On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Nicolas Mailhot
wrote:
> Le mercredi 22 septembre 2010 à 21:30 -0400, Gerald Henriksen a écrit :
>
>> After all Gnome 2.32 isn't released until later this month, and the
>> beta releases have been included in Fedora 14 up to now.
>
> Is that a good example ? Gnome
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 22:21 +0200, Till Maas wrote:
>
>> This here sounds strange:
>> | The update rate for any given release should drop off over time,
>> | approaching zero near release end-of-life; since updates are primarily
>> | bugfixes,
On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 03:42 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> I think Kevin's proposal is written fairly with the given information.
> Still, I believe that the stable update guide needs to be relaxed for
> software that doesn't affect anything other than itself. There are
> single library packages tha
On 23 September 2010 08:37, drago01 wrote:
> Well this cycle there was "on the way to gnome3 and back" situation,
> which caused a lot of churn (even upstream).
For what it's worth, the GNOME "will we, won't we" on a few different
issues (GApplication, GTK3, etc) has cost a lot of developer time,
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:19:06 -0400 (EDT), Luke wrote:
> A new version of bodhi has just hit production. This release contains a
> number
> of bugfixes and enhancements.
>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates
> - Email the proventesters about stale unapproved critical path updates
But
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On 23 September 2010 08:37, drago01 wrote:
>> Well this cycle there was "on the way to gnome3 and back" situation,
>> which caused a lot of churn (even upstream).
>
> For what it's worth, the GNOME "will we, won't we" on a few different
> i
Le jeudi 23 septembre 2010 à 08:59 +0100, Richard Hughes a écrit :
> On 23 September 2010 08:37, drago01 wrote:
> > Well this cycle there was "on the way to gnome3 and back" situation,
> > which caused a lot of churn (even upstream).
>
> For what it's worth, the GNOME "will we, won't we" on a few
On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 10:10 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:19:06 -0400 (EDT), Luke wrote:
>
> > A new version of bodhi has just hit production. This release contains a
> > number
> > of bugfixes and enhancements.
> >
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates
>
>
On 22.09.2010 22:45, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 22:21 +0200, Till Maas wrote:
>> This here sounds strange:
>> | The update rate for any given release should drop off over time,
>> | approaching zero near release end-of-life; since updates are primarily
>> | bugfixes, fewer and fewe
Greetings folks,
This has been announced in several other forums already, but we missed
test-annou...@l.fp.org. See below for additional details and
information on how to participate.
Hope to see you in #fedora-test-day!
Thanks,
James
On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 15:35 -0500, Justin M. Forbes wrote:
Hi, everyone. So we partly used the proposed new nice-to-have bug
tracking system during the F14 Beta process, and it seemed to go well.
In a quick burst of airport productivity, I've quickly written up a
bunch of proposed new wiki pages and modifications to existing ones to
document the nice-to-ha
Compose started at Thu Sep 23 08:15:31 UTC 2010
Broken deps for x86_64
--
almanah-0.7.3-3.fc14.x86_64 requires libedataserverui-1.2.so.10()(64bit)
antlr3-python-3.1.2-7.fc14.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:2.6
claws-ma
On 09/23/2010 06:18 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> Right?
>
> No, because with rawhide you get alpha and beta code. But "updating
> everything to the very latest thing all the time" would mean: User get
> what those that know the software best (upstream developers) suggest
> their users to use(¹)
On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 01:29 +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> > 2010/9/21 Björn Persson :
> > > How hard would it be to "cherry-pick" from this backports repository? To
> > > install a newer Firefox from there for example, but keep the PostgreSQL
> > > from the ordinary Fedor
> Er, whut? I didn't post anything advocating people use Rawhide for
> day-to-day purposes. I wouldn't suggest such a thing. All I said was
> that I haven't noticed the speed difference between debug and non-debug
> kernels, because I haven't. I know it's measurably present, but it
> doesn't affect
On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 08:39 +0200, Till Maas wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 04:45:30PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 22:21 +0200, Till Maas wrote:
> > > This here sounds strange:
> > > | The update rate for any given release should drop off over time,
> > > | approaching ze
Sorry, for showing up late at the party. This mail should have been part
of Richard's thread with the same topic but things took a while until
they were ready enough to be presented here.
There is a long history of package installers in Fedora (and it's
predecessors). It feels like roughly ever
On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 12:18 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> On 22.09.2010 22:45, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > Again: if we kept updating everything to the very latest thing all the
> > time, why even bother doing releases. Everyone would just run rawhide.
> > Right?
>
> No, because with rawhide you
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:10:16AM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:19:06 -0400 (EDT), Luke wrote:
>
> > A new version of bodhi has just hit production. This release contains a
> > number
> > of bugfixes and enhancements.
> >
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/update
On Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:45:30 pm Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 22:21 +0200, Till Maas wrote:
> > This here sounds strange:
> > | The update rate for any given release should drop off over time,
> > | approaching zero near release end-of-life; since updates are primarily
>
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 09:34:12 -0400,
Brandon Lozza wrote:
>
> Some people also pointed out another interesting tidbit and that is
> proprietary video drivers. Some of us use them and want to be able to
> use them. We wouldn't be using a rawhide kernel if it won't load the
> modules. I assume
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 15:51:37 +0200,
FlorianFesti wrote:
>
> 1) Comps groups. Not even used by PK to the full extend. Nevertheless
> several groups are huge with over 100 packages (winner being "Games"
> with over 300). Sorry, 100 packages in one list view doesn't work for me.
Games have
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> The kmod rpms for rawhide are already provided by rpmfusion. I don't know
> how often they do them nor how often new kernel releases just plain
> break the proprietary drivers. But it sure likes look at least some of
> the time you should be able to use them.
Bruno, you ca
Bruno Wolff III writes:
> Because it is more work. If one is managing lots of systems as part of a
> job, you want to be efficient in how your time is used. Fedora systems
> change to fast for that.
On the other hand, Fedora saves a lot of time by not having to maintain
reasonably new versions o
> anjuta-2.31.90.0-1.fc14
> ---
> * Sun Aug 22 2010 Debarshi Ray - 1:2.31.90.0-1
> - Version bump to 2.31.90.0.
> * Initial support for Python plugins.
> * Language support for Vala got a major update.
> * Python is now fully supported.
> * Snippets plugin from Google Summe
Could you please review this email and answer questions listed below.
Thanks,
__
Eric
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Eric Moret wrote:
> Hi fedora-devel,
>
> I would like to contribute a piece of bash code that handles url in
> gnome for ssh and telnet schemas. The idea being that whenever a u
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:34:06 +0200, you wrote:
>Le mercredi 22 septembre 2010 à 21:30 -0400, Gerald Henriksen a écrit :
>
>> After all Gnome 2.32 isn't released until later this month, and the
>> beta releases have been included in Fedora 14 up to now.
>
>Is that a good example ? Gnome has been br
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:23:25 -0500,
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > The kmod rpms for rawhide are already provided by rpmfusion. I don't know
> > how often they do them nor how often new kernel releases just plain
> > break the proprietary drivers. But it sure likes l
As I said before, this is almost certainly the wrong fix. If you share
your code already, you will get the help you need quickly. As long as you
don't, and just ask over-specific questions rather than let people see the
context to help you properly, you will get only frustration.
Thanks,
Roland
James Antill wrote:
> There's:
>
> http://yum.baseurl.org/gitweb?p=yum-utils.git;a=blob_plain;f=plugins/priori
> ties/README;hb=90ea69cc7589160735fc67f341db210403bc7f6f
Why isn't that file in the package? It leaves many questions unanswered but
it's better than nothing.
Björn Persson
signatu
In trying to help debug an issue with the ITE8212 controller I want to force
the controller out of "smart mode"
reading thrugh the source code seems to indicate that adding
pata_821x=noraid
to the kernel command line should do the trick, but I may be missing
something.
Would some kind kernel g
As of yesterday there simply is no way to get WiFi (iwlagn here) to
work. Restarting NetworkManager, avahi-daemon, udevd, dbus has no
effect. Restrarting nm-applet does nothing, no response to iwconfig ow iw.
The configuration for the wired network (set up statically for work)
doesn't work either,
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 17:04, Horst H. von Brand wrote:
> As of yesterday there simply is no way to get WiFi (iwlagn here) to
> work. Restarting NetworkManager, avahi-daemon, udevd, dbus has no
> effect. Restrarting nm-applet does nothing, no response to iwconfig ow iw.
>
> The configuration for
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 06:56:48PM -0400, Gregory Woodbury wrote:
> In trying to help debug an issue with the ITE8212 controller I want to force
> the controller out of "smart mode"
>
> reading thrugh the source code seems to indicate that adding
>pata_821x=noraid
>
> to the kernel command li
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Kyle McMartin wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 06:56:48PM -0400, Gregory Woodbury wrote:
> > In trying to help debug an issue with the ITE8212 controller I want to
> force
> > the controller out of "smart mode"
> >
> > reading thrugh the source code seems to indic
On 09/23/2010 06:09 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 15:51:37 +0200,
>FlorianFesti wrote:
>> 1) Comps groups. Not even used by PK to the full extend. Nevertheless
>> several groups are huge with over 100 packages (winner being "Games"
>> with over 300). Sorry, 100 package
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