Re: Bodhi allows resubmitting an update with different packages?!

2010-04-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 16:31:32 -0800, Jeff wrote: > I'll repeat. If a testing package is missing in bodhi...it means its > obsoleted by a newer one. > Bodhi has a search interface which will let you find the newer ones. > The bugzilla tickets have the reference to the newer ones. It's bad to delete

Heads up! Erlang package becomes modularized in Fedora.

2010-04-10 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello All! CC to devel@lists.fedoraproject.org CC to erlang-questi...@erlang.org I would like to attract attention those erlangers, who use Fedora and especially those of them, who use Erlang from Fedora's main repository. Others are safe :) Since Erlang adoption steadily grows and more applicat

Re: Heads up! Erlang package becomes modularized in Fedora.

2010-04-10 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > > I did some investigation, and find a way to completely modularize > whole Erlang package. Sounds great! > Also I'm sure that we need to push this > change into both F-12 I object to this on general principle. Pushing sweeping changes t

Re: Heads up! Erlang package becomes modularized in Fedora.

2010-04-10 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le samedi 10 avril 2010 à 16:56 +0400, Peter Lemenkov a écrit : > I did some investigation, and find a way to completely modularize > whole Erlang package. In a few words - main package consists of purely > virtual 'erlang' package and a dozens of sub-packages (from > erlang-appmon to erlang-xmerl

Re: geos soname bump in F-12 updates

2010-04-10 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 04/10/2010 03:26 AM, Alex Lancaster wrote: >> >> Broken deps in releases is my number 1 peeve with Fedora and although >> it's been actively worked on now, it's taken a very long time to do so. >> It would be nice if Red Hat put some more engineeri

Re: PolicyKit-authentication-agents in Fedora

2010-04-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Christoph Wickert wrote: > Then polkit-kde would win and it has even more deps. ;) And it wouldn't even work outside of KDE as it has OnlyShowIn=KDE;. All this is why I suggested on #fedora-kde that we should ban all usage of PolicyKit-authentication-agent entirely (possibly even just remove the

Re: PolicyKit-authentication-agents in Fedora

2010-04-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > We explicitly require polkit-kde from F-12 in combination with polkit-1 > (in kdebase-workspace). F-11 still require PolicyKit-authentication-agent. That would be F-13 resp. F-12. I think that for F-12, we should really do that grouped update to introduce polkit-kde and

Re: Moving libcrypto.so.* back to /lib

2010-04-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 10:17:25AM +0200, Tomas Mraz wrote: > So I got convinced that libcrypto.so.* should be moved back to /lib in > the https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=559953 The libssl.so.* > will stay in /usr/lib though. > > I will do that change in F14 packages. Till Maas asked m

rawhide report: 20100410 changes

2010-04-10 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Apr 10 08:15:07 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- anaconda-14.3-1.fc14.i686 requires fcoe-utils >= 0:1.0.12-3.20100323git evolution-couchdb-0.3.2-2.fc13.i686 requires libcouchdb-glib-1.0.so.1 gnom

Re: rawhide report: 20100410 changes

2010-04-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 04:38:19PM +, Rawhide Report wrote: > 1:libguestfs-1.3.1-3.fc14.i686 requires /usr/lib/.libcrypto.so.10.hmac > 1:libguestfs-1.3.1-3.fc14.i686 requires /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.10 > 1:libguestfs-1.3.1-3.fc14.i686 requires > /usr/lib/.libcrypto.so.1.0.0.hma

Re: Bodhi allows resubmitting an update with different packages?!

2010-04-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matt McCutchen wrote: >> There are nine bugs mentioned in the update. Do you really suggest that >> the update submitter should always manually copy them from an old update >> to a new update? > > Yes. What's so hard about that? It's a single copy and paste. Its several copies and pastes: list

Re: Bodhi allows resubmitting an update with different packages?!

2010-04-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matt McCutchen wrote: > The top of the page now shows the newest package versions, but much of > the feedback referred to older versions, which are not listed. IMO, > this is a terribly confusing practice and Bodhi shouldn't allow it. New > packages should be submitted in a new update so that fee

Re: Bodhi allows resubmitting an update with different packages?!

2010-04-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matt McCutchen wrote: > This surprised me. I assumed updates were immutable and did not find > any suggestion to the contrary until today. Only stable updates are (except in special circumstances) immutable. Testing updates are testing for a reason. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list

Re: Bodhi allows resubmitting an update with different packages?!

2010-04-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jeff Spaleta wrote: > What? We don't tag testing-updates with an ID. Actually we do. :-) But this is just one more reason to edit (the update keeps its ID, so we know that FEDORA-2010- is always KDE 4.4.2 for F12, with or without edits). Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@l

F-13 Branched report: 20100410 changes

2010-04-10 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Sat Apr 10 09:15:06 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- Miro-2.5.4-3.fc13.i686 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.2.2 galeon-2.0.7-25.fc13.i686 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.2.2 gnome-python2-gtkmozembed-2.25.3-

orphaning a slew of packages

2010-04-10 Thread Ian Weller
I'm orphaning a bunch of packages for various reasons, listed below, so I can focus more on other areas of Fedora. Please take them up if you find them useful or wish to continue maintaining them. == Don't have time/patience to maintain == * tremulous (has some pretty challenging bugs with it) ==

Help needed - packaging maven plugin

2010-04-10 Thread Guido Grazioli
Hello, im trying to package a maven plugin which depends on maven-release-plugin; where has it gone? Im almost sure it was included at the time of F-7 / F-8, and also the maven sample template in the java guidelines on the wiki suggest its use. pkgdb and yum return no result searching for it. Than

Re: Bodhi allows resubmitting an update with different packages?!

2010-04-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 20:05 -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote: > How hard is it to use Bodhi properly? You have jumped from asking 'am I missing something' to lecturing other people on the 'proper' use of Bodhi in the space of three emails, despite the fact that no reply to your original mail suggested

Re: Heads up! Erlang package becomes modularized in Fedora.

2010-04-10 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2010/4/10 Colin Walters : >> Also I'm sure that we need to push this >> change into both F-12 > > I object to this on general principle.  Pushing sweeping changes to > infrastructure packages is not what stable updates are for. This update is fully API/ABI compatible with previous monolithic pack

Re: Heads up! Erlang package becomes modularized in Fedora.

2010-04-10 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello! 2010/4/10 Nicolas Mailhot : > So you are proposing a metapackage. Fedora has historically frowned at > metapackages, we prefer to create comps groups to bundle multiple > packages together. Sorry, but this looks like purely non-technical argument for me (I mean using verbs like "prefer",