Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-11 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/11/2010 02:55 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > drago01 wrote: >> Well ABRT should stop filing bugs in bugzilla, it does not scale PERIOD. > > IMHO it should file bugs in the upstream bug tracker (even if that tracker > is not Bugzilla, so it'd have to learn as many different bug tracker APIs as > po

rawhide report: 20101211 changes

2010-12-11 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Dec 11 08:15:05 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_64 requires libmono.so.0()(64bit) beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_64 requires libmono.so.0(VER_1)(64bit) cpm-0.23-0.3.beta.fc1

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-11 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/11/2010 02:05 AM, Dave Jones wrote: > On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:51:39AM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > > > > The problem is entirely cosmetic. No data is harmed, the program exits > > > after that, it's just a child thread and the main process don't > > > communicate the exit qui

Re: Fedora default services (was: Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services)

2010-12-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Socket activation is not mandatory or even a benefit in all cases. Just > because we have a patch doesn't mean it is the right one. Upstream might > have the foresight and the knowledge to see problems with patches we might > not. There might be security implications. It

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-11 Thread Genes MailLists
On 12/11/2010 06:45 AM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > > If ABRT can tell that the backtrace is same as something previously > reported then there is no big harm, as it would only add the reporter to > CC and won't be generating much noise.. > The problem here is that some maintainers doesn't want ABR

Re: Fedora default services (was: Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services)

2010-12-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Socket activation is not mandatory or even a benefit in all cases. Just > > because we have a patch doesn't mean it is the right one. Upstream might > > have the foresight and the knowledge to see problems with pat

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-11 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/11/2010 03:55 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 12/11/2010 06:45 AM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > >> >> If ABRT can tell that the backtrace is same as something previously >> reported then there is no big harm, as it would only add the reporter to >> CC and won't be generating much noise.. >> The pr

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-11 Thread Genes MailLists
On 12/11/2010 02:15 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: will/not operate. >> > > ABRT already has a blacklist configurable in it's config file, but it's > controlled by ABRT maintainers... the problem or the request here is to > have a directory like /etc/abrt.d/ where other maintainers can drop a > con

Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-12-11 at 00:01 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Software just cannot grasp these things. Or do you volunteer for writing an > NLP processing system for Bodhi, and training all our testers to deal with > its limitations? Why can't we just let a human be the one to decide when to > hit t

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-11 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:45:10PM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > The problem here is that some maintainers doesn't want ABRT reports at > all even those not yet reported... It's arguable that such people are 'maintainers' at all if this is the case. I find it quite sad that we have packagers

Re: [Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines

2010-12-11 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)
09.12.2010 17:46, Tom Callaway wrote: Here are the latest set of changes to the Fedora Packaging Guidelines: --- --- Some clarification has been added to the sections dealing with bundled libraries, specifically that: In this RPM packaging context, the definition of the term 'library' includes:

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Dave Jones wrote: > On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:45:10PM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > > > The problem here is that some maintainers doesn't want ABRT reports at > > all even those not yet reported... > > It's arguable that such people are 'maintainers' at all if this is the > case. I find it

Review Swap: Natus

2010-12-11 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
Anyone have a review they would like to swap? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662349 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-11 Thread Dave Jones
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 02:11:27AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Dave Jones wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:45:10PM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > > > > > The problem here is that some maintainers doesn't want ABRT reports at > > > all even those not yet reported... > > > > It'