Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 00:01 -0400, Braden McDaniel a écrit : > Can someone explain (or point to) the rationale appending these to PATH > rather than prepending them? I would have expected user binaries to > supersede system ones. Security. You can do all kinds of mischief by overriding a

Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 00:01 -0400, Braden McDaniel wrote: > On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 08:45 -0430, Robert Marcano wrote: > > On 07/26/2011 08:36 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > > On 07/26/2011 08:03 AM, Misha Shnurapet wrote: > > >> 26.07.2011, 18:34, "Andrew Haley": > > >>> On 26/07/11 10:22, Misha S

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Fabian Deutsch wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 26.07.2011, 11:28 -0400 schrieb Bill Nottingham: > > Fabian Deutsch (fabian.deut...@gmx.de) said: > > > It seems as if my first mail (from 12 days ago) got lost: > > > I can take > > > > > > > Orphan link-grammar > > > > It'

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-27 Thread Fabian Deutsch
> - Ursprüngliche Nachricht - > Von: Peter Robinson > Gesendet: 27.07.11 10:09 Uhr > An: Development discussions related to Fedora > Betreff: Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning) > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Fabian Deutsch wrote: > > > Am Dienstag, den

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Karel Zak
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 09:34:04PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > I don't think it makes a lot of sense to have a visible directory for > binaries. People will see that, and be annoyed. (I have a suggestion, what about to install by default the old good heroin kernel module? It was able to

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:42:09 -0700, TK (Toshio) wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:24:58PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > > On 7/26/11 1:14 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > Yes, It got untagged. See last week's thread on this list: > > > Subject: rpm builds failing with "Installed (but unpackaged

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-27 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 11:03 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:42:09 -0700, TK (Toshio) wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:24:58PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > On 7/26/11 1:14 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > > Yes, It got untagged. See last week's thread on this l

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-27 Thread Marc Grimme
- "Toshio Kuratomi" wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:56:36PM +0200, Marc Grimme wrote: > > - "Bill Nottingham" wrote: > > > > > Orphan comoonics-base-py > > > comaintained by: elcody02 > > I'm co maintaining this package and it is required for the packages > comoonics-cdsl-py and co

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:02:14PM -0700, Josh Stone wrote: > On 07/26/2011 09:49 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 08:45:11AM -0430, Robert Marcano wrote: > >> In /etc/skel/.bash_profile they are added to the end and I think that is ok > >> > >> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Hi, Really, this discussion is pointless. It should be taken to whoever maintains the xdg directory layout specs nowadays (even the FHS editors gave up on normalizing /home layout and pushed the problem xdg-side) http://bugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=788#c5 http://standards.freedesktop.

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Andrew Haley
On 27/07/11 10:47, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:02:14PM -0700, Josh Stone wrote: >> On 07/26/2011 09:49 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 08:45:11AM -0430, Robert Marcano wrote: In /etc/skel/.bash_profile they are added to the end and I think t

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Andrew Haley
On 27/07/11 11:19, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Really, this discussion is pointless. It should be taken to whoever > maintains the xdg directory layout specs nowadays (even the FHS editors > gave up on normalizing /home layout and pushed the problem xdg-side) No, because this is not an xdg-mandated

Fedora 15 for IBM System z 64bit official release

2011-07-27 Thread Dan Horák
It's been a longer time since the Fedora 15 release for the primary architectures than we expected, but here we are. As today, the Fedora IBM System z (s390x) Secondary Arch team proudly presents the Fedora 15 for IBM System z 64bit official release! And without further ado, here the links to t

XDG and default directories (Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH)

2011-07-27 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, aside from the merits of adding ~/.local/bin, I just wanted to point out: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:19:51 +0200 Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > It's all been done to make nautilus happy with "user-friendly" > "localized" names on the user desktop (aping the windows mess). And > now gnome3 people have

Re: XDG and default directories (Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH)

2011-07-27 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 12:26 +0200, Stijn Hoop a écrit : > Hi, > > aside from the merits of adding ~/.local/bin, I just wanted to point > out: > > On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:19:51 +0200 > Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > It's all been done to make nautilus happy with "user-friendly" > > "localized"

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 07/27/2011 01:23 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 07:07 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: >> On 07/26/2011 02:15 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 07:24 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: >>> should not be surprised that you see resistance (what new capability does

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 11:23 +0100, Andrew Haley a écrit : > On 27/07/11 11:19, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > Really, this discussion is pointless. It should be taken to whoever > > maintains the xdg directory layout specs nowadays (even the FHS editors > > gave up on normalizing /home layou

Re: Starting a SIG for package reviews

2011-07-27 Thread Thomas Spura
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 01:01:36 -0500 Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > For a while now I've wanted to get some sort of package review SIG > going. The package review process hasn't really evolved much since it > was instituted way back when, and now it (and the portion of the > sponsorship process it o

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/27/2011 01:23 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> What specifically does systemd do that autofs does not do without it? > > I don't know if there is anything, but it's neat to get something like > this 'free' with systemd, without having to add any other package. Be a little wary. This i

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/27/2011 11:45 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 11:23 +0100, Andrew Haley a écrit : >> On 27/07/11 11:19, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> >>> Really, this discussion is pointless. It should be taken to whoever >>> maintains the xdg directory layout specs nowadays (even the

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 12:54 +0100, Andrew Haley a écrit : > On 07/27/2011 11:45 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 11:23 +0100, Andrew Haley a écrit : > >> On 27/07/11 11:19, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > >> > >>> Really, this discussion is pointless. It should be taken

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/27/2011 01:00 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 12:54 +0100, Andrew Haley a écrit : >> On 07/27/2011 11:45 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >>> Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 11:23 +0100, Andrew Haley a écrit : On 27/07/11 11:19, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Really

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 07/27/2011 11:43 AM, Ric Wheeler wrote: > On 07/27/2011 01:23 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 07:07 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: >>> We track autofs issues for fedora, upstream and RHEL and seems to work well >>> in >>> the field. >>> >>> What specifically does systemd do that

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 01:11:24PM +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > On 07/27/2011 11:43 AM, Ric Wheeler wrote: > > On 07/27/2011 01:23 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 07:07 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: > >>> We track autofs issues for fedora, upstream and RHEL and seems to work >

Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Robert Marcano
>> Can someone explain (or point to) the rationale appending these to PATH >> rather than prepending them? I would have expected user binaries to >> supersede system ones. > > Although there is probably only a small number of security > vulnerabilities of user applications that would allow just cr

File POE-Test-Loops-1.312.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by psabata

2011-07-27 Thread Petr Sabata
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-POE-Test-Loops: 8e352fe9c9592d642cdf8a4230af6ad2 POE-Test-Loops-1.312.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.or

[perl-POE-Test-Loops] 1.312 bump, dependencies and filters update, cleanup

2011-07-27 Thread Petr Sabata
commit a4d4b8e197e6d283fffe0a209558f5c28ebd7eb6 Author: Petr Sabata Date: Wed Jul 27 14:48:36 2011 +0200 1.312 bump, dependencies and filters update, cleanup .gitignore |1 + perl-POE-Test-Loops.spec | 42 +++--- sources

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/27/2011 05:10 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > Be a little wary. > > This is not really fine - systemd should do one thing and do it well > ... when it starts to bleed off and try do too many things (with little > to zero rationale or benefit) then the chances of things going wrong > increas

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 27.07.11 06:43, Ric Wheeler (rwhee...@redhat.com) wrote: > >>> (try 'noauto,comment=systemd.automount' as mount parameters for an NFS > >>> share) > >> We track autofs issues for fedora, upstream and RHEL and seems to work > >> well in > >> the field. > >> > >> What specifically does syst

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 27.07.11 13:11, Bryn M. Reeves (b...@redhat.com) wrote: > It appears to use the kernel autofs support but replaces the userspace daemon > (and replaces the traditional automounter map file format with > system.automount > unit files). > > I can appreciate a benefit for personal systems f

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 27.07.11 10:30, Karel Zak (k...@redhat.com) wrote: > > Note that there are a number of 3rd party projects making use of > > ~/.config/bin afaik, including jhbuild which installs its executable to > > that dir. > > It would be nice to clean up $HOME, radically reduce the number of > the

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 15:54 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > I think the discussion where to place this is moot anyway, as the spec > has been written years ago and widely (though not universally) > implemented, and we should just stick to it, since where it to place it > is nothing more than bi

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 27.07.11 13:10, Andrew Haley (a...@redhat.com) wrote: > > Nah, the basedir spec does not mandate the bin subdir. > > > > WHat I said in the bug report is that I think it makes a lot of sense to > > have the XDG basedir stuff in the $PATH. > > I have to say that > > a. xdg (in the form

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > I think the right approach here is to prep a patch for the spec and make > the dir official given that a) it probably makes sense to have a > standardized dir like this, I can't really see who is the expected user of ~/.local/bin . From

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 27.07.11 10:01, seth vidal (skvi...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: > On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 15:54 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > I think the discussion where to place this is moot anyway, as the spec > > has been written years ago and widely (though not universally) > > implemented, and

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 27.07.11 16:05, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > I think the right approach here is to prep a patch for the spec and make > > the dir official given that a) it probably makes sense to have a > > standardized dir li

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:54:09 +0200 Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 27.07.11 10:30, Karel Zak (k...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > > Note that there are a number of 3rd party projects making use of > > > ~/.config/bin afaik, including jhbuild which installs its > > > executable to that dir. > > >

Re: merge into dist-f16

2011-07-27 Thread Petr Pisar
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 02:43:42PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 09:16:57AM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: > > > > We will remove perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.*) from perl package soon which > > should > > affect following packages (require perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.*) in dist-f16) > >

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 27.07.11 16:05, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Lennart Poettering >> wrote: >> > I think the right approach here is to prep a patch for the spec and make >> > the dir official given tha

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:13:11 +0200 Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 27.07.11 16:05, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Lennart Poettering > > wrote: > > > I think the right approach here is to prep a patch for the spec > > > and make the dir off

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 27.07.11 07:40, Genes MailLists (li...@sapience.com) wrote: > > On 07/27/2011 01:23 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > >> > >> What specifically does systemd do that autofs does not do without it? > > > > I don't know if there is anything, but it's neat to get something like > > this 'free'

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 04:24:06PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > IMHO the ~/.local/bin place is a mistake, and it's still not too late > to stop making this mistake irreversible. Yeah. Every $PATH element has its runtime cost (execvp needs to search that path, at least for unsuccessful searches,

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Karel Zak
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 03:54:09PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 27.07.11 10:30, Karel Zak (k...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > > Note that there are a number of 3rd party projects making use of > > > ~/.config/bin afaik, including jhbuild which installs its executable to > > > that dir. >

Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
One thing to watch out for is /var/empty. I have had to manually recreate /var/empty and /var/empty/sshd to get the server to work again. This might be related to the recent rpm issue, but I am not sure about that. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: XDG and default directories (Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH)

2011-07-27 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:43:09 +0200 Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 12:26 +0200, Stijn Hoop a écrit : > > and even better is the fact that I can now put that area > > somewhere else than on our default stupidly-expensive backupped NFS > > filesystem. > > And what will

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/27/2011 12:20 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 27/07/11 10:47, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:02:14PM -0700, Josh Stone wrote: >>> On 07/26/2011 09:49 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 08:45:11AM -0430, Robert Marcano wrote: > In /etc/skel/.ba

Perl 5.14 upgrade progress

2011-07-27 Thread Petr Pisar
Current status of Perl 5.14 upgrade Everyting is in Fedora 16, if you need to fix something, you need to go through bodhi. We cover 99.57 % Perl packages now. Following packages are still broken: perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools – built (perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools-0.013-4.fc1

[perl-Cache-FastMmap] update to 1.39

2011-07-27 Thread Iain Arnell
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[pkgdb] perl-Business-CreditCard ownership changed

2011-07-27 Thread Fedora PackageDB
Package perl-Business-CreditCard in Fedora 16 is now owned by ppisar To make changes to this package see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/perl-Business-CreditCard -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists

[perl-Cache-FastMmap/f16] update to 1.39

2011-07-27 Thread Iain Arnell
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[perl-Data-Serializer] update to 0.59

2011-07-27 Thread Iain Arnell
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Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 08:14 -0430, Robert Marcano a écrit : > appending helps a little, but if a security vulnerability allows a > intruder to put binaries on ~/bin, I think it will not be difficult to > overwrite .bash_profile (Unless something like SELinux is used to > protect startup

[perl-Cache-FastMmap/f15] (2 commits) ...update to 1.39

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[perl-Data-Serializer/f16] update to 0.59

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[perl-Cache-FastMmap/f14] (3 commits) ...update to 1.39

2011-07-27 Thread Iain Arnell
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[perl-Data-Serializer/f15] (2 commits) ...update to 0.59

2011-07-27 Thread Iain Arnell
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Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Roman Rakus
Hi all, from the discussion here, I'm tempted to revert the change. Any objections? RR -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

[perl-Data-Serializer/f14] (5 commits) ...update to 0.59

2011-07-27 Thread Iain Arnell
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Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 17:40 +0200, Roman Rakus wrote: > Hi all, > from the discussion here, I'm tempted to revert the change. Any objections? If it helps ending this discussion I'm all for it. ~/.local/bin is not worth this amount of time, regardless whether it was a good idea to begin with or no

Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-27 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 09:33 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > One thing to watch out for is /var/empty. I have had to manually recreate > /var/empty and /var/empty/sshd to get the server to work again. This > might be related to the recent rpm issue, but I am not sure about that. Yes, it is related

howto not strip .so on install

2011-07-27 Thread Neal Becker
Trying to help packaging dmtcp. There are 2 shared libs installed. They are stripped by the rpm install, and then fail when attempting to dlopen them (or 1 of them). 1. Is that normal behaviour? 2. How can I avoid it? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedorapr

Re: howto not strip .so on install

2011-07-27 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > Trying to help packaging dmtcp.  There are 2 shared libs installed.  They are > stripped by the rpm install, and then fail when attempting to dlopen them (or > 1 > of them). > > 1. Is that normal behaviour? > 2. How can I avoid it? Maybe a m

Re: howto not strip .so on install

2011-07-27 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 11:48 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > Trying to help packaging dmtcp. There are 2 shared libs installed. They are > stripped by the rpm install, and then fail when attempting to dlopen them (or > 1 > of them). > > 1. Is that normal behaviour? No, the strip performed by the

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[perl-Devel-Declare] update to 0.006005

2011-07-27 Thread Iain Arnell
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[perl-Devel-Declare/f16] update to 0.006005

2011-07-27 Thread Iain Arnell
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[perl-Dist-Zilla] update to 4.200012

2011-07-27 Thread Iain Arnell
commit b5a8f94cfeed159cc40fc27f363bf7bc572e4dbb Author: Iain Arnell Date: Wed Jul 27 18:08:09 2011 +0200 update to 4.200012 perl-Dist-Zilla.spec |7 +-- 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Dist-Zilla.spec b/perl-Dist-Zilla.spec index 2332d33..6c8

[perl-Dist-Zilla/f16] update to 4.200012

2011-07-27 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: b5a8f94... update to 4.200012 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/

Re: howto not strip .so on install

2011-07-27 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > Trying to help packaging dmtcp.  There are 2 shared libs installed.  They are > stripped by the rpm install, and then fail when attempting to dlopen them (or > 1 > of them). Fail how? What's the error? -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-27 Thread Jesse Keating
On 7/27/11 2:03 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > There is a big difference between "a package going backwards in its EVR > and staying there" and "a package getting untagged because it breaks koji > buildroot and with the plan to go forward in EVR as soon as the bug is > found and fixed". If it goes

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 27.07.11 17:40, Roman Rakus (rra...@redhat.com) wrote: > > Hi all, > from the discussion here, I'm tempted to revert the change. Any objections? Yes. I am for keeping it in, and have prepped a patch for XDG basedir to make it official. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. --

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/27/2011 12:19 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 27.07.11 17:40, Roman Rakus (rra...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> >> Hi all, >> from the discussion here, I'm tempted to revert the change. Any objections? > > Yes. I am for keeping it in, and have prepped a patch for XDG basedir to > make it

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 07/27/2011 12:19 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> On Wed, 27.07.11 17:40, Roman Rakus (rra...@redhat.com) wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> from the discussion here, I'm tempted to revert the change. Any objections? >> >> Yes. I am for keepi

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 05:40:39PM +0200, Roman Rakus wrote: > Hi all, from the discussion here, I'm tempted to revert the > change. Any objections? +1 Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones New in Fedora 11: Fedora Windows cross-compiler. Compile

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 06:19:19PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 27.07.11 17:40, Roman Rakus (rra...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > from the discussion here, I'm tempted to revert the change. Any objections? > > Yes. I am for keeping it in, and have prepped a patch for XDG

Re: howto not strip .so on install

2011-07-27 Thread Neal Becker
Jerry James wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Neal Becker wrote: >> Trying to help packaging dmtcp. There are 2 shared libs installed. They are >> stripped by the rpm install, and then fail when attempting to dlopen them (or >> 1 of them). > > Fail how? What's the error? 1. Get srpm h

Re: howto not strip .so on install

2011-07-27 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > 7. Verify that the only difference is replacing the shared libs installed via > rpm vs. the same shared libs installed without rpm. > > So something that rpm does to the shared libs (in /usr/lib64/dmtcp) is > breaking > things.  The only thin

Re: howto not strip .so on install

2011-07-27 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Jerry James wrote: > It isn't strip.  If I run strip on the version of libmtcp.so left in > the build dir and copy it over /usr/lib64/dmtcp/libmtcp.so, then it > also works.  But that version is different from the one installed by > rpm.  Watch this: > > $ ldd -r

Re: howto not strip .so on install

2011-07-27 Thread Neal Becker
>Jerry James wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Jerry James wrote: >> It isn't strip. If I run strip on the version of libmtcp.so left in >> the build dir and copy it over /usr/lib64/dmtcp/libmtcp.so, then it >> also works. But that version is different from the one installed by >> rpm.

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:19:08 -0700, JK (Jesse) wrote: > On 7/27/11 2:03 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > There is a big difference between "a package going backwards in its EVR > > and staying there" and "a package getting untagged because it breaks koji > > buildroot and with the plan to go forwar

Review swaps

2011-07-27 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hello, Would any one like to swap reviews :)? These two are *very very* simple packages that need to be reviewed. They're holding up xmedcon[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714327 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714326 [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-27 Thread drago01
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:19:08 -0700, JK (Jesse) wrote: > >> On 7/27/11 2:03 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> > There is a big difference between "a package going backwards in its EVR >> > and staying there" and "a package getting untagged bec

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 20:46:25 +0200, drago01 wrote: > > The proper fix would have been to just use epoch. People can call them > evil all they want they are perfectly suitable for that kind of > problems. Or just rebuild the old version again. (Which should work unless something external to

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-27 Thread Bill Nottingham
Marc Grimme (gri...@atix.de) said: > I've done this but could not take over the ownership for Fedora-devel. It's > still orphaned there. Correct, because the packages have already been blocked as stated in the mail. > I also got reminders from rawhide that the dependent packages could not be >

Re: Review swaps

2011-07-27 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > Hello, > > Would any one like to swap reviews :)? > > These two are *very very* simple packages that need to be reviewed. > They're holding up xmedcon[1] > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714327 > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/sho

Re: Review swaps

2011-07-27 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 14:00 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > Sure, I can probably pick one up. I don't have any unassigned right > now but I'll settle for finishing up OpenImageIO[1] :) > > Thanks, > Richard > > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=720411 > > I'm just finishing up with

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Marc-André Lureau
Hi 2011/7/27 Miloslav Trmač : > (And of course, the thing to standardize would not be "bin", but a > subdirectory structure as defined by the GNU standards for --prefix.) I agree, it is precisely what I would like to see in a standard, a home "GNU" prefix for installing projects locally (that is,

Re: howto not strip .so on install

2011-07-27 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > Sounds like the best course of action is to just disable debugedit? > 1. Would this be acceptable for a fedora package? > 2. Is it possible to  disable debugedit? I don't think disabling debugedit is necessary. I think I see the problem. Ca

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.07.2011 21:59, schrieb Marc-André Lureau: > I don't understand the security risks. If something is allowed to > write to ~/.local/bin (or ~/bin etc..), then surely it's able to read > elsewhere or do something else nasty. Could someone detail it? Depends on the PATH-Order if something is

Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-27 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 23:46 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 26.07.11 17:16, James Antill (ja...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: > > > > Perhaps it's because in %postun it has "systemctl try-restart > > > sshd.service" where it used to have "service sshd condrestart", and > > > systemd kills a

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Jesse Keating
On 7/27/11 1:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Depends on the PATH-Order > > if something is intended to be first in PATH and any attacker is able > to write there his "ls" would win against "/bin/ls" So, the attacker can write a compromised ls into .local/bin/, but isn't able to modify your .bash_pr

[Test-Announce] 2011-07-29 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #3

2011-07-27 Thread Tim Flink
# F16 Alpha Blocker Review meeting #3 # Date: 2011-07-29 # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT, 10:00 MST) # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net It's once again time for everyone's favorite activity - blocker bug review meeting time !! Fedora 16 has branched and the first Alpha

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/27/2011 05:00 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > On 7/27/11 1:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Depends on the PATH-Order >> >> if something is intended to be first in PATH and any attacker is able >> to write there his "ls" would win against "/bin/ls" > > So, the attacker can write a compromised ls in

File HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables-0.01.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by rlandmann

2011-07-27 Thread Rüdiger Landmann
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables: 0f6132d17056f2b2c20d03f31ea0c533 HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables-0.01.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedor

[perl-HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables] new package

2011-07-27 Thread Rüdiger Landmann
commit 915d96553441413c57128abe1919daf2d516af8c Author: Ruediger Landmann Date: Thu Jul 28 07:25:01 2011 +1000 new package .gitignore|1 + perl-HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables.spec | 66 + sources

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:14:22 -0400 Genes MailLists wrote: > On 07/27/2011 05:00 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > > On 7/27/11 1:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> Depends on the PATH-Order > >> > >> if something is intended to be first in PATH and any attacker is > >> able to write there his "ls" would w

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.07.2011 23:00, schrieb Jesse Keating: > On 7/27/11 1:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Depends on the PATH-Order >> >> if something is intended to be first in PATH and any attacker is able >> to write there his "ls" would win against "/bin/ls" > > So, the attacker can write a compromised ls i

Outage: Server reboots - 2011-08-01 14:00 UTC

2011-07-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Outage: Server reboots - 2011-08-01 14:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2011-08-01 14:00 UTC, which will last approximately 2 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2011-08-01 14:00 UTC' Reason fo

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 06:43 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: > >> What specifically does systemd do that autofs does not do without it? > > I don't know if there is anything, but it's neat to get something like > > this 'free' with systemd, without having to add any other package. > > It is fine for rea

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