Adam Williamson redhat.com> writes:
> > Yeah, I got that bit. But I'm sure all you folks are in the know, so I
> > asked.
>
> No more than anyone - there really is no cabal ;) All I know is what the
> GNOME / desktop team have said in public, but what they've said seems to
> point in a Shell-y
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:21:08 + (UTC) JB wrote:
> http://pastebin.com/QsD9LDxb
This log shows no excessive delay during shutdown.
systemd was asked to power off here:
[ 979.583227] systemd[1]: Got D-Bus request:
org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager.StartUnit() on /org/freedesktop/systemd1
[ 979.
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:39:25 + (UTC) JB wrote:
> I see these NetworkManager activities that are repeated and seem to be
> identical (if this is a problem, then systemd or NetworkManager
> related ?):
That looks like some kind of a logging oddity, where the same messages
reach the kmsg buffer tw
Dne 2.11.2011 19:06, Jesse Keating napsal(a):
> As noted on IRC, but repeated here for the rest of the class, I've
> been buried in the work necessary to convert the internal Red Hat
> repos from cvs to git, much like we did in Fedora. This required
> some changes to fedpkg, particularly moving mo
Compose started at Fri Nov 4 08:15:08 UTC 2011
Broken deps for x86_64
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4ti2-1.3.2-7.fc17.1.x86_64 requires libgmp.so.3()(64bit)
1:anerley-0.3.0-5.fc17.i686 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.15
1:anerley-0.3.0-5.fc17.i6
commit 1d66843d905bfe13532d7ce080d8deae5d96ff0b
Author: Paul Howarth
Date: Fri Nov 4 13:09:48 2011 +
Update to 4.056
- Update to 4.056
- In InetBase.pm v0.04:
- Improve inet_aton to overcome broken gethostbyname found in NetBSD and
OpenBSD
perl-NetAddr
Am 30.10.2011 23:02, schrieb Lennart Poettering:
> On Mon, 24.10.11 13:05, Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay.net) wrote:
>
> Here's an attempt to summarize the rationale for merging /bin, /sbin,
> /usr/sbin into /usr/bin with different words collecting the various points
> raised:
>
> a) the split betw
On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:25:54 + (UTC)
Bojan Smojver wrote:
> Adam Williamson redhat.com> writes:
>
> > > Yeah, I got that bit. But I'm sure all you folks are in the know,
> > > so I asked.
> >
> > No more than anyone - there really is no cabal ;) All I know is
> > what the GNOME / desktop te
On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 23:09 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> But based on what they've said in the past, I expect that once most
> hardware that previously needed the fallback mode is covered, fallback
> mode will die. AIUI, fallback mode isn't meant to be a GNOME
> 2-by-stealth for Shell refuse
The lightweight tag 'perl-NetAddr-IP-4.056-1.fc17' was created pointing to:
1d66843... Update to 4.056
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On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 23:09 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
>>
>> But based on what they've said in the past, I expect that once most
>> hardware that previously needed the fallback mode is covered, fallback
>> mode will die. AIUI, fallback
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 23:09:12 -0700,
Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 03:42 +, Bojan Smojver wrote:
>
> But based on what they've said in the past, I expect that once most
> hardware that previously needed the fallback mode is covered, fallback
> mode will die. AIUI, fallba
On 4 November 2011 13:21, seth vidal wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:25:54 + (UTC)
> Bojan Smojver wrote:
>
>> Adam Williamson redhat.com> writes:
>>
>> > > Yeah, I got that bit. But I'm sure all you folks are in the know,
>> > > so I asked.
>> >
>> > No more than anyone - there really is no
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 14:58:47 +0100,
Ilyes Gouta wrote:
>
> One nice outcome is that we could end up with an optimized reference
> s/w renderer (and kernel/user land stack) for all platforms. Which is
> cool! :)
The other graphics related improvement looking possible for F17 is complete
Ope
On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 14:10:57 +
Ian Malone wrote:
> On 4 November 2011 13:21, seth vidal
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:25:54 + (UTC)
> > Bojan Smojver wrote:
> >
> >> Adam Williamson redhat.com> writes:
> >>
> >> > > Yeah, I got that bit. But I'm sure all you folks are in the
> >> >
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 14:10 +, Ian Malone wrote:
> It's frustrating to be stuck on
> overview mode on a four core machine while gnome-shell is doing
> /something/ but you don't know what. If it worked fluidly it would be
> okay. Actually, the responsiveness issue isn't limited just to
> overvie
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> On 4 November 2011 13:21, seth vidal wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:25:54 + (UTC)
>> Bojan Smojver wrote:
>>
>>> Adam Williamson redhat.com> writes:
>>>
>>> > > Yeah, I got that bit. But I'm sure all you folks are in the know,
>>> > > so
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 23:17:21 -0700,
Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> It'd be great if we can work with the anaconda team closely to try and
> get involved all along the line in the UI rewrite stuff, and see if that
> can reduce the pressure around release times - let's put that on the
> table for
Tell us again where to find that "gnome shell for dummies" doc?
I tried to give it a fair trial, but I found it so
non-intuitive/counter-intuitive that I gave up after an hour and
switched to Forced Fallback Mode.
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On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote:
> Tell us again where to find that "gnome shell for dummies" doc?
The cheat sheet? http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet
> I tried to give it a fair trial, but I found it so
> non-intuitive/counter-intuitive that I gave up after an h
JB gmail.com> writes:
>
> Michal Schmidt redhat.com> writes:
>
> > ...
> > Show us the shutdown-log.txt.
> ...
>
> Here you go:
>
> http://pastebin.com/EHTiuiR8
>
> JB
>
This is related to selinux:
...
[ 17.701301] sandbox[868]: Starting sandbox/etc/rc.d/init.d/sandbox: line 58:
succes
JB gmail.com> writes:
>
> JB gmail.com> writes:
>
> >
> > Michal Schmidt redhat.com> writes:
> >
> > > ...
> > > Show us the shutdown-log.txt.
> > ...
> >
> > Here you go:
> >
> > http://pastebin.com/EHTiuiR8
> >
> > JB
> >
>
> I see these NetworkManager activities that are repeated an
Michal Schmidt redhat.com> writes:
>
> On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:21:08 + (UTC) JB wrote:
> > http://pastebin.com/QsD9LDxb
>
> This log shows no excessive delay during shutdown.
> ...
> Are you sure the long delay occured in the test this log is from?
>
> Michal
I claimed that the 2 min delay
it seems there is a bug but i can not figure out in which component
if i try to connect with the full-qualified hostname it says
name or service not known, without the domain it works because
it is in "resolv.conf"
this does not affect ssh, seems to be global
the following apache-reverse-proxy to
Greetings and salutations,
It is time for yet another edition of "Robyn's Fedora Public Service
Announcements" :)
I'd like to give you a friendly reminder that the nomination period for
the upcoming Fedora elections will be closing promptly TOMORROW,
Saturday, November 5, 2011, at 23:59:59
Reindl Harald writes:
> [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ ssh root@centos.vmware.local
> ssh: Could not resolve hostname centos.vmware.local: Name or service not known
.local is reserved for MDNS.
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On Fri, 04.11.11 15:28, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
> [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ ssh root@centos.vmware.local
> ssh: Could not resolve hostname centos.vmware.local: Name or service not known
>
> [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ nslookup centos.vmware.local
> Server: 127.0.0.1
> Address:
Am 04.11.2011 16:37, schrieb Lennart Poettering:
> On Fri, 04.11.11 15:28, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
>
>> [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ ssh root@centos.vmware.local
>> ssh: Could not resolve hostname centos.vmware.local: Name or service not
>> known
>>
>> [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ nsloo
Hi,
I just installed F16 RC5 in a VM and I see the GNOME (foot) logo
in the gdm login window, i.s.o. the Fedora logo. Is this correct?
IIRC the Fedora logo was still there in an earlier beta...
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On 4 November 2011 14:36, drago01 wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
>>
>> This is essentially giving up. It's frustrating to be stuck on
>> overview mode on a four core machine while gnome-shell is doing
>> /something/ but you don't know what. If it worked fluidly it wo
On Fri, 04.11.11 17:06, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
> > Note that ".local" is the mDNS ad-hoc domain as implemented by Avahi,
> > Bonjour/MacOS, and a lot of hardware
>
> this domain name was used / selected LONG before avahi was a topic
Well, believe me, there's no point in bi
On 11/04/2011 05:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 04.11.2011 16:37, schrieb Lennart Poettering:
>> nslookup will only work for unicast DNS names, and hence will bypass any
>> mDNS lookups.
>
> as you see "nslookup" does not bypass, it resolves
> so what component and how to tell leave my configura
Just a thank you for allowing me to uncheck 'Use LVM'. Much simpler than
custom partitioning but still gets me what I need/wanted to use.
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On 11/04/2011 02:34 AM, JB wrote:
> JB gmail.com> writes:
>
>>
>> Michal Schmidt redhat.com> writes:
>>
>>> ... Show us the shutdown-log.txt.
>> ...
>>
>> Here you go:
>>
>> http://pastebin.com/EHTiuiR8
>>
>> JB
>>
>
> This is related to seli
Hi all,
I have a question to package maintainers.
I'm the upstream developer of PicoLisp, and would like to see it
included in the Fedora wishlist. Currently, PicoLisp is available in
OpenWRT and the Debian family of distributions.
Is anybody interested to maintain it as a package in Fedora? If
Am 04.11.2011 17:29, schrieb Lennart Poettering:
> Well, believe me, there's no point in bitching here about Avahi. I
> didn't make the choice that .local was the mDNS domain. Apple did.
well, everytime i come in contact with anything from apple i could throw
something out of the window beginning
I have been looking into replacing Fedora's obsolete version of libpng
(1.2.x release series) with something more modern. The possible choices
are the 1.4.x and 1.5.x release series. The 1.5.x series adds some more
features that 1.4.x did not have, but it also poses significantly more
migration p
On 11/04/2011 06:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> well, everytime i come in contact with anything from apple i could throw
> something out of the window beginning with the "systemctl ACTION service"
> instead "systemctl SERVICE action" while i laughed over years about apples
> order of this in their
Ian Malone wrote:
> If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen
> different bugzilla accounts by now.
So what? Maintainers are not messengers, they have other work to do than
forwarding the bugs you're too lazy to file directly at the right place.
Kevin Kofler
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seth vidal wrote:
> Bojan,
> Install xfce. You'll be happy w/that.
You should also give KDE Plasma Desktop a try.
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On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 06:23:02PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Ian Malone wrote:
> > If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen
> > different bugzilla accounts by now.
>
> So what? Maintainers are not messengers, they have other work to do than
> forwarding the bugs you're t
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Ian Malone wrote:
>> If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen
>> different bugzilla accounts by now.
>
> So what? Maintainers are not messengers, they have other work to do than
> forwarding the bugs you're too lazy to f
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 06:23:02PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Ian Malone wrote:
>> > If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen
>> > different bugzilla accounts by now.
>>
>> So what? Maintainers are not messengers, t
--- Original message ---
> From: seth vidal
>Install xfce. You'll be happy w/that.
Thanks for the tip.
Or maybe I'll just have to find time to (learn how to) hack the shell,
remove overview from it, bring back the taskbar and workspaces to normal
view and call it gnome-non-shell-sh
On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:37:33 -0500
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 23:17:21 -0700,
> Adam Williamson wrote:
...snip...
>
> > Yeah, agreed. I don't think there's any especial need for the
> > go/no-go to be an entire day ahead of the release readiness
> > meeting, in all hone
...snip...
Excellent background and detective work! Kudos!
Some quick questions:
Whats upstreams schedule like? How long will 1.4 and 1.5 continue to be
supported, and when do they plan on a 1.6?
Is there possibly a way to switch to 1.4, but warn (buildtime) about
this going away soon, etc?
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Shipping bug-free software is the job of maintainers. It's reasonable to
> ask a reporter to take an issue upstream if you feel that that'll result
> in the bug being fixed faster, but there's no reason to mandate that and
> it certainly doe
Once upon a time, Tom Lane said:
> Any opinions on which way to jump?
How hard is it to fix source that accesses the fields directly? Do all
the fields that were previously exposed have direct accessor functions?
If that's the case, it should be straight-forward (although time
consuming) grunt w
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 10:17 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > Shipping bug-free software is the job of maintainers. It's reasonable to
> > ask a reporter to take an issue upstream if you feel that that'll result
> > in the bug being fixed faste
...snip...
Just another datapoint, my personal policy here is:
a) ask the reporter if they could report it upstream, as they will be
able to answer questions and advocate for their bug much better that I
can in some cases.
b) If they say no, and I agree it's a bug/issue that should be
addressed
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 09:37 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 23:17:21 -0700,
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> >
> > It'd be great if we can work with the anaconda team closely to try and
> > get involved all along the line in the UI rewrite stuff, and see if that
> > can reduce
Kevin Fenzi writes:
> Some quick questions:
> Whats upstreams schedule like? How long will 1.4 and 1.5 continue to be
> supported, and when do they plan on a 1.6?
1.4 will be supported for a long time, though presumably not as long as
1.5. I don't think there are any active plans for an incomp
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 11:53 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > I am concerned with the process as executed not matching the
> > documentation. I'd just like to see a change codified that either
> > allows moving the Go / No-Go meeting when appropriate or just
> > schedule it closer to the readiness mee
On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 14:54:28 -0400
Tom Lane wrote:
> Kevin Fenzi writes:
> > Some quick questions:
>
> > Whats upstreams schedule like? How long will 1.4 and 1.5 continue
> > to be supported, and when do they plan on a 1.6?
>
> 1.4 will be supported for a long time, though presumably not as l
On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:55:00 -0700
Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 11:53 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> > > I am concerned with the process as executed not matching the
> > > documentation. I'd just like to see a change codified that either
> > > allows moving the Go / No-Go meetin
Chris Adams writes:
> Once upon a time, Tom Lane said:
>> Any opinions on which way to jump?
> How hard is it to fix source that accesses the fields directly? Do all
> the fields that were previously exposed have direct accessor functions?
AFAIK, they all do, and it should be a pretty straight
fre 2011-11-04 klockan 13:12 -0400 skrev Tom Lane:
> Packages that rebuilt successfully with 1.5 658
> Packages that FTBFS for non-libpng reasons186
> Packages that rebuilt with 1.4, but not 1.5 74
> Packages that need help even with 1.4 46
With this data my gut feeling is to go f
Jos Vos (j...@xos.nl) said:
> I just installed F16 RC5 in a VM and I see the GNOME (foot) logo
> in the gdm login window, i.s.o. the Fedora logo. Is this correct?
> IIRC the Fedora logo was still there in an earlier beta...
This is the fallback GDM, correct?
Bill
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On 4 November 2011 13:06, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:55:00 -0700
> Adam Williamson wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 11:53 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>>
>> > > I am concerned with the process as executed not matching the
>> > > documentation. I'd just like to see a change codified
On 13:12 Fri 04 Nov , Tom Lane wrote:
> I have been looking into replacing Fedora's obsolete version of libpng
> (1.2.x release series) with something more modern. The possible choices
> are the 1.4.x and 1.5.x release series. The 1.5.x series adds some more
> features that 1.4.x did not have
On 10/26/11 12:32 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Richard W.M. Jones
> wrote:
>> https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/682
>
> I've made another attempt to reach out the the glibc maintainer
> directly again this morning to hopefully answer the questions in that
> ti
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 03:10:10PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> This is the fallback GDM, correct?
Yes it is (in a KVM console). I now realize that it looks different
from the GDM I saw when I tested an earlier beta on a "real PC".
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Dr Andrew John Hughes writes:
> FYI, Gentoo already went to libpng 1.5 and so have patches floating around
> for a lot of stuff that breaks.
Oh, thanks, that's very useful to know! I think the availability of
such patches should substantially reduce the pain involved.
Given that, I will proceed
fre 2011-11-04 klockan 11:53 -0600 skrev Kevin Fenzi:
> If we do this, next cycle we should NOT do any 'two part' go/no-go
> meetings.
The "two part" meetings were both about critical blockers that were
known and actively being worked on at the time of the meeting. This
situation will happen no
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Jos Vos (j...@xos.nl) said:
> On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 03:10:10PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>
> > This is the fallback GDM, correct?
>
> Yes it is (in a KVM console). I now realize that it looks different
> from the GDM I saw when I tested an earlier beta on a "real PC".
This is a result of
Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote:
> FYI, Gentoo already went to libpng 1.5 and so have patches floating around
> for a lot of stuff that breaks.
from a _quick_ search:
http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=libpng&baseproject=openSUSE%3AFactory&lang=en&exclude_debug=true
suse1.4.x/1.2.x st
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Whats upstreams schedule like? How long will 1.4 and 1.5 continue to be
> supported, and when do they plan on a 1.6?
forever :-?
See http://libpng.sf.net/
UPDATE 2 November 2011: The latest released version is libpng-1.5.6 [DOWNLOAD].
* For legacy applications, libpng-1.4.
Henrik Nordström wrote:
> Documentaiton on how to adopt application code to work properly with
> libpng 1.4+ is readily available.
Some notes from upstream: http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/libpng.html
==cut==
Portability Note
The libpng 1.5.x series continues the evolution of the libpng API,
fina
On 4 November 2011 17:23, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Ian Malone wrote:
>> If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen
>> different bugzilla accounts by now.
>
> So what? Maintainers are not messengers, they have other work to do than
> forwarding the bugs you're too lazy to file dir
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Hi,
yesterday in the afternoon the xfce-weather-plugin suddenly stopped
working and allways displays "No Data". Trying to switch my location
or update my fedora 16 against updates-testing also didn't solve that
problem.
Is it just me or a general pr
Ian Malone gmail.com> writes:
> This is essentially giving up. It's frustrating to be stuck on
> overview mode on a four core machine while gnome-shell is doing
> /something/ but you don't know what. If it worked fluidly it would be
> okay.
For me, it goes further than that. I do not want overvi
On 11/04/2011 05:39 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> On 4 November 2011 17:23, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Ian Malone wrote:
>>> If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen
>>> different bugzilla accounts by now.
>>
>> So what? Maintainers are not messengers, they have other work to do than
Once upon a time, Heiko Adams said:
> yesterday in the afternoon the xfce-weather-plugin suddenly stopped
> working and allways displays "No Data". Trying to switch my location
> or update my fedora 16 against updates-testing also didn't solve that
> problem.
Does it use The Weather Channel (weat
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 21:06 +0100, Henrik Nordström wrote:
> fre 2011-11-04 klockan 11:53 -0600 skrev Kevin Fenzi:
>
> > If we do this, next cycle we should NOT do any 'two part' go/no-go
> > meetings.
>
> The "two part" meetings were both about critical blockers that were
> known and actively b
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