RFC: Fedora 16 Alpha release announcement and notes

2011-08-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi Feel free to edit the wiki directly or reply here for any additions or corrections https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_Alpha_release_announcement Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-11 Thread Milan Crha
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 11:11 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > > Looks fine to me. The only reason I have to dislike it is the > > temptation for people to inspect build logs as a proof of what flags a > > package was built with (since the only sane thing is to store that in > > the binary itself, which the

Ophaning packages

2011-08-11 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, I'm going to orphan and block from F-16/rawhide google-gadgets and ethos unless anyone is interested in picking them up. They're both pretty dead upstream. google-gadgets needs to be ported to the latest xulrunner and while meego has a fork that fixes and improves it quite a bit I don't b

To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-11 Thread David Howells
Hi, I have a package (keyutils) that produces three RPMs: keyutils (programs), keyutils-libs and keyutils-devel. The programs in the keyutils RPM depend on the libraries in the keyutils-libs RPM and pick up implicit dependencies thus: warthog>rpm -qRp keyutils-1.5.1-1.fc14.x86_64.rpm

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (bfo)

2011-08-11 Thread Vratislav Podzimek
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 18:26 +0200, Rudolf Kastl wrote: > Hello, > > A bit of (hopefully) constructive feedback. It might help with testing > and adoption of fedora if the rcs and alpha releases are made > available in the bfo setup. Actually within the "experimental" folder > there is only a tc1 o

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-11 Thread Paul Howarth
On 08/11/2011 01:19 PM, David Howells wrote: > I have a package (keyutils) that produces three RPMs: keyutils (programs), > keyutils-libs and keyutils-devel. The programs in the keyutils RPM depend on > the libraries in the keyutils-libs RPM and pick up implicit dependencies thus: > > wartho

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-11 Thread David Howells
Paul Howarth wrote: > > rpmlint does not complain, but, for RHEL, rpmdiff does. > > What is the rpmdiff "complaint"? Report from TEST_REQUIRES: [VERIFY] [keyutils] Subpackage keyutils on i686 ppc s390 consumes libraries libkeyutils.so.1 libkeyutils.so.1(KEYUTILS_0.3) libkeyutils.so.1(KEYUTILS_

rawhide report: 20110811 changes

2011-08-11 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu Aug 11 08:15:27 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- acheck-0.5.1-4.fc15.noarch requires perl(Text::Aspell) almanah-0.7.3-12.fc16.x86_64 requires libedataserverui-3.0.so.0()(64bit) almanah-0.7.3-12

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:19:49 +0100, DH (David) wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a package (keyutils) that produces three RPMs: keyutils (programs), > keyutils-libs and keyutils-devel. The programs in the keyutils RPM depend on > the libraries in the keyutils-libs RPM and pick up implicit dependencies

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:29:52 +0100, PH (Paul) wrote: > Library requirements should be implicit unless there's a good reason > otherwise; see: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Explicit_Requires Not true, or "not the full story". Library SONAME requirement for _external_ build

[Bug 729977] [abrt] mldonkey-3.0.3-1.fc14: mark_slice: Process /usr/bin/mlnet was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV)

2011-08-11 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=729977 --- Comment #1 from Flos Lonicerae 2011-08-11 08:55:36 EDT --- Created attachment 517801 --> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/atta

[Bug 729977] New: [abrt] mldonkey-3.0.3-1.fc14: mark_slice: Process /usr/bin/mlnet was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV)

2011-08-11 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: [abrt] mldonkey-3.0.3-1.fc14: mark_slice: Process /usr/bin/mlnet was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=729977 Summary:

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-11 Thread Andreas Schwab
Michael Schwendt writes: > Library SONAME requirement for _external_ builds ought to stay > implicit/automatic, but _libraries and subpackages_ are a different > problem space. A library update may add stuff without changing its SONAME > and while staying compatible with existing executables in e

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-11 Thread Paul Howarth
On 08/11/2011 02:03 PM, Andreas Schwab wrote: > Michael Schwendt writes: > >> Library SONAME requirement for _external_ builds ought to stay >> implicit/automatic, but _libraries and subpackages_ are a different >> problem space. A library update may add stuff without changing its SONAME >> and wh

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:03:47 +0200, AS (Andreas) wrote: > > Library SONAME requirement for _external_ builds ought to stay > > implicit/automatic, but _libraries and subpackages_ are a different > > problem space. A library update may add stuff without changing its SONAME > > and while staying com

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-11 Thread Andreas Schwab
Michael Schwendt writes: > The difference is that the subpackages may need the new symbols immediately > when installing the packages, whereas future builds of external packages > would link with the latest library version that has been released before > and is the one available in the build syst

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-11 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Milan Crha wrote: > > I would like you to give me an option to not use --disable-silent-rules, > because it breaks waf build. Ugh; pretty lame that waf chose to replicate all of the standard autoconf flags as well as some automake ones (--disable-dependency-tracki

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (bfo)

2011-08-11 Thread John Reiser
On 08/11/2011 05:26 AM, Vratislav Podzimek wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 18:26 +0200, Rudolf Kastl wrote: >> Last time i tried an install via bfo it didnt really select mirrors >> close to me. (i think for the install it didnt use a mirrorlist but >> instead a hardcoded repo by default) Is this s

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:24:30 +0200, AS (Andreas) wrote: > > The difference is that the subpackages may need the new symbols immediately > > when installing the packages, whereas future builds of external packages > > would link with the latest library version that has been released before > > and

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:10:44 +0100, PH (Paul) wrote: > >> Library SONAME requirement for _external_ builds ought to stay > >> implicit/automatic, but _libraries and subpackages_ are a different > >> problem space. A library update may add stuff without changing its SONAME > >> and while staying co

evolution-data-server soname version bump for rawhide/Fedora 16 next week

2011-08-11 Thread Milan Crha
Hi, I just want to let you know that evolution-data-server 3.1.5 release, which is about to happen the next week, on August 15th, +/-, changes soname versions for almost everything it provides, namely libedataserver, libecal, libedatacal, libebook, libedatabook. Anything depending on it wo

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-11 Thread Andreas Schwab
Michael Schwendt writes: > No external package can build with new features of the new "foo-libs" package > prior to making that package available in the buildroot. How is the contents of the buildroot relevant to "yum install bar"? > If "foo" is the base package of "foo-libs", and this -libs pa

[Bug 729977] [abrt] mldonkey-3.0.3-1.fc14: mark_slice: Process /usr/bin/mlnet was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV)

2011-08-11 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=729977 --- Comment #2 from Richard W.M. Jones 2011-08-11 10:21:10 EDT --- Unfortunately crashes in the garbage collector are generally

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (bfo)

2011-08-11 Thread Vratislav Podzimek
On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 06:46 -0700, John Reiser wrote: > On 08/11/2011 05:26 AM, Vratislav Podzimek wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 18:26 +0200, Rudolf Kastl wrote: > > >> Last time i tried an install via bfo it didnt really select mirrors > >> close to me. (i think for the install it didnt use a

[perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-PSGI/el6] * First EPEL6 release (F14 SRPM)

2011-08-11 Thread Jose Pedro Oliveira
commit e0d154120784bcace9f216a6e300981963f59aea Author: Jose Pedro Oliveira Date: Thu Aug 11 15:36:00 2011 +0100 * First EPEL6 release (F14 SRPM) perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-PSGI.spec |7 --- 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-PS

[perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-PSGI] Created tag perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-PSGI-0.14-2.el6.1

2011-08-11 Thread Jose Pedro Oliveira
The lightweight tag 'perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-PSGI-0.14-2.el6.1' was created pointing to: e0d1541... * First EPEL6 release (F14 SRPM) -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraprojec

[perl-Test-Spelling/f14] (6 commits) ...Update to 0.14

2011-08-11 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: aba9a9f... - 661697 rebuild for fixing problems with vendorach/lib (*) 205643f... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Mass (*) 0cf0952... Update to 0.12 (*) 7f5db68... General clean-up (*) c8a2ad4... Update to 0.13 (*) 6558e02... Update to 0.14 (*

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:13:48 +0200, AS (Andreas) wrote: > > No external package can build with new features of the new "foo-libs" > > package > > prior to making that package available in the buildroot. > > How is the contents of the buildroot relevant to "yum install bar"? "bar" has been built

[perl-Test-Spelling] Created tag perl-Test-Spelling-0.14-1.fc14

2011-08-11 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Test-Spelling-0.14-1.fc14' was created pointing to: 6558e02... Update to 0.14 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-dev

[perl-Test-Spelling] Created tag perl-Test-Spelling-0.14-1.fc15

2011-08-11 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Test-Spelling-0.14-1.fc15' was created pointing to: 6558e02... Update to 0.14 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-dev

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (bfo)

2011-08-11 Thread Rudolf Kastl
2011/8/11 Vratislav Podzimek : > On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 06:46 -0700, John Reiser wrote: >> On 08/11/2011 05:26 AM, Vratislav Podzimek wrote: >> > On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 18:26 +0200, Rudolf Kastl wrote: >> >> >> Last time i tried an install via bfo it didnt really select mirrors >> >> close to me. (i

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-11 Thread Rex Dieter
> I have a package (keyutils) that produces three RPMs: keyutils (programs), > keyutils-libs and keyutils-devel. The programs in the keyutils RPM depend on > the libraries in the keyutils-libs RPM and pick up implicit dependencies thus: > > warthog>rpm -qRp keyutils-1.5.1-1.fc14.x86_64.rpm

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (bfo)

2011-08-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:26:43 +0200 Rudolf Kastl wrote: > Hello, > > A bit of (hopefully) constructive feedback. It might help with testing > and adoption of fedora if the rcs and alpha releases are made > available in the bfo setup. Actually within the "experimental" folder > there is only a tc1

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-11 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Colin Walters wrote: > > I'll work on a patch - I guess the RPM approach is more overrides > rather than detecting things, so I'll go with adding an option. Actually looking at this more, while waf does support the GNU autoconf options by loading gnu_dirs.py (and

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-11 Thread Andreas Schwab
Michael Schwendt writes: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:13:48 +0200, AS (Andreas) wrote: > >> > No external package can build with new features of the new "foo-libs" >> > package >> > prior to making that package available in the buildroot. >> >> How is the contents of the buildroot relevant to "yum

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:23:06 +0200, AS (Andreas) wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:13:48 +0200, AS (Andreas) wrote: > > > >> > No external package can build with new features of the new "foo-libs" > >> > package > >> > prior to making that package available in the buildroot. > >> > >> How is the

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-11 Thread Milan Crha
On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 11:16 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > So I think it makes sense to patch samba's wscript to also support > --disable-silent-rules for now. Hi, yup, I made it that way, for now. > It may make sense to also have an automake_compat.py in upstream waf > which does somethin

Re: Fwd: [Fedora Update] [CRITPATH] [old_testing_critpath] mdadm-3.1.3-0.git20100804.3.fc14

2011-08-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 09:02 -0400, Doug Ledford wrote: > Can we please either disable these nag messages or give developers the > ability to push a package regardless of testing when it reaches nag age? You have that ability for non-critpath updates, but for critpath the thought is that updates r

Re: Fwd: [Fedora Update] [CRITPATH] [old_testing_critpath] mdadm-3.1.3-0.git20100804.3.fc14

2011-08-11 Thread Tom Lane
> On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 09:02 -0400, Doug Ledford wrote: >> Can we please either disable these nag messages or give developers the >> ability to push a package regardless of testing when it reaches nag age? > You have that ability for non-critpath updates, but for critpath the > thought is that u

conflict in packages in fedora 15

2011-08-11 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
hello, what is the reason for this Transaction Check Error: file /lib/firmware/phanfw.bin from install of netxen-firmware-4.0.534-4.fc15.noarch conflicts with file from package linux-firmware-20110601-1.fc15.noarch and what requires netxen-firmware -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedorapro

Re: Fwd: [Fedora Update] [CRITPATH] [old_testing_critpath] mdadm-3.1.3-0.git20100804.3.fc14

2011-08-11 Thread Doug Ledford
On 08/11/2011 12:32 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 09:02 -0400, Doug Ledford wrote: >> Can we please either disable these nag messages or give developers the >> ability to push a package regardless of testing when it reaches nag age? > > You have that ability for non-critpath

Re: Fwd: [Fedora Update] [CRITPATH] [old_testing_critpath] mdadm-3.1.3-0.git20100804.3.fc14

2011-08-11 Thread Doug Ledford
On 08/11/2011 05:42 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >> On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 09:02 -0400, Doug Ledford wrote: >>> Can we please either disable these nag messages or give developers the >>> ability to push a package regardless of testing when it reaches nag age? > >> You have that ability for non-critpath upd

Need Little IT advice Here...

2011-08-11 Thread Manuel Escudero
Hi, I was Wondering if there was a tool for Linux in general that let me undo the system changes at reboot or something like that, For example: I want to set a standard configuration in a machine and then let that machine to be used by many users, but as soon as the user Log Out (preferably in tha

Re: Need Little IT advice Here...

2011-08-11 Thread Genes MailLists
On 08/11/2011 11:58 PM, Manuel Escudero wrote: > Hi, I was Wondering if there was a tool for Linux in general > that let me undo the system changes at reboot or something > like that, For example: > > I want to set a standard configuration in a machine and then > let that machine to be used by ma