Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-03 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
On 11/02/2010 05:11 PM, Ville Skyttä wrote: > On Tuesday 02 November 2010, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: >> Java SIG has prepared changes in current Java packaging guidelines. We >> would welcome wider discussion/comments at this point. From our point of >> view guidelines seem ready for approval by

rawhide report: 20101103 changes

2010-11-03 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Wed Nov 3 08:15:18 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 1:anjuta-2.31.90.0-3.fc15.i686 requires libvala-0.10.so.0 1:anjuta-2.31.90.0-3.fc15.x86_64 requires libvala-0.10.so.0()(64bit) apcupsd-3.14.8-3.

Java SIG meeting minutes (November 3rd)

2010-11-03 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
People present: * orionp * cspike * hannes * sochotni * mbooth * ggraz * tibbs Overview: * Maven 3 status * Maven 3 vanilla package review: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=648945 * Custom resolver based on resolver for m2 * http://sochotni.fedorapeople.org/0003-

Re: coming libnotify bump

2010-11-03 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 21:12 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > I am planning to push libnotify 0.7.0 into rawhide by the end of this > week; this is going to be a little painful, since there are some api > changes that will require minor adjustment of all users. And there's > quite a few of them (see

No koji repo for F14 yet?

2010-11-03 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/static-repos/ is missing dist-f14-build-current ... Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones libguestfs lets you edit virtual machines. Supports shell scripting, bindings from many languages. http://et.redhat.com/~rj

[perl-Try-Tiny] Created tag perl-Try-Tiny-0.07-1.el5

2010-11-03 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Try-Tiny-0.07-1.el5' was created pointing to: 505f548... Update to 0.07 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel

[Bug 649372] New: Dependency on perl-libwww-perl missing

2010-11-03 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: Dependency on perl-libwww-perl missing https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=649372 Summary: Dependency on perl-libwww-perl missing Product: Fe

[perl-Try-Tiny] Created tag perl-Try-Tiny-0.07-1.el4

2010-11-03 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Try-Tiny-0.07-1.el4' was created pointing to: 505f548... Update to 0.07 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel

Re: Directory unowned.

2010-11-03 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 14:45:48 +0300, Dmitrij S. Kryzhevich wrote: > Hi! > %{_libdir}/girepositry-1.0/ is not owned by any package. It is used, > i.e., in DeviceKit-power-devel. Dmitrij. On F-14 it's owned by multiple packages: $ rpm -qf /usr/lib64/girepository-1.0/ atk-1.32.0-1.fc14.x86_64 gdk-pi

[Bug 584929] Column sort in html gui doesn't work properly

2010-11-03 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584929 --- Comment #3 from Bug Zapper 2010-11-03 12:33:25 EDT --- This message is a reminder that Fedora 12 is nearing its end of lif

Re: No koji repo for F14 yet?

2010-11-03 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/03/2010 09:21 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/static-repos/ > > is missing dist-f14-build-current ... > > Rich. > This path is deprecated. http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/repos/dist-f14-build/latest/ Koji

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-03 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Wednesday 03 November 2010, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: > FYI the versionless jar/javadocs files are now in the draft (thanks for > the suggestion, somehow none of us thought of that) Thanks for considering it. > But keep those comments coming, we'll try to keep working on the > guidelines to

[Bug 649418] New: perl-Lingua-EN-Tagger-debuginfo is empty

2010-11-03 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-Lingua-EN-Tagger-debuginfo is empty https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=649418 Summary: perl-Lingua-EN-Tagger-debuginfo is empty Product

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-03)

2010-11-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 17:45:16 -0400 Adam Jackson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 14:30 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo > > meeting tomorrow at 18:30UTC (2:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on > > irc.freenode.net. > > > > NOTE: Matthew G

Compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer on x86_64?

2010-11-03 Thread Owen Taylor
Lack of decent profiling is a major problem for making our operating system fast. By far the most effective of profiling is sampling profile with callgraph information. Soeren's comment from March: http://lwn.net/Articles/380582/ Basically summarizes the situation, and as far as I know nothing

Re: Compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer on x86_64?

2010-11-03 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 02:48:12PM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > Lack of decent profiling is a major problem for making our operating > system fast. By far the most effective of profiling is sampling profile > with callgraph information. > > Soeren's comment from March: > > http://lwn.net/Articles

[389-devel] Please review: [Bug 567282] server can not abandon searchRequest of "simple paged results"

2010-11-03 Thread Noriko Hosoi
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=567282 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=457550&action=edit https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=457550&action=diff Description: Simple Paged Results search keeps the connection per paging, but not an operation. When an abandon r

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 19:27 +0200, Ville Skyttä a écrit : > 3) In my opinion, the whole alternatives setup in the JRE and SDK packages > should be purged. It's a relic from times that are long gone, Having a semi-sane way to install multi-vendor multi-version JVMs is still needed EPEL

Re: Compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer on x86_64?

2010-11-03 Thread Owen Taylor
On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 19:58 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 02:48:12PM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > > Lack of decent profiling is a major problem for making our operating > > system fast. By far the most effective of profiling is sampling profile > > with callgraph information.

Re: Compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer on x86_64?

2010-11-03 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 03:20:59PM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 19:58 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 02:48:12PM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > > Instead of this, which really is a big performance penalty. > > Do you have a sense of the quantification of

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-03 Thread Alexander Kurtakov
> On Wednesday 03 November 2010, Ville Skyttä wrote: > > On Wednesday 03 November 2010, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: > > FYI the versionless jar/javadocs files are now in the draft (thanks for > > the suggestion, somehow none of us thought of that) > > Thanks for considering it. > > > But keep t

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-03 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Wednesday 03 November 2010, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 19:27 +0200, Ville Skyttä a écrit : > > 3) In my opinion, the whole alternatives setup in the JRE and SDK > > packages should be purged. It's a relic from times that are long gone, > > Having a semi-sane way to

[Bug 574195] AMAVISD_DB_HOME in amavisd-agent has wrong default

2010-11-03 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=574195 --- Comment #1 from Bug Zapper 2010-11-03 15:28:44 EDT --- This message is a reminder that Fedora 12 is nearing its end of lif

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 21:32 +0200, Ville Skyttä a écrit : > On Wednesday 03 November 2010, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 19:27 +0200, Ville Skyttä a écrit : > > > 3) In my opinion, the whole alternatives setup in the JRE and SDK > > > packages should be purged.

Re: Compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer on x86_64?

2010-11-03 Thread John Reiser
On 11/03/2010 11:48 AM, Owen Taylor wrote: > Lack of decent profiling is a major problem for making our operating > system fast. By far the most effective of profiling is sampling profile > with callgraph information. I am the author of tsprof, http://bitwagon.com/tsprof/tsprof.html . Eight years

Re: Compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer on x86_64?

2010-11-03 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 19:58 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 02:48:12PM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > > Basically summarizes the situation, and as far as I know nothing has > > changed ... with default compilation options, getting callgraph > > profiling on x86_64 really requires

Re: Compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer on x86_64?

2010-11-03 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 04:10:30PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 19:58 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 02:48:12PM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > > > Basically summarizes the situation, and as far as I know nothing has > > > changed ... with default compilat

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-03 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Wednesday 03 November 2010, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 21:32 +0200, Ville Skyttä a écrit : > > On Wednesday 03 November 2010, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 19:27 +0200, Ville Skyttä a écrit : > > > > 3) In my opinion, the whole alternati

[Bug 574195] AMAVISD_DB_HOME in amavisd-agent has wrong default

2010-11-03 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=574195 Sandro Janke changed: What|Removed |Added --

bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-03 Thread Bert Desmet
hi! This is something I got in my mail box today. As I don't have a valid answer for this, maybe someone else can answer for me? cheers, Bert the url of the blog of the guy: http://www.krisbuytaert.be/blog/ == the mail == Dear Fedoracommunity, Over the course of the day I recieved 22^3 mails

Re: Compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer on x86_64?

2010-11-03 Thread Owen Taylor
On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 21:11 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 04:10:30PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 19:58 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 02:48:12PM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > > > > Basically summarizes the situation, and as f

Re: Compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer on x86_64?

2010-11-03 Thread Owen Taylor
On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 20:29 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > It seems like if it was that easy, it would have happened and we'd have > > a solution in the upstream kernel... > > I think we had one in the upstream kernel for some time, then Linus just > didn't like to see it needing too many bugfix

Re: Compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer on x86_64?

2010-11-03 Thread John Reiser
On 11/03/2010 01:51 PM, Owen Taylor wrote: > [ But yes, 4% is a big hit. 1% I would accept without hesitation. > 4% does make me hesitate a little bit. During devel cycles, we > accept much more slowdown than that for the debug kernel, > of course. If we can figure out profiling without fram

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 22:28 +0200, Ville Skyttä a écrit : > On Wednesday 03 November 2010, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 21:32 +0200, Ville Skyttä a écrit : > > > On Wednesday 03 November 2010, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > > Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 19:27

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-03 Thread Alexander Kurtakov
> Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 22:28 +0200, Ville Skyttä a écrit : > > On Wednesday 03 November 2010, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 21:32 +0200, Ville Skyttä a écrit : > > > > On Wednesday 03 November 2010, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > > > Le mercredi 03 novembre 201

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-03 Thread Jesse Keating
On 11/3/10 2:14 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > And it's unreasonable to expect those ISVs to change when Fedora has not > managed to package a working JBoss. If the Red Hat Java packaging can > not even be used with the top Red Hat Java product, what is there to > say? (and on this subject, I don't t

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-03 Thread Alexander Kurtakov
> On 11/3/10 2:14 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > And it's unreasonable to expect those ISVs to change when Fedora has not > > managed to package a working JBoss. If the Red Hat Java packaging can > > not even be used with the top Red Hat Java product, what is there to > > say? (and on this subject,

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 14:35 -0700, Jesse Keating a écrit : > On 11/3/10 2:14 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > And it's unreasonable to expect those ISVs to change when Fedora has not > > managed to package a working JBoss. If the Red Hat Java packaging can > > not even be used with the top R

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 23:54 +0200, Alexander Kurtakov a écrit : > > On 11/3/10 2:14 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > And it's unreasonable to expect those ISVs to change when Fedora has not > > > managed to package a working JBoss. If the Red Hat Java packaging can > > > not even be used w

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-03 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Bert Desmet wrote: > hi! > > This is something I got in my mail box today. > As I don't have a valid answer for this, maybe someone else can answer for me? > > cheers, Bert > > the url of the blog of the guy: http://www.krisbuytaert.be/blog/ > > == the mail == > > De

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 21:02 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > Maybe it is time to discuss the usefulness of ABRT to Fedora. I think > that it is a great idea for commercial products such as RHEL, but it > obviously did not fit Fedora as is. I disagree. I have seen many bugs fixed with the aid of abrt

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-03 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 21:02 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > >> Maybe it is time to discuss the usefulness of ABRT to Fedora. I think >> that it is a great idea for commercial products such as RHEL, but it >> obviously did not fit Fedora as is.

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 22:12 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 21:02 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > > > >> Maybe it is time to discuss the usefulness of ABRT to Fedora. I think > >> that it is a great idea for commercial pro

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-03 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 22:12 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> > On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 21:02 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: >> > >> >> Maybe it is time to discuss the usefulness of ABRT to F

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-03 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 22:12 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: >>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> > On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 21:02 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: >>> > >

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/04/2010 03:59 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 22:12 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 21:02 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: >>> Maybe it is time to discuss the usefulness of ABRT to Fedora. I thi

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-03 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 11/3/2010 7:02 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > Maybe it is time to discuss the usefulness of ABRT to Fedora. I think > that it is a great idea for commercial products such as RHEL, but it > obviously did not fit Fedora as is. > Orcan Of the 28 abrt bugs filed against my packages, I think 1 resulted

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 21:58 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 11/3/2010 7:02 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > > Maybe it is time to discuss the usefulness of ABRT to Fedora. I think > > that it is a great idea for commercial products such as RHEL, but it > > obviously did not fit Fedora as is. > > Orcan

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-03 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On 11/03/2010 11:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 21:58 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> On 11/3/2010 7:02 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: >>> Maybe it is time to discuss the usefulness of ABRT to Fedora. I think >>> that it is a great idea for commercial products such as RHEL, but it

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-03 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
Just a followup thought... I wonder if abrt could be made smarter / changed to allow for a preference setting to report on updates-testing or all updates... I know awhile back I made suggestions on what it would take in my mind to increase user testing [1]. I see abrt as another way to help increas

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-03 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2010/11/4 Orcan Ogetbil : > Maybe it is time to discuss the usefulness of ABRT to Fedora. I think > that it is a great idea for commercial products such as RHEL, but it > obviously did not fit Fedora as is. No need to discuss - it's really useful. I recently closed several issues with the aid of s

NearTree build failed only on IA32

2010-11-03 Thread Takanori MATSUURA
Hi. I'm now building NearTree package. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=545047 As I've commented at #23, %check (This means "make tests") failed only on i686 (for EL6, f12 and f13). I can build NearTree on x86_64, ppc64, and ppc (for f12) with no error. All of EL6, f12, and f13 use gc

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-03 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > I > guess what I'm asking is what actual harm/damage are these reports > causing, beyond the time it takes to look at the report and figure out > whether you can fix it? Why is the fact that people have experienced > crashes you haven't yet f

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 02:15 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > I > > guess what I'm asking is what actual harm/damage are these reports > > causing, beyond the time it takes to look at the report and figure out > > whether you can fix it? Why is

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/04/2010 07:15 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> I >> guess what I'm asking is what actual harm/damage are these reports >> causing, beyond the time it takes to look at the report and figure out >> whether you can fix it? Why is the fact that

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 07:41 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > The question is > > Am I using the time efficiently? OR > > Are the these tools actually preventing me to be efficient during my > > available time? > As a user wanting to report a bug, abrt is both. > > On one hand it's a systematic w

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-03 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 02:15 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> > I >> > guess what I'm asking is what actual harm/damage are these reports >> > causing, beyond the time it takes to look at