Re: New hardened build support (coming) in F16

2011-08-09 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 23:16 -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > I think there should have been some discussion about this on the FESCO > request > I submitted. I have some concerns about what was implemented. Are there bz > filed for this or more discussion about it somewhere? most of the discussion h

Re: some locales crashes gnome-shell

2011-08-09 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: > %A %Ol:%OM %p %OIis replaced by the hour (12-hour clock) using the locale's alternative numeric symbols. %OMis replaced by the minutes using the locale's alternative numeric symbols. it seems that Shell.util_format_date which relies on g_

Re: some locales crashes gnome-shell

2011-08-09 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
please use the attached patch till we fix glib or fix mozilla https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728889 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: abiword

2011-08-09 Thread Peter Robinson
I've done rawhide. It seems I don't have the permissions to do a builld override even though I'm a proven packager and secondary arch maintainer. If you could submit the build-override for the package I'll rebuild abiword for f-16. Peter On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:30 AM, Johannes Lips wrote: > Ju

Re: New hardened build support (coming) in F16

2011-08-09 Thread Jan Safranek
On 08/08/2011 06:23 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > Once that's done (and redhat-rpm-config-9.1.0-15.fc16 has been gone > through updates), if you're using a %configure-style spec file, defining > the magic macro is all you have to do. The rpm macros will notice the > macro, and put the right magic i

Trouble with gnome-sound-applet

2011-08-09 Thread Heiko Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, I've filed a bug for the control-center package (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=729271) because I ran into a boring problem with gnome-sound-applet, which is part of that package, on my Xfce desktop. The gnome-sound-applet is autosta

Re: New hardened build support (coming) in F16

2011-08-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 11:16:12PM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > This list is woefully incomplete. I would advocate a much larger list. For > example, sudo is a very important program that we make security claims about. > It is not on that list. Because it's SUID. > I think there should have bee

Re: Handle sonames

2011-08-09 Thread Praveen Kumar
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Jussi Lehtola < jussileht...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:AutoProvidesAndRequiresFiltering#Arch-specific_extensions_to_scripting_languages > > -- > Jussi Lehtola > Fedora Project Contributor > jussileht...@fedoraproject.o

Re: New hardened build support (coming) in F16

2011-08-09 Thread Steve Grubb
On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 07:51:07 AM Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 11:16:12PM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > > This list is woefully incomplete. I would advocate a much larger list. > > For example, sudo is a very important program that we make security > > claims about. It is no

Fedora 15 kernel 2.6.40-4 issues on EC2

2011-08-09 Thread Marek Goldmann
Hi, In BoxGrinder we're seeing some issues when upgrading to latest kernel on AMI's, which was reported here: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/BGBUILD-289 You can see in that ticket full boot log (console log in AWS terms) from a started instance with newest kernel. Jeremy pointed out t

Heads up: e2fsprogs-1.42-WIP-0702 pushed to rawhide

2011-08-09 Thread Eric Sandeen
... now, finally, with more 64-bit-ness! >From Ted: > I've made the first WIP release of e2fsprogs 1.42. The primary purpose > is for people to test the 64-bit functionality and be confident that we > didn't introduce any 32-bit regressions. So in theory you can at least mfks & mount a 16T fs a

Re: abiword

2011-08-09 Thread Johannes Lips
I've filed the following ticket https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4873 and created an update for f16, forgot that this morning. I hope this was in line with the general guidelines of this process. Johannes On 08/09/2011 10:36 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > I've done rawhide. It seems I don't ha

Re: New hardened build support (coming) in F16

2011-08-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 08:47:16AM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 07:51:07 AM Matthew Garrett wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 11:16:12PM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > > > This list is woefully incomplete. I would advocate a much larger list. > > > For example, sudo is a ve

Re: abiword

2011-08-09 Thread Peter Robinson
You do build overrides in bodhi now. Its a menu option on the left panel. Peter On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Johannes Lips wrote: > I've filed the following ticket > https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4873 > and created an update for f16, forgot that this morning. > I hope this was in li

Re: New hardened build support (coming) in F16

2011-08-09 Thread Jon Ciesla
Steve Grubb wrote: > On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 07:51:07 AM Matthew Garrett wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 11:16:12PM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: >> >>> This list is woefully incomplete. I would advocate a much larger list. >>> For example, sudo is a very important program that we make

Re: New hardened build support (coming) in F16

2011-08-09 Thread Peter Jones
On 08/09/2011 08:47 AM, Steve Grubb wrote: > My main concern is that the macro will be misapplied and overall performance > will take a hit. I don't know how a macro can tell the intent of an > application as it links it. There has not been a chmod so that it knows this > is setuid and needs more p

Re: abiword

2011-08-09 Thread Johannes Lips
Ok, did that now. If you need any further action from my side, just let me know. Johannes On 08/09/2011 03:24 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > You do build overrides in bodhi now. Its a menu option on the left panel. > > Peter > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Johannes Lips > wrote: >> I've filed

File Config-Auto-0.38.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by eseyman

2011-08-09 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Config-Auto: cf6fbd37e27726dd8373faa13a85e31f Config-Auto-0.38.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailm

Re: New hardened build support (coming) in F16

2011-08-09 Thread Björn Persson
Steve Grubb wrote: > This is not the policy that I asked for. Well, what Ajax described isn't a policy at all. It's a set of RPM macros designed to make it easier to follow the (soon to be) policy. RPM macros can't enforce the policy. Enforcement must be done elsewhere. > When you make a PIE ex

Re: New hardened build support (coming) in F16

2011-08-09 Thread Steve Grubb
On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 09:20:53 AM Matthew Garrett wrote: > > Taking RHEL6 through common criteria and FIPS-140, filing dozens of > > security bugs after studying some problems and sending patches. I am > > monitoring the FESCO ticket, but I don't monitor fedora-devel all the > > time because

Re: New hardened build support (coming) in F16

2011-08-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 10:17:29AM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 09:20:53 AM Matthew Garrett wrote: > > You can't bring a policy to FESCO, fail to turn up to any of the > > meetings > > I didn't fail to turn up to any of the meetings. I watched the issue and > attended

advice on libjpeg

2011-08-09 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hello, One of the packages[2] I am trying to package requires libjpeg from the ijg[1]. Since fedora is using libjpeg-turbo, I wanted to know if libjpeg and libjpeg are installable in parallel? Should I package libjpeg as a build dep, or should I be trying to patch the source to use libjpeg-turbo?

Re: advice on libjpeg

2011-08-09 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2011/8/9 Ankur Sinha : > Hello, > > One of the packages[2] I am trying to package requires libjpeg from the > ijg[1]. Since fedora is using libjpeg-turbo, I wanted to know if libjpeg > and libjpeg are installable in parallel? Should I package libjpeg as a > build dep, or should I be trying to patch

Re: New hardened build support (coming) in F16

2011-08-09 Thread Peter Jones
On 08/09/2011 10:17 AM, Steve Grubb wrote: > I didn't fail to turn up to any of the meetings. ... > I would rather have seen a macro added to auto tools to detect gcc support > for this so that upstream developers can more easily add the support natively > for all distributions. So you just failed

Re: New hardened build support (coming) in F16

2011-08-09 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 08:47 -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > My main concern is that the macro will be misapplied and overall performance > will take a hit. That's a valid concern, but any hardened build would have this problem. I'm happy to talk about how the performance impact can be mitigated, but

[PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Colin Walters
See attached. From d24d382c325c8794c05bcb56b3820b15e4a67e55 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Colin Walters Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:42:06 -0400 Subject: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure Various projects have been adding AM_SILENT_RULES from Automake to their Makefile

Re: abiword

2011-08-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 15:40:58 +0200 Johannes Lips wrote: > Ok, did that now. If you need any further action from my side, just > let me know. Please note that I have a update with no link-grammar in as: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/abiword-2.8.6-12.fc16 Please test and add karma. A

Autodetecting insufficiently hardened builds (was: New hardened build support (coming) in F16)

2011-08-09 Thread Björn Persson
Matthew Garrett wrote: > Unless the checking is part of autoqa this simply isn't > sufficient. There's a huge benefit to implementing it in the way that's > easiest for maintainers. The earlier a problem is detected, the cheaper it is to fix. If I have understood AutoQA right, it gets involved

Re: Autodetecting insufficiently hardened builds (was: New hardened build support (coming) in F16)

2011-08-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 04:53:16PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > Matthew Garrett wrote: > > Unless the checking is part of autoqa this simply isn't > > sufficient. There's a huge benefit to implementing it in the way that's > > easiest for maintainers. > > The earlier a problem is detected, the

Beats are open

2011-08-09 Thread John J. McDonough
The release notes beats for Fedora 16 are now open. If you are working on some new feature for Fedora 16 that should be included in the release notes, please consider heading on over to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Beats select the appropriate beat for your feature, and write a lit

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 10:44 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > See attached. Looks fine to me. The only reason I have to dislike it is the temptation for people to inspect build logs as a proof of what flags a package was built with (since the only sane thing is to store that in the binary itself, whi

Re: Fedora 15 kernel 2.6.40-4 issues on EC2

2011-08-09 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 07:52:56 AM Marek Goldmann wrote: > Hi, > > In BoxGrinder we're seeing some issues when upgrading to latest kernel on > AMI's, which was reported here: > > https://issues.jboss.org/browse/BGBUILD-289 > > You can see in that ticket full boot log (console log in A

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Tom Lane
Adam Jackson writes: > On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 10:44 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: >> See attached. > Looks fine to me. The only reason I have to dislike it is the > temptation for people to inspect build logs as a proof of what flags a > package was built with (since the only sane thing is to store

review swap

2011-08-09 Thread Kaleb S. KEITHLEY
Already approved once. Just need a quick re-review of the rename and the added Obsoletes: Original Message Subject: package re-review needed — CloudFS name change to HekaFS Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 10:40:20 -0400 From: Kaleb S. KEITHLEY To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Re-revi

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > > What happens in packages using a (possibly old) autoconf script that > doesn't recognize --disable-silent-rules? Autoconf convention is to ignore unknown rules. And indeed, all that results is a warning: configure: WARNING: unrecognized option

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Andreas Schwab
Tom Lane writes: > What happens in packages using a (possibly old) autoconf script that > doesn't recognize --disable-silent-rules? Autoconf-generated configure scripts generally ignore unknown --enable and --with options (newer versions give a warning). Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, sch...@red

Re: abiword

2011-08-09 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 15:40:58 +0200 > Johannes Lips wrote: > >> Ok, did that now. If you need any further action from my side, just >> let me know. > > Please note that I have a update with no link-grammar in as: > https://admin.fedoraproject.or

Re: abiword

2011-08-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 16:23:51 +0100 Peter Robinson wrote: ...snip... > > Please note that I have a update with no link-grammar in as: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/abiword-2.8.6-12.fc16 > > > > Please test and add karma. > > Done Thanks! > > Also, please wait to rebuild with link

Re: Fedora 15 kernel 2.6.40-4 issues on EC2

2011-08-09 Thread Marek Goldmann
After looking into it I think the root issue is that the block devices are incorrectly named in new 2.6.40-4 kernel. I created an issue: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=729340 --Marek On 9 sie 2011, at 17:02, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 07:52:56 AM M

[Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2011-08-09 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 16 schedule [1], Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for download links and testing instructions. In general, official live images arrive a few hours after the install images: see the links below for updates. When

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:44:31 +0200, Colin Walters wrote: > Various projects have been adding AM_SILENT_RULES from Automake to > their Makefiles for "developer convenience"; the goal being that they > see warnings more easily. It is inconvenient as one can no longer easily reproduce the compilation

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:44:31 +0200, Colin Walters wrote: > the goal being that they see warnings more easily. You should make -Werror default instead, by compiling packages without -Werror various bugs creep in which would be much easier fixed before the compilation. Regards, Jan -- devel maili

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 18:56 +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:44:31 +0200, Colin Walters wrote: > > the goal being that they see warnings more easily. > > You should make -Werror default instead, by compiling packages without -Werror > various bugs creep in which would be much

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 06:56:21PM +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:44:31 +0200, Colin Walters wrote: > > the goal being that they see warnings more easily. > > You should make -Werror default instead, by compiling packages without -Werror > various bugs creep in which would b

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 19:14:27 +0200, Adam Jackson wrote: > If you're volunteering to fix and/or paper over all the spurious > warnings gcc and glibc introduce with every phase of the moon, then > sure. Yes, I do it for my component, GDB has -Werror default in development phases upstream. It cleans

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 19:16:54 +0200, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Never, ever ship software with -Werror enabled. I agree - for source distribution. Yes, GDB releases have -Werror turned off. > It's a development-only > option. You have no idea what gcc will decide is a warning in future, so > it'

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Kalev Lember
On 08/09/2011 07:50 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:44:31 +0200, Colin Walters wrote: >> Various projects have been adding AM_SILENT_RULES from Automake to >> their Makefiles for "developer convenience"; the goal being that they >> see warnings more easily. > > It is inconvenien

Does abrt work?

2011-08-09 Thread Neal Becker
Here's what I got trying to use retrace server for crash of inkscape: Retrace job failed Analyzing crash data OK Initializing virtual root OK Generating backtrace Error Unable to chmod the executable (exited with 1) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraprojec

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 19:39:55 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: > Please reread the whole message; this passage only reasons why various > UPSTREAMS have chosen to use silent rules. The patch is all about > globally enabling the verbose mode, exactly the same you were proposing > in the kernel ticket. OK,

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 07:34:48PM +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 19:16:54 +0200, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > It's a development-only > > option. You have no idea what gcc will decide is a warning in future, so > > it's effectively a "Please break my build in six months" toggle

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/09/2011 07:19 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 19:14:27 +0200, Adam Jackson wrote: >> If you're volunteering to fix and/or paper over all the spurious >> warnings gcc and glibc introduce with every phase of the moon, then >> sure. > > Yes, I do it for my component, GDB has -Wer

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 19:19 +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 19:14:27 +0200, Adam Jackson wrote: > > If you're volunteering to fix and/or paper over all the spurious > > warnings gcc and glibc introduce with every phase of the moon, then > > sure. > > Yes, I do it for my componen

Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-09 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 19:45:15 +0200, Matthew Garrett wrote: > If a package fails to build in a mass rebuild because -Werror was enabled > then that's additional work for several people to fix something that may not > have ever actually been broken. 99% of warnings will not lead to user visible bugs

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: cvsgraph

2011-08-09 Thread Bojan Smojver
Kevin Fenzi scrye.com> writes: > Done. Still having no luck submitting this as an update via bodhi. I get: bojan does not have commit access to cvsgraph Anyone knows what else is required for a package to be submitted as an update? It seems that commit access on the branch is not sufficient.