Re: REVIEW/RFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Updates_Policy_Draft

2010-09-29 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:14:28 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:45:11 +0200 > Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > > > Ok - that's one problem - we sucks in selective updates and > > information for users. > > > > Other could be - change release scheme: > > 1. very similar to current one - r

Re: REVIEW/RFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Updates_Policy_Draft

2010-09-29 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > Brandon Lozza wrote: > >> It seems like the policy would kill the use of an upgraded KDE (4.5 to >> 4.6) because KDE almost always makes UI changes. > > The kde-sig asked FESCo to consider up to 1 KDE version upgrade per release, > and this was

Another bug that would have been caught if packages went through a boot/acceptance test

2010-09-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
If you've been following updates to F14 alpha/beta, you'll undoubtedly have been hit by: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638091 which makes everything segfault and is unrecoverable without a live CD and a lot of manual intervention. A simple "does it boot" test in fact wouldn't have

Build fails on Koji x86_64 rawhide but not on any other release or arch.

2010-09-29 Thread Randall Berry
Hi, I keep getting the same error trying to build fldigi on rawhide x64 but not on rawhide i686 I don't know what to do to fix it. Attached is the koji build report[1]. I've successfully built the package locally using mock for rawhide on i686 but for some reason the koji build fails on x64 an

Re: REVIEW/RFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Updates_Policy_Draft

2010-09-29 Thread Dodji Seketeli
Rex Dieter writes: [...] >> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:17:23 +0200 >> Dodji Seketeli wrote: >> >>> Brandon Lozza writes: > >>> > Most of us KDE users want deliberate visible changes to the user. >>> > That's the point in having the latest version. >>> >>> Sorry if this has been already answered

Re: poppler update to 0.15.0 (0.16 alpha)

2010-09-29 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:07:02 +0200 Marek Kasik wrote: > I plan to update update poppler in rawhide (Fedora 15) to new > development version 0.15 next week (at Monday, October 4th). Changes > against 0.14.x are: > [...] > Please check whether your package builds against this new version of > poppler

Re: Another bug that would have been caught if packages went through a boot/acceptance test

2010-09-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:55 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > If you've been following updates to F14 alpha/beta, you'll undoubtedly > have been hit by: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638091 > > which makes everything segfault and is unrecoverable without a live CD > and a lot of m

Re: x86_64 as Fedora's primary platform

2010-09-29 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: >> Why do you think it's a good idea to except netbooks? > > The netbook issue can be solved by a simple "Download Netbook Version" link > (along with a clear warning on the default download that it's only for > desktop/

rawhide report: 20100929 changes

2010-09-29 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Wed Sep 29 08:15:22 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- ImageMagick-6.6.4.1-14.fc15.i686 requires libgs.so.8 ImageMagick-6.6.4.1-14.fc15.x86_64 requires libgs.so.8()(64bit) almanah-0.7.3-3.fc14.x86_64

Heads Up - xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15)

2010-09-29 Thread Martin Stransky
There's a new xulrunner/firefox in rawhide. The API (js too) is slightly incompatible with the 1.9.2, there is a new XPCOM modules registration and so on, see: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634596#c3 https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Firefox_4_for_developers https://developer.mozill

Re: [389-devel] 1.2.6-1 crash

2010-09-29 Thread Rich Megginson
Gary Morris wrote: > > ok.. it pulled 389-ds-base-1.2.6-2.fc13.x86_64.. is that ok or do i > need to be on 1.2.6-1? On 1.2.6-2 I'm having the same problem. As > soon as I start an application that is ldap intensive, the directory > server crashes real quick. No errors of any sort reported. No

Re: x86_64 as Fedora's primary platform

2010-09-29 Thread Robert Marcano
On 09/27/2010 01:23 PM, seth vidal wrote: > > i686 will run on x86_64 and i686 machines and on the overwhelming > majority of hw someone will happen to have. > Why not use the browser user agent to recomend the best option to the user for the machine being used to download it?, with some way to w

Re: Another bug that would have been caught if packages went through a boot/acceptance test

2010-09-29 Thread Jesse Keating
"Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: >If you've been following updates to F14 alpha/beta, you'll undoubtedly >have been hit by: > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638091 > >which makes everything segfault and is unrecoverable without a live CD >and a lot of manual intervention. > >A simple "

Re: Another bug that would have been caught if packages went through a boot/acceptance test

2010-09-29 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 09:55 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > If you've been following updates to F14 alpha/beta, you'll undoubtedly > have been hit by: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638091 > > which makes everything segfault and is unrecoverable without a live CD > and a lot o

F-14 Branched report: 20100929 changes

2010-09-29 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Wed Sep 29 13:15:24 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- antlr3-python-3.1.2-7.fc14.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:2.6 evolution-couchdb-0.4.92-1.fc14.x86_64 requires libedata-book-1.2.so.2()(64bit)

Re: Another bug that would have been caught if packages went through a boot/acceptance test

2010-09-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 09:55 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > If you've been following updates to F14 alpha/beta, you'll undoubtedly > have been hit by: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638091 > > which makes everything segfault and is unrecoverable without a live CD > and a lot o

Re: Another bug that would have been caught if packages went through a boot/acceptance test

2010-09-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:57:11 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > In fairness, reboot was tested by a proventester for this update. The > bug doesn't surface on reboot alone. The problem happens after prelink > has run ... then you're hosed. You still had a chance if you didn't reboot. rpm st

xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-09-29 Thread Chen Lei
2010/9/29 Martin Stransky : > There's a new xulrunner/firefox in rawhide. The API (js too) is slightly > incompatible with the 1.9.2, there is a new XPCOM modules registration > and so on, see: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634596#c3 > https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Firefox_4_fo

Re: Another bug that would have been caught if packages went through a boot/acceptance test

2010-09-29 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 09:55 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : > If you've been following updates to F14 alpha/beta, you'll undoubtedly > have been hit by: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638091 > > which makes everything segfault and is unrecoverable without a live CD

X Test Week: Radeon Test Day today!

2010-09-29 Thread Adam Williamson
Just a quick reminder that X Test Week continues today with Radeon Test Day - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-09-29_Radeon . Please do come along and help us test. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://

1000 Bug reports

2010-09-29 Thread Orion Poplawski
I apologize for this little bit of hubris. I recently filed my 1000th bug report at bugzilla.redhat.com (unfortunately closed NOTABUG). I thought I'd take a look at my statistics. First bug filed 2002-12-07 (RHL 8.0) Avg rate of bugs - 1 / 2.85 days Most bugs filed in a day: 7 7 2008-03

Re: Build fails on Koji x86_64 rawhide but not on any other release or arch.

2010-09-29 Thread Roland McGrath
> /usr/bin/ld: fldigi-trx.o: 'thread_id_' accessed both as normal and > thread local symbol > fldigi-trx.o: could not read symbols: File format not recognized > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make[2]: *** [fldigi] Error 1 Use 'eu-readelf -s foo.o | fgrep thread_id_' on each .o that goes int

Re: 1000 Bug reports

2010-09-29 Thread James Laska
Greetings, This is great data, thanks for sharing Orion! I've cc'd the test@ list as well since I think this is of value there. On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 11:10 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: > I apologize for this little bit of hubris. I recently filed my 1000th bug > report at bugzilla.redhat.co

Re: REVIEW/RFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Updates_Policy_Draft

2010-09-29 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 04:34:13 -0400 Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > > Brandon Lozza wrote: > > > >> It seems like the policy would kill the use of an upgraded KDE > >> (4.5 to 4.6) because KDE almost always makes UI changes. > > > > The kde-sig asked FE

Re: bodhi v0.7.9 deployed

2010-09-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > Again, you're extrapolating way too far from a single problem case. The > problem is simply that we have the xorg-x11-drivers metapackage which > requires every single X driver and is in the critpath. There's various > ways we could adjust this so it's no longer the case. I

Re: [389-devel] 1.2.6-1 crash

2010-09-29 Thread Noriko Hosoi
On 09/29/2010 12:49 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: Gary Morris wrote: ah.. sorry.. ok.. just retried with 1.2.6.1-1.. / [r...@dalp-ct02 logs]# rpm -qa | grep 389 389-dsgw-1.1.5-1.fc13.x86_64 389-admin-console-1.1.5-1.fc13.noarch 389-admin-1.1.11-1.fc13.x86_64 389-ds-base-1.2.6.1-1.fc13.x86_64 389-d

Re: poppler update to 0.15.0 (0.16 alpha)

2010-09-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michal Schmidt wrote: > Is poppler_page_get_selected_text() the correct replacement for the old > poppler_page_get_text() ? Yes, but you also need to change the y coordinates, see: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/poppler/poppler/commit/?id=b257428150e2c13dcc24fd8f75e4ee2c679ab414 Kevin Kofler

Re: [389-devel] 1.2.6-1 crash

2010-09-29 Thread Gary Morris
sure.. i'll do that and rerun them.. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Noriko Hosoi wrote: > On 09/29/2010 12:49 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: > >> Gary Morris wrote: >> >>> ah.. sorry.. ok.. just retried with 1.2.6.1-1.. / >>> >>> [r...@dalp-ct02 logs]# rpm -qa | grep 389 >>> 389-dsgw-1.1.5-1.fc13.

Fedora 14 Blocker Bug Meeting 2010-10-01 @ 16:00 UTC

2010-09-29 Thread John Poelstra
When: Friday, 2010-10-01 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EDT) Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net After a short break from getting the Beta release out the door, it is now time to start focusing on bugs that could block the final release. We can ship the final release of Fedora 14 on time if we rem

Re: [389-devel] 1.2.6-1 crash

2010-09-29 Thread Noriko Hosoi
Could you do "thread apply all bt", once you see this Segmentation fault message? Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 0x7fe4a23e9710 (LWP 9557)] 0x7fe4d1fc601c in attrlist_find_or_create_locking_optional () from /usr/lib64/dirsrv/libslapd.so.0 (gdb) t

Re: 1000 Bug reports

2010-09-29 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/29/2010 01:10 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > I apologize for this little bit of hubris. I recently filed my 1000th bug > report at bugzilla.redhat.com (unfortunately closed NOTABUG). I thought I'd > take a look at my statistics. > > First bug

[dspam] - Rebuilt for gcc bug 634757

2010-09-29 Thread Jesse Keating
commit 1b263497210129600a54978af0a347ca5903688e Author: Jesse Keating Date: Wed Sep 29 14:06:59 2010 -0700 - Rebuilt for gcc bug 634757 dspam.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/dspam.spec b/dspam.spec index 5b50f55..cbfa50c 100644 --- a/ds

Re: bodhi v0.7.9 deployed

2010-09-29 Thread Al Dunsmuir
On Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 4:15:28 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Today it's this package. Tomorrow it'll be another one. Sure we can solve > this particular problem (but it's taking WEEKS!), but why would that be the > only one? See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmxyj6iInMc Now that the pro

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-09-29 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Wednesday, 29 September 2010 at 18:29, Chen Lei wrote: > 2010/9/29 Martin Stransky : > > There's a new xulrunner/firefox in rawhide. The API (js too) is slightly > > incompatible with the 1.9.2, there is a new XPCOM modules registration > > and so on, see: > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/sho

Re: REVIEW/RFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Updates_Policy_Draft

2010-09-29 Thread dexter
On 29 September 2010 21:07, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Currently, it's 4.5.1. > > So, if we release with that, and then 4.6 comes out and changes the > user experence, we would need to see about granting an exception to > push that version in F14. > > Speaking for myself, etc. > This fedora kde user th

Re: REVIEW/RFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Updates_Policy_Draft

2010-09-29 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:35:01 +0200, >  Tomas Mraz wrote: >> >> - Avoid changing the user experence if at all possible. - this is too >> strong condition. In some cases fixing a bug might inevitable change the >> user experience and in s

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-09-29 Thread Takanori MATSUURA
Hi Chen, For modules/libimg/png, mozilla products use aPNG which was rejected by upstream. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG So we have to use internal png. For media/libvorbis, mozilla has custom patches in the source tree. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=517422 Fro media/libvpx

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-09-29 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Takanori MATSUURA wrote: > Hi Chen, > > For modules/libimg/png, mozilla products use aPNG which was rejected > by upstream. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG > > So we have to use internal png. > > For media/libvorbis, mozilla has custom patches in the source tr

Graphics Test Week final stretch: Intel

2010-09-29 Thread Adam Williamson
Graphics Test Week moves into its final stretch today / tomorrow (depending where you are!) with Intel graphics Test Day - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-09-30_Intel . As with the others, this event runs all day in #fedora-test-day on Freenode IRC, and testing instructions and live im