Review swaps

2010-11-17 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, I'm looking for someone to swap 2 reviews with, I would like to see the following reviewed: cortado - Java media framework: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=649781 CEGUI library 0.6 for apps which need this specific version: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=650643 Reg

Re: Review swaps

2010-11-17 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2010/11/17 Hans de Goede : > Hi, > > I'm looking for someone to swap 2 reviews with, I would like to see the > following reviewed: > > cortado - Java media framework: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=649781 I'll take this. -- With best regards, Peter Lemenkov. -- devel mailing li

Re: Adding patches in a SPEC

2010-11-17 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 17:17 -0500, Eric "Sparks" Christensen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/16/2010 04:28 PM, Martin Sourada wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 11:18 -0500, Eric "Sparks" Christensen wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:04, Patrick MONNERAT wrot

Re: sched_autogroup interactivity patch for the desktop

2010-11-17 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, 2010/11/16 Ilyes Gouta : > Hi, > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/11/16/1330233/The-200-Line-Linux-Kernel-Patch-That-Does-Wonders > patch: http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=128978361700898&w=2 > Can we have this patch back ported into the current kernel for Fedora 14 and > possibly posted a

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread nodata
On 17/11/10 08:57, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi all, > > For those who do not know it yet, recent Fedora glibc updates include > an optimized memcpy (which gets used on some processors) which breaks the > 64 bit adobe flash plugin. > > The problem has been analyzed and is known, as well as a fix for i

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread drago01
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:17 AM, nodata wrote: > On 17/11/10 08:57, Hans de Goede wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> For those who do not know it yet, recent Fedora glibc updates include >> an optimized memcpy (which gets used on some processors) which breaks the >> 64 bit adobe flash plugin. >> >> The prob

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-17 Thread Mat Booth
On 17 November 2010 05:29, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Ville Skyttä wrote: >> I'd get rid of the versioned javadoc dir altogether, and simply install to >> %{_javadocdir}/%{name}.  Unversioned is good for bookmarking and javadoc >> crosslinking. > > One thing you have to be careful of, no matter which w

Re: sched_autogroup interactivity patch for the desktop

2010-11-17 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Hi, I've been reading http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/11/16/402 and actually Lennart has put some solid thoughts and arguments there and IMHO it was *somehow* pretty convincing that this should be done at user-space, in conjunction with tools such as systemd, albeit introducing more complexity in form o

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 10:20:35 +0100, drago01 wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:17 AM, nodata wrote: >> On 17/11/10 08:57, Hans de Goede wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> For those who do not know it yet, recent Fedora glibc updates include >>> an optimized memcpy (which gets used on some processors) wh

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread nodata
On 17/11/10 10:20, drago01 wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:17 AM, nodata wrote: >> On 17/11/10 08:57, Hans de Goede wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> For those who do not know it yet, recent Fedora glibc updates include >>> an optimized memcpy (which gets used on some processors) which breaks the >>>

rawhide report: 20101117 changes

2010-11-17 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Wed Nov 17 08:15:16 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- balsa-2.4.7-2.fc14.x86_64 requires libnotify.so.1()(64bit) beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_64 requires libmono.so.0()(64bit) beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_6

Re: sched_autogroup interactivity patch for the desktop

2010-11-17 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 5:03 AM, Ilyes Gouta wrote: > Hi, > I've been reading http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/11/16/402 and actually Lennart > has put some solid thoughts and arguments there and IMHO it was *somehow* > pretty convincing that this should be done at user-space, in conjunction > with tools

Review swap

2010-11-17 Thread Jiri Popelka
Hi, I have two easy python modules to review. python-cups - Python bindings for the CUPS API, known as pycups https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=648986 python-smbc - Python bindings for the libsmbclient API from Samba, known as pysmbc https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=648987

Re: Adding patches in a SPEC

2010-11-17 Thread Eric "Sparks" Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/17/2010 03:57 AM, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 17:17 -0500, Eric "Sparks" Christensen wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 11/16/2010 04:28 PM, Martin Sourada wrote: >>> On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 11:18

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans (biosdevname)

2010-11-17 Thread Jon Masters
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 09:24 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 07:53:40AM -0600, Matt Domsch wrote: > > > > biosdevname installed by default, used in the installer and at runtime > > > > to rename Dell and HP server onboard NICs from non-deterministic > > > > "ethX" to clearly l

[Bug 654301] New: False-positive related to XS code - please update to 0.11 or later

2010-11-17 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: False-positive related to XS code - please update to 0.11 or later https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=654301 Summary: False-positive related to XS code

[Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines

2010-11-17 Thread Tom "spot" Callaway
Here are the list of recent changes to the Fedora Packaging Guidelines: D Packaging Guidelines have been added: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:D --- The Java Packaging Guidelines have been revised: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Java Diff: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.ph

[Bug 654301] False-positive related to XS code - please update to 0.11 or later

2010-11-17 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=654301 --- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System 2010-11-17 10:09:19 EST --- perl-Test-LeakTrace-0.13-1.fc13 has been submitted as an u

[Bug 654301] False-positive related to XS code - please update to 0.11 or later

2010-11-17 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=654301 --- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System 2010-11-17 10:09:12 EST --- perl-Test-LeakTrace-0.13-1.fc14 has been submitted as an u

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Magnus Glantz
On 11/17/2010 11:36 AM, nodata wrote: > On 17/11/10 10:20, drago01 wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:17 AM, nodata wrote: >>> On 17/11/10 08:57, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi all, For those who do not know it yet, recent Fedora glibc updates include an optimized memcpy (which get

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:57 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > > I would also like to point out that if this were to happen in Ubuntu > which we sometimes look at jealously for getting more attention / users > then us, the glibc change would likely be reverted immediately, as that > is the right thing to

[perl-Try-Tiny/f14/master] Update to 0.07

2010-11-17 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 505f548... Update to 0.07 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mail

[perl-Try-Tiny] Created tag perl-Try-Tiny-0.07-1.fc14

2010-11-17 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Try-Tiny-0.07-1.fc14' was created pointing to: 505f548... Update to 0.07 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel

[perl-Try-Tiny/f13/master] (6 commits) ...Merge branch 'master' into f13

2010-11-17 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: c1bbc6c... - update by Fedora::App::MaintainerTools 0.004 - PERL_INSTA (*) 34a9d28... - Mass rebuild with perl-5.12.0 (*) 2dc9161... dist-git conversion (*) 505f548... Update to 0.07 (*) 1750396... Merge branch 'master' (early part) into f13 c3ccc63... Merge branch

[perl-Try-Tiny/f13/master: 5/6] Merge branch 'master' (early part) into f13

2010-11-17 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 1750396595bf83880f0e69425b016dfe91d42c6e Merge: fbf7a39 2dc9161 Author: Paul Howarth Date: Wed Nov 17 15:31:35 2010 + Merge branch 'master' (early part) into f13 Conflicts: .gitignore perl-Try-Tiny.spec .gitignore |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertion

[perl-Try-Tiny/f13/master: 6/6] Merge branch 'master' into f13

2010-11-17 Thread Paul Howarth
commit c3ccc6364cdf0186d12511878274363961e271ea Merge: 1750396 505f548 Author: Paul Howarth Date: Wed Nov 17 15:32:59 2010 + Merge branch 'master' into f13 Conflicts: .gitignore perl-Try-Tiny.spec .gitignore |2 +- perl-Try-Tiny.spec | 26 +++

[perl-Try-Tiny] Created tag perl-Try-Tiny-0.07-1.fc13

2010-11-17 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Try-Tiny-0.07-1.fc13' was created pointing to: c3ccc63... Merge branch 'master' into f13 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listin

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/17/2010 03:17 PM, Magnus Glantz wrote: > On 11/17/2010 11:36 AM, nodata wrote: >> On 17/11/10 10:20, drago01 wrote: >>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:17 AM, nodata wrote: On 17/11/10 08:57, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi all, > > For those who do not know it yet, recent Fedora glib

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-17 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 09:45:35AM +, Mat Booth wrote: > On 17 November 2010 05:29, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Ville Skyttä wrote: > >> I'd get rid of the versioned javadoc dir altogether, and simply install to > >> %{_javadocdir}/%{name}.  Unversioned is good for bookmarking and javadoc > >> cro

work-around: the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread John Reiser
> For those who do not know it yet, recent Fedora glibc updates include > an optimized memcpy (which gets used on some processors) which breaks the > 64 bit adobe flash plugin. For right now (the immediate present) a work-around is to use the 'memmove' subroutine as the resolution of any reference

Re: work-around: the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, John Reiser said: > For right now (the immediate present) a work-around is to use the 'memmove' > subroutine as the resolution of any reference to the symbol 'memcpy'. > The quick-and-dirty way to do this It would probably be easier to use an LD_PRELOAD to load a wrapper to chan

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
Dont we have an upstream mantra to uphold... Forward all Fedora users and otherwize that experience this to Adobe.. If we are going hack around this on our side where are we going to draw the line.. Are we planning to start hacking around every ill written code out there? JBG -- devel mailing

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 16:32 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Dont we have an upstream mantra to uphold... > > Forward all Fedora users and otherwize that experience this to Adobe.. > > If we are going hack around this on our side where are we going to draw > the line.. > > Are we plannin

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/17/2010 04:46 PM, Matt McCutchen wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 16:32 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> Dont we have an upstream mantra to uphold... >> >> Forward all Fedora users and otherwize that experience this to Adobe.. >> >> If we are going hack around this on our side where are

Re: work-around: the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread drago01
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 5:03 PM, John Reiser wrote: >> For those who do not know it yet, recent Fedora glibc updates include >> an optimized memcpy (which gets used on some processors) which breaks the >> 64 bit adobe flash plugin. > > For right now (the immediate present) a work-around is to use

does fedora maven eclipse plugin work?

2010-11-17 Thread Marius Andreiana
Hi, Trying to clarify this here instead of bugzilla... After a yum -y install 'java-*-openjdk-devel' eclipse-anyedit eclipse-checkstyle eclipse-dtp eclipse-emf eclipse-jdt eclipse-mylyn eclipse-mylyn-java eclipse-platform eclipse-pydev eclipse-pydev-mylyn eclipse-subclipse eclipse-svnkit maven-ec

Re: NFS in rawhide

2010-11-17 Thread Peter Jones
> Quick question. I always had NFS starting on startup on a particular > rawhide box. Today it didn't, and I notice that /etc/rc2|3.d/S390nfs was > missing aswell. Did something remove these links and not replace them? This isn't really the list for help questions. -- Peter -- devel mai

Re: does fedora maven eclipse plugin work?

2010-11-17 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
On 11/17/2010 06:52 PM, Marius Andreiana wrote: > Hi, > > Trying to clarify this here instead of bugzilla... > > After a > yum -y install 'java-*-openjdk-devel' eclipse-anyedit eclipse-checkstyle > eclipse-dtp eclipse-emf eclipse-jdt eclipse-mylyn eclipse-mylyn-java > eclipse-platform eclipse-pyd

Re: does fedora maven eclipse plugin work?

2010-11-17 Thread Marius Andreiana
On Wed , Nov 17, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky < sochotni...@redhat.com> wrote: > On 11/17/2010 06:52 PM, Marius Andreiana wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Trying to clarify this here instead of bugzilla... > > > > After a > > yum -y install 'java-*-openjdk-devel' eclipse-anyedit eclipse-checkstyle

Re: NFS in rawhide

2010-11-17 Thread Jon Masters
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 13:12 -0500, Peter Jones wrote: > > Quick question. I always had NFS starting on startup on a particular > > rawhide box. Today it didn't, and I notice that /etc/rc2|3.d/S390nfs was > > missing aswell. Did something remove these links and not replace them? > > This isn't real

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Hans de Goede wrote: > The problem has been analyzed and is known, as well as a fix for it, see: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638477 This worked perfectly on my x86_64 system. I will try later on the i686 laptop. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin

Re: NFS in rawhide

2010-11-17 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 11/17/2010 02:02 PM, Jon Masters wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 13:12 -0500, Peter Jones wrote: >>> Quick question. I always had NFS starting on startup on a particular >>> rawhide box. Today it didn't, and I notice that /etc/rc2|3.d/S390nfs was >>> missing aswell. Did something remove these lin

Adobe fix on QA/QE: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Magnus Glantz
Hi guys, I just got an e-mail from Adobe that: 1) They have a fix 2) The fix has been send to QA/QE They say that they cannot commit to any dates, but that they are taking the issue seriously. I told them that if they want volunteers trying out their fix, we can help. Cheers, Magnus Glantz --

Re: does fedora maven eclipse plugin work?

2010-11-17 Thread Alexander Kurtakov
On 09:20:18 pm Wednesday, November 17, 2010 Marius Andreiana wrote: > On Wed , Nov 17, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky < > > sochotni...@redhat.com> wrote: > > On 11/17/2010 06:52 PM, Marius Andreiana wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Trying to clarify this here instead of bugzilla... > > > > >

Re: NFS in rawhide

2010-11-17 Thread Jon Masters
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 14:14 -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote: > On 11/17/2010 02:02 PM, Jon Masters wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 13:12 -0500, Peter Jones wrote: > >>> Quick question. I always had NFS starting on startup on a particular > >>> rawhide box. Today it didn't, and I notice that /etc/rc2|3.d/

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 08:57:20 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi all, > > For those who do not know it yet, recent Fedora glibc updates include > an optimized memcpy (which gets used on some processors) which breaks the > 64 bit adobe flash plugin. I saw memcpy / memmove issues affecting squa

Re: Review swap

2010-11-17 Thread Jiri Popelka
Both taken (thanks Jussi). Jiri On 11/17/2010 01:02 PM, Jiri Popelka wrote: > Hi, > > I have two easy python modules to review. > > python-cups - Python bindings for the CUPS API, known as pycups > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=648986 > > python-smbc - Python bindings for the libsmb

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

2010-11-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-11-17) === Meeting started by nirik at 18:30:00 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-11-17/fesco.2010-11-17-18.30.log.html Meeting summary -

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 08:57:20 +0100, >  Hans de Goede wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> For those who do not know it yet, recent Fedora glibc updates include >> an optimized memcpy (which gets used on some processors) which breaks the >> 64 bit a

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

2010-11-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 08:13 +0100 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > * F12 critical path/update testing issues. (does it matter this > > close to EOL?) > > Now Fedora n-1 is F13 and we're already seeing the same sort of > issues there (e.g. the KDE 4.5.3 (non-critpath) bugfix update has

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Jon Masters
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 08:57 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > This solution could be reverting the problem causing glibc change, or > maybe changing it to do forward memcpy's while still using the new SSE > instructions, or something more specific to the flash plugin, as long > as it will automaticall

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Magnus Glantz
On 11/17/2010 09:09 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 08:57:20 +0100, >> Hans de Goede wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> For those who do not know it yet, recent Fedora glibc updates include >>> an optimized memcpy (which gets us

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jon Masters wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 08:57 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > >> This solution could be reverting the problem causing glibc change, or >> maybe changing it to do forward memcpy's while still using the new SSE >> instructions, or something more spec

Re: NFS in rawhide

2010-11-17 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 11/17/2010 02:26 PM, Jon Masters wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 14:14 -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote: >> > > Yes, thanks Ric, your reply to me was most helpful. > > Jon. What was the reply? TIA Regards, OldFart -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mai

Re: [Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines

2010-11-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 09:23:49 -0500, "Tom \"spot\" Callaway" wrote: > Here are the list of recent changes to the Fedora Packaging Guidelines: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Java > Diff: > https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Packaging%3AJava&diff=206526&oldid=154023 Sho

RE: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Ugis Fedora
> From: jonat...@jonmasters.org > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:16:20 -0500 > Subject: Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility > CC: fedora-devel-l...@redhat.com > > On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 08:57 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > > > This solution could be re

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Magnus Glantz [17/11/2010 21:33] : > > I really can't see why it would be a bad thing Fedora would do QA on a > proprietary software that is very important for a majority of the Fedora > users. 1) Time spent doing QA on proprietary software is time that will not be spent doing QA on free so

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Magnus Glantz
On 11/17/2010 09:30 PM, Ugis Fedora wrote: > From: jonat...@jonmasters.org > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:16:20 -0500 > Subject: Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility > CC: fedora-devel-l...@redhat.com > > On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 08:57 +0100, Hans de Go

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Magnus Glantz wrote: > For me it's natural that we should care about the end-user experience of > Fedora, even if that does include us caring about application outside of the > Fedora owned repositories. Just a thought - but for those users who use chrome/chromiu

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread François Cami
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Magnus Glantz wrote: > On 11/17/2010 09:09 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Bruno Wolff III  wrote: >>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 08:57:20 +0100, >>>   Hans de Goede  wrote: For those who do not know it yet, recent Fedora glibc upda

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 21:46:09 +0100, François Cami wrote: > > IIRC broken proprietary drivers never stopped us from shipping, but I > could be wrong. Officially. Unofficially, it was probably a contributing factor. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedorapro

Re: [Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines

2010-11-17 Thread Alexander Kurtakov
On 10:51:26 pm Wednesday, November 17, 2010 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 09:23:49 -0500, > > "Tom \"spot\" Callaway" wrote: > > Here are the list of recent changes to the Fedora Packaging Guidelines: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Java > > Diff: > > https:

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Magnus Glantz
On 11/17/2010 09:46 PM, François Cami wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Magnus Glantz wrote: >> On 11/17/2010 09:09 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Bruno Wolff IIIwrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 08:57:20 +0100, Hans de Goedewrote: > For th

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/17/2010 08:58 PM, Magnus Glantz wrote: > But.. if we notice that it's broken, we can: > 1) Notify Adobe about it, so they -can- provide a fix. If they do not > know, they can't fix it.. The Adobe developers I e-mailed with did say > that they took the issue seriously, they want it to work on

[Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines

2010-11-17 Thread Tom "spot" Callaway
Here are the list of this week's changes to the Fedora Packaging Guidelines: The FPC has taken over evaluating exceptions to the Bundled Library Guidelines. A list of standard questions to be answered to give the FPC information on whether to grant exceptions has been added to the Guidelines: ht

Re: does fedora maven eclipse plugin work?

2010-11-17 Thread Marius Andreiana
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Alexander Kurtakov wrote: > Are you interested in helping us getting m2eclipse packaged and available > on > Fedora? If yes please join #fedora-java on freenode.net or say so on this mailing > list > and I'll help as much as possible for this to become a reality.

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Michael Cronenworth
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > 3. Spend that time working on open alternative and get rid of flash for > good Write a cross-platform IDE for HTML5-based technologies. Of course it would also require a fast Javascript JIT engine, which has been frowned upon[1], so I don't know if there is a

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Benjamin Kreuter
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 15:21:55 Magnus Glantz wrote: > On 11/17/2010 09:09 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 08:57:20 +0100, > >> > >> Hans de Goede wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> For those who do not know i

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Well it would be mightily nice to have an infrastructure that can handle > keyboard extended keys (almost every new keyboard sold in the last > decade has one or more of those) without barfing because the original > x11 protocol designers thought 8 bits would be enough for

how to debug sound not working on macbook?

2010-11-17 Thread Marius Andreiana
Does anybody have suggestions how an end user could debug this? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=580703 Thanks! -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Magnus Glantz
On 11/17/2010 10:02 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 11/17/2010 08:58 PM, Magnus Glantz wrote: >> But.. if we notice that it's broken, we can: >> 1) Notify Adobe about it, so they -can- provide a fix. If they do not >> know, they can't fix it.. The Adobe developers I e-mailed with did say >>

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread John Reiser
On 11/17/2010 12:41 PM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > 2) Issues found in proprietary software cannot be fixed by anybody except >the vendor False. In this particular case, it is possible to binary edit the plugin libflashplayer.so so that all its calls to memcpy become calls to memmove. The change

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Benjamin Kreuter
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 15:58:28 Magnus Glantz wrote: > I'm not saying that a broken Adobe Flash would stop Fedora from shipping. > > But.. if we notice that it's broken, we can: > 1) Notify Adobe about it, so they -can- provide a fix. If they do not > know, they can't fix it.. The Adobe dev

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Jon Masters wrote: > Did anyone upstream look into a compatibility environment variable that > could be exported to change the direction of the memcpy? Yes, it's a > hack, but it would allow affected users to have an option. Could we make use of that sort of envir

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-17 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:08:10PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Well it would be mightily nice to have an infrastructure that can handle > > keyboard extended keys (almost every new keyboard sold in the last > > decade has one or more of those) without barfing because the

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 02:41:15PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 21:46:09 +0100, > François Cami wrote: > > > > IIRC broken proprietary drivers never stopped us from shipping, but I > > could be wrong. > > Officially. Unofficially, it was probably a contributing facto

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Peter Jones
On 11/17/2010 03:41 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 21:46:09 +0100, >François Cami wrote: >> >> IIRC broken proprietary drivers never stopped us from shipping, but I >> could be wrong. > > Officially. Unofficially, it was probably a contributing factor. No, I don't think

File Net-SNMP-v6.0.1.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by spot

2010-11-17 Thread Tom Callaway
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Net-SNMP: 6137f04f9942d703f66179f890e3d096 Net-SNMP-v6.0.1.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/l

[perl-Net-SNMP] update to 6.0.1, which removed all occurrences of the "locked" attribute, deprecated in perl 5.12.0

2010-11-17 Thread Tom Callaway
commit 493a74751626dab9e00fc77476b015b5c7b0220e Author: Tom "spot" Callaway Date: Wed Nov 17 16:36:18 2010 -0500 update to 6.0.1, which removed all occurrences of the "locked" attribute, deprecated in perl 5.12.0 .gitignore |1 + perl-Net-SNMP.spec | 22 ++--

[perl-Net-SNMP/f14/master] update to 6.0.1, which removed all occurrences of the "locked" attribute, deprecated in perl 5.12.0

2010-11-17 Thread Tom Callaway
commit 78e76d0737f2985f6c00420034e2e1d2483a7f0a Author: Tom "spot" Callaway Date: Wed Nov 17 16:36:40 2010 -0500 update to 6.0.1, which removed all occurrences of the "locked" attribute, deprecated in perl 5.12.0 perl-Net-SNMP.spec | 22 ++ sources|2

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Magnus Glantz
On 11/17/2010 10:18 PM, Benjamin Kreuter wrote: >> 2) Create a work-around for the end-users (as has been done by several >> people in the BZ #638477-thread) > This pretty much erases whatever incentive Adobe might have to actually fix > the bug. Instead of fixing their code, now what they can do

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Tom "spot" Callaway
On 11/17/2010 03:45 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > Just a thought - but for those users who use chrome/chromium as prime > browser where flash is part of the deal Flash is only bundled in Google's Chrome builds, not in the FOSS Chromium code. ~spot -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[Bug 652158] Use of :locked is deprecated

2010-11-17 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=652158 --- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System 2010-11-17 16:46:58 EST --- perl-Net-SNMP-6.0.1-1.fc14 has been submitted as an update

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 16:33:59 -0500, Peter Jones wrote: > On 11/17/2010 03:41 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 21:46:09 +0100, > >François Cami wrote: > >> > >> IIRC broken proprietary drivers never stopped us from shipping, but I > >> could be wrong. > > > > Offic

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

2010-11-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > So, there are no folks in the KDE sig using F13 anymore? > > Perhaps call for testers in the users / kde lists? I think this issue goes far, far beyond just KDE. There are packages which have few users even for Fedora n, let alone n-1. Yet another example of the update proc

Re: how to debug sound not working on macbook?

2010-11-17 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/17/2010 09:09 PM, Marius Andreiana wrote: > Does anybody have suggestions how an end user could debug this? > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=580703 Had you tried this already [1] JBG 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_sound_problems -- devel mailing list devel@list

Re: how to debug sound not working on macbook?

2010-11-17 Thread fkoo...@tuxed.net
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Marius Andreiana wrote: > Does anybody have suggestions how an end user could debug this? > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=580703 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=590907 Regards, François -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Genes MailLists
Lets also not forget that the motivation for changing memcpy was to get some speedup - has anyone seen evidence of any significant benefit of that glibc change? The BZ ref'd in this thread has linus' (simple) tests which dont confirm any benefit of the change compared to his simpler version (

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread nodata
On 17/11/10 22:16, John Reiser wrote: > On 11/17/2010 12:41 PM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: >> 2) Issues found in proprietary software cannot be fixed by anybody except >> the vendor > > False. In this particular case, it is possible to binary edit the plugin > libflashplayer.so so that all its cal

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* John Reiser [17/11/2010 22:30] : > > On 11/17/2010 12:41 PM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > > > 2) Issues found in proprietary software cannot be fixed by anybody except > >the vendor > > False. In this particular case, FWIW, I was refering to the general case. >

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > >  Lets also not forget that the motivation for changing memcpy was to > get some speedup - has anyone seen evidence of any significant benefit > of that glibc change? > >  The BZ ref'd in this thread has linus' (simple) tests which dont >

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Peter Jones
On 11/17/2010 05:11 PM, nodata wrote: > On 17/11/10 22:16, John Reiser wrote: >> On 11/17/2010 12:41 PM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: >>> 2) Issues found in proprietary software cannot be fixed by anybody except >>> the vendor >> >> False. In this particular case, it is possible to binary edit the

Re: how to debug sound not working on macbook?

2010-11-17 Thread Marius Andreiana
2010/11/18 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" > On 11/17/2010 09:09 PM, Marius Andreiana wrote: > > Does anybody have suggestions how an end user could debug this? > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=580703 > > Had you tried this already [1] > > JBG > > 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_de

Re: Adding patches in a SPEC

2010-11-17 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 07:39 -0500, Eric "Sparks" Christensen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/17/2010 03:57 AM, Martin Sourada wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 17:17 -0500, Eric "Sparks" Christensen wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 >

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-17 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Wednesday 17 November 2010, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Ville Skyttä wrote: > > I'd get rid of the versioned javadoc dir altogether, and simply install > > to %{_javadocdir}/%{name}. Unversioned is good for bookmarking and > > javadoc crosslinking. > > One thing you have to be careful of, no matter

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Genes MailLists
On 11/17/2010 05:20 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > The original testing that went with the GLIBC patches also showed no > speedup on the hardware Linus uses, but it did show an impressive > (perhaps too impressive) speedup on other hardware: > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.glibc.alpha/1

Re: Updates to static library packages

2010-11-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > I maintain LibRaw, which is only a static library -- upstream has > rejected the idea of maintaining dynamic libs since they would have to > take care of ABI compatibility across releases. > > I wanted to know if there are any other only-static libraries out > there and

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 15:42 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 16:33:59 -0500, Peter Jones wrote: > > On 11/17/2010 03:41 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 21:46:09 +0100, François > > > Cami wrote: > > >> IIRC broken proprietary drivers never stopped

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Gregory Maxwell said: > But is it only me who worries that lots of people are running code > exposed to the internet that has obviously never even been run under > valgrind? Yeah, people are acting like Adobe Flash is the only program in the world to make this (unfortunately qui

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-17 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Peter Jones [17/11/2010 23:31] : > > To be fair, we're not packaging flash in Fedora anyway. >From the post that started this thread: "This solution could be reverting the problem causing glibc change, or maybe changing it to do forward memcpy's while still using the new SSE instructions,

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