Thread David Tardon
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 02:03:16PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 21:58 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > With the above information what benefits/value will we have by having > > proven tester over fas tester hitting the panic button > > ( since no addinal testin