Re: F-16 suspends my *desktop* after 30 minutes at the gdm , making it impossible to ssh in

2011-10-03 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 10/02/2011 10:13 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 02:02, Hans de Goede wrote: >> Imagine I'm running a screen session with my irc client in there on my >> Fedora box, > > There has perhaps never been a better sentence written demonstrating > why software engineers are

Re: F-16 suspends my *desktop* after 30 minutes at the gdm , making it impossible to ssh in

2011-10-03 Thread Richard Hughes
On 1 October 2011 12:02, Hans de Goede wrote: > I would like to suggest to change the default power policy to never suspend > while on AC power. That's what it was supposed to be, but due to an oversight on my part the wrong keys were being set. I've fixed this upstream in https://bugzilla.gnome.

Re: F-16 suspends my *desktop* after 30 minutes at the gdm , making it impossible to ssh in

2011-10-03 Thread Frederic Muller
On 10/03/2011 03:48 PM, Hans de Goede wrote: > This is todays hardware and with every generation the gap is getting smaller > between dyn pm savings and suspend savings. "The annual life cycle energy use for a computer (3-year lifespan) is 2600 MJ [...]. The energy footprint of a computer is thus

Re: F-16 suspends my *desktop* after 30 minutes at the gdm , making it impossible to ssh in

2011-10-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Hi, To provide another data point, here my desktop : 1. runs network services (because webmail just works locally and remotely, unlike evo which has been a crasher for as long as I can remember) 2. uses dyndns (evil I know) and with the systemd/networkmanager changes ddclient does not seem to

Re: GDBM upgrade in F17

2011-10-03 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2011-09-30, Honza Horak wrote: > On 09/30/2011 11:07 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: >> Perl has been rebuilt _without_ GDBM in F17 as perl-5.14.1-191.fc17 and >> it's available in build root now. >> >> -- Petr >> > > The new gdbm-1.9.1-1 has just landed in Fedora Rawhide. Please, re-build > your packag

Re: F-16 suspends my *desktop* after 30 minutes at the gdm , making it impossible to ssh in

2011-10-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
> > As you can see, suspending is the right thing to do. > > 1) Not for servers > 2) This is todays hardware and with every generation the gap is getting > smaller > between dyn pm savings and suspend savings. It looks like it also might not be for systems that have encrypted swap. I think I sta

Broken dependencies: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule

2011-10-03 Thread buildsys
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-9.fc16.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3) On i386: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-9.fc16.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3) Please resolve this as soon as

Broken dependencies: perl-NOCpulse-Gritch

2011-10-03 Thread buildsys
perl-NOCpulse-Gritch has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-NOCpulse-Gritch-1.27.9-4.fc17.noarch requires perl(GDBM_File) On i386: perl-NOCpulse-Gritch-1.27.9-4.fc17.noarch requires perl(GDBM_File) Please resolve this as soon as possible. -- Fedora Extras P

Broken dependencies: perl-Bio-Graphics

2011-10-03 Thread buildsys
perl-Bio-Graphics has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Bio-Graphics-2.25-1.fc17.noarch requires perl(Bio::DB::BigWig) On i386: perl-Bio-Graphics-2.25-1.fc17.noarch requires perl(Bio::DB::BigWig) Please resolve this as soon as possible. -- Fedora Extras Pe

rawhide report: 20111003 changes

2011-10-03 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Oct 3 08:16:11 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 389-admin-1.1.23-1.fc17.i686 requires libicuuc.so.46 389-admin-1.1.23-1.fc17.i686 requires libicui18n.so.46 389-admin-1.1.23-1.fc17.i686 require

Re: F-16 suspends my *desktop* after 30 minutes at the gdm , making it impossible to ssh in

2011-10-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: >> 2) The machine has a server function. In this case working wake on lan and >>    stay active on lan are a must have and until we have those it should not >>    auto suspend. > > WOL for a network server is madness. It shouldn't have been s

Re: F-16 suspends my *desktop* after 30 minutes at the gdm , making it impossible to ssh in

2011-10-03 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 10/03/2011 05:37 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > 3. uses a high efficiency low-noise PSU, which does not like power ups > at all (in fact restarting the computer now takes a dozen tries, with > minutes waiting for caps to drain ; yes I could change the hardware but > it works fine under load and a

[Bug 730658] Unbundle DateTime::Locale and DateTime::TimeZone

2011-10-03 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=730658 Iain Arnell changed: What|Removed |Added ---

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-10-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 11:00 +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: > Hi, > > I'm working on bringing OLPC up-to-date with all the great efforts > with GNOME 3, systemd, etc. > > On the OLPC XO laptops we have quite a strange screen - it is small > (152mm x 114mm) but very high resolution (1200x900 i.e. 201 d

File Catalyst-Authentication-Credential-HTTP-1.013.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2011-10-03 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Catalyst-Authentication-Credential-HTTP: 3e541b17e70cc175a883e260c053f638 Catalyst-Authentication-Credential-HTTP-1.013.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@li

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-10-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 16:09 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 15:47 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > >> > >> There's nothing to do apart from waiting for enough complains to pile up > >> the > >> people in charge ge

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-10-03 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:34:45 +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote: > I'm not sure how we can make DPI magically be correct in gazillions of > broken displays' EDID. If not blacklisting then whitelisting them, you have the community. This is X.org's task, though. Regards, Jan -- devel mailing list devel

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-10-03 Thread Camilo Mesias
Hi, A daft question perhaps, but I thought... > I'm not sure how we can make DPI magically be correct in gazillions of > broken displays' EDID. How do other OS' do it? -Cam -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-10-03 Thread Michael Ekstrand
On 10/03/2011 10:48 AM, Camilo Mesias wrote: > Hi, > > A daft question perhaps, but I thought... > >> I'm not sure how we can make DPI magically be correct in gazillions of >> broken displays' EDID. > > How do other OS' do it? I don't know that they do. In my use of Windows up through XP, I nev

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-10-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/03/2011 06:01 PM, Michael Ekstrand wrote: > On 10/03/2011 10:48 AM, Camilo Mesias wrote: >> Hi, >> >> A daft question perhaps, but I thought... >> >>> I'm not sure how we can make DPI magically be correct in gazillions of >>> broken displays' EDID. >> >> How do other OS' do it? > > I don't kn

[Bug 732587] Subroutine SNMP_Session::pack_sockaddr_in6 redefined

2011-10-03 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=732587 --- Comment #6 from Dave Jones 2011-10-03 12:19:31 EDT --- This seems to solve this problem, though something else seems to be b

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-10-03 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 04:48:11PM +0100, Camilo Mesias wrote: > Hi, > > A daft question perhaps, but I thought... > > > I'm not sure how we can make DPI magically be correct in gazillions of > > broken displays' EDID. > > How do other OS' do it? Apple manage by virtue of most of their customer

[Bug 732587] Subroutine SNMP_Session::pack_sockaddr_in6 redefined

2011-10-03 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=732587 --- Comment #7 from Dave Jones 2011-10-03 12:38:46 EDT --- oh, derp. I was missing the net-snmp-sysvinit package. seems to be wo

FESCO meeting agenda for 2011 Oct 3

2011-10-03 Thread Adam Jackson
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 17:00UTC (1:00pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 = Followups = #topic #663 Late F16 Feature Java7 .fesco 663 #

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-10-03 Thread Adam Jackson
On 10/3/11 11:43 AM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:34:45 +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote: >> I'm not sure how we can make DPI magically be correct in gazillions of >> broken displays' EDID. > > If not blacklisting then whitelisting them, you have the community. This is > X.org's task,

Unable to reach a package maintainer for deprecation request

2011-10-03 Thread Steve Jenkins
I'm not sure of the correct protocol in cases like this, so any guidance is appreciated. Early last month, I sent a message to all the addresses I could find for Jim Radford (jradford), the maintainer of the dkim-milter package: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/dkim-milter My mess

Re: unison formal review

2011-10-03 Thread Gregor Tätzner
Am Mittwoch, 28. September 2011, 11:15:54 schrieb Richard W.M. Jones: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 08:55:43AM +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > > On 09/27/2011 07:46 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/unison213 > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/a

Re: unison formal review

2011-10-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 19:22:28 +0200 Gregor Tätzner wrote: > Any news from the FESCO team? What's the conclusion of this > discussion? No one has officially asked fesco... Please file a ticket what you actually want to ask fesco here? https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/newtplticket Personally, I th

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCO meeting (2011-10-03)

2011-10-03 Thread Adam Jackson
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2011-10-03) === Meeting started by ajax at 17:00:30 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-10-03/fesco.2011-10-03-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary

Re: Heads up: e2fsprogs-1.42-WIP-0702 pushed to rawhide

2011-10-03 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 02:51:33PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: > Another little heads up - a newer snapshot is built in rawhide now. > > Anyone who wants to fiddle with large ext4 filesystems, have at > it please! Is there any background information to this change that I can read? I created a 2**

Re: unison formal review

2011-10-03 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 11:32:18AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 19:22:28 +0200 > Gregor Tätzner wrote: > > > Any news from the FESCO team? What's the conclusion of this > > discussion? > > No one has officially asked fesco... > > Please file a ticket what you actually want to

Re: Fedora kernel bug day.

2011-10-03 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:24:45PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 03:33:24PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > We'll be doing this in #fedora-kernel next Monday (22nd) > > > I expect that the wiki page will continue to evolve as we start working > > > on this, and

Re: unison formal review

2011-10-03 Thread Gregor Tätzner
Am Montag, 3. Oktober 2011, 20:26:11 schrieb Richard W.M. Jones: > On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 11:32:18AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 19:22:28 +0200 > > > > Gregor Tätzner wrote: > > > Any news from the FESCO team? What's the conclusion of this > > > discussion? > > > > No one h

Re: Heads up: e2fsprogs-1.42-WIP-0702 pushed to rawhide

2011-10-03 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 10/3/11 1:13 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 02:51:33PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: >> Another little heads up - a newer snapshot is built in rawhide now. >> >> Anyone who wants to fiddle with large ext4 filesystems, have at >> it please! > > Is there any background infor

Re: non-responsive icon theme maintainer

2011-10-03 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 13:24 +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > I just sent an email directly to his archlinux.us email address asking > if he wishes to resign from his maintainer duties or if he is just > busy. > Let's see if he replies. tajidinabd still hasn't replied and I did not receive an

Re: KDE devels - why is kdeedu missing from websvn?

2011-10-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
John5342 wrote: > For starters kde have moved everything to git now No, not everything. The move is being done progressively, module by module, and is still ongoing. (But the plan is that eventually all the code modules will migrate to git. Translations and web sites are staying on SVN though.

Re: Heads up: e2fsprogs-1.42-WIP-0702 pushed to rawhide

2011-10-03 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 03:10:43PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: > On 10/3/11 1:13 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 02:51:33PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: > >> Another little heads up - a newer snapshot is built in rawhide now. > >> > >> Anyone who wants to fiddle with large ex

Re: Heads up: e2fsprogs-1.42-WIP-0702 pushed to rawhide

2011-10-03 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 10/3/11 4:05 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 03:10:43PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: >> On 10/3/11 1:13 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 02:51:33PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: Another little heads up - a newer snapshot is built in rawhide now. >

Re: unison formal review

2011-10-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 10:05:09PM +0200, Gregor Tätzner wrote: > > Another idea: Just put in the package *unison* the latest release and when a > new shiny version has been released we provide a compat version, so move > unison to *unisonXYZ* and update the *unison* package regularly. > > I su

Re: Heads up: e2fsprogs-1.42-WIP-0702 pushed to rawhide

2011-10-03 Thread Farkas Levente
On 10/04/2011 12:33 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote: > On 10/3/11 5:13 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 04:11:28PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: >> I wasn't able to give the VM enough memory to make this succeed. I've >> only got 8G on this laptop. Should I need large amounts of memor

Re: Heads up: e2fsprogs-1.42-WIP-0702 pushed to rawhide

2011-10-03 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 10/3/11 5:13 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 04:11:28PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: >> testing something more real-world (20T ... 500T?) might still be interesting. > > Here's my test script: > > qemu-img create -f qcow2 test1.img 500T && \ > guestfish -a test1.img

Re: Heads up: e2fsprogs-1.42-WIP-0702 pushed to rawhide

2011-10-03 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 04:11:28PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: > testing something more real-world (20T ... 500T?) might still be interesting. Here's my test script: qemu-img create -f qcow2 test1.img 500T && \ guestfish -a test1.img \ memsize 4096 : run : \ part-disk /dev/vda gp

Re: Heads up: e2fsprogs-1.42-WIP-0702 pushed to rawhide

2011-10-03 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 10/3/11 5:53 PM, Farkas Levente wrote: > On 10/04/2011 12:33 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote: >> On 10/3/11 5:13 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >>> On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 04:11:28PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: >>> I wasn't able to give the VM enough memory to make this succeed. I've >>> only got 8G on th

release number when upstream *only* has git hashes?

2011-10-03 Thread Eric Smith
What should I use for the release number in a spec when upstream does not have releases, and *only* has git hashes? It's not a prerelease since it is not clear that there will ever be any official release. Thanks, Eric -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedorapr

Re: release number when upstream *only* has git hashes?

2011-10-03 Thread Eric Smith
I wrote: > What should I use for the release number in a spec when upstream does > not have releases, and *only* has git hashes? It's not a prerelease > since it is not clear that there will ever be any official release. I meant "version number", not "release number". I imagine that the relea

Re: Heads up: e2fsprogs-1.42-WIP-0702 pushed to rawhide

2011-10-03 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 05:33:47PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: > On 10/3/11 5:13 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > At 100T it doesn't run out of memory, but the man behind the curtain > > starts to show. The underlying qcow2 file grows to several gigs and I > > had to kill it. I need to play with

Re: Heads up: e2fsprogs-1.42-WIP-0702 pushed to rawhide

2011-10-03 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
100T seems to work for light use. I can create the filesystem, mount it, write files and directories and read them back, and fsck doesn't report any problems. Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/vda199T 129M 94T 1% /sysroot Linux (none) 3.1.0-0.rc6.git0.3.fc16.x86_