Re: Passing ownership of mingetty

2010-11-11 Thread Petr Pisar
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 09:33:26PM -0500, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > I ended up being the owner of mingetty by chance, because I used to > maintain it in the OLPC collection and the previous maintainer released > the package. > > Since you're clearly working on it, I think it would make sense to pa

Re: SWI Prolog is gone from F13 and F14

2010-11-11 Thread Petr Pisar
Acctually gemi still owns the package. He's on turn now. -- Petr -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

rawhide report: 20101111 changes

2010-11-11 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu Nov 11 08:15:03 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- apcupsd-3.14.8-3.fc15.x86_64 requires libnetsnmp.so.20()(64bit) balsa-2.4.7-2.fc14.x86_64 requires libnotify.so.1()(64bit) beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.

RPM: signing uncompressed data instead of signed data?

2010-11-11 Thread Andre Robatino
I came across the following old post, which I'm not responding to in-thread due to its age. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-September/msg00517.html The question was raised why RPMs sign their compressed data, rather than uncompressed. (One advantage would be to avoid deltar

Orphaning gedit-vala

2010-11-11 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Hi all, I'm orphaning gedit-vala (upstream name: vtg); a plugin for doing Vala development in gedit. It's in good shape on F-14, waiting for upstream fixes for Rawhide (since we're shipping gedit 2.9x.y there) and there are some problems on F-12 and F-13 that would need the Vala stack to be up

Re: RPM: signing uncompressed data instead of signed data?

2010-11-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:41:13 +, Andre Robatino wrote: > > The question was raised why RPMs sign their compressed data, rather than > uncompressed. (One advantage would be to avoid deltarpm rebuild failures due > to > changes in compression such as the recent one in xz.) The answer had

Re: Why does my mail client/web browser not appear in GNOME?

2010-11-11 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 12:14 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 19:21 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > Or why is my dingus click not working? > > > > Your web browsers and mail clients need to handle > > "x-scheme-handler/http"[1] and "x-scheme-handler/mailto" respectively to > >

RPM: signing uncompressed data instead of signed data?

2010-11-11 Thread Andre Robatino
Bruno Wolff III wrote: > Uncompressing hostile data is generally not a good thing to be doing. > From that aspect it makes more sense to sign the compressed payload. I was thinking that since the signature check usually passes, the data could be uncompressed into a cache, checked there, then copi

Re: RPM: signing uncompressed data instead of signed data?

2010-11-11 Thread James Antill
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 10:41 +, Andre Robatino wrote: > I came across the following old post, which I'm not responding to in-thread > due > to its age. > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-September/msg00517.html > > The question was raised why RPMs sign their compressed

Re: RPM: signing uncompressed data instead of signed data?

2010-11-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 09:29:54 -0500, Andre Robatino wrote: > Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > Uncompressing hostile data is generally not a good thing to be doing. > > From that aspect it makes more sense to sign the compressed payload. > > I was thinking that since the signature check usually

RPM: signing uncompressed data instead of signed data?

2010-11-11 Thread Andre Robatino
James Antill wrote: > IMO, as has been said before, if you have a delta method that doesn't > produce the exact same bits at the end ... you've probably failed. It > might seem like a good idea, but even if you go to the extreme lengths > needed to make it just for yum ... things like reposync won

Re: RPM: signing uncompressed data instead of signed data?

2010-11-11 Thread Michael Schroeder
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:17:57AM -0500, Andre Robatino wrote: > I realize there's a lot of stuff sitting on top of RPM that depends on > how it works currently, but in terms of correctness, it still seems to > me to make more sense to sign the uncompressed data, since that's what > actually gets

Re: RPM: signing uncompressed data instead of signed data?

2010-11-11 Thread John Reiser
On 11/11/2010 07:17 AM, Andre Robatino wrote: > in an alternate universe where RPM was originally > designed to sign the uncompressed data, and the higher-level tools were > subsequently designed to work with that, is there any fundamental reason > why things would be worse (or better) than they ar

Re: SWI Prolog is gone from F13 and F14

2010-11-11 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 18:14:42 +, Joel wrote: > Is anyone interested in resurrecting SWI Prolog? I just noticed that it > was dropped from F13 and F14. > > The version in F12 was 5.7.11, the current version is 5.10.2 according > to: http://www.swi-prolog.org/ > > The previous packager was Ger

Re: RPM: signing uncompressed data instead of signed data?

2010-11-11 Thread James Antill
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 10:17 -0500, Andre Robatino wrote: > James Antill wrote: > > > IMO, as has been said before, if you have a delta method that doesn't > > produce the exact same bits at the end ... you've probably failed. It > > might seem like a good idea, but even if you go to the extreme le

Re: Non-responsive maintainer - Chris Ricker

2010-11-11 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:54 AM, Jaroslav Skarvada wrote: > Hi, > > I was unsuccessful in all attempts to contact Chris Ricker (kaboom AT > oobleck.net). He seems non-responsive for a long time, I did not receive any > reply from him at least from February. > > Tracker bug: > http://bugzilla.redha

Re: Orphaning gedit-vala

2010-11-11 Thread Patrick Dignan
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:19 AM, Michel Alexandre Salim < sali...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm orphaning gedit-vala (upstream name: vtg); a plugin for doing Vala > development in gedit. It's in good shape on F-14, waiting for upstream > fixes for Rawhide (since we're shipping gedit

Re: Passing ownership of mingetty

2010-11-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 10.11.10 21:33, Bernie Innocenti (ber...@codewiz.org) wrote: > Hello Petr, > > I ended up being the owner of mingetty by chance, because I used to > maintain it in the OLPC collection and the previous maintainer released > the package. Do we really want to keep mingetty around? We discu

still a 2TB limit in F14 Anaconda, for LVM PV size

2010-11-11 Thread Eric Smith
I just tried to install F14 on a new server with a 7.6 TB RAID (five Hitachi 2 TB drives on a 3ware 9750). I was pleased to see that the disk partitioning interface in Anaconda recognized the array and didn't have a problem with the size, reporting it as 7629352 MB. Unfortunately it won't let

Re: Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-11 Thread Roman Rakus
On 11/08/2010 03:12 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > Here is the attack: Your system is running with nice secure encrypted > drives, no console access (or a locked screen on a laptop). The > attacker inserts a bootable USB key and hits the power switch. System > reboots into the USB key, it retrieve

Re: Passing ownership of mingetty

2010-11-11 Thread Casey Dahlin
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:53:47PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 10.11.10 21:33, Bernie Innocenti (ber...@codewiz.org) wrote: > > > Hello Petr, > > > > I ended up being the owner of mingetty by chance, because I used to > > maintain it in the OLPC collection and the previous maintain

Re: still a 2TB limit in F14 Anaconda, for LVM PV size

2010-11-11 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:54:54AM -0800, Eric Smith wrote: > I just tried to install F14 on a new server with a 7.6 TB RAID (five > Hitachi 2 TB drives on a 3ware 9750). I was pleased to see that the > disk partitioning interface in Anaconda recognized the array and didn't > have a problem wit

Re: still a 2TB limit in F14 Anaconda, for LVM PV size

2010-11-11 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Eric Smith wrote: > Is there any good reason to have this limit, or should I report it as a > bug against Anaconda (or some other component)? > Must be a new thing. I installed Fedora 11 on a server with an 8TB raid and it created a PV >2TB on its own. # pvscan PV /dev/sda2 VG VolGroup00

Re: SWI Prolog is gone from F13 and F14

2010-11-11 Thread Paul Howarth
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:34:29 + (UTC) Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 18:14:42 +, Joel wrote: > > > Is anyone interested in resurrecting SWI Prolog? I just noticed > > that it was dropped from F13 and F14. > > > > The version in F12 was 5.7.11, the current version is

Re: Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-11 Thread Vaclav Mocek
I am not a kernel developer, but I do think it would be a step forward simply to erase a [substantial|critical] part of the physical memory before the system enters stages S4 or S5. An option in ACPI driver, implemented somewhere in acpi_os_stall() ?, I really don't know. Vaclav M. -- devel m

Re: Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-11 Thread Vaclav Mocek
On 11/11/2010 07:55 PM, Roman Rakus wrote: >On 11/08/2010 03:12 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > >> Here is the attack: Your system is running with nice secure encrypted >> drives, no console access (or a locked screen on a laptop). The >> attacker inserts a bootable USB key and hits the power

Re: Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-11 Thread Vaclav Mocek
On 11/08/2010 10:18 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: > So, after quick reading, this is not what I expected. This is just > another kernel block cypher used by dmcrypt to (de)crypt block device > data guartneeing encryption key does no leave CPU by storing the key in > SSE register. The drawback is nobody can

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-11 Thread Ding Yi Chen
- "Nicolas Mailhot" wrote: > Le samedi 06 novembre 2010 à 10:57 +, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : > > > Is Fedora for developers or what? > > > > We want to ditch extremely useful, ground-breaking features because > of > > "tearing" when scrolling in a browser window? > > Well it would b

Re: Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-11 Thread John Reiser
> It would be usefull to overwrite some parts of memory (keys etc.), > before the computer is switched off. So, my question is: Is there > already implemented and used some kind of protection? Boot "Memory test" from install media (DVD, LiveCD, LiveUSB, etc.) and let it run for a minute. Or, in

Re: Why does my mail client/web browser not appear in GNOME?

2010-11-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 14:21 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > on the topic of the new control-center, any chance of making it work at > > all any time soon? :) > > > > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=651510 > > 2.91.2 was built 2 days ago. Though it might not be installable because > w

Re: still a 2TB limit in F14 Anaconda, for LVM PV size

2010-11-11 Thread Zoltan Boszormenyi
Hi, 2010-11-11 20:54 keltezéssel, Eric Smith írta: > I just tried to install F14 on a new server with a 7.6 TB RAID (five > Hitachi 2 TB drives on a 3ware 9750). I was pleased to see that the > disk partitioning interface in Anaconda recognized the array and didn't > have a problem with the si