2010/5/3 Björn Persson :
> Thomas Janssen wrote:
>> Good question about on or off by default. To make sense it should be
>> on by default.
>
> NO! Popcon may have its uses, and I actually have it enabled on my Debian
> boxes, but it *must* be strictly opt-in. If it were on by default it would be
>
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Bojan Smojver rexursive.com> writes:
> No idea why nobody is interested in making
> hibernate/thaw work again.
Er, this is boot options that Anaconda stuffed into the kernel line:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572771#c12
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On 05/04/2010 07:53 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Could somebody provide some insight why Fedora ships a
> perl-*i686.rpm package for x86_64?
>
> I don't understand this. My feel is this doesn't make sense and actually
> is a distro composition bug.
>
> Ralf
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On Tue, 4 May 2010 15:38:51 +1000 Chris Jones wrote:
> I also had the trouble of Fedora not detecting another Linux distro
> at the time of installation. Although I can't remember what disro it
> was at the time. But Fedora does seem to have this continuing issue
> from release to release. I never
On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 10:03:34PM +0200, Thomas Janssen wrote:
> - Helps to decide if a package can be easily removed from Fedora
> (upstream dead, no users left, good bye is no problem)
Sounds like another tool to beat maintainers with.
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On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 10:03:34PM +0200, Thomas Janssen wrote:
>> - Helps to decide if a package can be easily removed from Fedora
>> (upstream dead, no users left, good bye is no problem)
>
> Sounds like another tool to beat maintainer
On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 02:00:59PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 18:45 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > here will
> > ALWAYS be a need for a way to fasttrack regression fixes!
>
> The proposals I've seen include a way to fasttrack. That is you get the
> required karma betwee
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On 01/05/10 04:32, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adam Jackson wrote:
>> find / -xdev -type f | while read i; do
>> cp $i /tmp/tmp
>> rm $i
>> mv /tmp/tmp $i
>> done
>
> I presume that cp should be cp -p? And I guess it would be better to do a mv
> -f rather than rm + mv, otherwise you're goin
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On 05/04/2010 12:34 AM, Matt McCutchen wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 07:27 +0300, Pekka Savola wrote:
>> On F12, as of about 1 month ago, user information started getting lost
>> sometimes after resuming from hibernate. You can see this as follows:
>>
>> - With new terminals, the prompt user name
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:51, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> Secondly, a simple linear scale doesn't reflect the complexity of
> testing packages. I've had people downvote my packages because of FAQ
> issues or user error or long-standing bugs in some other package that
> we can't or don't want to f
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Am Montag, den 03.05.2010, 22:37 -0400 schrieb Orcan Ogetbil:
> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Once upon a time, Orcan Ogetbil said:
> >> The statistic talks. It doesn't only talk. It yells. Ignoring this
> >> test statistic in favor of the large pool of imaginary users, wh
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2010/5/4 Thomas Spura :
> Am Montag, den 03.05.2010, 22:37 -0400 schrieb Orcan Ogetbil:
>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
>> > Once upon a time, Orcan Ogetbil said:
>> >> The statistic talks. It doesn't only talk. It yells. Ignoring this
>> >> test statistic in favor of the lar
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"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> You must all realize that the ratio of bureaucracy/process burden and
> quality of maintainers/packagers go hand in hand. The better the
> maintainers/packagers/components are less bureaucracy/process burden is
> needed. The worse it gets more bureaucracy/process bu
Jesse Keating wrote:
> In many cases these do apply. I participate in cases such as this
> nearly every day, and it's working. We're testing fixes, rejecting bad
> ones, and getting the right builds into stable. The system is working,
> but as we all know, no system is perfect. However perfect
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Thomas Janssen wrote:
> Well, i wouldn't call a software that counts serverside downloads of
> FOSS software and gives based on that downloads/installations, a
> popularity suggestion in packagekit, spyware.
> There's nothing at all that gets sent out of your box.
>
> Remind, i'm not speaking of e
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On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Rudolf Kastl wrote:
> 2010/5/4 Thomas Spura :
>> Am Montag, den 03.05.2010, 22:37 -0400 schrieb Orcan Ogetbil:
>>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
>>> > Once upon a time, Orcan Ogetbil said:
Sorry if i answer that one, i had to take one.
The ab
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2010/5/4 Björn Persson :
> Thomas Janssen wrote:
>> Well, i wouldn't call a software that counts serverside downloads of
>> FOSS software and gives based on that downloads/installations, a
>> popularity suggestion in packagekit, spyware.
>> There's nothing at all that gets sent out of your box.
>>
On 05/03/2010 10:01 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 01:58 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>>> It was none of that. All it gave us was info we already had. Some users
>>> would like more adventurous stuff, while some users would not. We already
>>> had that information, the poll told
Thomas Janssen wrote:
> Maybe i'm wrong and nothing is decided, but why don't we do something
> then and get the data we need to decide the*right* direction in the
> first place?
Because the "important" people of Fedora have deemed users to be
sub-standard humans. Only contributors (ie packagers
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> I am saying that SOME updates can be pushed with less or even no testing.
> This does NOT mean that testing should not be used in most cases. It just
> means that it should be the maintainer's discretion whether to use it or
> not. The maintainer knows best how to handle his/h
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Peter Hutterer wrote:
> - I didn't vote in the fedoraforums poll because I trust FESCo to make
> sane decisions without me having to randomly trawl forums to make sure I
> can influence their decisions. So far that worked out for me. YMMV.
> (Also, I didn't really notice the poll until the matching
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On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Thomas Janssen wrote:
>> Maybe i'm wrong and nothing is decided, but why don't we do something
>> then and get the data we need to decide the*right* direction in the
>> first place?
>
> Because the "important" people of Fedora have deem
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On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 09:16:41AM -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> Getting:
>
> Proxy Error
>
> The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
> The proxy server could not handle the request POST /post_bug.cgi.
>
> Reason: Error reading from remote server
>
Yeah, it's d
On 05/04/2010 09:50 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>> You must all realize that the ratio of bureaucracy/process burden and
>> quality of maintainers/packagers go hand in hand. The better the
>> maintainers/packagers/components are less bureaucracy/process burden is
>> nee
On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 17:05 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Of course the poll was just a sample. Many people who are for "adventurous"
> updates also didn't vote in that poll. E.g. I didn't. And I'm definitely for
> what that poll called "adventurous" updates, though I don't see the
> "adventure"
On 05/03/2010 12:51 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Jesse Keating wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 14:01 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>>> [1] And I appreciate that I made a mistake with hal-storage in this
>>> cycle that caused inconvenience for people maintaining other spins, so
>>> I'm not going to
On Tue, 4 May 2010 11:51:11 +0100, Richard wrote:
> There are also technical problems: You can't fit much text in the
> Bodhi text box, and it can't be formatted except as a single
> paragraph, and when you do add a comment to help someone it doesn't
> seem to be seen by the original downvoter.
P
On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 10:00 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> The recent upswing in
> policies and requirements is clouding Fedora's vision.
Which vision is that? The one where we should produce a generally
usable stable operating system every 6 months, one that users can
confidently use thr
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On 05/04/2010 01:50 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
You must all realize that the ratio of bureaucracy/process burden and
quality of maintainers/packagers go hand in hand. The better the
maintainers/packagers/components are less bureaucracy/process burden is
needed. Th
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Jesse Keating wrote:
> Which vision is that? The one where we should produce a generally
> usable stable operating system every 6 months, one that users can
> confidently use throughout the life of that release? Making sure our
> updates given to users are better tested seems to be working toward
On 05/04/2010 05:55 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 05/04/2010 01:50 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>>> You must all realize that the ratio of bureaucracy/process burden and
>>> quality of maintainers/packagers go hand in hand. The better the
>>> maintainers/packa
Ricky Zhou (ri...@fedoraproject.org) said:
> > Of course, this does not say 'how many computers out there have package
> > X'. Maybe it fails and one needs to download a package twice and so on.
> > But I think this would be a first great approximation.
>
> I don't think yum requests packages spec
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On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 11:25 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Fedora Rawhide/Fedora N+1
> Yes, these need rigorous testing and QA. Policies and tests are being
> set in place that will make a better and brighter Fedora future.
> However, it seems that the same release-level criteria are eroding
Anybody else getting server error 500 when attempting to submit new
updates in bodhi?
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On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 12:49 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Anybody else getting server error 500 when attempting to submit new
> updates in bodhi?
>
> regards, tom lane
If the update had bugs listed in it, it could be failing due to the
bugzilla outage. Now that the outage is ove
Jesse Keating writes:
> On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 12:49 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Anybody else getting server error 500 when attempting to submit new
>> updates in bodhi?
> If the update had bugs listed in it, it could be failing due to the
> bugzilla outage. Now that the outage is over, can you re-
Jesse Keating wrote:
> So this is kind of funny. You'd rather see testing become/less/
> rigorous as the age of a release grows, and you want the most rigorous
> testing done in rawhide. That's quite the opposite of what many of us
> are trying to work toward, that is as the release moves from ra
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> So I'd love to have multi-level policy, but in my opinion it should get
> harder and harder to push an update as the release gets older, not
> easier.
In general I'm in agreement with this. But at the same time I'm
concerned that the policy
Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> An average user wants a stable, working software distribution, with
> prompt patches and software enhancements. Since in general those are
> conflicting requirements, the Fedora community has to apply engineering
> judgement on what is the appropriate velocity of updates.
Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> They aren't voted in. The range voting method does not vote people in
> or out.. it determines who the majority of people are most likely to
> 'live' with. Basically it tries to remove the emotional political ends
> and find who the 'silent' majority want. How much it
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Ricky Zhou (ri...@fedoraproject.org) said:
>> > Of course, this does not say 'how many computers out there have package
>> > X'. Maybe it fails and one needs to download a package twice and so on.
>> > But I think this would be a first great
Jesse Keating wrote:
> That's another problem with the poll. "Adventurous" means different
> things to different people, so you can't assume that everybody is
> responding to the same thing.
"Adventurous" has quite an implication of breakage. A milder term would
probably have given an even HIGHE
Thomas Janssen wrote:
> Well, i don't want to kill your dreams, but to be a packager means nothing
> ;)
Yeah, even being a FESCo member is not of much use against a block of 8
other members and the whole Board all voting the same way. :-(
And in fact this observation is what started this whole t
Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> Any one of those can invalidate the mathematical tests you say to run
> as they require random pools, controls on populations polled, and
> non-leading questions. People keep telling you this and you seem to
> keep ignoring it.
I know the poll is far from perfect. But
Jesse Keating wrote:
> Bad data is worse than no data.
I disagree. As "bad" as the data is, it can't be worse than claiming users
want, or worse, "need", conservative updates without any evidence whatsoever
as has been done!
In fact I can bring you non-statistical evidence for the opposite: The
On Tue, 04 May 2010 19:10:38 +0200
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Jesse Keating wrote:
> > That's another problem with the poll. "Adventurous" means different
> > things to different people, so you can't assume that everybody is
> > responding to the same thing.
>
> "Adventurous" has quite an implicatio
Peter Jones wrote:
> I'm sorry you don't like it, but you've had ample occasion to come up with
> a better idea, and you have roundly refused to make any attempt at doing
> so.
"I'm sorry you don't like my plate of Merde Provençale, but you've had ample
occation to come up with a better recipe fo
Do what thou wilt
shall be the whole of the Law.
On 5/4/10, Thomas Janssen wrote:
> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Rudolf Kastl wrote:
>> 2010/5/4 Thomas Spura :
>>> Am Montag, den 03.05.2010, 22:37 -0400 schrieb Orcan Ogetbil:
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
>
On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 19:40 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> There are changes
> which don't need testing, for example if a patch was dropped because we
> thought it wasn't needed anymore, and it turns out the patch is still
> needed, readding the patch needs no testing whatsoever because the patch
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Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Fedora security updates are regularly given no testing and are pushed
> directly to stable. Perhaps you should classify your updates with a
> severity of security.
That doesn't work because security updates require security team approval
(another silly policy which wa
On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 12:04 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Jesse Keating wrote:
> > So this is kind of funny. You'd rather see testing become/less/
> > rigorous as the age of a release grows, and you want the most rigorous
> > testing done in rawhide. That's quite the opposite of what many o
On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 09:07 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > So I'd love to have multi-level policy, but in my opinion it should get
> > harder and harder to push an update as the release gets older, not
> > easier.
>
>
> In general I'm in agr
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>> They aren't voted in. The range voting method does not vote people in
>> or out.. it determines who the majority of people are most likely to
>> 'live' with. Basically it tries to remove the emotional political e
On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 19:25 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Jesse Keating wrote:
> > Bad data is worse than no data.
>
> I disagree. As "bad" as the data is, it can't be worse than claiming users
> want, or worse, "need", conservative updates without any evidence whatsoever
> as has been done!
Wro
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> It's common sense that older releases should be receiving more testing,
> but here in reality it is the opposite. If I am wrong, please prove it.
Indeed, that's the fact we have to deal with, and IMHO the solution is to
push the same changes to all releases wherever p
On 05/04/2010 06:04 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Peter Jones wrote:
Wait just a second - you're arguing that requiring testing doesn't work
because nobody tested the KDE spin within 8 days. You might want to
rethink this position.
Why? I don't see the contradiction. If nobody tests things,
Jesse Keating wrote:
> This involved doing another build of the package, which could involve
> changes in the buildroot and anomalies in the build process. Ask DaveJ
> some time about what happened to his kernel builds when the build host
> did a clock adjustment during the build. Shit happens, a
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On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> If the breakage was more of a functional break and not a dep break,
> that's where automated testing comes in, and we grow the automated
> functional testing of updates so that if an update comes along we can
> detect the breakage and alert bo
On 05/04/2010 01:40 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Peter Jones wrote:
>> I'm sorry you don't like it, but you've had ample occasion to come up with
>> a better idea, and you have roundly refused to make any attempt at doing
>> so.
>
> "I'm sorry you don't like my plate of Merde Provençale, but you've h
Author: mmaslano
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On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Some risks are so low that they're basically negligible. If the 2 options
> are keeping an existing regression (which missed testing) in updates for a
> few more days or risking the off chance that there MAY be another regression
> with a proba
Author: mmaslano
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On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:04:45 +0200
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Peter Jones wrote:
> > Wait just a second - you're arguing that requiring testing doesn't
> > work because nobody tested the KDE spin within 8 days. You might
> > want to rethink this position.
>
> Why? I don't see the contradiction. If no
On 05/04/2010 02:14 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Jesse Keating wrote:
>> This involved doing another build of the package, which could
>> involve changes in the buildroot and anomalies in the build
>> process. Ask DaveJ some time about what happened to his kernel
>> builds when the build host did a cl
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Thomas Spura wrote:
> Am Montag, den 03.05.2010, 22:37 -0400 schrieb Orcan Ogetbil:
>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
>> > Once upon a time, Orcan Ogetbil said:
>> >> The statistic talks. It doesn't only talk. It yells. Ignoring this
>> >> test s
Author: mmaslano
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