Re: F13/i686: yum update emptied /boot, /bin, /lib, etc.

2010-04-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On 22/04/10 22:01, Jim Meyering wrote: > > There was only one: history-2010-03-08.sqlite > BZ-attached here: > > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/584997 Read up on: yum-plugin-protect-packages if your going on autopilot. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded, Fedora.x86 64-32 Hybrid -- devel mai

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

2010-04-23 Thread Martin Stransky
Hi, we're patching mozilla packages only for really critical issues because of mozilla trademarks. We can't put any patch we want to the mozilla package and ship it as 'Firefox' or 'Thunderbird'. I've asked for inclusion at upstream bug, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=550455, if y

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

2010-04-23 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/23/2010 09:03 AM, Martin Stransky wrote: > Hi, > > we're patching mozilla packages only for really critical issues because > of mozilla trademarks. We can't put any patch we want to the mozilla > package and ship it as 'Firefox' or 'Thunderbird'. Thanks for providing evidence of how trademar

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

2010-04-23 Thread Martin Stransky
On 04/23/2010 09:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 04/23/2010 09:03 AM, Martin Stransky wrote: >> Hi, >> >> we're patching mozilla packages only for really critical issues because >> of mozilla trademarks. We can't put any patch we want to the mozilla >> package and ship it as 'Firefox' or 'Thunder

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

2010-04-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 04/23/2010 12:33 PM, Martin Stransky wrote: > Hi, > > we're patching mozilla packages only for really critical issues because > of mozilla trademarks. We can't put any patch we want to the mozilla > package and ship it as 'Firefox' or 'Thunderbird'. > > I've asked for inclusion at upstream bug,

Re: New improved usb_modeswitch coming your way !!

2010-04-23 Thread Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
David Woodhouse wrote: > On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 14:03 +0530, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala wrote: >> I would rather patch the tcl script to use the binary in /usr/bin :) >> Unless people thing otherwise. > > Why deviate from what upstream does, which is to use /usr/sbin? > This is fixed now in https://admi

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

2010-04-23 Thread Martin Stransky
On 04/23/2010 09:30 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 04/23/2010 12:33 PM, Martin Stransky wrote: >> Hi, >> >> we're patching mozilla packages only for really critical issues because >> of mozilla trademarks. We can't put any patch we want to the mozilla >> package and ship it as 'Firefox' or 'Thunder

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

2010-04-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 04/23/2010 01:12 PM, Martin Stransky wrote: > On 04/23/2010 09:30 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> What is the exact definition of "really critical issues" here. A >> frequent crash seems a critical issue to me. > > - 0day vulnerabilities > - critical crashes (like app fails to start for *everyone*

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

2010-04-23 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Martin Stransky wrote: > On 04/23/2010 09:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> On 04/23/2010 09:03 AM, Martin Stransky wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> we're patching mozilla packages only for really critical issues because >>> of mozilla trademarks. We can't put any patch we wan

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

2010-04-23 Thread Michal Hlavinka
On Friday 23 of April 2010 09:03:37 Martin Stransky wrote: > Hi, > > we're patching mozilla packages only for really critical issues because > of mozilla trademarks. We can't put any patch we want to the mozilla > package and ship it as 'Firefox' or 'Thunderbird'. just curious: is it possible to

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

2010-04-23 Thread Martin Stransky
On 04/23/2010 11:11 AM, Michal Hlavinka wrote: > On Friday 23 of April 2010 09:03:37 Martin Stransky wrote: >> Hi, >> >> we're patching mozilla packages only for really critical issues because >> of mozilla trademarks. We can't put any patch we want to the mozilla >> package and ship it as 'Firefox

Re: Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

2010-04-23 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/23/2010 09:24 AM, Martin Stransky wrote: > On 04/23/2010 09:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> On 04/23/2010 09:03 AM, Martin Stransky wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> we're patching mozilla packages only for really critical issues because >>> of mozilla trademarks. We can't put any patch we want to the m

Re: spin kickstart/minimization cleanups

2010-04-23 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 09:40 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > > I've spent a little time looking at the hardware side of things and > > done a basic patch for some of the hardware stuff based on the current > > rawhide comps file. I've br

Re: spin kickstart/minimization cleanups

2010-04-23 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 16:45 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 21 April 2010 16:40, Richard Hughes wrote: > > software needs to be installed for a given bit of hardware. It's > > really the kind of thing that needs to be added to udev as just a > > simple rule, and then enabled in gnome-packagekit.

rawhide report: 20100423 changes

2010-04-23 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Apr 23 08:15:03 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- evolution-couchdb-0.3.2-2.fc13.i686 requires libcouchdb-glib-1.0.so.1 metagoofil-1.4a-4.fc14.noarch requires /usr/bin/libextractor-extractor paper

Re: rawhide report: 20100423 changes

2010-04-23 Thread Laurent Rineau
On Friday 23 April 2010 13:07:46 Rawhide Report wrote: > Compose started at Fri Apr 23 08:15:03 UTC 2010 > > Broken deps for i386 > -- [...] >skyviewer-1.0.0-3.fc12.i686 requires libQGLViewer.so.2 > Broken deps for x86_64 > -

Re: F13/i686: yum update emptied /boot, /bin, /lib, etc.

2010-04-23 Thread Jim Meyering
Frank Murphy wrote: > On 22/04/10 22:01, Jim Meyering wrote: >> There was only one: history-2010-03-08.sqlite >> BZ-attached here: >> >> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/584997 > > Read up on: > yum-plugin-protect-packages > > if your going on autopilot. Thanks. Installed. IMHO, one should always be ab

Re: F13/i686: yum update emptied /boot, /bin, /lib, etc.

2010-04-23 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Jim Meyering wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: >> On 22/04/10 22:01, Jim Meyering wrote: >>> There was only one: history-2010-03-08.sqlite >>> BZ-attached here: >>> >>> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/584997 >> >> Read up on: >> yum-plugin-protect-packages >> >> if your going on autop

Postgresql namespace

2010-04-23 Thread Miroslav Suchý
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=251805#c28 Should we have: postgresql-pgpool-II postgresql-orafce or just: pgpool-II orafce Let start discussing. My opinion is postgresql-* because it has kind of same namespace. -- Miroslav Suchy Red Hat Satellite Engineering -- devel mailing list

[Test-Announce] F-13 Blocker Meeting 2010-04-16 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EDT)

2010-04-23 Thread Adam Williamson
# What: F-13 Blocker bug review # When: Friday, 2010-04-23 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EDT) # Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net Today in about an hour (apologies for the late notice!) will be the second scheduled [1] Fedora 13 Blocker bug review meeting. We'll be reviewing all F13Blocker bugs

Re: Postgresql namespace

2010-04-23 Thread Devrim GÜNDÜZ
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 16:40 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=251805#c28 > > Should we have: > postgresql-pgpool-II > postgresql-orafce > > or just: > pgpool-II > orafce > > Let start discussing. My opinion is postgresql-* because it has kind > of same na

Re: Postgresql namespace

2010-04-23 Thread Tom Lane
Devrim =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=DCND=DCZ?= writes: > On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 16:40 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=251805#c28 >> >> Should we have: >> postgresql-pgpool-II >> postgresql-orafce >> >> or just: >> pgpool-II >> orafce >> >> Let start discussing. M

Re: Postgresql namespace

2010-04-23 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 11:44 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Devrim =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=DCND=DCZ?= writes: > > On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 16:40 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=251805#c28 > >> > >> Should we have: > >> postgresql-pgpool-II > >> postgresql-orafce > >>

[Fedora-r-devel-list] R 2.11.0 in Fedora Updates Testing

2010-04-23 Thread Tom "spot" Callaway
R 2.11.0 is built now for Fedora and EPEL. It is in "updates-testing". In accordance with the new policies on Fedora Updates, these new packages will not be pushed as official updates until they either receive positive testing from users, or sit in updates-testing for two weeks. You can help us t

Re: F13/i686: yum update emptied /boot, /bin, /lib, etc.

2010-04-23 Thread Jim Meyering
Seth Vidal wrote: > On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Jim Meyering wrote: >> Frank Murphy wrote: >>> On 22/04/10 22:01, Jim Meyering wrote: There was only one: history-2010-03-08.sqlite BZ-attached here: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/584997 >>> >>> Read up on: >>> yum-plugin-protect-packages >>

Re: F13/i686: yum update emptied /boot, /bin, /lib, etc.

2010-04-23 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Jim Meyering wrote: > Seth Vidal wrote: >> On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Jim Meyering wrote: >>> Frank Murphy wrote: On 22/04/10 22:01, Jim Meyering wrote: > There was only one: history-2010-03-08.sqlite > BZ-attached here: > > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/584997 >

Please move your ABRT bugs upstream

2010-04-23 Thread Christoph Wickert
A while back I was complaining about how the KDE SIG handles bug reports. One could certainly argue that closing everything UPSTREAM doesn't help to track bugs in Fedora, but on the other hand the bugs are at least submitted to the original developers. When I receive a bug report I have a look at

Re: Please move your ABRT bugs upstream

2010-04-23 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
Christoph Wickert wrote: > When I receive a bug report I have a look at it and if it contains all > necessary data, I forward it to upstream's bug tracker. Most of the time > the developers are very thankful about the reports and especially the > backtraces. Looking at the bugs I filed I see that n

Re: Postgresql namespace

2010-04-23 Thread Jean-Francois Saucier
> On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 11:44 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Devrim =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=DCND=DCZ?= writes: > > On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 16:40 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=251805#c28 > >> > >> Should we have: > >> postgresql-pgpool-II > >> postgresql-orafce > >

Re: F13/i686: yum update emptied /boot, /bin, /lib, etc.

2010-04-23 Thread Jim Meyering
Seth Vidal wrote: > On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Jim Meyering wrote: >> Seth Vidal wrote: >>> On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Jim Meyering wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: > On 22/04/10 22:01, Jim Meyering wrote: >> There was only one: history-2010-03-08.sqlite >> BZ-attached here: >> >> http://bug

Re: F13/i686: yum update emptied /boot, /bin, /lib, etc.

2010-04-23 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Jim Meyering wrote: > I've just realized that I had a list of all packages/versions > that were installed as of a few weeks ago (April 5). > In case it helps: > Yah - the history sqlite file you uploaded has all that info in there (in a round about way) but the problem sti

Re: Postgresql namespace

2010-04-23 Thread Matthias Runge
On 04/23/2010 08:47 PM, Jean-Francois Saucier wrote: >> On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 11:44 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> Devrim =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=DCND=DCZ?= writes: >>> On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 16:40 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=251805#c28 Should we have

Re: Postgresql namespace

2010-04-23 Thread Tom Lane
Matthias Runge writes: > Thinking of more general packages, e.g a java binding for postgresql, I > would prefer names like postgresql-java (or similar) to be able to > differentiate from mysql-java, ingres-java (given, those packages do > exist). To be conformant to this naming scheme, other pa

Re: Please move your ABRT bugs upstream

2010-04-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 19:45 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote: > P.S.: Now that we gather all these data, do we need a general policy for > it? Should the bugzappers take care of forwarding bugs? Not really. abrt reports are bug reports on crashing applications. The fact that they're automatically g

Elections - nominations open Sat 2010-04-24

2010-04-23 Thread Paul W. Frields
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 With a Fedora release coming soon, it's also time for Fedora Elections. Both the Fedora Project Board and the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo) will have open seats during this election cycle. Nominations for these seats open tomorrow, Sa

F-13 Branched report: 20120423 changes

2010-04-23 Thread Branched Report
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F-13 Branched report: 20100423 changes

2010-04-23 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Fri Apr 23 09:15:03 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- metagoofil-1.4a-4.fc13.noarch requires /usr/bin/libextractor-extractor Broken deps for x86_64 --

Re: F-13 Branched report: 20120423 changes

2010-04-23 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 23:30 +, Branched Report wrote: Disregard this. It was sent from the future where the world has ended and there is no Branched tree to push. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a di

Re: F13/i686: yum update emptied /boot, /bin, /lib, etc.

2010-04-23 Thread James Antill
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 15:52 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: > > On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Jim Meyering wrote: > > > I've just realized that I had a list of all packages/versions > > that were installed as of a few weeks ago (April 5). > > In case it helps: > > > > Yah - the history sqlite file you uploaded

Nigel Jones orphaning packages

2010-04-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On behalf of Nigel Jones, I'm letting people know that the following packages have been orphaned: * R-DBI -- Database interface module for R * R-RSQLite -- SQLite database interface for R * pAgenda -- A cross platform calendar and scheduler * perl-Crypt-CAST5_PP -- CAST5 block cipher in pure Perl

Re: F13/i686: yum update emptied /boot, /bin, /lib, etc.

2010-04-23 Thread Andre Robatino
Jim Meyering meyering.net> writes: > IMHO, one should always be able to run "yum -y update" without fear > of such damage. Maybe that's naive, but with the exception of > yesterday's run, it's worked for me for more than two years of > rawhide and F10..F13. In x86_64 F13 and Rawhide, often depe