On Tuesday, June 14, 2011 06:51:18 AM Genes MailLists wrote:
> On 06/13/2011 08:14 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Henrik Wejdmark wrote:
> >> I have been with this distro since RH4 and have had a great time doing
> >> so. Almost every upgrade has been really smooth with only a few minor
> >> setbacks
On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 21:44 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> > I wouldn't bother much if it would be just one tiny bit of strange code
> > in systemd, but it is FAR from being the only such code. There are lots
> > of similar stuff, and it's not accidental.
>
> It is definitely not accidental, but unles
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:48 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
>> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 22:14:27 -0400 Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
>>> Having a quick look at the link and at the steps to reproduce the bug
>>> gave me shivers. Are we really sure that systemd i
On Tuesday 14 June 2011 01:05:57 Kevin Kofler wrote:
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On 06/14/2011 12:50 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 21:44 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
>>> I wouldn't bother much if it would be just one tiny bit of strange code
>>> in systemd, but it is FAR from being the only such code. There are lots
>>> of similar stuff, and it's not accidental.
On Mon, 13.06.11 18:01, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 17:29 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Mon, 13.06.11 15:27, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
> >
> > > kmod_setup(); <=== ???
> >
> > We load a couple of kernel modul
On Mon, 13.06.11 17:19, Matthew Garrett (mj...@srcf.ucam.org) wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 05:13:39PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> >On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Matthew Garrett
> >wrote:
> > The point of providing a platform is that developers can make certain
> > a
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 01:13:01AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> > Try "rm /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon". Works like a charm.
>
> Randomly removing pieces of installed packages has never been supported.
I think the console-kit-daemon service can be disabled, but xinit
prefi
On Mon, 13.06.11 18:01, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
> >> "plymouth_running()"? Plymouth? Systemd knows about plymouth? Why?
> >
> > Because we need to constantly send updates to it. It's a trivial socket
> > operation. It
On Mon, 13.06.11 12:37, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 18:01 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> > > We invoke sethostname() from inside systemd since that is one of the
> > > most trivial system calls known to men and doing this with a
> > separate
> > > binary is just
On Mon, 13.06.11 18:18, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 10:17 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> > > Hi Lennart,
> > >
> > > systemd is eating a lot more memory than any other init process
> > > I ever played w
On Mon, 13.06.11 18:18, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 10:17 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> > > Hi Lennart,
> > >
> > > systemd is eating a lot more memory than any other init process
> > > I ever played w
On Mon, 13.06.11 19:02, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 12:37 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 18:01 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> > > > We invoke sethostname() from inside systemd since that is one of the
> > > > most trivial system calls
On Mon, 13.06.11 22:46, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > In this case you are not better/worse than before, once the network will
> > come up you'll add a script to change the hostname.
> > Setting it earlier in systemd makes no difference.
>
> You continue to avoid answering my qu
On Tue, 14.06.11 09:20, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 21:44 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> > > I wouldn't bother much if it would be just one tiny bit of strange code
> > > in systemd, but it is FAR from being the only such code. There are lots
> > > of similar
On 2011-06-13, Petr Pisar wrote:
> On 2011-06-10, Luke Macken wrote:
>> * Buildroot Override Management
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bodhi/BuildRootOverrides
> Excuse me for my low knowledge, what is good for?
>
[...]
> Also the bodhi(1) from bodhi-client-0.8.0-1.fc15.noarch does no
Hallo to all,
my name is Mario Santagiuliana, I am an Italian medical student. I start to
use Fedora from the first release, then I upgrade to Fedora Core 3 and so
on.
I am a member of the Italian L10n team. I am a collaborator of
fedoraonline.it, the Italian portal for Fedora community (linked
On Mon, 13.06.11 17:41, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
> > On Mon, 13.06.11 14:27, Matthew Garrett (mj...@srcf.ucam.org) wrote:
> >> It's a directory for arch-dependent stuff that should only exist once on
> >> a system, whe
> > You can use the internal identifier (which is never translated),
> > yum groupinstall development-tools
In F15, "yum grouplist" lists the identifier after each translation.
For earlier releases I think you may have to lowercase the English
and replace space by a hyphen? In the worst case one
On Mon, 13.06.11 11:52, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 17:41 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Lennart Poettering
> > wrote:
> > > On Mon, 13.06.11 14:27, Matthew Garrett (mj...@srcf.ucam.org) wrote:
> > >> It's a directory for arch-dep
On Mon, 13.06.11 13:25, Matthew Miller (mat...@mattdm.org) wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 05:36:00PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > That is not really how it is. /lib is for arch-dependent stuff including
> > the libraries of the primary arch. Libraries for secondary archs are
> > then
On Tue, 14.06.11 00:31, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) wrote:
>
> Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > What is the benefit of a separate libexecdir?
>
> The distinction between stuff which belongs into %{_libdir}, which is
> different for 32-bit vs. 64-bit, vs. stuff which always goes to the sa
Hi,
Of course my target is Scilab :)
[https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472639] but before that I
also need jhdf (hdf-java) and hdf-view.
Le lundi 13 juin 2011 à 12:37 +0100, José Matos a écrit :
> On Thursday 09 June 2011 15:54:14 Clément David wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > My name is Clémen
Hi folks,
Anyone knows how to contact cvsgraph maintainer (Marek Mahut)? Bug is
here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=709923
I already built the package for EL6, but don't have enough karma to put
it in bodhi. It's a requirement for viewvc, which I maintain.
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Hi,
Thanks for the suggestion but I don't use this software, thus it might
be hard to test :).
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Le lundi 13 juin 2011 à 13:44 +0200, Johannes Lips a écrit :
> Welcome to fedora,
>
> I am glad that you managed to get jlatexmath into fedora.
> If you are interested in mind-mapping there
2011/6/13 Kevin Kofler :
> Reindl Harald wrote:
>> and even on a new setup this should be a decision of the user
>> at the very beginning what init-system he wants to us
>
> No, the choice of this kind of core under-the-hood system components should
> be a decision of the distribution. To the user,
On 06/14/2011 03:15 PM, Rudolf Kastl wrote:
> From experience... i prefer having two tools available atleast to do
> every single job (especially when they exist) because then i have an
> easy fallback if one fails. Having upstart installed on rawhide during
> the f15 rawhide cycles was quite helpf
On 14 June 2011 09:42, Mario Santagiuliana wrote:
> Hallo to all,
> my name is Mario Santagiuliana, I am an Italian medical student. I start to
> use Fedora from the first release, then I upgrade to Fedora Core 3 and so
> on.
>
> I am a member of the Italian L10n team. I am a collaborator of
> fed
2011/6/14 Ralf Corsepius :
> On 06/14/2011 12:26 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Haïkel Guémar wrote:
>>> I spent some time yesterday talking with opensuse guys on irc, since
>>> /usr/libexec has not been blessed by FHS
> libexecdir is GNU Standards for ages (decades).
>
> It's supposed to be kind of an
My laptop can't finish boot with systemd-28-4.fc16 and
kernel-3.0-0.rc2.git0.2.fc16 - the boot
process just stops at random points and CPU usage goes high.
systemd-28-3.fc16 and kernel-3.0-0.rc2.git0.2.fc16 - did not have this behavior.
The only possible way to boot is to add "selinux=0".
Espec
On 14/06/11 11:02, Lucas wrote:
> The only possible way to boot is to add "selinux=0".
> Especially for Daniel J Walsh, the addition of "enforcing=0" doesn't make any
> difference - boot stops.
>
> Thanks.
Last time I had similar problem, ended up:
rpm -e --nodeps selinux-policy selinux-policy-
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:16:16 +1000, BS wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Anyone knows how to contact cvsgraph maintainer (Marek Mahut)? Bug is
> here:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=709923
>
> I already built the package for EL6, but don't have enough karma to put
> it in bodhi. It's a re
On 06/14/2011 11:57 AM, 80 wrote:
> 2011/6/14 Ralf Corsepius:
>> On 06/14/2011 12:26 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>>> Haïkel Guémar wrote:
I spent some time yesterday talking with opensuse guys on irc, since
/usr/libexec has not been blessed by FHS
>> libexecdir is GNU Standards for ages (deca
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 09:42 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Mon, 13.06.11 18:01, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > Maybe. It's not up to a piece of software to decide.
> > In Unix, admins should have power to decide, not programs.
> > Programs provide the means, they don't dicta
Michael Schwendt gmail.com> writes:
> Wrong terminology used here. "Karma" in bodhi is unrelated to who can
> publish updates there. You've requested "commit" access for cvsgraph EPEL
> 6 in pkgdb, and Marek would need to approve that request.
>
> http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/cvsgraph
> https:/
I've installed XFCE. It was easy to install, and it works sanely
(unlike GNOME 3 / Unity).
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On 06/14/2011 11:17 AM, Somebody in the thread at some point said:
Hi -
>> Dude, systemd requires the functionality of the three modules it loads
>> explicitly.
>
> systemd requires ipv6.
> And you pitch systemd to be used by embedded devices.
>
> Do you really think all embedded devices will be
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 10:20 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Mon, 13.06.11 22:46, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > Slide 6:
> > "We can now boot a system shell-free"
> >
> > IOW: shell is bad, my new shiny toy is good.
>
> Oh god. If you had listened you'd have understood that
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On 06/14/2011 02:10 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 14/06/11 11:02, Lucas wrote:
>
>> The only possible way to boot is to add "selinux=0".
>> Especially for Daniel J Walsh, the addition of "enforcing=0" doesn't make
>> any difference - boot stops.
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> Last time I had similar problem, e
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 11:31 +0100, "Andy Green (林安廸)" wrote:
> >> Dude, systemd requires the functionality of the three modules it loads
> >> explicitly.
> >
> > systemd requires ipv6.
> > And you pitch systemd to be used by embedded devices.
> >
> > Do you really think all embedded devices will be
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On 06/14/2011 04:13 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> I talk to a lot of embedded people. Tiny machines are not going to
> disappear anytime soon - they just go into smaller and smaller gadgets.
>
> For example, there are still a noticeable segment of NOMMU CPUs, meaning
> if you really target embedded,
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On Tue, 14.06.11 12:17, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 09:42 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Mon, 13.06.11 18:01, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > Maybe. It's not up to a piece of software to decide.
> > > In Unix, admins should have
Is not it easy to remove everything from:
default.target
basic.target
graphical.target
...
and then add whatever we want to start or to execute or mount?
I do not really care what systemd CAN do, but really care what it is doing on
my system.
So, may be some cleaning will be the wise solution.
On 06/14/2011 11:43 AM, Somebody in the thread at some point said:
>> For what's left, eg ARM9+ that you can run normal Linux and Fedora on,
>> ipv6 is going to be workable if the memory allows. Looking a year or
>> two ahead, where "Embedded" will extend to Cortex A15 quad core, and
>> IPv6 will
2011/6/14 Rahul Sundaram :
> On 06/14/2011 03:15 PM, Rudolf Kastl wrote:
>> From experience... i prefer having two tools available atleast to do
>> every single job (especially when they exist) because then i have an
>> easy fallback if one fails. Having upstart installed on rawhide during
>> the f
On 06/14/2011 04:36 PM, Rudolf Kastl wrote:
> I never proposed having alternatives for each of the core systems
> either... There is already a viable alternative that works. inittab
> contains atm exactly one line... the one with the default runlevel...
> and /etc/fstab can be parsed differently if
On 06/14/2011 04:06 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Mon, 13.06.11 19:02, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 12:37 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 18:01 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
We invoke sethostname() from inside systemd since that is one of
On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 13:35 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On 6/13/11 12:18 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
>
> > Sloppy attitude like this is the reason just about any daemon
> > (more and more of which pop up like mushrooms in every new release,
> > I must add) eats at least a few megabytes of RAM.
>
>
2011/6/14 Itamar Reis Peixoto :
> where I can get a list of internal identifiers
"yum grouplist -v" shows them.
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On Tue, 14.06.11 12:36, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 10:20 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Mon, 13.06.11 22:46, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > Slide 6:
> > > "We can now boot a system shell-free"
> > >
> > > IOW: shell is bad, m
On Tue, 14.06.11 07:14, Steve Clark (scl...@netwolves.com) wrote:
> On 06/14/2011 04:06 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >On Mon, 13.06.11 19:02, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 12:37 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> >>>On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 18:01 +0200, Denys Vl
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 09:53 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > Changing a machine hostname at random times is just asking for
> > trouble.
>
> Well, but it has been used in the past, and as definitely something we
> should support in one way or another.
Never said we shouldn't allow it to chang
On 06/14/2011 07:08 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 06/14/2011 04:36 PM, Rudolf Kastl wrote:
I never proposed having alternatives for each of the core systems
either... There is already a viable alternative that works. inittab
contains atm exactly one line... the one with the default runlevel...
an
On 06/14/2011 04:56 PM, Steve Clark wrote:
> You already are maintaining multiple UI systems which seem to me to be
> much more complex than
> two different "init" systems.
Not the same thing at all. Maintenance of desktop environments doesn't
affect people outside a few people who do that. If
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 13:14 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 14.06.11 12:36, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> >
> > On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 10:20 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > On Mon, 13.06.11 22:46, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > > Slide 6:
> >
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 12:53 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> daemontools can be set up in a way than most init scripts are
> > no longer necessary. It also achieves parallelized start.
>
> This is bogus.
Amazingly deep argument. Can you do better than this?
> > > > > Hmm? systemd is an init s
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 01:42:42PM +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> (anything they could do in shell scripts, but not they can't). This will
> feel good, right? You will be such an important guy!
I think most lurkers have understood you seem to have some personal
issues with Lennart. Please still sh
Hi,
my name is Heiko Adams, I am a professional Windows (please don't blame
me for that :D) Software developer and Fedora user since several years.
A filed a review request for flyback
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713122) because it was the
only backup software I found which allows
On Tue, 14.06.11 07:25, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > What's the problem of having a specific hostname set up at boot
> > time ?
> >
> > The user might want to change it?
>
> Does setting it at boot time prevent you from changing it later ?
No, systemd will initialize it at boot and
On 06/14/2011 05:35 PM, Heiko Adams wrote:
> Hi,
> my name is Heiko Adams, I am a professional Windows (please don't blame
> me for that :D) Software developer and Fedora user since several years.
>
> A filed a review request for flyback
> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713122) becaus
2011/6/14 Ralf Corsepius :
>
> Well, I would agree to tolerating /usr/lib// (Which btw is the
> current defacto rule in Fedora practice) but would disagree otherwise,
> because
>
> - /usr/share (aka datadir) is reserved for "arch-independent data", i.e.
> should not contain executables and programs
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On 06/14/2011 06:37 AM, Lucas wrote:
> On 06/14/2011 02:10 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
>> On 14/06/11 11:02, Lucas wrote:
>>
>>> The only possible way to boot is to add "selinux=0".
>>> Especially for Daniel J Walsh, the addition of "enforcing=0" doesn't
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On 06/14/2011 04:00 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Mon, 13.06.11 18:18, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 10:17 +0200, drago01 wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
Hi Lenna
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:25 PM, drago01 wrote:
> Well you can't expect him to test every possible scenario (no matter
> how trivial it is). I never saw an fstab with a trailing slash so I
> wouldn't have though about testing it either.
Same here. I actually spent a good chunk of my _volunteer
Dne 14.6.2011 14:05, Heiko Adams napsal(a):
> my name is Heiko Adams, I am a professional Windows (please don't blame
> me for that :D)
No blame! We are sorry for you ;)
Welcome on board!
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On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 11:25 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> I've installed XFCE. It was easy to install, and it works sanely
> (unlike GNOME 3 / Unity).
And you can add some interesting tools around xfce which enhance,imo,
its operation.
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Am 14.06.2011 15:15, schrieb Jeff Spaleta:
> Is directory path handling with regard to trailing slashes something
> worth adding as an autoQA test target in the future?Not just for
> mount but for a group of commands? Something worth considering? I'm
> happy to write the initial test scrip
On 06/13/2011 11:57 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> Fedora could well benefit from switching to a rolling release model
> as well (no not rawhide - a controlled rolling release much as the
> kernel development follows).
I ran rolling release distros on my laptops for a while - Gentoo, then
Debian
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> Multilib subdirs are arbitrary directory names. There is no convention
> of them being named "lib*".
There is, it's written in the FHS:
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#LIBLTQUALGTALTERNATEFORMATESSENTIAL
But I don't see anything banning =exec there!
K
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> Multilib subdirs are arbitrary directory names. There is no convention
> of them being named "lib*".
PS: Actually this:
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#USRLIBLTQUALGTALTERNATEFORMATLIBRARI
is the relevant reference for /usr/lib (the other one was for
/lib).
Lennart Poettering wrote:
> Well, but in which way is arch-dependent non-executable data any
> different from private binaries? I see no reason why one should live in
> libdir, and the other in libexecdir.
Arch-dependent libraries need to be multilib (both in lib and lib64), for
executables, only
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> i think this would be a good idea
>
> PHP (my main language) is fighting with traling slash or not troubles
> over all the years, but there is nothing to stop the boot-process and
> systemd is a very different level of software
Let's be clea
On 06/14/2011 04:02 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> Multilib subdirs are arbitrary directory names. There is no convention
>> of them being named "lib*".
>
> There is, it's written in the FHS:
> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#LIBLTQUALGTALTERNATEFORMATESSENTIAL
This
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 14:08 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 14.06.11 07:25, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> > > > What's the problem of having a specific hostname set up at boot
> > > time ?
> > >
> > > The user might want to change it?
> >
> > Does setting it at boot time pre
Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> I think the console-kit-daemon service can be disabled, but xinit
> prefixes xsession with ck-xinit-session which seems to start the
> daemon on demand. It would be nice if xinit could be configured to not
> use it.
ConsoleKit is not optional (at least in Fedora 7 to 15).
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> i think this would be a good idea
>>
>> PHP (my main language) is fighting with traling slash or not troubles
>> over all the years, but there is nothing to stop the boot-process and
>>
On 06/14/2011 04:38 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
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> On 06/14/2011 06:37 AM, Lucas wrote:
>> On 06/14/2011 02:10 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
>>> On 14/06/11 11:02, Lucas wrote:
>>>
The only possible way to boot is to add "selinux=0".
Especially
On Tue, 14.06.11 18:48, Lucas (macach...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > Do you see any errors?
>
> Just checked it. Yum reinstalled selinux-policy-targeted, then relabeling,
> then reboot and process
> stops on: Starting Remount Root FS. And nothing more, no errors, systemd hung.
Boot with "systemd.log
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> I understand the inconsistency and it is indeed a bug in mount.
>
> Nevertheless you are missing the point. If X worked before (X=mounting
> at boot with fstab containing trailing slashes), and stops working now
> because of the change Y I
On 06/14/2011 06:36 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> You go quite farther than that.
>
> "We can now boot a system shell-free". *Shell-free*.
>
> You are not saying "driving boot process by shell scripts is slow
> because ... ... ..." (an argument I would agree with), you are
> aiming at *eliminating* s
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 04:36:25PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> > I think the console-kit-daemon service can be disabled, but xinit
> > prefixes xsession with ck-xinit-session which seems to start the
> > daemon on demand. It would be nice if xinit could be configured to n
Am 14.06.2011 16:36, schrieb Kevin Kofler:
> Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
>> I think the console-kit-daemon service can be disabled, but xinit
>> prefixes xsession with ck-xinit-session which seems to start the
>> daemon on demand. It would be nice if xinit could be configured to not
>> use it.
>
> C
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I decided to try to help the cause of Bayesian statistics and the open
source effort of the OpenBUGS group (http://www.openbugs.info/w/) by
making some packages. In case you are not a statistically-inclined
person, it is worth knowing that Bayesian Updating with Gibbs Sampling
(BUGS) has caused so
> I decided to try to help the cause of Bayesian statistics and the open
> source effort of the OpenBUGS group (http://www.openbugs.info/w/) by
> making some packages. In case you are not a statistically-inclined
> person, it is worth knowing that Bayesian Updating with Gibbs Sampling
> (BUGS) ha
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 10:54 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> > I decided to try to help the cause of Bayesian statistics and the open
> > source effort of the OpenBUGS group (http://www.openbugs.info/w/) by
> > making some packages. In case you are not a statistically-inclined
> > person, it is worth kn
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=710646
mdadm needs a fix to work with the new kernel versioning for 3.0 kernels.
Milan Broz has a proposed patch and has asked for commit access to mdadm
and no action has been taken by the package owner in over a week since
the proposed patch has been po
On 06/14/2011 07:31 AM, seth vidal wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 11:25 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> I've installed XFCE. It was easy to install, and it works sanely
>> (unlike GNOME 3 / Unity).
>
>
> And you can add some interesting tools around xfce which enhance,imo,
> its operation.
Do
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:06:47AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=710646
>
> mdadm needs a fix to work with the new kernel versioning for 3.0 kernels.
> Milan Broz has a proposed patch and has asked for commit access to mdadm
> and no action has been tak
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Thomas Moschny
wrote:
> 2011/6/14 Itamar Reis Peixoto :
>> where I can get a list of internal identifiers
>
> "yum grouplist -v" shows them.
>
> Thomas Moschny
thank you, its very useful when you're talking to a spanish person,
because you can tell the english na
On 06/14/2011 12:27 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
> On 06/14/2011 07:31 AM, seth vidal wrote:
>> On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 11:25 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>>> I've installed XFCE. It was easy to install, and it works sanely
>>> (unlike GNOME 3 / Unity).
>>
>>
>> And you can add some interestin
On 06/14/2011 06:53 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 14.06.11 18:48, Lucas (macach...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>>> Do you see any errors?
>>
>> Just checked it. Yum reinstalled selinux-policy-targeted, then relabeling,
>> then reboot and process
>> stops on: Starting Remount Root FS. And nothing
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 01:55:08PM +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> With sufficient amount of nutty hackery it may be possible to figure is
> out, but it will be either racy, or will require labeling (process
> groups? session ids? cgroups?) which, in general, is not reliable:
> processes can escape
On Tue, 14.06.11 21:32, Lucas (macach...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> On 06/14/2011 06:53 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Tue, 14.06.11 18:48, Lucas (macach...@gmail.com) wrote:
> >
> >>> Do you see any errors?
> >>
> >> Just checked it. Yum reinstalled selinux-policy-targeted, then relabeling,
>
On 06/14/2011 09:57 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 14.06.11 21:32, Lucas (macach...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>>
>> On 06/14/2011 06:53 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14.06.11 18:48, Lucas (macach...@gmail.com) wrote:
>>>
> Do you see any errors?
Just checked it. Yum rei
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