Re: F14 libgdl 2.31.x broken

2010-10-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 17:44:05 -0700, Jim wrote: > Any application that uses libgdl on F14 segfaults on startup. Any? That would mean it would have been easy to test whether the update works at all, but either it has been marked stable without any testing or at a time when it worked: https://admin.

Re: Is this (broken keyboard layouts) a Fedora 14 Blocker bug?!

2010-10-02 Thread पराग़
Hi, On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: >  Hi, > I've tried testing Fedora 14 Beta (RC3, but updated), and soon I come > across this bug[1]. I could discover the initial cause and propose a fix > (which, after reporting to freedesktop bugzilla, I found that is already > fixed

Re: ssh agent issue

2010-10-02 Thread Panu Matilainen
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Mike McLean wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=626209 > Reported against F13, but I've encountered it in F14 Beta. > > Seems like more folks ought to be impacted by this bug that seem to > be, so I wonder what is going on here. Do less folks use ssh-add that

"Command not found" misfeature

2010-10-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
F14 seems to have acquired a misfeature where if you mistype a command or a command is not found, it prints "Command not found." then pauses for some time, then (sometimes, not always) displays some sort of error[1]. How do I permanently disable this behaviour? Rich. [1] I think it was a yum o

Re: Firewall settings unworkable

2010-10-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Oct 02, 2010 at 02:17:49AM +0200, Dennis J. wrote: [...] I asked Dan Berrange to join this thread since he's most knowledgable about the exact problem and requirements from the libvirt side. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-df l

Re: ssh agent issue

2010-10-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 01:04:40PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Mike McLean wrote: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=626209 > > Reported against F13, but I've encountered it in F14 Beta. > > > > Seems like more folks ought to be impacted by this bug t

Re: "Command not found" misfeature

2010-10-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 09:51:31 +0100, Richard wrote: > > F14 seems to have acquired a misfeature where if you mistype a command > or a command is not found, it prints "Command not found." then pauses > for some time, then (sometimes, not always) displays some sort of > error[1]. > > How do I perma

Re: "Command not found" misfeature

2010-10-02 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 09:51:31 +0100 Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > F14 seems to have acquired a misfeature where if you mistype a command > or a command is not found, it prints "Command not found." then pauses > for some time, then (sometimes, not always) displays some sort of > error[1]. > > How do I

Re: "Command not found" misfeature

2010-10-02 Thread Richard Hughes
On 2 October 2010 09:51, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > ..., then (sometimes, not always) displays some sort of > error[1]. Yes, it's fixed upstream, apologies. There's a new release on Monday which will be pushed to F14. Richard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fe

Re: Getting more info about updates on headless server

2010-10-02 Thread Richard Fearn
This: >  yum install yum-security or possibly this: > ...there is also a changelog plugin/command is what I'm after. I'm going to have a look at those. Thanks James! (Thanks to Przemek and Seth, too - but I want information about all currently-available updates, not just a particular one.) Ri

Re: Is this (broken keyboard layouts) a Fedora 14 Blocker bug?!

2010-10-02 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
Hi, /*Parag N(पराग़) */ wrote on 10/02/2010 11:59:03 AM +0350: Hi, On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: �Hi, I've tried testing Fedora 14 Beta (RC3, but updated), and soon I come across this bug[1]. I could discover the initial cause and propose a fix (which, after reporti

Re: Is this (broken keyboard layouts) a Fedora 14 Blocker bug?!

2010-10-02 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
/*Nicolas Mailhot */ wrote on 10/02/2010 10:12:25 AM +0350: Le samedi 02 octobre 2010 à 01:52 +0330, Hedayat Vatankhah a écrit : In brief, this bug will cause some keyboard layouts to be broken in F14, which IMHO should not go in Fedora 14 Final. I wonder if it can be qualified as a blocker

Re: "Command not found" misfeature

2010-10-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Oct 02, 2010 at 11:40:50AM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 09:51:31 +0100, Richard wrote: > > > > > F14 seems to have acquired a misfeature where if you mistype a command > > or a command is not found, it prints "Command not found." then pauses > > for some time, then

No response from festival-speechtools maintainer since 2009-6-24

2010-10-02 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
Hi, There has been no response from the maintainer since 2009-06-24 as is clear in [1]. Also, the package has not been updated since then. I wonder what should I do now (?) Thanks, Hedayat [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507966 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: No response from festival-speechtools maintainer since 2009-6-24

2010-10-02 Thread Chen Lei
2010/10/2 Hedayat Vatankhah : >  Hi, > There has been no response from the maintainer since 2009-06-24 as is > clear in [1]. Also, the package has not been updated since then. I > wonder what should I do now (?) > > Thanks, > Hedayat > > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507966 > -- S

rawhide report: 20101002 changes

2010-10-02 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Oct 2 08:15:42 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- almanah-0.7.3-3.fc14.x86_64 requires libedataserverui-1.2.so.10()(64bit) antlr3-python-3.1.2-7.fc14.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:2.6 banshee-

Re: F14 libgdl 2.31.x broken

2010-10-02 Thread Jim Hayward
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 10:12 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 17:44:05 -0700, Jim wrote: > > > Any application that uses libgdl on F14 segfaults on startup. > > Any? That would mean it would have been easy to test whether the update > works at all, but either it has been marked

LibreOffice

2010-10-02 Thread Paul F. Johnson
Hi, Given the fun which looks to be happening over OOo due to Oracle, are there any plans to drop OOo and move over to LibreOffice (which looks to be at version 3.2.999 - pretty much the same as OOo currently is at). The full release version is penned in for Christmas (or there abouts). I have no

F-14 Branched report: 20101002 changes

2010-10-02 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Sat Oct 2 13:15:18 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- almanah-0.7.3-3.fc14.x86_64 requires libedataserverui-1.2.so.10()(64bit) antlr3-python-3.1.2-7.fc14.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:2.6 evolutio

Re: rawhide report: 20101002 changes - Broken deps - libmemcached

2010-10-02 Thread Remi Collet
Le 02/10/2010 14:53, Rawhide Report a écrit : > Broken deps for x86_64 > -- > gearmand-0.13-2.fc14.x86_64 requires libmemcached.so.5()(64bit) > opensips-memcached-1.6.3-2.fc15.x86_64 requires > libmemcached.so.5()(64bit) >

Re: F14 libgdl 2.31.x broken

2010-10-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 07:08:56 -0700, Jim wrote: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libgdl-2.31.3-1.fc14 > Anjuta is broken on F14. I don't know if any other apps in the F14 repo > use libgdl. $ repoquery --whatrequires 'libgdl-1.so.3' anjuta-1:2.31.90.0-1.fc14.i686 gnome-python2-gdl-0:2.

Re: LibreOffice

2010-10-02 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 15:21 +0100, Paul F. Johnson wrote: > I have no problems helping package this behemoth! +1 : I can help out too. -- Thanks! Regards, Ankur https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha "FranciscoD" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fed

Does anybody know how to contact David Zeuthen (festival maintainer)?

2010-10-02 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
Hi, Considering the fact that the maintainer is not responsible for a long time, I'd like to ask if anybody knows how to contact David Zeuthen?! Festival seems to be unmaintained for more than a year. But it has many commiters which might decide to become its maintainer. Thanks, Hedayat On ۱۰

Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531) I want libjpeg packages in future Fedora distributions to support reading arithmetic coded JPEG files. Huffman coding and arithmetic are two different bit coding methods that are available in the JPEG standard. Huffman is simpler to implement than

Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Paul F. Johnson
Hi, > "You shall not create images with arithmetic coding" is like saying "You > shall not create images of the flying sphagetti monster." It's not up to > Fedora to make this choice for me. It is though - you have chosen to use Fedora therefore have to live with the decisions the Fedora legal pe

Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2010/10/2 Paul F. Johnson : > Remember, Fedora is not just for use in your country - there are piles > of countries it's used in, each with their own insane patent > regulations. The fedora stance is that if it offends, it's out. Just for the record, AFAIK there are only two countries which allow

Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Paul F. Johnson
Hi, > > Remember, Fedora is not just for use in your country - there are piles > > of countries it's used in, each with their own insane patent > > regulations. The fedora stance is that if it offends, it's out. > > Just for the record, AFAIK there are only two countries which allows > software p

Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 22:53:53 +0530 Mukund Sivaraman wrote: > Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531) ...snip long thing... My thoughts: - We should not be making this change in stable releases even if otherwise like the idea. It could well cause issues and problems with a fragile

Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Björn Persson
Peter Lemenkov wrote: > Just for the record, AFAIK there are only two countries which allows > software patents - USA and South Korea. That's not the whole story. The situation is quite weird in countries that have signed the European Patent Convention. The convention and the national laws all s

Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Tom Lane
Kevin Fenzi writes: > On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 22:53:53 +0530 > Mukund Sivaraman wrote: >> Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531) > My thoughts: > - We should not be making this change in stable releases even if > otherwise like the idea. It could well cause issues and problems with >

Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Björn Persson
Tom Lane wrote: > I believe that they'd be best advised to say "no", because at this point > one of JPEG's principal attractions is near-universal compatibility. > Throwing A/C into the mix will throw that away, for what really is a > very marginal gain in compression efficiency. It's well known a

Re: LibreOffice

2010-10-02 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 22:14 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote: > On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 15:21 +0100, Paul F. Johnson wrote: > > I have no problems helping package this behemoth! > > +1 : I can help out too. Given that the Fedora OOo maintainer [1] is in the steering committee of the new Document Foundation

Re: Need proventester karma for firstboot-1.113-4.fc14 (was: Re: bodhi v0.7.9 deployed)

2010-10-02 Thread Camilo Mesias
I think the moral of this story is that the input to the process is fallible. Shit always happens. Automated systems that filter or delay the 'happening' should be backed up by statistics to show that they help... Otherwise, when they filter and delay attempts to fix problems by people who are tr

Re: LibreOffice

2010-10-02 Thread Chris Jones
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 15:21 +0100, Paul F. Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > Given the fun which looks to be happening over OOo due to Oracle, are > there any plans to drop OOo and move over to LibreOffice (which looks to > be at version 3.2.999 - pretty much the same as OOo currently is at). > The full re

Re: Does anybody know how to contact David Zeuthen (festival maintainer)?

2010-10-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Oct 02, 2010 at 08:45:38PM +0330, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: > Hi, > Considering the fact that the maintainer is not responsible for a long > time, I'd like to ask if anybody knows how to contact David Zeuthen?! > Festival seems to be unmaintained for more than a year. But it has many > c

Re: REVIEW/RFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Updates_Policy_Draft

2010-10-02 Thread Brandon Lozza
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > Look, I realise you are passionate about KDE, and want the best KDE > experience in Fedora.  But most people are not developers, they > instead are using their desktop environment of choice to get regular, > everyday things done with office

Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Paul F. Johnson wrote: > Hi, > >> "You shall not create images with arithmetic coding" is like saying "You >> shall not create images of the flying sphagetti monster." It's not up to >> Fedora to make this choice for me. > > It is though - you have chosen to use Fed

Re: REVIEW/RFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Updates_Policy_Draft

2010-10-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Sat, Oct 02, 2010 at 08:56:21PM -0400, Brandon Lozza wrote: > I'm not a developer at all. I'm a hardened power user and I got sick > and tired of not having the latest version of a particular application > and that led me to Fedora Linux. I'm a quick learner and these > disruptive changes often

Re: Arithmetic coding in Fedora libjpeg (bug #639531)

2010-10-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Björn Persson wrote: > It's well known around the Internet that to achieve compatibility you > should be conservative in what you send and liberal in what you accept. > Applied to JPEG: Use only Huffman coding when encoding – except maybe if > you know that all recipients can handle arithmetic codi

Re: Does anybody know how to contact David Zeuthen (festival maintainer)?

2010-10-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 20:45 +0330, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: > Hi, > Considering the fact that the maintainer is not responsible for a long > time, I'd like to ask if anybody knows how to contact David Zeuthen?! > Festival seems to be unmaintained for more than a year. But it has many > commiters

Re: REVIEW/RFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Updates_Policy_Draft

2010-10-02 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 20:56:21 -0400, you wrote: >Fedora is just going to end up having a million repos for all the >software that will not be updated for six months. And that makes us >look silly. Windows doesn't have repositories for users who want the >latest firefox, they just download it and ins