[Test-Announce] Anaconda Translation&Keyboard Test Day - Thursday 2010-09-16

2010-09-15 Thread He Rui
Greetings Testers, Anaconda Translation&Keyboard Test Day is coming up tomorrow: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:Current This day will mainly focus on the translation and keyboard in different languages during installation. Test cases have been well prepared on the wiki page with the he

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Toshio Kuratomi wrote on 15.09.2010 04:54: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 07:02:33PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:48:13 -0400 >> Máirín Duffy wrote: >> > Only 5 of the 9 FESCo members voted on this issue. If all 9 had voted, >> > even with the current 3 for / 2 against vote, syst

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread drago01
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 01:05:34AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >> So, we closed all blocker bugs, we worked through the vast majority of >> other bugs. I dealt with almost all issues raised in Bill's list, only >> few small issues le

[Bug 629229] new version available and shipped version has disappeared

2010-09-15 Thread bugzilla
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Re: F12/ Cannot update

2010-09-15 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Andrea Musuruane wrote: >> Why xulrunner has been built against this and pushed to stable? > > Because Firefox/Thunderbird maintainers have the ability to > Push-To-Stable regardless of what the Fedora package policies say. Harrumph. >

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Richard Hughes
On 14 September 2010 23:01, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > 21:33:35 The other 2 items I had were: > 21:33:56 application installer issues > 21:33:57 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488968 > 21:34:04 and > 21:34:05 BuildIdBuild infrastructure > 21:34:06 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infra

Re: Twitter support broken in Pino

2010-09-15 Thread Chen Lei
2010/9/10 Bill Nottingham : > Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) said: >> The other option would be to switch to gwibber (which has been >> un-desktop-couched in Fedora 14, so it theoretically won't bring in >> nearly as much to the live image. > > So, actual testing - building a livecd with gwib

Re: F12/ Cannot update

2010-09-15 Thread Andrea Musuruane
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Thomas Janssen wrote: > File a ticket with FESCo. We should have "*all* packages go trough > updates-testing, regardless of who's the maintainer or what's the > reason of an update". If FESCo finds out that this is a bug (some > packages can be pushed to stable dir

Re: F12/ Cannot update

2010-09-15 Thread drago01
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Thomas Janssen wrote: > > My security fix build was rejected going to stable directly, because > it could break anything (freeciv game), so i expect critical packages > for end users have to go trough as well. > The web browser is the attack surface #1 in deskt

Re: F12/ Cannot update

2010-09-15 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:05 AM, drago01 wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Thomas Janssen > wrote: > >> >> My security fix build was rejected going to stable directly, because >> it could break anything (freeciv game), so i expect critical packages >> for end users have to go trough as

Re: F12/ Cannot update

2010-09-15 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Andrea Musuruane wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Thomas Janssen > wrote: >> File a ticket with FESCo. We should have "*all* packages go trough >> updates-testing, regardless of who's the maintainer or what's the >> reason of an update". If FESCo finds o

Re: Broadcom wifi drivers in F-14?

2010-09-15 Thread David Woodhouse
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 08:31 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 09/14/2010 01:31 PM, David Woodhouse wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 00:40 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > >> IIRC they require a firmware blob that has a license that we cannot > >> distribute > >> unlike say the Intel firmwares

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread M A Young
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, drago01 wrote: > I think the main point here wasn't "there are bugs #X, #Y and #Z that > can't be fixed in time so we should revert" but a "we have a bad > feeling / are nervous so lets revert" ... the later isn't really a > technical decision basis and can (and here it did)

Re: 15 or rawhide?

2010-09-15 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 17:13 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: > Shouldn't ABRT be looking to a file like /etc/fedora-release to > determine the release version? r...@rawhide:~> cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora release 15 (Finian) What you say ;-)? Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread drago01
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:27 PM, M A Young wrote: > On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, drago01 wrote: > >> I think the main point here wasn't "there are bugs #X, #Y and #Z  that >> can't be fixed in time so we should revert" but a "we have a bad >> feeling / are nervous so lets revert" ... the later isn't real

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/9/15 Rahul Sundaram : >  On 09/15/2010 05:50 AM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> 2010/9/15 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" : >>> Should gnome-shell (..) becoming the >>> default >> I hope that there will be the option to disable this default and >> return to classical gnome desktop > > Yes. GNOME Panel wi

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/15/2010 04:29 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > It is still necessary to take into account users who think that > Gnome-Shell is something like KDE4 :) In what specific way? They can just continue using GNOME Panel. >> GNOME Shell is also different from systemd >> in the sense that it affect

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
> The only real issues pointed out where lack of documentation and > system-config-service integration for native services. > Neither that we have with upstart so not really a regression and thus > warrant a reject. That depends on whether we want to raise the bar for features as crucial as a ini

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 01:05 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Nice move. > > So, we closed all blocker bugs, we worked through the vast majority of > other bugs. I dealt with almost all issues raised in Bill's list, only > few small issues left. While there are some bugs open, we did our > homew

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 16:01 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:56 PM, James Laska wrote: > > Much like we introduced and communicated btrfs support in F-11, should > > we communicate systemd as a technology preview in Fedora 14? > > I would agree with this. I certainly plan t

Re: Broadcom wifi drivers in F-14?

2010-09-15 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:07:50 +0100, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Rahul Sundaram > wrote: >>  On 09/15/2010 12:49 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:04:04PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: Which OEMs care enough about Linux support to use a

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 00:06 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 09/15/2010 12:01 AM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:56 PM, James Laska wrote: > >> Much like we introduced and communicated btrfs support in F-11, should > >> we communicate systemd as a technology preview in

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 20:48 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > Is anyone else feeling a little uncomfortable about the voting process, > irregardless of its conclusion? 'regardless'. 'irregardless' would mean 'not regardless'. =) Yes, I agree, and I'd like to point up another procedural issue here. Du

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 11:27 +0100, M A Young wrote: > In this case the "bad feeling" is justified, because there were too many > problems too late in the release cycle. It isn't a matter of whether all > the known bugs are fixed but whether we can be reasonably confident that > there aren't any

Re: Revisor and live_ram

2010-09-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 01:25 -0400, Trever Fischer wrote: > Excuse me if this is the wrong place to send this. > > As my fedora ambassador duties, I tend to show other students the neat > things you can do with Fedora with my trusty USB drive I always keep on my > keychain. More often than not, I'm

[perl-Text-SpellChecker] Update to 0.06

2010-09-15 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 4f01da23674a097bc370e4469256bb5ecdcce5d5 Author: Paul Howarth Date: Wed Sep 15 13:17:45 2010 +0100 Update to 0.06 .gitignore |2 +- perl-Text-SpellChecker.spec | 11 +++ sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 6 deleti

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread M A Young
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, drago01 wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:27 PM, M A Young wrote: >> It isn't a matter of whether all >> the known bugs are fixed but whether we can be reasonably confident that >> there aren't any more critical bugs that haven't been reported yet or have >> been introduced

Re: Broadcom wifi drivers in F-14?

2010-09-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 11:05 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > The Broadcom position seems to be entirely crack-inspired, if it's based > on the notion that a binary driver cannot be modified to break the > regulations. That assumption is demonstrably false. In the lawyers' defense, lots of things h

rawhide report: 20100915 changes

2010-09-15 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Wed Sep 15 08:15:32 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- ale-0.9.0.3-2.fc14.x86_64 requires libMagickCore.so.3()(64bit) almanah-0.7.3-3.fc14.x86_64 requires libedataserverui-1.2.so.10()(64bit) antlr3-p

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 13:18 +0100, M A Young wrote: > But you can base it on what bugs were raised or still open during the > alpha phase. If there were a lot of issues during the alpha phase then > that is likely to continue in the beta phase. That was why I was > suggesting you count all bloc

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 01:18:44PM +0100, M A Young wrote: > I don't think that is enough, as the features can stay the same but the > code used to achieve this can potentially change completely. My impression > is that systemd has changed a great deal during the alpha phase even > though I imag

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:27:07 +0100, M A Young wrote: > > I agree. I was worried when systemd appeared in F14 just before the alpha. > Really we should have been much closer to where we are now at the start of > the alpha phase, and systemd should have gone in soon after F13 was forked >

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 14:27 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > Personally, I'm very sad because of deferring systemd to F15. It may > cause slipping of SysV-free Fedora to F16, full year wait from now. And > integration as session daemon in DEs even further. There's no reason it should. Remember, F1

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/9/15 M A Young : > And that is precisely the problem - the code isn't really stable enough > yet for Fedora because it has been developed very quickly and so hasn't > had a chance to stablize yet. Ok, please point me to the bug filled against systemd, that is a "stability" issue. I know that

[Bug 634133] perl-DBD-SQLite-1.31 is available

2010-09-15 Thread bugzilla
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Re: Broadcom wifi drivers in F-14?

2010-09-15 Thread drago01
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 11:05 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > >> The Broadcom position seems to be entirely crack-inspired, if it's based >> on the notion that a binary driver cannot be modified to break the >> regulations. That assumption is

Re: F12/ Cannot update

2010-09-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:01:04 +0200, Andrea Musuruane wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Thomas Janssen > wrote: > > File a ticket with FESCo. We should have "*all* packages go trough > > updates-testing, regardless of who's the maintainer or what's the > > reason of an update". If FE

Re: Broadcom wifi drivers in F-14?

2010-09-15 Thread John W. Linville
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 06:39:48PM -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: > On 09/14/2010 10:13 AM, John W. Linville wrote: > >On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:31:44PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > >>On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 00:40 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > >>>IIRC they require a firmware blob that has a license t

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Vaclav Misek
On 09/15/2010 01:48 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 20:48 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > >> Is anyone else feeling a little uncomfortable about the voting process, >> irregardless of its conclusion? > 'regardless'. 'irregardless' would mean 'not regardless'. =) > > Yes, I agree, a

[Bug 633725] perl-File-Find-Rule-VCS-1.07 is available

2010-09-15 Thread bugzilla
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File File-Find-Rule-VCS-1.07.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2010-09-15 Thread Petr Pisar
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Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 01:05:34AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > There's something seriously wrong with the Fedora development > process, folks. And with you, FESCO. You excelled in erratic behaviour, > not in steering engineering. Lennart, I don't think you're being fair. I tried to alert yo

[Bug 568172] virt-top exits sometimes when the window is resized

2010-09-15 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 633726] perl-File-ShareDir-1.02 is available

2010-09-15 Thread bugzilla
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File File-ShareDir-1.02.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2010-09-15 Thread Petr Pisar
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Re: Revisor and live_ram

2010-09-15 Thread Trever Fischer
> On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 01:25 -0400, Trever Fischer wrote: >> Excuse me if this is the wrong place to send this. >> >> As my fedora ambassador duties, I tend to show other students the neat >> things you can do with Fedora with my trusty USB drive I always keep on >> my >> keychain. More often tha

Re: Broadcom wifi drivers in F-14?

2010-09-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:09:58 -0400, "John W. Linville" wrote: > > AIUI, they main technical reason that they were finally willing to > open-up was that they were able to add some regulatory enforcement code > in their firmware. The added firmware functionality required more > firmware reso

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 04:01:03PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > * pjones and ajax are traveling today, will not be able to attend. > (nirik, 19:30:30) Sorry, I thought I had mentioned this on IRC before, but I have a conflict with the current scheduling for the next four months due to a class

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:48:26PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 20:48 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > > Is anyone else feeling a little uncomfortable about the voting process, > > irregardless of its conclusion? > > 'regardless'. 'irregardless' would mean 'not regardless'.

Re: Broadcom wifi drivers in F-14?

2010-09-15 Thread John W. Linville
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 08:49:46AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:09:58 -0400, > "John W. Linville" wrote: > > > > AIUI, they main technical reason that they were finally willing to > > open-up was that they were able to add some regulatory enforcement code > > in th

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 14:57 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:48:26PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 20:48 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > > > > Is anyone else feeling a little uncomfortable about the voting process, > > > irregardless of its conclu

[Bug 568172] virt-top exits sometimes when the window is resized

2010-09-15 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 568172] libvirt does not block signals, causing virt-top to fail when getting sigwinch from a terminal resize

2010-09-15 Thread bugzilla
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Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 03:04:31PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 14:57 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:48:26PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > 'regardless'. 'irregardless' would mean 'not regardless'. =) > > > > The OED disagrees. > > Not r

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 09:03 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 14 September 2010 23:01, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > 21:33:35 The other 2 items I had were: > > 21:33:56 application installer issues > > 21:33:57 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488968 > > 21:34:04 and > > 21:34:05 BuildIdB

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 03:04:31PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > Is anyone else feeling a little uncomfortable about the voting process, > > > > irregardless of its conclusion? > > > 'regardless'. 'irregardless' would mean 'not regardless'. =) > > The OED disagrees. > Not really. It lists '

[perl-Format-Human-Bytes] New release, v0.06

2010-09-15 Thread Petr Sabata
commit 7c54128cdca81f038038baa330d571438e820b33 Author: Petr Sabata Date: Wed Sep 15 16:12:32 2010 +0200 New release, v0.06 Format-Human-Bytes-no-autoinstall.patch | 10 ++ Format-Human-Bytes-switch_off.patch | 12 perl-Format-Human-Bytes.spec| 1

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 14:27 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > Personally, I'm very sad because of deferring systemd to F15. It may > > cause slipping of SysV-free Fedora to F16, full year wait from now. And > > integration as session daemon in DEs ev

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[perl-Format-Human-Bytes] New sources for 0.06

2010-09-15 Thread Petr Sabata
commit b1ee707c871291591973d62dbe13e2bc5f6699db Author: Petr Sabata Date: Wed Sep 15 16:16:11 2010 +0200 New sources for 0.06 .gitignore |1 + sources|2 +- 2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore index ff321f7..25f3e8e 100644

[perl-File-Find-Rule-VCS] 1.07 bump

2010-09-15 Thread Petr Pisar
commit b33cb75d50ec3b694394945f5f2286fd4cf40cc9 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Sep 15 15:34:50 2010 +0200 1.07 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-File-Find-Rule-VCS.spec | 10 +++--- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread John Poelstra
Mike McGrath said the following on 09/15/2010 07:14 AM Pacific Time: > On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 14:27 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: >> >>>Personally, I'm very sad because of deferring systemd to F15. It may >>> cause slipping of SysV-free Fedora to F1

[Bug 633725] perl-File-Find-Rule-VCS-1.07 is available

2010-09-15 Thread bugzilla
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Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 07:20:30 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: > > And we are already reviewing and accepting features for Fedora 15. The > process never stops. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy Thanks for the reminder; I'll put LZMA back in for F15 and hope the kernel change

[Bug 633729] perl-HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-0.11 is available

2010-09-15 Thread bugzilla
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refining the feature process

2010-09-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:14:24AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > For people wanting to make big changes to F15.. Do it *now*! F15 is in > its infancy. It's taking shape. If you want your feature to be a > defining feature of F15. Get it in *now*. This seems like a completely sensible idea. Howe

File HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-0.11.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2010-09-15 Thread Petr Pisar
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[perl-HTML-FormatText-WithLinks] 0.11 bump

2010-09-15 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 69e0bc83d7c1bd83b80e732b372686032e10d296 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Sep 15 16:33:29 2010 +0200 0.11 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-HTML-FormatText-WithLinks.spec |7 +-- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 7 insertions(

Re: python3 rpm macros not available without python3-devel installed

2010-09-15 Thread David Malcolm
I suspect I haven't had enough coffee yet, but I don't see the problem here. Why not simply add "python3-devel" as a build requirement as Ignacio says? If a build requirement isn't installed, it's acceptable for a build to fail: it's a violation of a precondition. On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 19:35 +08

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 09:14 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 14:27 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > > > Personally, I'm very sad because of deferring systemd to F15. It may > > > cause slipping of SysV-free Fedora to F16, full

Re: refining the feature process

2010-09-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 10:32 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:14:24AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > For people wanting to make big changes to F15.. Do it *now*! F15 is in > > its infancy. It's taking shape. If you want your feature to be a > > defining feature of F15. G

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-15 Thread FlorianFesti
While showing the user "applications" instead of packages might be a good idea for several use cases I think this approach misses the point here. The questions for redesigning the Updater dialog should be: What's the user supposed to decide and what information does he need to do so? The ans

[Bug 633728] perl-Format-Human-Bytes-0.06 is available

2010-09-15 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=633728 Petr Sabata changed: What|Removed |Added ---

Re: refining the feature process

2010-09-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 03:37:55PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > I'm a bit confused. You spend the rest of the mail talking about when > the feature freeze is for F15, but I'm not sure why. As long as F15 is > open and it's not frozen (which it obviously isn't, yet) you can start > doing developm

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-15 Thread James Antill
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 16:38 +0200, FlorianFesti wrote: > So I would suggest an UI that gives a summery (Didn't we already have > that in the past?) and offers 3 buttons: > > [Show/Hide Details] [Do not install updates now] [Install updates now] > > The first being a toggle button hiding/showing

Re: python3 rpm macros not available without python3-devel installed

2010-09-15 Thread Robin Lee
The main issue is failing to use a macro defined with %__python3 to specify the version of a requirement. The recipe is sth like this: %global py3_ver %(echo `%{__python3} -c "import sys; sys.stdout.write(sys.version[:3])"`) ... Requires: python(abi) = %{py3_ver} On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread drago01
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 07:20:30 -0700, >  John Poelstra wrote: >> >> And we are already reviewing and accepting features for Fedora 15.  The >> process never stops. >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy > > Thanks for the r

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-15 Thread drago01
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:38 PM, FlorianFesti wrote: >  While showing the user "applications" instead of packages might be a > good idea for several use cases I think this approach misses the point > here. The questions for redesigning the Updater dialog should be: It is not only about the update

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 17:11:03 +0200, drago01 wrote: > > That doesn't work ... someone has to be activly pushing the patches > upstream .. instead of just waiting and hoping that they magically > make it in. It's somewhere on Lougher's to do list. We can still be ready to take advantage of i

F-14 Branched report: 20100915 changes

2010-09-15 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Wed Sep 15 13:15:11 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- RackTables-0.18.3-1.fc14.noarch requires /usr/local/bin/php RackTables-0.18.3-1.fc14.noarch requires perl(File::FnMatch) 1:anjuta-2.30.0.0-2.fc1

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread drago01
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 17:11:03 +0200, >  drago01 wrote: >> >> That doesn't work ... someone has to be activly pushing the patches >> upstream .. instead of just waiting and hoping that they magically >> make it in. > > It's somewhere on

Problem while building mono-2.8

2010-09-15 Thread Paul F. Johnson
Hi, I've not come across this (mainly as I've not been that active due to a mix of work problems and hardware problems which meant a big re-install). Most of mono is built, but I've just hit this error *** ERROR: No build ID note found in /home/paul/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/mono-2.8-1.fc15.i386/usr/li

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Bill Nottingham
drago01 (drag...@gmail.com) said: > The only real issues pointed out where lack of documentation and > system-config-service integration for native services. > Neither that we have with upstart so not really a regression and thus > warrant a reject. system services have not been migrated to upsta

Problem with 2.6.35.4-12.fc14.x86_64

2010-09-15 Thread Morten P.D. Stevens
Hi, Does anyone know something about this issue? Setting APIC routing to flat ..TIMER: vector=0x30 apic1=0 pin1=2 apic2=-1 pin2=-1 CPU0: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5450 @ 3.00GHz stepping 0a lockdep: fixing up alternatives. === [ INFO: suspic

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Bill Nottingham
Richard Hughes (hughsi...@gmail.com) said: > On 14 September 2010 23:01, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > 21:33:35 The other 2 items I had were: > > 21:33:56 application installer issues > > 21:33:57 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488968 > > 21:34:04 and > > 21:34:05 BuildIdBuild infrastr

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Brandon Lozza
If I have to wait for the next release of Fedora (14 for example) to get KDE 4.5 then it's looking like the stable updates vision has made Fedora incompatible with what I need. I will need to consider another distribution (OpenSUSE most likely, their GCC 4.5 also doesn't suck; LTO = enabled). After

Re: python3 rpm macros not available without python3-devel installed

2010-09-15 Thread Robin Lee
Oh, sorry. I may have chosen a bad email subject. This failed scratch build shows what was happening: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2468876 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Robin Lee wrote: > The main issue is failing to use a macro defined with %__python3 to specify > th

[389-devel] Please Review: (630097) fix coverity Defect Type: Null pointer dereferences issues

2010-09-15 Thread Nathan Kinder
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630097 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=446995&action=edit https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=447038&action=edit https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=447061&action=edit https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=447

[Bug 634133] perl-DBD-SQLite-1.31 is available

2010-09-15 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634133 Petr Sabata changed: What|Removed |Added ---

[Bug 634133] perl-DBD-SQLite-1.31 is available

2010-09-15 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634133 Paul Howarth changed: What|Removed |Added --

-static packages

2010-09-15 Thread Robert Spanton
Hi, I've recently had to link a fair amount of my work statically so that it'll run on a cluster of RHEL machines. Unfortunately, I am just a user of these machines, and so I don't have the power to get them to run Fedora or even to get the admins to install RHEL packages in a timely manner. Bui

[Bug 634133] perl-DBD-SQLite-1.31 is available

2010-09-15 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634133 --- Comment #2 from Petr Sabata 2010-09-15 12:07:34 EDT --- Thanks Paul. I've been playing with the failing tests for a while no

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:53:51AM -0400, Brandon Lozza wrote: > If I have to wait for the next release of Fedora (14 for example) to > get KDE 4.5 then it's looking like the stable updates vision has made If you need the absolute latest of everything without waiting three months for the release,

Re: -static packages

2010-09-15 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 05:06:20PM +0100, Robert Spanton wrote: > I've recently had to link a fair amount of my work statically so that > it'll run on a cluster of RHEL machines. Unfortunately, I am just a > user of these machines, and so I don't have the power to get them to run > Fedora or even

Re: -static packages

2010-09-15 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 09/15/2010 05:06 PM, Robert Spanton wrote: > Hi, > > I've recently had to link a fair amount of my work statically so that > it'll run on a cluster of RHEL machines. Unfortunately, I am just a > user of these machines, and so I don't have the power to get them to run > Fedora or even to get th

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 17:20:22 +0200, drago01 wrote: > > I said _someone_ not _you_ ;) ... if Lougher is working on it fine. It's on his to do list, which isn't really the same thing. Lately he has been doing more getting the extended attributes feature cleaned up and a bit with the lzo stuf

Today is the LAST DAY to fix bugs for the Fedora 14 Beta

2010-09-15 Thread John Poelstra
The Fedora 14 Beta RC compose is scheduled for tomorrow. ALL open bugs on Fedora 14 Blocker list (http://bit.ly/cZKo9K) MUST BE FIXED TODAY or we risk delaying the release. In other words we are very short on time to address the remaining bugs. Here is the current state of things based on the

Voting Process [WAS: FESCo decision on systemd]

2010-09-15 Thread Jon Masters
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 21:26 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 19:02 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > I'm happy to look for ways to make the other fesco voices heard. > > Any ideas? I could try making the tickets have some more descriptive > > subject like "HEY VOTE ON THIS PLEASE BEF

Re: -static packages

2010-09-15 Thread Tom Lane
"Bryn M. Reeves" writes: > On 09/15/2010 05:06 PM, Robert Spanton wrote: >> So, would be acceptable to register requests for -static package >> variants as tickets on bugzilla? Or is there a better way to try to >> encourage people to generate these packages? > You might find the Fedora packagin

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 01:31:50PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 14:27 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > Personally, I'm very sad because of deferring systemd to F15. It may > > cause slipping of SysV-free Fedora to F16, full year wait from now. And > > integration as ses

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